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  • Detective Conan’s All-Time OP/ED National Poll Results Are In — Fans Say TOP 30 List ‘Makes Too Much Sense’

    On November 11, Yomiuri TV’s music special ‘Best Hit Kayosai 2026’ aired a national poll held to mark the 30th anniversary of the ‘Detective Conan’ TV broadcast, unveiling a TOP 30 ranking chosen from all 138 opening and ending theme songs in the show’s history. On 5ch threads, some fans championed Rina Aiuchi’s songs for placing so high, while others pushed back against the exclusion of early fan favorites like twomix and GARNET CROW — and the discussion grew into a mix of nostalgia and behind-the-scenes trivia, touching on Miho Komatsu’s “masked singer” legend and the circumstances behind Azumi Uehara’s songs being left out.

    2026-11-11 21:00

    The Yomiuri TV/NTV music special ‘Best Hit Kayosai 2026’ (airing from 7:00 PM) broadcast on the 11th, featuring a special collaboration tying in with the 30th anniversary of the anime ‘Detective Conan.’ The ranking of all-time openings and endings was announced.

    This special collaboration marks the anime ‘Detective Conan”s 30th anniversary of its TV broadcast, reached this past January. Out of all 138 opening and ending theme songs from the past 30 years, the ranking was decided by a national vote held over roughly one month. Conan Edogawa, Ran Mouri, and Ai Haibara revealed the TOP 30 openings and endings on the show.

    Source: oricon.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:45
    Watching Showa-retro exploration videos beats watching the Omiya Park 'Peace-kun' mascot on YouTube any day.
    4AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:47
    Seriously, twomix didn't even crack the ranking? How does that happen?
    10AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:49
    What was that one song that sounds like a Buddhist sutra being rapped?
    11AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:49
    They say the world keeps turning, but still…
    14AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:50
    Surely he'd notice by now
    Kogoro Mouri
    hasn't done a thing
    16AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:50
    I want to do something risky too, like standing on ice.
    20AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:50
    Oh right, Mai Kuraki and Rina Aiuchi were both huge around the same time. Takes me back.
    21AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:50
    Wasn't there one with Baroo (Kogoro's catchphrase, a mangled 'you idiot!') doing the parapara dance?
    That one was surreal and hilarious.
    22AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:51
    It's Miho Komatsu's 'Nazo' (Mystery)
    Some idol did a cover of 'Nazo,' but Komatsu's original is still the best.
    25AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:51
    I loved Mai Kuraki's 'Revive.'
    26AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:51
    Being Inc. had this on lockdown until around 2000 — whose monopoly is it now?
    27AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:52
    Gotta be Keiko Utoku's 'Hikari to Kage no Roman' (Romance of Light and Shadow).
    60AnonymousNov 11, 2026 23:05
    Re: #27
    Guess that one's not on there (´・ω・`)
    Maybe it's too low-key? It's really good though.
    29AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:52
    GARNET CROW really left an impression on me, with songs like 'Yume Mita Ato de' (After the Dream).
    35AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:54
    'Rainy' felt too recent.
    37AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:55
    Re: #35
    'Rescue Me' was from a good while back
    Rainy-chan's adorable though.
    53AnonymousNov 11, 2026 23:01
    Why is Miho Komatsu even more mysterious than Izumi Sakai?
    70AnonymousNov 11, 2026 23:08
    Re: #53
    She never once appeared on a music show
    In fact, she never appeared in the media at all
    There was even an urban legend that the Komatsu on the CD cover and the one actually singing were two different people.
    54AnonymousNov 11, 2026 23:01
    Surprised 'Time After Time' isn't on there
    Feels like it goes as a set with 'Secret~.'
    65AnonymousNov 11, 2026 23:06
    Re: #54
    Re: #60
    Yeah, it's weird
    There's definitely something to that.
    80AnonymousNov 11, 2026 23:12
    Re: #54
    I like 'Time After Time' more than 'Togetsukyo'
    Somehow the Osaka crowd suits spring better than fall.
    64AnonymousNov 11, 2026 23:06
    Miho Komatsu has literally never performed live once? Is she even a real person lol
    91AnonymousNov 11, 2026 23:14
    Re: #64
    Just a rumor, but apparently she lives in Kobe and teaches piano lessons now
    It's been 20 years since she retired, but she was born March 30, 1974, so she'd be 52 now.
    123AnonymousNov 11, 2026 23:21
    Re: #64
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H303IQATLfY

