Author: Japan Reacts Editorial

  • Izakaya Bankruptcies Hit All-Time High, Top 200 for the First Time Ever — 5ch: ‘A Lot of People Realized We Don’t Need Them’

    According to a tally by Tokyo Shoko Research, bankruptcies in the “izakaya” (Japanese pub) business category hit a record high in 2026, with the annual total now on track to top 200 for the first time ever. The main causes cited are rising labor and ingredient costs combined with price competition, and there are concerns that a consumption tax cut, if enacted, would push bankruptcies even higher. On 5ch threads, the central topics were doubts over whether the izakaya business model is even necessary anymore, and frustration with pricing practices like mandatory appetizer charges (otsumami) and late-night surcharges, with many commenters also pointing to younger generations drinking less.

    Izakaya Bankruptcies Hit Record High, Could Top 200 for the Year for the First Time — Rising Costs and Price Competition, With Concerns a Consumption Tax Cut Could Push Numbers Higher —

    10/6 (Tue) 10:51 JST

    Tokyo Shoko Research

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:55
    Genuine question for anyone who actually knows this stuff — would a consumption tax cut hurt business for small regional sash (window/door frame) manufacturers? Would they go under?
    8AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:57
    This is great news, honestly. Alcoholism factories like these should go extinct.
    136AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:29
    Re: #8 Seriously, this. Izakayas are nothing but harmful.
    10AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:57
    A lot of people have realized izakayas just aren't necessary.
    36AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:02
    Re: #10 The ideal drink at home: walk the local shopping street buying booze and side dishes from mom-and-pop stores, then eat and drink at home. Even buying from a local supermarket gets you pretty close to that same satisfaction.
    12AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:58
    The mystery of why bankruptcies are rising even though the economy's supposedly booming.
    57AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:08
    Re: #12 When the economy's heating up, small and mid-size businesses actually go under more. It's when several big companies collapse at once that things really tank.
    221AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:12
    Re: #12 Wait, is the economy even good right now???
    14AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:58
    Realized takeout plus an internet cafe is the way to go.
    31AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:01
    Re: #14 Internet cafes are basically on the verge of extinction though. But I got an AI to build an OS and it actually ran, so maybe if I have it build an OS that only runs a web browser, I can get around Microsoft's nonsense.
    15AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:59
    200 cases nationwide? That seems way too low. It's a business that probably shouldn't even be viable in the first place.
    206AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:05
    Re: #15 That's an average of 4 per prefecture — one per 8 cities. Way too few, right?
    217AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:10
    Re: #15 Re: #206 That's because it only counts cases with debts of 10 million yen or more. Small-scale bankruptcies. If you include businesses that just quietly shut down, the number's definitely higher.
    29AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:01
    They could've avoided going under if they'd just hired way more foreign workers. They're going bust because the owners are idiots.
    37AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:03
    Re: #29 Yeah, but foreign part-timers will serve you an undercooked katsu don.
    35AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:02
    Doing business aimed at Japanese customers is getting tough — you can't just raise prices easily.
    41AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:04
    Re: #35 Japanese customers complain the moment a 400-yen beef bowl goes up to 450 yen. Foreign tourists happily pay 20,000 yen for a seafood rice bowl.
    60AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:09
    Is there a trend of young people today avoiding sketchy izakayas? Back in the Showa era, people would just roll with it and end up at the second or third bar of the night.
    116AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:24
    Re: #60 People born around 2000 who studied humanities couldn't even get on campus, so they spent their college years stuck at home — they never picked up the habit of drinking. Bars were closed during COVID too. Plus public safety's worse than in their parents' generation — if you get drunk and someone secretly films you, people just call you careless or clueless. Not worth the hassle.
    67AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:11
    This '10 million yen or more in debt' threshold doesn't really click for me intuitively.
    82AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:15
    Re: #67 Think of it as debt equal to or greater than your annual salary. Like if you make 7 million yen a year, it's like having 25 million yen in debt with zero savings.
    88AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:17
    Re: #67 Basically blew through all their opening capital.
    90AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:17
    Can we please do something about the ripoff pricing and otsumami (the mandatory appetizer charge)? Tokyo seriously has these mini ripoffs — seating charges, weekend surcharges, late-night fees, service charges, each tacking on a few hundred yen.
    98AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:19
    Re: #90 Osaka's got that too, no joke. A 500-yen otsumami that's literally just potato salad from Gyomu Super (a discount supermarket chain).
    96AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:19
    Shorter business hours might be the real killer. Grabbing a quick drink after dinner or after a get-together just isn't feasible time-wise anymore, so people stopped going.
    99AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:20
    Re: #96 There's nobody left willing to work part-time late into the night.
    101AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:20
    Stuff like 'cheap all-you-can-drink!' deals are nothing but a social evil at this point. They need to be fully banned by law! Don't let the number of victims of alcoholics keep climbing!
    111AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:22
    Re: #101 The whole game in the nightlife trade is how much you can water down the drinks.
    105AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:21
    Feel like I've seen similar articles recently about ramen shops and traditional sweets shops going under too.
    121AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:25
    Re: #105 I think every industry's struggling honestly — construction, shipping, caregiving, food service.
    143AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:33
    The number of people who don't drink is definitely going up. Had a laugh once — went out to eat after work, I don't drink myself but picked an izakaya anyway to be considerate, and it turned out literally nobody in the group drank.
    146AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:34
    Re: #143 I mean, they could just beef up the food menu, no?
    155AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:40
    Re: #143 A coworker in their 20s who recently got married told me neither set of parents nor the newlyweds themselves drink. Guess that's just the era we're in now.
    165AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:46
    Even Torikizoku (a famous cheap yakitori chain) bumped everything up to 400 yen a dish — I've definitely been going a lot less.
    173AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:49
    Re: #165 The faith of true Torikizoku believers is being tested right now (。-人-。) — chanjya (spicy seasoned cod innards) and edamame, two dishes for 820 yen. https://torikizoku.co.jp/assets/uploads/2023/08/chanja.jpg https://torikizoku.co.jp/assets/uploads/2023/05/edamame.jpg
    177AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:51
    Re: #173 At that price I'll just boil some Tengu-brand edamame at home.
    182AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:55
    Re: #173 Exactly. Torikizoku was only cheap to begin with because the portions per dish were tiny. Now they've raised prices but kept the portions just as small, so it feels like a total ripoff.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Tokyo Shoko Research’s figures only cover formal legal bankruptcy proceedings involving debts of 10 million yen or more — they don’t include quiet closures or businesses that simply shut down. In other words, the “200 cases” figure is just the tip of the iceberg, and the actual decline in the number of izakayas is likely larger — a point that’s easy to overlook. Behind this lies a combination of rising labor and ingredient costs, along with falling foot traffic driven by younger generations drinking less (a trend that took hold after COVID) and shrinking late-night operating hours. A consumption tax cut could raise disposable income and boost demand for dining out, but commenters in the thread raised the opposite concern — that expectations of a tax cut could intensify competition over new store openings and price hikes, accelerating the weeding-out of smaller operators. Some also pointed to a broader economic pattern in which small and mid-size business bankruptcies actually rise even during a boom. The thread’s discussion split largely into two camps: questioning whether the izakaya business model is even necessary anymore, and frustration with pricing structures like mandatory appetizer charges and late-night surcharges. Many commenters also pointed to a generational shift in values, with more young people simply not drinking.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (News Flash+) thread “[Bankruptcy] Izakaya Bankruptcies Hit Record High, Could Top 200 for the Year for the First Time — Rising Costs and Price Competition, With Concerns a Consumption Tax Cut Could Push Numbers Higher —“.

  • Gonda Shuichi’s claim that “only Japan obsesses over GK footwork” draws pushback — 5ch: “Has he never heard of Neuer?”

    Vissel Kobe goalkeeper Gonda Shuichi, in an interview, questioned the modern soccer trend of prizing a GK’s “footwork/distribution skills” above all else, saying that focus is “actually unique to Japan.” His point: a keeper who can’t stop shots should never be rated highly, yet in Japan all the attention goes to passing ability. On 5ch, many pushed back by pointing to top overseas keepers like Neuer and Ederson as proof that footwork is valued worldwide too — while others raised the recent debate over Zion Suzuki’s save performances and the view that Japanese youth development tends to overrate small, technical players, splitting the discussion.

    Kobe GK Gonda Shuichi lays out his own theory on the footwork skills now demanded of modern goalkeepers

    In football in recent years, a goalkeeper’s “footwork technique” has rapidly grown in importance. In an era that praises keepers for joining the attack as essentially an extra field player, Vissel Kobe’s Gonda Shuichi — who has also played in Europe — quietly feels something is off about that trend. We dig into a theory of goalkeeping that only looks genuine coming from someone who has actually fought on the field. (Reporting and text by Yusuke Konishi, FOOTBALL ZONE editorial team / Part 2 of 5)

    “What is the true essence of being a goalkeeper?”