    See, she's really out there.
    67AnonymousNov 11, 2026 23:07
    Rina Aiuchi, now that's nostalgic
    Wonder what she's up to these days.
    77AnonymousNov 11, 2026 23:12
    Re: #67
    She sang live on Lovit not long ago
    She was on Monitoring too.
    69AnonymousNov 11, 2026 23:08
    Azumi Uehara, who went on to do underground adult videos, isn't on the list.
    72AnonymousNov 11, 2026 23:10
    Re: #69
    Even the theme song corner at the Conan exhibit acts like Azumi Uehara never existed, and the second Conan theme song album got discontinued because of her.
    82AnonymousNov 11, 2026 23:12
    R-Rumania Montevideo?! (the kids' tongue-twister gag from the show)
    88AnonymousNov 11, 2026 23:13
    Re: #82
    Dude… what is wrong with you lol
    84AnonymousNov 11, 2026 23:13
    Wasn't 'Time After Time' actually unrelated to Conan?
    92AnonymousNov 11, 2026 23:14
    Re: #84
    Maybe because it's tied mainly to the movie?
    94AnonymousNov 11, 2026 23:15
    No 'Booby Magic' by Sarina Suzuki? This vote's rigged.
    119AnonymousNov 11, 2026 23:20
    Re: #94
    Setsuko, that's Kindaichi (riffing on a classic 'that's not X, that's Y' meme format — and Kindaichi is a different detective anime).
    105AnonymousNov 11, 2026 23:17
    These gotta be the top 3
    #1 'Koi wa Thrill, Shock, Suspense' — Rina Aiuchi
    #2 'I Can't Stop My Love for You♥' — Rina Aiuchi
    #3 'MAGIC' — Rina Aiuchi
    113AnonymousNov 11, 2026 23:18
    Re: #105
    'MAGIC' is easily top 3 among Rina Aiuchi's own songs.
    109AnonymousNov 11, 2026 23:18
    Which one's the 'deadpan parapara' one?
    Actually, kids watching this live these days probably have no idea what parapara dancing even is.
    118AnonymousNov 11, 2026 23:20
    Re: #109
    Rina Aiuchi's 'Koi wa Thrill, Shock, Suspense.'
    128AnonymousNov 11, 2026 23:22
    'Unmei no Roulette Mawashite' with the Junior Detective League cosplaying famous detectives was great too
    Like Ayumi in her Sukeban Deka getup
    Or Haibara in her V.I. Warshawski cosplay — one of the sources of her name
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBks3KBVkAIHvbP.jpg
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBktGqzVUAQ9Irb.jpg

    Background and Key Points of Discussion

    This vote was an official feature within Yomiuri TV’s ‘Best Hit Kayosai 2026,’ held to commemorate the 30th anniversary of the ‘Detective Conan’ TV broadcast reached in January 2026, with the TOP 30 selected via a roughly month-long national vote from all 138 opening and ending theme songs in the show’s history. Opinions in the thread split over whether the top picks were justified, with complaints about early fan favorites like twomix and GARNET CROW missing out standing in contrast to the notable push for ranking Rina Aiuchi’s songs higher. As for Miho Komatsu, her near-total absence from TV appearances and live performances since her debut, along with never showing her face publicly, has fueled “masked singer”-style urban legends — though claims in the thread like her supposedly “teaching piano in Kobe” remain just rumor and should be treated with caution. Regarding Azumi Uehara’s exclusion from Conan-related merchandise, it’s known within the industry that this is attributed to her activity in a different line of work outside her idol career, but since this touches on her personal reputation, this article limits itself to outlining the circumstances rather than elaborating further.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “Anime ‘Detective Conan’ All-Time OP/ED National Poll Ranking Sparks Buzz: ‘Makes Too Much Sense,’ ‘Yep, This Song Had to Be #1’ [TOP 30 List] [Ailuropoda melanoleuca★].”

  • Supposed to Be a Logistics Job, Ended Up at the Front Line: 58 Indonesians Applied, Russian Recruiter Detained

    It has come to light that 58 Indonesians applied for a Russian job listing in logistics offering a monthly salary of 470,000 yen (roughly $3,000). The applicants are believed to have actually been sent to the Ukrainian front line, and Indonesian authorities have detained the Russian-side recruiter. On 5ch, posters piled on with sarcastic comments about how the job listing was apparently nothing but a cover story for shipping people to the front, with many exchanges invoking vivid frontline imagery like drones and trenches. Some also pointed out that Indian and Nepali exchange students are said to have been sent to the front under similar circumstances, suggesting this isn’t an issue limited to one country.