    Source: football-zone.net / Original article here

    3AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:31
    Has this guy never heard of Neuer?
    64AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:05
    Re: #3
    The point is it's meaningless unless you're at that level
    5AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:32
    The moment he starts making blanket claims like that, the argument falls apart
    7AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:34
    That's such a classically "bad at it himself" take, lol
    8AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:34
    Having that extra tactical option is a good thing though
    9AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:35
    Attacking with the keeper included is just modern soccer, and defense is the whole team narrowing shooting lanes together.
    As power and speed keep climbing like they have in other sports, there's no stopping this trend no matter what
    10AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:36
    Neuer: "Yeah, fair."
    Ederson: "Yeah, fair."
    Ter Stegen: "Yeah, fair."
    Zion: "…Is that really so?"
    52AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:00
    Re: #10
    I don't really picture Ederson making many saves
    but I guess that's unavoidable since he's just that dominant
    11AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:36
    A question immediately comes to mind:
    Does Gonda actually know much about goalkeeping at Europe's elite clubs and top leagues?
    Does he know much about the coaching and players at Japan's youth level?
    13AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:36
    Gon-Pink's actually saying something worthwhile. (nickname for Gonda)
    14AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:39
    Did even Gonda turn into one of those "back in my day" old-timers?
    15AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:39
    If a GK's footwork is garbage and the team just boots it long right away, the opponent recovers the ball and defensive situations pile up — meaning you end up conceding more goals anyway
    16AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:39
    That's basically the skill of rolling the ball into dangerous areas, isn't it
    20AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:41
    Re: #16
    Ogihara's face is faintly coming to mind (riffing on the meme phrase "it faintly comes to mind")
    21AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:41
    Even just having a GK who can hit accurate long feeds adds another option, so what's wrong with that
    22AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:42
    Counterattacking, solid-defense-and-quick-strike soccer is a loser's game!!
    Japanese soccer is attacking soccer — building up from the keeper, raising possession, seizing the initiative, and breaking teams down with passing!!
    24AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:43
    Honestly, Gonda's own save ability wasn't anything special either
    25AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:43
    Well, if you field a GK who can't stop shots, clearing the ball becomes mandatory and the option to build up play disappears entirely
    27AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:44
    Teams that are constantly on the front foot (the strong ones) versus teams constantly pinned back (the weak ones) probably see this differently, no?
    32AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:46
    > "A keeper who can't stop the shots that matter will never be rated highly"

    Well, saving shots is just the baseline since he's a pro — build-up play is the extra factor layered on top that gets evaluated, isn't it?
    Gonda, forget soccer, is your reading comprehension okay?
    46AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:56
    Re: #32
    "Just the baseline"…
    There's a real gap between an 80 and a 100, you know?
    Does "baseline" mean you think everyone's tied at 100 on shot-stopping?

    You're the one with the weak reading comprehension here.
    40AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:54
    Other factors only get evaluated on the premise that the keeper already has high-level saving ability to begin with
    90AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:16
    Re: #40
    That said, judging who's better at "saving ability" gets really technical — you'd probably need to be at goalkeeping-coach level to call it.
    Footwork skill, on the other hand, even an amateur can spot at a glance.
    So it's entirely plausible that on the ground, at scouting level, something like "can't tell who saves better between these two, but this guy's footwork is better so he gets picked" is actually happening.
    50AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:58
    If the GK can genuinely build up play properly, it should change how possessions develop compared to the opponent instantly collecting a long ball, and it seems like it'd cut down on dangerous moments too
    60AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:03
    Re: #50
    Rather than demanding build-up play from the GK, I'd rather
    field players practiced their throw-ins a bit more.
    Is there even a single strong team out there that's bad at throw-ins?
    59AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:03
    Even overseas, people diss this era as one where you can start as long as your distribution is good, even with mediocre catching
    63AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:04
    Re: #59
    That's a case of the means becoming the end.
    Thought that was a Japanese specialty (e.g., "running soccer"), but I guess it's the same overseas too
    62AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:03
    In this latest stretch of 4 matches, Zion had absolutely nothing to show for himself on saves
    85AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:15
    Re: #62
    The experts are saying those were no-chance shots the GK had no way of reaching anyway.
    Ever since the World Cup it's been nothing but no-chance shots — poor Zion (´;ω;`)
    81AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:14
    I'd buy it if this were coming from someone who's actually played in the Premier League or La Liga talking about world-class keepers, but…
    87AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:16
    Re: #81
    Someone who's never even properly played soccer, let alone gone pro,
    is using Gonda as ammunition to pontificate about world soccer
    83AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:15
    Still, it's true that thanks to Zion, the bar for Japanese GKs has shot way up
    94AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:18
    Re: #83
    Goalkeeping really was Japan's weak spot for ages.
    Kawashima especially was the type to roar and fly off the handle even when a goal was his own fault

    Background and key points of this debate

    In recent years, goalkeepers for Europe’s top clubs and for national teams that regularly feature in the Champions League have come under strong pressure to show “footwork skill” — joining the attack through passing and build-up play. This stems from high-press, possession-oriented tactics becoming mainstream, with the GK effectively treated as an 11th field player. That said, as pointed out in the thread, elite keepers like Neuer, Ederson, and Ter Stegen are world-class not just at footwork but at shot-stopping too — so it isn’t simply a case of “they play because they’re good with their feet.” Gonda’s comment is really aimed at a Japan-specific concern, that domestic youth development tends to overrate passing over saving, and isn’t a rejection of the broader overseas trend itself — a nuance that’s easy to misread.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Geisoku+) thread “[Soccer] The “footwork-first” trend is “actually unique to Japan” — Gonda Shuichi sounds the alarm… modern soccer’s blind spot: “the thing pros need least”“.

  • Why Did Italy Go From Roman Empire to Pizza Country? 5ch Weighs In

    The thread kicks off with a blunt question: “It used to be the Roman Empire, but now it’s just a country that makes pizza — why?” From there, discussion ranged over nations that have claimed to be “successors to Rome” — the Holy Roman Empire, Russia, France, the United States — and debated why Britain, once a backwater of the empire, ended up seizing world supremacy. That spiraled into a debate over the racial and ethnic makeup of ancient Roman citizens, citing genetic studies, before branching out even further into the hair color of Vikings and the original colors of ancient sculptures. The thread also drifted into pure chit-chat, with a video of a smiling Italian grandpa eating pasta and a graph showing how Japan and Italy always seem to end up next to each other on various national rankings, like wages.

    1AnonymousOct 6, 2026 19:37
    Why though?
    3AnonymousOct 6, 2026 19:40
    Wait, is Italy even the successor state to the Roman Empire?
    6AnonymousOct 6, 2026 19:43
    The city-republics kept doing pretty well even after the Roman Empire collapsed
    Re: #3
    Isn't it more that places like the Holy Roman Empire claimed the name "Rome" on the grounds of ruling northern Italy?
    18AnonymousOct 6, 2026 19:53
    Re: #3
    🇷🇺 "That's me!"
    95AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:53
    Re: #3
    France and the US (too)
    Russia also claims to be a successor, but it's communist, so it's really just a claim in name only
    4AnonymousOct 6, 2026 19:42
    Why did Britain, the most remote backwater of the Roman Empire, end up ruling the world?
    10AnonymousOct 6, 2026 19:45
    Re: #4
    Because there were no more invasions by foreign peoples after the Norman Conquest, and royal power was strong and centralized from the start
    24AnonymousOct 6, 2026 19:58
    Japan's probably headed the same way soon — just a country that makes sushi
    29AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:01
    Re: #24
    Compared to Italy, Japan's geopolitical importance is on a completely different level though
    28AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:01
    Rome → Kyoto
    Milan → Tokyo
    Venice → ?
    96AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:54
    Re: #28
    Isn't Greece more like Kyoto?
    35AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:09
    Re: #29
    Geopolitically, the locals only ever come out ahead when there's an independent, self-governing regime in charge there
    Just look at South America
    39AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:19
    Re: #35
    There are countries that have stayed independent throughout recorded history, you know
    36AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:14
    When you test DNA from the bones of Roman-era Roman citizens, they turn out genetically closer to Middle Easterners than to Europeans or modern Italians
    You can also estimate eye color from the genes, and most of them had dark eyes
    40AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:20
    Re: #36
    "Roman citizen" was a legal status, not a race, so the genetics would've varied a lot by region
    The 8th emperor, Vitellius, rose to power backed by Germanic citizens, so there must have been blond, blue-eyed Roman citizens too
    48AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:29
    Re: #36
    That's a result of multiple peoples flowing in via Mediterranean trade during Rome's rise — it doesn't carry over to the rest of the Italian peninsula outside the city of Rome
    Italy actually has big north-south genetic differences to begin with
    Even today, the south (including Rome) has kept its genetic continuity, with less Germanic influence than the north, so blond hair and blue eyes are rarer there
    66AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:39
    Re: #36
    Seriously? That never shows up on my YouTube feed 😲
    43AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:23
    Re: #40
    No, when they tested the genes of citizens within the city of Rome itself, it was almost all Middle Eastern
    44AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:26
    Re: #43
    "Middle East" covers a huge area though
    Persians, for instance, are Aryan just like modern Italians, so there's barely any difference
    46AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:28
    Re: #44
    https://www.science.org/cms/10.1126/science.aay6826/asset/a44162b4-1dce-4143-ac2f-d79c5ec4ade9/assets/graphic/366_708_f3.jpeg

    Plainly put, imperial-era Roman citizens were close to Syrians and Palestinians
    51AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:30
    Re: #46
    That was only for a brief moment
    Also, all the arrows point back to Europe anyway
    54AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:32
    Re: #46
    I read that original paper you're citing — its conclusion seems to be that Roman citizens were genetically diverse, not a uniform group
    It also says European influence grew stronger in the later period
    https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aay6826
    53AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:31
    Re: #51
    Wait, "a brief moment" — we're talking about the whole span of the Roman Empire here
    Medieval Italy was a backwater, plain and simple
    56AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:34
    Re: #53
    In the scope of long history, it IS a brief moment
    Also, Rome was more unified and stronger under the Republic, which is why it kept developing
    Its decline actually started once it became an Empire
    64AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:37
    Re: #53
    Whaaat, but the Renaissance started in Italy, didn't it?
    Re: #55
    The figures in the mosaics at the Roman-era Villa del Casale ruins are all blond and curly-haired — I wonder what ethnicity they were meant to depict
    55AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:33
    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/sep/16/dark-hair-was-common-among-vikings-genetic-study-confirms

    Even Scandinavians in the Viking age weren't mostly blond
    No way Germans in the Roman era were blond then
    60AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:35
    Re: #55
    But there's the Saga of Erik the Red, isn't there? (he was literally nicknamed "the Red" for his hair)
    65AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:38
    Re: #64
    This guy's just faking historical knowledge (エアプ — slang for pretending you know something you've never actually done)
    The Renaissance's main achievement was translating Middle Eastern texts
    69AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:39
    Re: #64
    Are you doing okay in general?
    Do you seriously think Jesus Christ was white just because European art paints him white?
    74AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:42
    Re: #65
    That's the 12th-century Renaissance you're talking about
    By the time of Leonardo da Vinci and Michelangelo, it was long past the era of just imitating Islamic scholarship
    Re: #69
    Isn't it more likely they painted blond, curly-haired people because such people actually existed in ancient Rome?
    You really think they'd go out of their way to paint their subjects to resemble some obscure people from some backwater nobody even knew the location of?
    75AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:43
    Re: #69
    If the Greeks were Arabs, why would they bother painting murals of European-looking people?
    82AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:46
    A proper scientist's reconstruction of an ancient Greek person
    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/10/14/23/396503F700000578-3839092-The_team_reconstructed_the_Griffin_Warrior_s_face_pictured_by_la-m-9_1476484135292.jpg

    Lmaooo
    87AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:48
    So what was Japan up to around that time??
    89AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:51
    Re: #87
    Probably just eating acorns and grunting like cavemen, right?
    90AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:51
    Re: #87
    Getting invaded by the Yayoi people
    92AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:52
    During the Viking age, the blond-hair gene was carried by Finland and "inland" Norway/Sweden — not by the coastal Germanic peoples
    The blond-hair gene actually originates in Siberia and migrated from northern Russia into Finland and inland Norway/Sweden
    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/cms/asset/0e6e2623-4413-4c38-9113-5282a6793b99/exd14142-fig-0002-m.jpg
    105AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:09
    This old Italian guy looks so happy just eating pasta, I'm jealous



    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1742567534568808448/pu/vid/avc1/480×854/3EX5jfmjsds0BLLr.mp4
    107AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:10
    Re: #105
    He looks like he's having the time of his life, lol
    119AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:17
    Re: #105
    So all that stuff about having to twirl pasta on your fork and never slurp it was a lie?
    115AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:15
    Japan and Italy always seem to end up right next to each other on all kinds of international comparison graphs

    I could only find the wage one, but that's exactly why I like it

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The thread starts from a blunt question — “Italy is supposedly the heir of the Roman Empire, so why is it now just a pizza country?” — but the historical skeleton underneath it is largely sound: the medieval-and-later contest over who gets to claim the title of “successor to Rome” (the Holy Roman Empire, Russia, France, the United States, and so on), and the account of how Britain, once a mere frontier province, rose to prominence through centralized royal power and the absence of foreign invasions after the Norman Conquest. As for the genetic diversity of ancient Roman citizens, posters do cite a real 2019 paper published in Science (Antonio et al.), which found that imperial-era Rome had a genetically diverse population due to the influx of multiple peoples via Mediterranean trade, and that European influence grew stronger in the empire’s later period. That said, the thread tends to oversimplify these findings into claims like “Romans were Middle Eastern” or “not European,” which misses the paper’s actual conclusion — that Roman citizens had no single racial origin. The comments about Viking hair color and the original colors of ancient sculptures are likewise grounded in genuine recent scholarship, but individual posts mix in images and assertions that are hard to verify, so none of it should be taken at face value.

    *This article excerpts and summarizes the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “Why Did Italy End Up as Nothing More Than a Pizza-Making Country, Despite Having Been the Roman Empire?“.

  • Unauthorized Access Hits Asahi Kasei Group Medical Site — 5ch: “How many of these a day now, lol”

    On October 6, 2026, Asahi Kasei Therapeutics, a pharmaceutical subsidiary of Asahi Kasei, announced that its website for healthcare professionals, “Pharma DIGITAL,” had suffered unauthorized access that may have exposed the personal information of up to roughly 558,700 people. The site was taken offline after a report from the outsourced operator, and no misuse of the leaked data has been confirmed so far. On 5ch’s News Flash+ board, users expressed shock at how many data-breach stories have surfaced in such a short span, voiced concern about increasingly sophisticated AI-driven attacks, and even raised broader doubts about the fragility of a cashless society and personal data management itself.

    Asahi Kasei Group Site for Healthcare Professionals May Have Leaked Data — Up to Roughly 560,000 People Affected

    Asahi Kasei Therapeutics (Chiyoda, Tokyo), a pharmaceutical subsidiary of Asahi Kasei, announced on the 6th that a website it operates for healthcare professionals had come under cyberattack. The unauthorized access may have leaked the personal information of up to approximately 558,700 people, including healthcare professionals.

    The site that suffered the breach was “Pharma DIGITAL,” which posts product information on pharmaceuticals. On the 2nd, the company received a report from the firm it outsources site operations to, warning of a possible data leak. The website was taken offline and additional measures were put in place to prevent further damage. No misuse of the data or related harm has been confirmed at this time.

    Source: nikkei.com / Original article here

    4AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:55
    How many of these stories drop in a single day, lol
    This is getting out of hand lol
    Did something cause a breakthrough?
    Maybe some AI tool is going around
    10AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:57
    Re: #4
    Could this be unrelated to that amendment to the Personal Information Protection Act or whatever it was?
    14AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:57
    Re: #4
    Something must've happened
    Maybe North Korea's mastered AI and is about to take over the world
    77AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:13
    Re: #4
    Maybe zero-day attacks just got a lot easier to pull off?
    17AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:58
    Having to deal with a company that handles personal info so carelessly
    Worst part is it's healthcare workers 🤢
    172AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:50
    Re: #17
    I only signed up to study, it's not fair to get dumped on like that
    18AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:59
    Are Amazon and DMM okay though?
    159AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:40
    Re: #18
    Probably already got hit too
    23AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:01
    Feels like AI's only good for crime, war, and porn at this point
    38AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:04
    Re: #23
    In that case it's contributing massively to human culture!
    32AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:03
    Maybe the cashless era is going to end sooner than we think

    If it's this easy to get hacked, cash is still the safer bet
    54AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:08
    Re: #32
    Feels like we're headed back to
    cash for money
    and paper for records
    46AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:06
    What's going on
    Has Skynet started already?
    47AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:06
    Re: #46
    Judgment Day is coming
    55AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:08
    If banks and credit card companies actually get hacked, that's literally the end of the world
    60AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:09
    Re: #55
    There's no way they haven't been already lol
    59AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:09
    My motorcycle's tire valve cap went missing last week or so
    Given everything going on, maybe that was a hack too
    66AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:11
    Re: #59
    Sounds like you fell victim to a highly advanced hack, my condolences…
    61AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:09
    Would be kind of funny if every citizen's bank balance hit zero
    Brokerage accounts work too
    72AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:12
    Re: #61
    A few years ago I had like 10 million yen in there, but now it's down to about 300,000, so even if I got hit, eh, whatever
    69AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:11
    Just wrap it in plastic cling film so it doesn't leak
    78AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:13
    Re: #69
    The clear stuff doesn't work.