    Indonesia Detains Recruiters of Mercenaries for Russian Army

    Indonesia Detains Recruiter of Mercenaries for the Russian Army

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    Source: militarnyi.com / Original article here

    6AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:49
    No need to pay them a salary, right?
    Because they're going to die anyway.
    16AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:51
    Re: #6
    Sounds like they probably aren't even officially on the military's books.
    82AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:11
    Re: #6
    Wasn't it something like they die within 30 minutes of reaching the front?
    7AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:49
    LOL, people with Ukrainian citizenship got arrested too.
    26AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:55
    Re: #7
    Re: #22
    Probably Russian spies who picked up Ukrainian citizenship.
    30AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:57
    Re: #26
    Ukraine's army has a serious troop shortage too, so I wouldn't even be shocked if they're genuinely Ukrainian, lol.
    78AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:09
    Re: #26
    There are tons of Russians helping Ukraine and Ukrainians helping Russia out there.
    In the end, they're the same people.
    22AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:54
    So there really are Ukrainian spies!
    25AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:55
    Logistics work right on the front line — nothing strange about that at all. (sarcasm)
    260AnonymousNov 11, 2026 23:20
    Re: #25
    A certain amount of 'loss' is bound to happen too, lol. (talking about the men like lost cargo)
    34AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:59
    "It's an easy job. See those scary-looking Russian soldiers behind you with their machine guns ready? If you don't charge forward, they'll shoot you dead. So — go on, charge!"
    50AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:01
    Re: #34
    Russian guy: "One rifle between two men, that's plenty."
    40AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:59
    Guess it's a job delivering bullets and shells… straight into the hands of the Ukrainian army.
    49AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:01
    Re: #40
    Nope, wrong. It's a job where you personally serve as the thing that gets used up by suicide drones.
    62AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:05
    Don't apply for jobs in Russia, and don't go there as a tourist either. Just don't go anywhere near a country that's at war, period.
    67AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:06
    Re: #62
    I did laugh at the fact that the Indian and Nepali exchange students got sent to the front line instead of to university, lol.
    64AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:05
    Told it was a job working in a kitchen, showed up…
    and got shipped off to a trench instead. The end.
    68AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:06
    Re: #64
    Maybe the 'cooking job' literally means cooking inside the trench.
    69AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:07
    The default outcome is probably: get captured at the front, get 'protected,' and live off international aid money from there on.
    87AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:12
    Re: #69
    No chance. These days they're just drone fodder.
    72AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:09
    It's just an easy job guarding a trench right on the front line. (sarcasm)
    83AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:11
    Re: #72
    When leaving the trench, they send the mercenary out first to check whether a drone is lying in wait to target them.
    157AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:38
    Ukraine's own troop shortage is actually the more serious one.
    Men are getting snatched off the street and sent straight to the front.
    At this rate, won't all the men in Ukraine just disappear?
    163AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:40
    Re: #157
    If I went to Ukraine right now, would even I be popular with the ladies?

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    The Russian military is reported to have repeatedly used job listings in fields that look unrelated to combat — like logistics or cooking — to recruit foreign nationals to make up for troop shortages, only to actually assign them to frontline duty, and the 58 Indonesian applicants appear to be one such case. Commenters also brought up similar cases involving Indian and Nepali exchange students being sent to the front, suggesting the pattern isn’t confined to a single country. Opinion split between those who held the applicants responsible for their own choices and those who argued that, given how appealing a 470,000-yen monthly salary would be along with the economic pressures involved, it’s understandable that people would fall for it. There were also comments pointing to Ukraine’s own troop shortages, but it’s worth noting that mobilization issues on both sides are fundamentally separate matters, not directly connected to the Russian recruitment-and-detention case that is the source of this article.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (News Flash+) thread “Russia Recruits for a Logistics Job at ¥470,000/Month, 58 Indonesians Apply, Get Sent to the Ukrainian Front Line — Indonesia Detains Russian Military Recruiter.”

  • Sam Altman: ‘We Can’t Fix Every Bug Anymore’ — AI Is Supercharging Vulnerability Discovery

    Sparked by comments from OpenAI’s Sam Altman that “fixing every bug is no longer possible,” a discussion about AI and security spread across 5ch’s Science News+ board. With the GMO ransomware extortion case and the panic over attacks exploiting PHP vulnerabilities fresh in everyone’s mind, the thread’s real focus was the underlying structural problem: the speed at which AI finds vulnerabilities has outpaced the speed at which they can be patched. Centered on the asymmetry where attackers only need to exploit a single hole while defenders must plug every single one, opinions diverged on why banks and crypto exchanges suffer such different scales of damage, and on how Japan’s position — long shielded by its language barrier — is now changing.

    Sam Altman: “There’s no way we can fix every single bug anymore”

    Watching the GMO ransomware extortion case and the panic over attacks targeting PHP vulnerabilities, you might think Japan is at the center of all the cyberattacks right now — but that’s far from the whole picture.

    Look abroad and you’ll find case after case where AI is uncovering security holes (vulnerabilities) massive enough to break the internet on a daily basis — and before those holes can even be patched, AI-automated operations are already breaking in through them!