    You wrap the server in aluminum foil instead.
    And make sure you crumple it up first and then flatten it back out. The irregular reflections make it physically harder to pinpoint the server's location, which helps keep hackers out.
    83AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:14
    This is just a matter of time at this point
    There's no way to counter AI
    Banks, card companies, brokerages, all of them
    Honestly, at this point it's probably already doable whenever someone feels like it
    98AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:17
    Re: #83
    Denmark had its national systems breached and citizens' data leaked
    Even the FBI got partially hacked and had staff information exposed
    Private companies probably can't defend against this anymore — especially Japanese companies, I'd guess pretty much all of them have already been hacked
    88AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:15
    What even is this
    What's about to start here?
    109AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:19
    Re: #88
    It's already begun.
    The dawn of a new world
    122AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:25
    Re: #88
    World War III
    90AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:15
    Re: #72
    You might wake up one day to find yourself millions of yen in debt
    Anyone who's ever submitted their driver's license or My Number card [Japan's national ID] to a company online is at risk
    106AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:19
    Re: #90
    The last bank account I opened, I was basically forced into it for payroll direct deposit, but back then a health insurance card was enough to pass verification
    There's no way I'd open a new one now
    107AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:19
    China and Russia are throwing sheer numbers at these cyberattacks
    Japan, stuffed with temp-staffing agencies, has no way to handle that
    111AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:20
    Re: #107
    A guy who works in security was saying this whole wave seems to be coming from China
    125AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:25
    If the banks go down, you wouldn't even be able to start a run on them
    127AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:27
    Re: #125
    Financial networks are closed systems, so even connecting to them in the first place is tough
    150AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:36
    Re: #127
    Well that's a relief to hear
    160AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:40
    Re: #127
    But once you throw social engineering into the mix
    you'd think AI alone couldn't pull it off
    but realistically, something as simple as video analysis from security cameras
    could probably get you there

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    This leak stands out for occurring in the relatively niche space of “Pharma DIGITAL,” a product information site for healthcare professionals, with the affected data apparently belonging to registered medical professionals such as doctors and pharmacists. Mandatory reporting requirements under the Personal Information Protection Act have made companies more likely to disclose possible leaks early, which is part of why similar news stories have been clustering in a short period of time. Many posters on the thread speculated that “AI has made attacks more sophisticated,” but Asahi Kasei has not disclosed the actual attack method or entry point, and no damage has been confirmed at this point. Some posts tied the incident to specific nationalities or domestic politics, but these are unsubstantiated speculation and have not been adopted in this article. For now, readers should be careful not to treat the situation as anything more certain than the “possible” leak the company has announced, pending any further updates.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (News Flash+) thread “[Breaking] Asahi Kasei Group Site for Healthcare Professionals Hit by Cyberattack, Up to Roughly 560,000 People’s Personal Information Possibly Leaked.”

  • Denmark international DF Storm also holds Japanese citizenship: “I know I have a chance”

    It’s been reported that Danish youth international defender Tobias Storm (22, NEC Nijmegen) holds both Danish and Japanese citizenship. His father is Danish and his mother is Japanese, and he reportedly conversed in Japanese with Japan national team players Sano Kota and Ogawa Koki. The Japan Football Association (JFA) is said to have reached out to him in the past. In a thread on 5ch’s Geino/Sports Express+ board, opinions were split — both over soccer’s rules on choosing international eligibility, and over just how well Japan’s “nationality selection” system for dual citizens actually functions in practice.

    Could Danish youth international defender Tobias Storm ever end up choosing Japan?

    The 22-year-old Storm joined Eredivisie side NEC Nijmegen this summer. Born to a Danish father and a Japanese mother, he reportedly also spoke Japanese with Japan national team midfielder Sano Kota and forward Ogawa Koki, who left Nijmegen this past summer.

    A fixture in Denmark’s youth national teams and considered a promising prospect, Storm holds both Danish and Japanese passports, according to Campo. The outlet notes that “once his time in the youth national teams is over, it isn’t certain whether he’ll go on to play for Denmark’s senior team,” leaving open the possibility that he could instead choose to represent Japan.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    6AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:35
    Unless he can hold down a starting spot in one of the Big Five leagues, he probably won't get minutes for the Japan national team.
    48AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:02
    Re: #6
    Defenders don't get held to quite that bar.
    7AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:36
    Doesn't nationality selection even matter in soccer?
    8AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:36
    Why's he still dual-national at 22?
    12AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:37
    Re: #8
    That's just because Japan doesn't actually enforce its no-dual-citizenship rule.
    36AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:56
    Re: #8
    Holding both a Danish and a Japanese passport —
    that's weird, right?
    Past 20 you're supposed to pick one, and if you choose the other country your Japanese citizenship lapses.

    So how old can you actually get away with this?
    If you never file, can you just keep both passports for life?
    9AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:36
    No use to us if he's not even living in Japan.
    11AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:37
    For now it looks like he's aiming to debut for the Denmark national team.
    13AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:38
    He's not like Zion or Nwadike — born and raised in Saitama.
    Well, if he picks Japan because he genuinely wants to, I'm fine with that.
    14AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:41
    Japan doesn't allow dual citizenship, but there's no actual penalty for not giving it up — total loophole.
    17AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:42
    Guess his Japanese name is settled: 飛安嵐 (reads close to "Tobia," and the last kanji literally means "storm" — a pun on Tobias Storm).
    24AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:51
    Re: #17
    Not bad — "Storm" (嵐, also the name of the boy band Arashi).
    19AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:46
    He'll probably stick with Denmark in the end, but Japan's short on young center-backs too.
    20AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:46
    He's been all-in on the Denmark setup this whole time, so he's not going to switch to Japan at this point.
    Same story with Nagata and Germany — he ended up sticking with Germany too.
    21AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:46
    If he lives in Denmark, he should just play for them.
    28AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:53
    Switching to Japan at this point is a tall order.
    He'd have to actually live in Japan, but his club's in Europe lol — not realistic.
    33AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:55
    Re: #28
    This isn't naturalization — he already holds Japanese citizenship.
    39AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:58
    Re: #33
    Seriously? Japan doesn't allow dual citizenship, so wouldn't his Japanese citizenship have lapsed the moment he got Danish citizenship?
    56AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:05
    Re: #39
    Renho never gave up her Taiwanese citizenship, but she wasn't stripped of her Japanese citizenship either, was she?
    65AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:10
    Re: #39
    I think some naturalized citizens from Brazil ended up dual-national too.
    43AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:00
    Cool name, and a Nordic defender sounded like a decent physical option for a second — but 1.75m? What's that about?
    He's shorter than your average Japanese defender.
    Not expecting much.
    45AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:02
    Re: #43
    He's actually 191cm though.
    50AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:03
    Re: #45
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobias_Storm
    Is the height on this page just wrong, then?
    63AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:09
    Re: #50
    That page has a bunch of errors — even his squad number's wrong.
    55AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:05
    Deadline for choosing a nationality:
    • Became a dual national before turning 20 → must choose by age 22
    • Became a dual national after turning 20 → must choose within 2 years of that

    So this guy picked Japanese citizenship at 20, then got Danish citizenship on top of it afterward.
    Which means he's got until 2 years after getting the Danish passport — up to age 24 — to choose between Japan and Denmark lol
    100AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:31
    Re: #55
    What are you talking about? This guy's had both Japanese and Danish citizenship since birth. He hasn't "chosen" anything.
    58AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:06
    Re: #36
    Holding multiple nationalities is legal.
    The "nationality selection" is just a "declaration" to Japan saying "I will retain my Japanese citizenship" — it's not actually picking one and giving up the other.
    Filing that declaration is a legal obligation, but there's no penalty provision for failing to, so it can be filed anytime with zero consequences.
    It's estimated that most people who are obligated to file it never actually do.
    The Foreign Ministry's own guidance is to issue Japanese passports to anyone with Japanese citizenship regardless of whether they've filed the declaration.

    First I'm hearing that most adults who end up dual national just leave it alone and stay dual indefinitely.
    64AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:09
    Re: #58
    For US-Japan dual nationals you can basically double-dip — use the US passport entering the US, and the Japanese passport entering Japan.
    73AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:12
    By the way, what's going on with Fukuda Shio? Is he developing well?
    89AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:24
    Re: #73
    Actually his numbers are better than that Shiogai guy's.
    He's still young, so he could end up in the national team picture too.

    German 2nd division stats:
    Shiogai: 5 games, 0G 0A — bench player
    Fukuda: 24 games, 8G 0A — key starter
    80AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:18
    Denmark and Japan are roughly on the same level, so I'd say he's better off picking the EU-member nationality.
    99AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:30
    Re: #80
    No way that's true.
    Even Japan's weak Honda-era national team beat Denmark outright at the World Cup, back when Bendtner and Tomasson were in their prime.
    Wait, did Denmark even make the last World Cup? lol

    Background and key points of this discussion

    Japan’s Nationality Act requires anyone who becomes a dual national before turning 20 to make a nationality “selection” by age 22, and anyone who becomes one after turning 20 to do so within two years. But this “selection” amounts to nothing more than a declaration that one will retain Japanese citizenship — there’s no provision forcing renunciation of the other nationality, and no penalty for failing to comply, so in practice plenty of people never file and simply stay dual nationals. The case of Renho’s Taiwanese citizenship, raised in the thread, was cited as an example of just how loosely this system is actually enforced. It’s a common misconception that Storm would have had to naturalize — he’s actually held Japanese citizenship since birth — and since international eligibility in soccer can still be switched up until a player’s senior-team competitive debut, there’s genuine room within the rules for the JFA’s past outreach to him.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geino/Sports Express+) thread “[Soccer] Danish youth international DF Storm: “I know I have a chance since I also hold Japanese citizenship” — JFA reportedly reached out in the past.”