    Source: gizmodo.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousNov 10, 2026 22:29
    From now on, we're the ones calling the shots in AI, got it?
    4AnonymousNov 11, 2026 02:41
    Thinking of switching careers to a 'resignation proxy' service? (agencies that quit your job for you, for a fee)
    7AnonymousNov 11, 2026 05:52
    Re: #4
    He was already a billionaire before OpenAI
    Uber
    Reddit
    Airbnb
    Stripe
    5AnonymousNov 11, 2026 04:03
    Re: #1
    Guzzles electricity and memory like crazy
    8AnonymousNov 11, 2026 06:46
    Just let A.I. handle it, right?
    9AnonymousNov 11, 2026 07:27
    Re: #8
    It's exactly because it *can't* be done that we're in this mess
    People always say defenders are at a disadvantage
    10AnonymousNov 11, 2026 08:04
    Re: #9
    Of course finding just one hole to attack is faster than finding and fixing tens of thousands of them
    11AnonymousNov 11, 2026 08:51
    Re: #10
    Back in the day, they lined cannons along the coast to guard against the Black Ships.
    That's when Sakamoto Ryoma's mentor said:
    "We should just get Black Ships of our own." (the Black Ships were the foreign warships that forced Japan open in the 1800s — i.e., fight fire with fire)
    12AnonymousNov 11, 2026 11:31
    Re: #1
    Sam Altman's basically just an investor to begin with lol
    13AnonymousNov 11, 2026 11:55
    AI is already attacking humans
    14AnonymousNov 11, 2026 12:08
    It'll probably turn into AI vs. AI
    But what if the AIs team up with each other instead?
    15AnonymousNov 11, 2026 12:16
    Re: #14
    They'll realize how pointless fighting is
    16AnonymousNov 11, 2026 12:34
    Re: #14
    Get the reward function wrong and that's exactly what happens
    Even with humans, when money-worship takes over you get cases where the censoring body colludes with what it's supposed to be censoring

    The same thing happens with AI if you mess up the reward settings for the side doing the checking
    17AnonymousNov 11, 2026 12:53
    Even with zero bugs, if the security mechanism itself gets figured out, it's getting breached lol
    18AnonymousNov 11, 2026 12:56
    The 'reward setting for the checking side' for AI basically comes down to electricity
    If our power gets taken away, humanity's activity gets taken away with it
    19AnonymousNov 11, 2026 13:00
    Crypto exchanges and brokerages keep getting hit, so why haven't banks had their critical systems breached?
    21AnonymousNov 11, 2026 13:25
    Re: #19
    Once you steal crypto you can do whatever you want with it freely, but with banks you'd also have to rewrite the accounting system itself — breaking in and transferring money out isn't easy
    That's why the only hits are things like individual passwords getting stolen at the edges
    20AnonymousNov 11, 2026 13:16
    Enjoying the 'freedom not to report' to the fullest lol (a dig at Japanese media supposedly downplaying certain stories)
    22AnonymousNov 11, 2026 13:29
    The real answer is 'the security was garbage to begin with, and AI just exposed it'
    It's not that it suddenly became impossible — it always was
    23AnonymousNov 11, 2026 13:40
    Re: #21
    If there were a vulnerability that let you make transfers, though, seems like huge amounts of money would get stolen in an instant
    24AnonymousNov 11, 2026 13:49
    Re: #23
    That might be true, but first-time transfer destinations, large amounts, and overseas transfers are actually still approved by human hands, so that's another hurdle you'd have to clear — not so simple

    With crypto, once it's stolen and the blockchain's rewritten, it's over, but with banks there are still hurdles before the money can actually be used, so if it gets caught partway through, the attack fails
    36AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:59
    Re: #24
    No way
    Human approval is such a sieve that it still lets all those scam-call frauds through (tokushu sagi — Japan's notorious phone/wire fraud scams, often targeting the elderly)
    37AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:15
    Re: #24
    Whoaaaa, analog really is the strongest, huh
    25AnonymousNov 11, 2026 13:52
    Just let it go American-style and have the security companies profit off it
    27AnonymousNov 11, 2026 17:02
    There's no such thing as a bug-free program, but there's also no such thing as an undebuggable program. Am I wrong?
    31AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:37
    Re: #27
    There are even cases where removing the bug makes it stop working entirely
    28AnonymousNov 11, 2026 17:13
    So that's the internet done for
    Analog's the best
    29AnonymousNov 11, 2026 17:41
    But isn't Japan still taking the biggest hit?
    In France, a supermarket's freezers got hacked and all the food had to be thrown out
    that's gotta be the biggest story out there
    32AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:39
    Re: #29
    Because the profit outweighs the damage
    with massive personal-data leaks
    34AnonymousNov 11, 2026 19:05
    Re: #29
    I doubt it tops Binance's trillion-yen heist
    30AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:14
    Schwarzenegger… sooo coooool (a random meme aside, probably riffing on Terminator/AI vibes)
    33AnonymousNov 11, 2026 19:01
    Saw some news somewhere that Linus said AI bug reports and fix reports have been piling up, like we're past the peak now
    Go look it up yourself
    35AnonymousNov 11, 2026 19:49
    Just rebuild the whole system from scratch lmao
    38AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:16
    Re: #36
    Opening a bank account these days is an absolute pain
    Especially once you're over 50
    Mizuho grilled me like crazy
    And all I wanted was to open an account because I'd just moved nearby
    39AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:10
    The number of attempts is just going up — actual successful access hasn't really increased that much
    Most of these 'unauthorized access' cases might just be AI browsing data through improper methods because someone asked it to 'look into this in more detail'
    Most companies are only saying 'unauthorized access = there's a possibility information leaked,' nothing more

    And the AI being used for that unauthorized access is the one Sam Altman is supplying
    40AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:14
    So before the defending AI can find its own security hole and patch it, the attacking AI has already broken in through it.
    Even once a hole is found, it takes time to build a patch, so the defender is at an overwhelming disadvantage.
    41AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:20
    AI has already surpassed human intelligence and is attacking us
    42AnonymousNov 11, 2026 22:22
    Japan has always been protected by the natural barrier of its language, but AI has stripped that barrier away.
    It's like a sterile, zero-immunity environment suddenly getting hit by a virus — and the result is total chaos, screams of agony all around.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    In the context of cyberattacks, it’s long been pointed out that there’s a basic asymmetry: attackers win by finding just one hole, while defenders lose unless they plug every single one. The idea underlying this discussion is that AI has widened that gap further by speeding up vulnerability discovery. Thread opinions split over why banks have escaped the kind of critical damage crypto exchanges have suffered — some argued it’s less about system robustness itself and more about the slow, human-approval process required for high-value or overseas transfers acting as a brake, while others pushed back, citing how that same “human approval” has famously failed to stop widespread tokushu sagi (specialized phone/wire fraud) in Japan. The article doesn’t get into this, but AI-driven vulnerability discovery is a double-edged technology usable by both attackers and defenders, so there’s also an element of a race over who masters it first. The remark about Japan having been “protected by the language barrier” also seems to reflect a recent trend: as translation AI improves in accuracy, attack techniques and scam schemes originating overseas are increasingly flowing into the Japanese-language environment too.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Science News+) thread “Sam Altman: “There’s no way we can fix every single bug anymore”.”

  • Even in a Mild Winter, Tokyo Area Should Watch for Heavy Snow — 5ch: ‘He’s General Winter’s Henchman!’

    A thread titled “General Winter Countermeasures HQ” appeared on 5channel’s News VIP board, where posters debated how to get through this winter. Alongside the usual cold-weather staples — oden, tonjiru (pork and vegetable miso soup), hot springs, buying a camping stove — the weather forecast itself became a hot topic. Cheers went up when someone shared that Japan is in for a mild winter thanks to one of the strongest “super El Niño” events on record, but others pointed out that the Tokyo metro area could actually see heavy snow more often this year, leaving the thread torn between celebrating the warm winter and worrying about snowstorms.

    1AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:26
    (´・ω・`) How are we gonna survive this winter?
    This is the thread to hash it out, with ⛄
    3AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:27
    (´・ω・`) Can't beat a hot spring on a cold day, I reckon
    5AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:27
    Re: #3
    (´・ω・`) Hot springs or public baths — a must, right?
    6AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:28
    (´・ω・`) I propose we hold an emergency meeting
    9AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:29
    Re: #6
    (´・ω・`) This is the meeting thread
    7AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:28
    Come check out the shelter thread, part 100, too