  • 60-Something Man Shows Girl a Leaf, Asks “What Does This Make You Think Of?” — Fukuoka

    According to a suspicious-person alert site, at around 5 p.m. on October 5 at a housing complex in Kokura-Minami Ward, Kitakyushu City, Fukuoka Prefecture, a man believed to be in his 60s approached an elementary school girl, showed her a leaf, and asked, “What does this make you think of?” The man was reportedly wearing a light orange jacket. There are no reports of any harm done, but because the question was so abrupt and oddly philosophical, 5ch quickly filled with jokes invoking Plato’s Theory of Forms and the novel/film “How Do You Live?” At the same time, some lamented, “Has it really come to this — a middle-aged or older guy can’t even talk to a kid without getting reported?” — splitting opinion over how to take the encounter itself.

    (Fukuoka) Man speaks to girl at Tokuriki housing complex, Kokura-Minami Ward, Kitakyushu — October 5 | NEWSjp – Japan Suspicious Person Information Center

    Published 2026/10/06 18:20:00

    According to Fukuoka Prefectural Police, at around 5 p.m. on October 5, an incident occurred at a park in the Tokuriki housing complex, Kokura-Minami Ward, Kitakyushu City, in which a man approached an elementary school girl. (Description of the individual: male, approximately 60 years old, light orange jacket)

    Source: news.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:20
    That's not a leaf, it's a frog.
    4AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:21
    If this counts as "out," nobody's allowed to talk anymore.
    135AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:58
    Re: #4
    Bit late for that.

    An old guy talking to women or kids at all is already "out." Can't even make eye contact, can't get within two meters.
    6AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:21
    (;゚Д゚) Gotta be a leaf from the World Tree. js (5ch shorthand for "elementary schoolgirl")
    25AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:25
    He's basically a philosopher — right up there with Plato and Aristotle.
    28AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:25
    Old man: "One leaf is all I need" lol
    196AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:48
    Re: #28
    Well, the average age on this board is north of 50.
    31AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:26
    Maybe he's just a passing Wakuwaku-san (the craft-loving kids'-TV character from NHK's "Okaasan to Issho").
    32AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:26
    Guess once you hit 60 you really do get closer to the truth.
    35AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:26
    He's probably just diagnosing her Nen type (the aura-ability system from Hunter x Hunter).
    38AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:27
    Forget that, Re: #1 — check out my leaf. What do you make of this one?
    44AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:28
    "An approach incident occurred"… somebody explain in three lines what the actual problem is.
    46AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:28
    Pretty soon we're gonna get a report about a chubby bald guy asking for directions.
    50AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:30
    Sounds like something Jiji, the old mentor from Azumi, would say lol
    51AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:30
    The guy's a philosopher now lol
    54AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:31
    If this isn't allowed, then no matter how much trouble a kid looks like they're in, all we can do is look the other way.
    57AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:31
    Isn't this just Nanbara-san getting all sentimental? (comedian Kiyotaka Nanbara, known for reflective musings)
    58AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:32
    A power-harassment lawyer told me small talk is banned now.
    60AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:32
    Maybe the poor girl was just sitting there alone, and he was only keeping her company.
    62AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:32
    Guess we should just ban talking to strangers altogether at this point.
    63AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:32
    Re: #1
    Another weird one shows up lol
    Depending how you look at it, it's actually pretty philosophical lol
    64AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:32
    Maybe he's a professor somewhere — Genius Professor Yanagisawa? (manga character)
    65AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:33
    Looking at this leaf, how do you live? (riffing on "How Do You Live?")
    98AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:43
    Basically the message is "creepy otaku, don't talk to kids."
    151AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:08
    Re: #98
    A leaf otaku? (wink wink)
    131AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:54
    So what's that supposed to mean lol
    136AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:59
    Re: #131
    He found the Platonic Form in the shape of the leaf and asked the girl, "This is a leaf, but it is not a leaf. What do you think when you see it?"

    Background and Talking Points

    A “suspicious approach” report doesn’t mean a child was definitely harmed — police and private alert sites routinely collect and publish this kind of precautionary information so parents and local communities can stay alert to similar incidents. This case, too, is based on a sighting reported to Fukuoka Prefectural Police, and the man’s identity and motive remain unknown. What split opinion in the thread was how “abnormal” this kind of behavior should be considered. Some felt it’s stifling that an older man simply speaking to a child is now enough to get him reported and logged, while others argued that any adult approaching a child, whoever they are, warrants caution. Showing a kid a leaf and asking what it makes them think of is, absent any actual harm, easy to laugh off — but what’s easy to overlook is that these accumulated alerts can eventually reveal a pattern in one person’s behavior, so even if it’s treated as a joke here, keeping the record still serves a purpose.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “[Suspicious Approach] 60-Something Man Shows Girl a Leaf, Asks “What Does This Make You Think Of” — Fukuoka.”

  • ‘VIVANT’ Returns After 3-Week Break to a Wave of Complaints — Torture Scene and Stalled Plot Leave Viewers Uneasy

    Episode 19 of TBS’s Sunday Theater drama “VIVANT” aired on October 4 after a three-week hiatus for Asian Games coverage. The household rating rose 0.4 points from the previous episode to 15.4%, but on 5channel’s “Geinou/Sports News+” board (芸スポ速報+, an entertainment-and-sports-news discussion board), threads lit up with complaints that the episode’s torture scene “isn’t what you want on a Sunday night,” while others cried “trailer fraud” after the rescue operation teased in the preview failed to materialize on screen. Still, some pushed back — “holding back that much was them being considerate,” “they could’ve leaned even more violent” — splitting the thread between two running debates: how graphic the depiction should be, and how slowly the story is moving.

    October 5, 2026, 11:05 PM

    The torture scene depicted in Episode 19 of TBS’s Sunday Theater drama “VIVANT,” which aired on the 4th, has become a point of controversy among viewers.

    Episode 19 marked the show’s return after a broadcast hiatus for the Asian Games — its first new episode in three weeks. The average household rating came in at 15.4% (Video Research, Kanto region; figures throughout refer to this measure), up 0.4 points from Episode 18.