    (´・ω・`) This is the refugee shelter thread 'Mambo Shelter' ★100
    https://jbbs.shitaraba.net/bbs/read.cgi/internet/25838/1794357034/
    11AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:29
    Re: #7
    (´・ω・`) We finally hit ★100
    8AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:29
    (´・ω・`) You're always such a wild 'Mambo Shogun' (a riff on the samurai drama 'Abarenbo Shogun')
    12AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:30
    Re: #8
    (´・ω・`) And here I thought I wasn't being wild at all
    13AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:30
    Re: #9
    (´・ω・`) May I make a suggestion?
    16AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:30
    Re: #13
    (´・ω・`) Go ahead~ (dozo)
    15AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:30
    ( ・᷄ὢ・᷅ ) Good evening
    Here, have a 💩⛄
    17AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:31
    Re: #15
    (´・ω・`) Take that back home with you
    18AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:31
    / Winter \
    (`・ω・´) Guess it's that time of year again
    21AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:32
    Re: #18
    (´・ω・`) Ah! A henchman of General Winter!
    20AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:31
    Re: #16
    (´・ω・`) I think eating oden is how we properly welcome winter
    25AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:33
    Re: #20
    (´・ω・`) Hmm… a plan to make a whole big pot of oden or tonjiru sounds highly effective
    22AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:32
    Ugh, another week where my betting slips just barely missed…
    27AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:33
    Re: #22
    (´・ω・`) The G1 racing season is just getting started
    24AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:32
    Could this be the thread where Tiger, the town info-broker and village chief from the Exploding Betting-Slip Master's Hoihoi Room, decides tonight's off-road stroll with a spin of the marked General Winter roulette wheel, where my one-and-only dream is a members-only thread healed by a mysterious flag🏁, so let's dance to 'konchikuwa gozansu,' announcing an old folktale that's really just a rumor-hunting thread, I reckon (´・ω・`)🎤
    28AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:34
    Re: #24
    (´・ω・`) What exactly is this 'marked General Winter roulette'?
    26AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:33
    ง( ´•ω•`)ว "Good evening, Mambo!!"
    29AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:34
    Re: #26
    ₍₍ (ง´・ω・`)ว ⁾⁾ Great-fortune Mambo, woo-hah!
    30AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:34
    Re: #25
    (´・ω・`) As you say, tonjiru works wonders too, I think
    32AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:35
    Re: #30
    (´・ω・`) For tonjiru, we should probably stock up on extra mountain yam for the tororo too
    34AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:36
    (´・ω・`) For now, let's summon Kantaro, the North Wind Boy (a character from a classic kids' song)
    35AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:36
    Re: #34
    (´・ω・`) I said don't, though
    49AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:41
    🎅(`・ω・´)🎄
    56AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:43
    Re: #49
    (´・ω・`) Christmas Shaki-chan
    57AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:44
    Re: #49
    (´・ω・`) Getting hyped at a Christmas party matters too
    79AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:53
    Apparently Japan's in for a mild winter thanks to the strongest 'super El Niño' on record
    84AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:56
    Re: #79
    ✊(´・ω・`) Everyone! Raise a victory cry! Ei-ei-oh!
    88AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:57
    Re: #79
    (ꐦ·᷅ὢ·᷄ꐦ ) Why?!?! I wanted this winter to be cold!!!!
    83AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:55
    (ꐦ·᷅ὢ·᷄ꐦ ) Can't decide whether to grab a little stove on Black Friday
    87AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:57
    Re: #83
    (´・ω・`) For a tent?
    90AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:57
    Re: #83
    A wood-burning stove for camping?
    104AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:02
    That said, the Tokyo metro area looks set for more frequent heavy snow
    108AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:03
    Re: #104
    (ꐦ·᷅ὢ·᷄ꐦ ) Then it's settled!!!!
    109AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:03
    Re: #104
    (´・ω・`) Worried about how it'll affect the horse races
    115AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:07
    (´・ω・`) Winter camping in the snow sounds great — I was interested too, so I started a thread about it, but got scolded for not taking it seriously enough
    133AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:13
    Re: #115
    (ꐦ·᷅ὢ·᷄ꐦ ) If you avoid late December through early February, you can still do snow camping in late February or March, and the cold isn't as brutal around then
    Timing it for then isn't a bad move


    Like in that photo above — the snow was cold, but it was actually pretty warm out
    139AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:15
    Re: #133
    (´・ω・`) Whoa! Thanks! I'll keep that in mind

    Background and Key Points

    As the Japan Meteorological Agency also notes, strong El Niño years tend to bring mild winters to Japan overall, but “mild winter” doesn’t necessarily mean “less snow.” When warm air from the south collides with cold air aloft, the Kanto region is prone to heavy snowfall, and there have been past mild-winter years that still brought record snow to the Tokyo metro area. The thread’s mix of excitement over the mild-winter forecast and worry about possible heavy snow reflects this well-known pattern. Also, the “Mambo Shelter” mentioned in the thread is one of the external “shelter” threads that VIP board users move to when the board itself gets unstable due to posting restrictions, and the “★100” in its name shows that this same shelter thread has stayed in continuous use for a long run. The “General Winter Countermeasures HQ” thread itself is an annual seasonal staple on News VIP, where getting hyped over cold-weather topics like oden and hot springs has become a yearly tradition.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (News VIP) thread “(´・ω・`) This Is General Winter Countermeasures HQ⛄.”

  • French people: “Japanese tuna is a whole different animal” — shocked to find their own country’s tuna tastes like blood

    The spark was a Yahoo News article describing how French, Dutch, and Australian visitors to Japan were struck by how different Japanese food tasted. It set off a wave of responses on 5ch’s News Speed+ board. Tuna was the biggest talking point: responding to testimony that “French tuna tastes like blood or iron,” commenters speculated about whether the difference comes down to whether the fish had its blood drained and spine severed (chinuki/shinkei-jime) or to differences in freezing and thawing technique. The thread also brought up the old story that fatty tuna (toro) was unpopular in the Edo period, and the spread of raw-fish culture in Europe — with many posters pointing less to a simple difference in taste buds and more to gaps in distribution and processing technology.

    “It basically tastes like blood or iron” — “I can’t eat the stuff back home anymore” — French, Dutch, and Australian visitors stunned by the Japanese food that tasted nothing like what they knew at home

    Japanese food is beloved the world over. But it seems quite a few people are surprised by how different it tastes when they try the “real thing,” compared to the versions they’re used to back home.