    Source: news.livedoor.com / Original article here

    3AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:14
    I wanted them to go all the way and actually show a real stabbing scene.
    4AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:15
    Jack Bauer from '24' did way more torturing than this.
    83AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:46
    Re: #4
    The scene in the final season where they beat a guy down and dig the SIM card he swallowed out of him — even knowing it's just acting, that made me gag.
    6AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:15
    That little bit was too much for you? lol. They were clearly holding back.
    7AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:15
    They're just going to pull the 'actually he was alive' twist in the finale, right?
    8AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:17
    Did they rip out fingernails or shove a hot poker somewhere unpleasant?
    127AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:02
    Re: #8
    Exactly — in real torture you don't actually cut fingers off, that just reduces the number of pain receptors available. You start by driving needles under the fingernails, then move on to the toes. Fixing someone's head in place and letting water drip onto their eyeball is also effective psychologically, since they can't even pass out to escape it.
    9AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:17
    That's the complaint? Not 'the rescue operation isn't going anywhere!'?
    10AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:17
    Can't they just make a drama like 'From the Northern Country' (北の国から, a beloved, gentle slow-life Japanese drama) instead?
    13AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:18
    The preview footage showed them storming in, but none of that happened at all — the plot had barely moved even before the two-week break, and now we're still just getting to the raid? How slow can this show possibly be? Cut it out with the false-advertising previews! Getting my hopes up and then having the story not move at all — what is that?
    15AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:19
    Nothing but long-winded exposition and bad pacing — I'm bored stiff. At this point the villains' meeting-room scenes are more entertaining.
    23AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:23
    I hear a female operative got captured too — nothing untoward happened to her, right?
    33AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:26
    Re: #23
    I figured if someone had to die, they might pick the female Bepan agent (別班, the drama's secret black-ops unit) since it'd hit harder — but nope, smoothly skipped over again. I guess because with a woman it'd veer into fan-service territory, lol.
    29AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:25
    The story really isn't moving. I bet it just ends with 'rescue succeeds, and it turns out so-and-so was actually XX all along.' I thought this was supposed to be an adventure romp, but there's zero excitement left — it's gotten predictable and boring. No way this sells overseas like this.
    43AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:32
    Re: #29
    No action from Isao Hashizume or Akio Kaneda (veteran supporting cast members) either. If only there'd been a Season 3. Oh, it's a movie instead? Lame. Are they even trying anymore?
    44AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:32
    Re: #29
    If this were '24,' they'd have already pulled off the rescue before the Asian Games break, then come back from the hiatus straight into a fight over the Purisha (プリシャ, a fictional resource/plot device in the show) and a final showdown with Shinshi — that's the pace this show should have.
    35AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:27
    Realizing the guy playing 'Drum' (ドラム, a masked character in the series) is going to be out of work again once this show wraps made me a little sad.
    37AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:28
    Re: #35
    Nowadays it's all about Chokky.
    62AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:39
    Re: #35
    If you're planning to sell that acrylic stand figure you impulse-bought, now's the time.
    56AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:37
    Seriously though, the story isn't moving at all — it's just stuck fumbling around in the same spot.
    77AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:44
    Re: #56
    I wonder why they're so insistent on carefully drawing out everything before the operation even starts. Last episode showed Japan being competent, but it was still rough going. They've already got the cook on their side — just poison everyone's food except the Bepan agents' and call it a day.
    57AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:38
    This isn't some niche anime for otaku — the direction just needs to make it clear torture happened, that should be enough. (Haven't actually watched it myself though.)
    66AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:40
    Re: #57
    All I'm seeing is direction that shows nothing but a shadow and implies someone got killed, lol.
    60AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:39
    If you're going to complain about this, you should've quit watching back when they used that camera trick to make it look like they'd hanged a hostage's family member as a threat.
    73AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:44
    Re: #60
    Personally, I don't think violent scenes are inherently a bad thing. If it's the hero's side cutting loose and coming out on top, that's actually satisfying to watch. But this episode was just one ally after another getting worn down and torn apart, over and over — it's pure stress and pure gore with nothing else to it. The Sunday Theater slot could stand to be a bit simpler than this.
    81AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:46
    A stalled plot, padding for time, reeling people in with guest voice casting, foreshadowing piled on foreshadowing to get the theory-crafters going — just from that description, you'd think this was One Piece.
    107AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:54
    Re: #81
    That's exactly why the single, 40-something One Piece otaku crowd is hooked on this.
    93AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:51
    Was the torture really that intense? I sometimes check the gore megathread on the Occult board, and the stuff with Mexican cartels cutting off rival members' fingers looks genuinely excruciating.
    99AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:52
    Re: #93
    They cut off all five fingers and just left them lying there. There was also a silhouette-style shot of a knife going into someone's chest. But that guy's not actually dead, is he?
    106AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:54
    Re: #99
    There are so many of those Mexico videos out there I can't even tell which one you're talking about…
    109AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:57
    Re: #99
    There have been so many 'actually he was alive' reveals that it's starting to feel stale. Which is probably why Yamamoto (a character who actually died in the series) is so popular — he's one of the few who really stayed dead.
    117AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:59
    Fast pacing was one of the reasons this show caught on in the first place — slow pacing just doesn't work for it.
    130AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:03
    Re: #117
    They're probably stretching things out because there's a movie planned. Though it doesn't seem to have been officially announced yet…
    132AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:03
    Re: #1
    Still, the ratings are holding up. Haven't watched it myself. At this rate there'll be a Season 3. Not that I'll be watching that either.
    135AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:05
    Re: #132
    You don't have to force yourself to watch it, you know.

    Background and key debates

    “VIVANT” is a sequel series to the TBS Sunday Theater drama that aired in 2023 to high ratings; the episode discussed here, Episode 19, aired after a three-week hiatus for Asian Games coverage. The 15.4% household rating was up 0.4 points from the previous episode, suggesting viewer interest held up through the break. The thread split along two lines. One was the intensity of the torture depiction: some felt it “isn’t what you want in the Sunday-night slot,” while others countered it was restrained compared to overseas shows like “24.” The other was the show’s slow pacing — viewers were frustrated that the rescue-operation footage teased in the preview never showed up in the actual episode, branding it “trailer fraud,” while others speculated the show was being stretched out ahead of a planned film. Commenters also compared the scene to real-world torture methods and referenced Mexican cartel violence, but these were offered as reference points for gauging the show’s realism rather than claims about any specific incident or person.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “‘VIVANT’ Returns After 3-Week Break to Viewer Complaints — Graphic Torture Scene ‘Not What You Want on a Sunday Night,’ Plus a Plot That Won’t Move.”

  • Tetsuya Takeda’s Lyrics for “Okuru Kotoba”: 5ch Erupts Into Debate Over What They Actually Mean

    “Don’t ask for kindness — that’s just an excuse cowards make.” A line from Kaientai’s “Okuru Kotoba” (A Word to Send You Off), written by Tetsuya Takeda, sparked a debate over its true meaning on the Japanese forum 5ch. It started with a post from someone who said an older passenger played them the song and, hearing the lyrics properly for the first time, they were moved to tears. From there, interpretations piled up — “Isn’t this a dig at an ex?”, “Doesn’t it mean that only wanting kindness from others is what makes you a coward?” — and the thread caught fire. An argument broke out partway through over how to read the lyrics, but by the end someone offered a reframing — “it’s a song about choosing to love rather than be loved” — that completely flipped the mood of the thread.

    1AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:42
    Had someone a lot older than me riding along earlier, and we were listening to this.
    Found out what the lyrics actually meant for the first time…
    and cried.
    4AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:45
    Wait, but could it be that even back then, they deliberately wrote the lyrics as a kind of "intentional contrarian take" — like what we'd call being deliberately edgy today — just to grab attention?
    6AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:48
    ・I wish that person would be a bit kinder.
    ・I wish everyone in the world were kind.
    ・I want my kid to grow up to be a kind person.

    Those are just things that popped into my head — stuff I genuinely think in real life — but… does that make them a "coward's excuse" too?

    Too sad to handle.
    7AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:53
    I obviously knew the chorus and all, but this is the first time I've actually listened all the way through and taken in the lyrics properly.
    Shocked that it's such a sad song.
    8AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:59
    The moment you're asking the other person for something, you're already a coward.
    13AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:09
    Re: #8
    Re: #9
    No, it's the person who wrote lyrics like this, and people like you, who are the real cowards.
    You're just justifying yourselves by saying "being unkind is the default for humans."
    Cowards.
    14AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:10
    Re: #13
    The lyrics themselves don't even mean that.
    9AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:00
    Calling this song 'lonely' is pretty messed up in itself.
    10AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:01
    Tetsuya Takeda's just a guy who's hard on other people.
    19AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:12
    Re: #10
    Yeah, his mom was a tough one.
    11AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:02
    According to the man himself, it's a breakup song.
    12AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:07
    If these are words sent to an ex, that's a pretty nasty personality coming through lol
    16AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:11
    Re: #11
    I see… never would've guessed that from listening to the song lol. A breakup song. A love song. Is that really what the lyrics are… if so…
    Tetsuya Takeda is seriously Re: #12 lol
    20AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:12
    Kaientai's "Okuru Kotoba"
    Takako Okamura's "Yume wo Akiramenaide" (Don't Give Up on Your Dreams)
    Two songs everyone thinks are anthems of encouragement… that are actually breakup songs
    21AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:13
    It's because there are so many people saying sad stuff like this that Japan ends up with a society where "kind person = coward" and "kind person = laughingstock."
    23AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:14
    Re: #21
    You're misreading the meaning in the first place.
    28AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:17
    Re: #21 is the default world we live in, so you end up with a structure where mocking people earns you praise, looking down on people draws a crowd, and the less kind you are — the more you set people up, deceive them, use them — the more the world rewards you.

    A sad world, huh.
    22AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:14
    I'll still say it proudly: I want my kid to grow up kind! Be nice to people!!!
    25AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:15
    Better to live your life trusting people than to go around lamenting that you can't trust anyone.
    31AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:19
    'Kind' is also the desperate compliment people reach for when someone has no other redeeming qualities, so yeah, these lyrics are pretty brutal when you think about it.
    35AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:22
    Re: #31
    I see… these might be seriously messed-up lyrics.
    32AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:21
    The first verse and the second verse actually contradict each other.
    37AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:25
    Re: #32
    Huh 😳 I'll listen to the whole thing properly later!
    34AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:22
    A song Tetsuya Takeda wrote the lyrics for, released four months after "Okuru Kotoba" — turns out he can write stuff like this too:

    I'm right here, in your pocket,
    waiting so we can travel together,
    waiting until you notice me.
    What was it you dreamed of?
    Let's go there together now.
    It's a world so far away, yet so close.
    A sky stretches out inside your pocket too,
    clouds drift by inside your pocket too.
    There's a world this wonderful,
    a world where you and I can travel together.
    38AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:25
    Celebrities are all a little off in the head anyway.
    It's just that sometimes they happen to be more right than the rest of society.
    39AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:26
    These lyrics are exactly as messed-up as saying "bullied kids brought the bullying on themselves!"
    56AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:56
    Re: #39
    Sure, maybe the person being bullied has some small part in it, but that's never a reason it's okay to bully them.
    And honestly, casually mocking or sneering at things you don't even understand is just rotten.
    If you said something like "haha, that guy doesn't even have hands" about someone with a limb difference, society would hate you for it — so I genuinely don't understand why bullying gets a pass.
    61AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:00
    Re: #56
    You put it so clearly…
    You said everything I wanted to say, on my behalf, and it nearly made me cry.
    Re: #56, you're a savior too.
    49AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:45
    It's a song about becoming someone who can be kind to others, rather than someone who only ever demands kindness from others.
    (Loving, rather than being loved)
    A way of living and a stance that finds more value in actively, deliberately loving someone than in passively being on the receiving end of love.
    53AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:50
    Re: #49
    Whoa——————!!!!!
    I guess you could read these lyrics that way too…
    So it's like: write it in a deliberately harsh way on the surface, but underneath the underneath the underneath, that's really what it means?
    That kind of lyrics—!!!————————————!!!
    Huh, that makes sense! I feel genuinely relieved now.
    Ohh, so that's the way he was trying to say it.
    Then it's a beautiful song after all!
    Sorry, Tetsuya Takeda-san, you weren't someone spreading sadness after all.
    57AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:57
    So it's the Re: #49 reading, huh… I see…
    It was buried so deep under the underneath of the underneath that I couldn't get it…

    It's the cowards, the ones who can't be kind to others,
    who are always the ones demanding kindness from others

    …then even I might have understood what wonderful thing Takeda-san was trying to say, if the lyrics had been something like that.
    Seriously, Re: #49, you're a savior.
    50AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:47
    Lyrics ahead of their time — basically predicting the 'it's all on you' era of personal responsibility.

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    Kaientai’s “Okuru Kotoba” (A Word to Send You Off) was released in 1979, with lyrics written by Tetsuya Takeda. It’s best known as a graduation-ceremony staple with an “encouraging anthem” image, but it’s not widely known that, taken as a whole, the lyrics are actually about a breakup. The point the thread split over was how to read the line “Don’t ask for kindness — that’s just an excuse cowards make”: taken literally, is it a criticism meaning “the person who wants kindness is the real coward,” or does it mean the opposite — “the coward is the one who only wants kindness but never gives it”? The reading that emerged later in the thread — “it’s a song conveying the value of choosing to love rather than be loved” — shifted the whole mood, but it’s worth noting this was just one participant’s guess, not an explanation from Takeda himself. The lyrics’ official intended meaning has never been published, so which interpretation is actually “correct” remains genuinely unknown.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Tetsuya Takeda (77), “Don’t ask for kindness — that’s just an excuse cowards make”.”

  • Yoshihiro Togashi Announces He’s Scaling Back Work Requests, Citing Physical and Mental Health Issues

    Yoshihiro Togashi, the manga artist known for HUNTER×HUNTER and other works, announced on his official X account that he will be scaling back work requests due to physical and mental health issues. Since he’s already notorious for his frequent hiatuses, 5ch’s live discussion thread lit up with reactions ranging from shock (“Wait, he wasn’t already holding back?”) to blunt jabs like “He’s turning into the boy who cried wolf.” At the same time, there were messages of concern for his health, alongside tangents about the future of the Dark Continent arc and how certain characters are being handled — reactions were all over the map.

    Tue, Oct 6, 8:30 PM

    Manga artist Yoshihiro Togashi announced on his official X account that he will be scaling back his workload. The announcement has sparked an outpouring of concern and well-wishes from fans.

    Togashi is the creator of HUNTER×HUNTER, as well as Yu Yu Hakusho and Level E.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:46
    Wait, that wasn't him already holding back?
    6AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:48
    Guess he's been working too hard (´・ω・`)
    7AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:48
    It's not 'scaling back' — he's been doing nothing BUT scaling back.
    8AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:49
    He's always on hiatus, so now he's basically the boy who cried wolf.
    9AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:49
    Should've just ended it when he reunited with his dad…
    12AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:51
    Guess he just wants an excuse to take a break, as always.
    13AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:52
    I remember reading it way back when.
    Ask me if I want to reread it now, though… not really.
    15AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:53
    Why not draw when you CAN draw, instead of only drawing once you can't anymore, seriously.
    16AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:54
    If he scales back any more he'll have nothing left to do but play video games.
    17AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:54
    At this rate they could squeeze out like two more full anime remakes before this thing's finished.
    Hurry up and get your feet on solid ground already (a nod to Ging's famous advice to Gon about 'walking the earth').
    18AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:55
    lol I still have zero grasp on this Dark Continent arc
    Does anyone even care about Tserriednich at this point?
    25AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:58
    Re: #18
    Yeah, in this latest chapter they turned him into a pathetic pushover just to hype up Hisoka…
    He literally wet himself the second he saw a vision of Hisoka killing him and bolted.
    38AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:04
    Re: #18
    That's hilarious though.
    19AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:56
    He's ALWAYS scaling back. Other manga artists must be furious.
    20AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:56
    He should've prioritized his own manga over outside work requests from the start.
    21AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:57
    Was he even regularly drawing anything besides HxH manuscripts…?
    22AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:57
    It would've made a great series finale right after Meruem's defeat, when Gon finally meets Ging.
    23AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:57
    Guess all his previous 'scaling back' wasn't enough.
    26AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:59
    'Meruem: What's He Selling on Mercari?' — The Chapter ←(submitted by Someone) Wouldn't this title work just as well? (a pun on how 'Meruem' sounds like 'Mercari,' the flea-market app)
    28AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:00
    As if he hadn't already been scaling back this whole time.
    32AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:01
    His wife's actually licensed as both a pharmacist and a clinical lab technician, you know.
    33AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:02
    Did he even have any 'work requests' besides drawing HUNTER×HUNTER?
    35AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:03
    HUNTER×HUNTER is the one series I'd actually rebuy.
    It's worth it — I've lost count of how many times I've reread it.
    36AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:03
    It's basically a squeezed-dry manga at this point, who cares lol
    I don't know much about it, but the Dark Continent enemies are supposed to be ridiculously strong, right?
    Just end it with everyone instantly wiped out and slap a Game Over screen on it
    'It was all just a game' — the end.
    43AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:07
    Re: #36
    Aboard the ship bound for the Dark Continent, a death-game succession battle for the Kakin royal throne has broken out, forsooth.
    With Hunters as bodyguards and the Phantom Troupe sneaking in among the regular passengers, it's total chaos.
    39AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:04
    The whole series started from the idea of turning a game into manga anyway,
    so that'd be a pretty fitting way to wrap it up, honestly.
    40AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:04
    Not gonna lie, I've lowkey been wanting a Killua & Gon figure lately (ヽ´ω`)
    46AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:09
    'The Manga That Kills You If You Read It…' ←lol (literally "waroosu," old-school net slang for "lol")
    '〇ぬ' (die)? What is this, some old Denpa Shōnen stunt?
    47AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:09
    A job with no deadline… helping out his wife, maybe?
    48AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:09
    Just let him do whatever he wants

    If you don't like it, don't buy it

    Think of this as a side story about Kurapika's revenge for now.
    54AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:14
    Nagano's been grinding hard on FSS lately
    Maybe he's realized he's already 60 and doesn't have much time left?
    Though no matter how you slice it, he's never going to finish the whole timeline he laid out
    Then again, that series goes 'anything goes,' so he can end it however he wants.
    57AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:15
    Re: #54
    Yes, Sir!
    69AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:27
    If there's no deadline in a creative job,
    that's not a business anymore, that's a hobby.
    71AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:29
    Re: #69
    Product-out thinking isn't the only driver of the economy, you know.
    If anything, the new-gen economy might be built mainly around that kind of thing…
    70AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:28
    Sorry for the sudden serious reply, but a lot of these comments don't seem to really get what 'scaling back' even means here… I mean, don't go making people around you cry over this or whatever.
    75AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:30
    Re: #70
    Serious reply aside, it's not clear who you're even talking to, so that comment probably isn't reaching anyone.

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    Togashi has a long history of extended hiatuses every time his serialization resumes, so the thread was full of skeptical jabs like “Wasn’t all his previous scaling-back not enough already?” and “He’s always on break, so now he’s basically the boy who cried wolf.” The article never specifies exactly what “work requests” refers to, and some commenters questioned whether he had any regular work besides the main HUNTER×HUNTER manuscript. In other words, it’s worth noting that readers never quite agreed on whether this announcement means “the main series will slow down even further” or simply “he’s turning down one-off outside requests” — the discussion moved forward with that ambiguity unresolved. The thread also branched out into debates over the Dark Continent arc’s endgame and how certain characters are being handled, plus comparisons to fellow artist Mamoru Nagano’s own long-running serialization.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Manga Artist] Yoshihiro Togashi Announces He’s Scaling Back Work Requests — Citing Physical and Mental Health Issues… Comments of “I’m worried… please don’t push yourself” Spread“.

  • Core i9-14900K Degradation Strikes Again — 4th Replacement Chip Fails Even After BIOS Update

    A Reddit post is making waves after a user who has already replaced their Core i9-14900K three times since launch reported an invalid memory access error (0xC0000005) on their fourth chip as well — this time in a system paired with an RTX 5090 and 64GB of DDR5-6000. The user said they’d already applied the degradation-related BIOS update and left all settings at Intel’s defaults. On 5ch’s hardware board, opinions split over whether this is a genuine product defect or self-inflicted damage from running the chip too hard, with some users chiming in that their 13900K or 13700 has run fine the whole time, and others praising how generous Intel’s warranty support has been.

    Is the Core i9-14900K still degrading even after the BIOS update?

    User who already swapped it three times reports yet another error

    A user who says they’ve replaced their Core i9-14900K three times since launch is reporting on Reddit that errors have started showing up on the fourth chip too, in a PC paired with an RTX 5090 and 64GB of DDR5-6000 memory. The user had already updated their motherboard’s BIOS to guard against degradation and says they simply loaded Intel’s default settings — yet they’re still getting error code 0xC0000005, which indicates invalid memory access.

    Source: gazlog.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousOct 6, 2026 11:54
    Buying one of these on purpose at this point is just asking for trouble 😰
    4AnonymousOct 6, 2026 11:55
    Just hold out for the Core 200 series
    46AnonymousOct 6, 2026 14:04
    Re: #4
    The current gen is Core Ultra 200S, right?

    Re: #18
    I mean, calling the 13th/14th gen problem "solved" is a stretch — it's more like they throttled things down to stop physical damage, which tanks performance. It's an awkward generation either way.

    If you're buying now, you're better off waiting for next year's Nova Lake gen (Core Ultra 400S?)
    6AnonymousOct 6, 2026 11:59
    Is there even such a thing as a CPU that doesn't degrade in the first place?
    7AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:01
    Re: #6
    If you treat them properly, memory and CPUs are basically built to last forever.
    25AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:25
    Re: #6
    Normally a CPU doesn't degrade at all. Overclocking outside spec is a different story though.
    11AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:05
    Well, obviously if you run something into the ground, its lifespan is going to run out eventually.
    13AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:10
    Re: #11
    No, it's an issue before that even comes into play. Intel itself acknowledged the problem — that's exactly why they went out of their way to extend the warranty period.

    Honestly, safest bet is to just not touch it. It's not only the 14900K — both the 13th and 14th gen have this flaw. If you want to stick with Intel, you're better off going with something like the 285K.
    12AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:08
    Re: #7
    Pairing a 14900 with a 5090 was never going to be an "ideal" setup to begin with.
    15AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:12
    Re: #12
    Running it past 200W — or in some cases past 300-400W — is just absurd. If you keep it under 65W with a proper cooler, the CPU basically won't degrade.
    16AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:14
    Re: #15
    True, but if that's all it takes, there's no reason to buy a high-end CPU at all — a 13400 would do just fine.
    19AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:17
    Re: #15
    For someone who's only ever run 65W-class CPUs, that's a world I can't even picture.
    18AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:15
    Motherboard-level controls alone can only do so much. The CPU that actually fixed the bug is the Core 200 series.
    26AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:28
    Turned out to be a defective chip, like the Zudah (a Gundam mobile suit infamous for burning itself out when pushed too hard).
    28AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:39
    Re: #26
    Nah, the Zudah was still the fastest even so — that's different. Don't insult the Zudah.
    31AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:50
    I'm on 13900K, and I'm on my 3rd replacement now.
    For what it's worth, when you file an RMA with Intel they just swap it out right away without asking questions — pretty sure they know about this internally.
    57AnonymousOct 6, 2026 15:22
    Re: #31
    Can't tell if that's reassuring or terrifying.
    34AnonymousOct 6, 2026 13:15
    No real problems here — still running my 9900K.
    74AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:16
    Re: #34
    Same here, zero complaints with my 9900K either. I've basically become a Coffee Lake old-timer at this point.
    41AnonymousOct 6, 2026 13:46
    A ton of 13900K users nobody's ever seen on Gaha (5ch's hardware/console board) suddenly showing up to defend it.

    Someone actually show me a few of your setups.
    49AnonymousOct 6, 2026 14:25
    Re: #41
    I can post it once I'm home — I've actually posted it on Gaha a few times already. 13900K and a 4090.
    52AnonymousOct 6, 2026 14:38
    Re: #41
    There are a lot of people like you — guys who can't build a PC themselves and just want to believe every setup they can't afford is fake.
    47AnonymousOct 6, 2026 14:19
    I'm on a 13700, no issues, 3 years in without a single error. Cinebench R23 pulls 26000 at a 170W limit, no problems there either.
    That said, I do think people with no PC knowledge should probably steer clear of these chips.
    Prebuilt PCs that advertise i7/i9 chips are usually locked down to something absurd like 110W in the BIOS to begin with,
    so there's nothing to worry about there in the first place.
    Just pop open a prebuilt and look at the CPU cooler —
    you don't even need to check the specs to know what wattage that machine is designed for.
    Unless it's got liquid cooling, there's no way it's pushing past 200W.
    The people saying "it broke on me" are either early self-build adopters or hardcore benchmark junkies.
    50AnonymousOct 6, 2026 14:29
    Re: #47
    Yeah, outside of self-built rigs it basically never breaks. Every prebuilt I've ever seen has nothing but a stock top-flow cooler.
    58AnonymousOct 6, 2026 15:23
    "That's just how it turned out" is a cute way to put it, but I'm not buying it — CPU failure-rate surveys actually found AMD chips failing more often than the problem-plagued Intel generations.
    62AnonymousOct 6, 2026 15:43
    Re: #58
    Intel's handling the people whose chips actually broke in good faith, so what's the issue? Why are bystanders picking fights with the people reporting failures?
    61AnonymousOct 6, 2026 15:38
    Hoping Raptor Lake Next has this fixed, but I think I'll wait and see. Well, I'm still on 12th gen right now, so even if it's no good I can always just go back to this.
    64AnonymousOct 6, 2026 15:59
    Re: #61
    It's not fixed at this point. They've redesigned and updated the circuitry in other areas,
    but the voltage/current design flaw itself hasn't been touched lol.
    Though we won't really know for sure until the product's actually out in the wild.
    70AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:06
    Does this happen during heavy workloads or gaming? I've got a 13900K and I'm honestly not sure.
    71AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:10
    Re: #70
    Maybe yours is already broken and you just haven't noticed.
    78AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:55
    Does Intel even make a game console?
    87AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:20
    Re: #78
    The original Xbox was a custom Pentium III + GeForce3 setup, I believe.
    And there's apparently some new UMPC (ultra-mobile PC) that came out recently too.

    Re: #80
    Even with memory — a PC running fine, shut down normally, then BSODs over and over the next morning.
    Checked it and found a ton of memory errors. Makes you wonder what happened overnight.
    80AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:00
    It worked fine for ages, then one day it just… stops working out of nowhere, that's the scary part.
    90AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:39
    I've got a 14400 but I turn Turbo Boost off. Thanks to that, it only climbs to about 50°C even under heavy load.
    108AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:30
    Re: #90
    Turning off Turbo Boost on an Intel chip — are you serious? Base clock's gotta be like 2GHz then, right? lol
    93AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:51
    I don't think that's really the point. Intel chips wear down a little every time you use them — once that wear kicks in, degradation speeds up and eventually it fails completely. Even after the patch, it's only being held in check, not actually fixed.
    105AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:25
    Re: #93
    Don't post if you don't understand how it works lol. As long as your settings aren't causing massive power spikes, this isn't even a problem to begin with.
    98AnonymousOct 6, 2026 19:31
    Why did Intel end up degrading like this?
    101AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:17
    Re: #98
    Because the CEO couldn't bring himself to admit Moore's Law was dead.
    111AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:38
    Yeah no, I'll pass on Ryzen though lol
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HRXBXf0aUAAjbqx.jpg:orig

    Background and key points of the debate

    The age-related degradation seen in Intel’s Core i9-13900K/14900K chips is known as the “Raptor Lake instability issue,” attributed to excessive voltage requests during idle states. Intel has issued several microcode updates (such as 0x129) to cap the voltage ceiling, and has also extended the warranty period to five years. However, these updates only slow the progression of degradation — they don’t restore chips that have already worn down. The thread split over whether the error reported this time is a genuine “product defect” or a problem with the user’s own power settings (overclocking, high PL2 limits). Those defending Intel pointed to environmental factors on the user’s end, like running without liquid cooling or pushing past 200W, while those reporting failures countered that it happens even at stock settings. There was also disagreement over the basic premise that “CPUs shouldn’t degrade in the first place” — some argued wear is inevitable under heavy use, while others insisted a properly run CPU should last essentially forever. One point not raised in the thread but worth noting: whether the next-generation Arrow Lake and Nova Lake architectures, which have been redesigned, have actually eliminated this same risk remains unconfirmed, since there isn’t yet enough real-world usage data to say for sure.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware / Industry (Gaha)) thread “[Sad News] Intel 14th-gen CPU degradation still occurring even after BIOS update [Sony Is Over]“.