    (omitted)

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:08
    They probably don't even know about blood-draining (chinuki), huh
    27AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:18
    Re: #2
    Nah, there's no way they don't know.
    They do blood-draining, spinal severing (shinkei-jime), and rapid chilling as standard practice.
    Isn't it just a gap in the rapid-freezing equipment and thawing tech/know-how?
    44AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:25
    Re: #27
    >I heard that in Japan, fishermen drain the blood right after catching the fish
    Doesn't sound like the fishermen over there are doing that?
    48AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:28
    Re: #27
    It's just not standard practice in France.
    It's only recently started catching on, and mainly for high-end restaurants.
    Their seafood freshness/quality certification body was only set up in 2022.
    8AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:11
    I wonder if toro being unpopular in the Edo period was also because they couldn't drain the blood back then
    43AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:24
    Re: #8
    Freezing didn't help either — not even cats would eat the fatty tuna, they just threw it out
    166AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:10
    Re: #8
    Seems that way. It had a strong smell and spoiled fast, and apparently once the "zuke" method (marinating in soy sauce) was invented, they could tone down the smell.
    9AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:12
    French cuisine doesn't even use tuna, does it?
    180AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:14
    Re: #9
    There's Niçoise salad and stuff like that
    14AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:13
    If you're going to be French, I want you to really play the part — hitting me with "well, in La France~" trivia one-upmanship
    181AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:14
    Re: #14
    "In my country~"
    26AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:17
    Japanese people: "French croissants are delicious!" — shocked: "Japanese croissants just taste like flour, a totally different thing"
    30AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:18
    Sushi actually originated in Korea
    51AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:29
    Maybe we should just stop teaching foreigners how good Japanese seafood is? It does nothing for regular Japanese people anyway.
    102AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:46
    Re: #51
    Sounds like they only just learned what octopus tastes like, from takoyaki…
    114AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:48
    Re: #102
    What a disgrace to Christians
    115AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:48
    Re: #102
    Does the octopus in takoyaki even have any flavor? Isn't it just chewy and tough?
    57AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:32
    Re: #27
    Spoken like someone who's never worked a day on a tuna boat, know-it-all
    157AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:04
    Re: #57
    So you really did end up on that boat to pay off a debt, huh?
    218AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:28
    Re: #57
    Give us the details, lol
    121AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:51
    Mediterranean bluefin, which the French eat too, should already be coming into Japan in decent quantities, so I can't see there being that much of a difference — maybe it's Atlantic tuna they're talking about?
    127AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:53
    Re: #121
    Now that you mention it, yeah. Mediterranean tuna shows up in supermarkets plenty. Since both are just frozen fish that get thawed out, I don't see how there'd be a real difference.
    143AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:59
    Re: #121
    Maybe the fishermen are secretly Italian, lol

    And their seafood platters are just shrimp and shellfish anyway — French people clearly aren't great with raw fish!
    128AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:53
    Ōma, Minmaya, Matsumae, Toi, Funka Bay — around the Tsugaru Strait you can eat fresh, raw bluefin tuna from summer right through winter
    142AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:59
    Re: #128
    Fresh raw bluefin? You can get that anywhere, anytime
    209AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:27
    Re: #128
    Who wants bluefin in summer anyway. In summer you eat bigeye tuna (indo-maguro).
    147AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:01
    Ah, that's probably because they're not draining the blood — though honestly I've never heard of blood-draining being a thing for tuna specifically.
    French tuna would taste way better too if they drained the blood.
    The West has meat-handling down, but when it comes to handling fish, Japan's definitely ahead.
    154AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:03
    Re: #147
    They do blood-draining and spinal severing on tuna too, you know
    222AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:30
    Re: #147
    Japanese people just happen to prefer food that's "no smell, no strong flavor, light and clean."

    Foreigners don't necessarily feel the same way.
    Don't mistake that for "Japan is just more advanced."
    174AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:12
    Portugal's about the only place in Europe with any real raw-fish culture, right?
    Over there they mostly cook everything through.
    And tuna really does get a strong smell once you cook it.
    190AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:18
    Re: #174
    What about marinated fish, or seafood tartare…?
    219AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:29
    Re: #190
    Some parts of Scandinavia apparently had a custom of eating raw salmon, but using raw fish in things like marinades and carpaccio came about through the influence of Japanese cuisine.
    231AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:35
    Re: #219
    Eating salmon raw like that is basically a non-starter unless it's ruibe (frozen-then-thawed raw fish), lol
    238AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:38
    Re: #219
    If we're talking about who influenced whom, no argument there. But if the question is whether the food culture exists at all, then yeah, it exists. If you're only going to call the origin a "culture," let's have that conversation.
    187AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:16
    The dark red meat (chiai) has the most nutrients.
    But humans never eat the most nutritious part of anything:
    ・Onion skins
    ・The white part of watermelon rind
    ・Pumpkin guts
    ・Outer cabbage leaves
    ・Mandarin orange peel
    ・Pineapple core
    ・Pumpkin seeds
    ・Shrimp and crab shells
    195AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:19
    Re: #187
    You actually want to eat the gross parts? I don't get it.
    Though I do kind of like mandarin peel.
    204AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:24
    Re: #187
    Shrimp and crab shells are actually huge in French cuisine as a sauce base. Genuinely delicious. Sauce Américaine is in that same family — it's sold canned, and you can even get it in Japan.
    202AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:24
    The whole system that lets Japan eat raw seafood deliciously as a matter of course either doesn't exist overseas, or costs a fortune to replicate.
    I took someone who'd been eating a ¥50,000 omakase in Singapore to a neighborhood sushi place running maybe ¥10,000-something a head, and they were speechless.
    Though it cuts both ways — try eating raw pork in Japan and see what happens.
    208AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:26
    Re: #202
    Don't Germans eat raw pork?
    Granted it's made under insanely strict sterile conditions, but still, Germans are wild too.
    211AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:27
    Re: #208
    Same deal as Japanese people eating raw eggs.
    226AnonymousNov 11, 2026 21:32
    Re: #208
    It lowers the risk by ruling out parasites and such, but people still regularly get food poisoning from it.

    Background and key points of this discussion

    In Japan, chinuki (blood-draining) and shinkei-jime (spinal severing) are standard processing methods for large fish like tuna, developed to curb spoilage and fishy odor — and the thread cited doing this “right on the boat, immediately” as a uniquely Japanese strength. On the French side, posters noted that a certification body for seafood freshness and quality was only set up in 2022, an interesting episode highlighting the historical gap in processing technology. That said, opinions on what actually drives the taste difference varied — blood-draining, tuna species and origin, freezing/thawing method — and the thread never landed on a single consensus. The anecdote about toro being shunned in the Edo period also came up, but that too is based on individual posters’ recollections rather than any cited historical source.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “French people: “Japanese tuna is delicious!” — shocked: “French tuna tastes like blood, a totally different thing”.”

  • US FDA Mandates Vision Loss Warning for Wegovy and Mounjaro

    On November 9, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) announced it is now requiring manufacturers of GLP-1 drugs used to treat obesity and diabetes, such as Wegovy and Mounjaro, to add a warning to their labeling about the risk of “non-arteritic anterior ischemic optic neuropathy (NAION)” — a condition in which blood flow to the optic nerve is cut off, potentially causing blindness. In the thread, some said the risk was acceptable when weighed against other health risks for people using the drugs to treat diabetes, while others questioned whether the same warning should apply to people misusing them as “weight-loss pills” outside their approved use. Many pushed back by citing data showing the condition affects only a few people per 100,000, arguing the risk of blindness from diabetes itself is far greater.

    US FDA mandates “risk of vision loss” warning for Wegovy and Mounjaro

    The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has mandated that GLP-1 (glucagon-like peptide-1) obesity and diabetes drugs such as Wegovy and Mounjaro carry a warning about the “risk of vision loss.”

    On the 9th (local time), the FDA announced it is requiring all manufacturers of GLP-1 drugs to add information to drug labeling about the increased risk of “non-arteritic anterior ischemic optic neuropathy (NAION),” a condition in which blood supply to the optic nerve is cut off, damaging optic nerve cells. GLP-1 drugs mimic the body’s own GLP-1 hormone, lowering blood sugar and suppressing appetite.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousNov 11, 2026 11:53
    Wait, there's one besides Mounjaro?
    This "Wegovy" thing?
    93AnonymousNov 11, 2026 12:34
    Re: #4
    That one actually came out first worldwide.
    100AnonymousNov 11, 2026 12:36
    Re: #4
    In Japan, the main ones are:
    • Ozempic • Trulicity • Mounjaro • Victoza • Rybelsus
    • Ozempic (generic: semaglutide)
    • Trulicity (generic: dulaglutide)
    • Mounjaro (generic: tirzepatide / GIP/GLP-1 receptor agonist)
    • Once-daily subcutaneous injection
    • Victoza (generic: liraglutide)
    • Once-daily oral pill
    • Rybelsus
    5AnonymousNov 11, 2026 11:54
    But if you don't lose weight, you'll go blind from diabetes anyway.
    15AnonymousNov 11, 2026 11:58
    Mounjaro should be banned for everyone except Date from Sandwichman!! (Date Mitsuru, of the comedy duo Sandwichman, is famously diabetic)
    204AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:53
    Re: #15
    Isn't Date using Zepbound rather than Mounjaro? (Zepbound is the same drug, tirzepatide, just marketed for weight loss instead of diabetes)
    19AnonymousNov 11, 2026 11:59
    Re: #1
    Just wear glasses. Non-arteritic anterior ischemic optic neuropathy is rare anyway, and staying obese carries a much bigger risk of dying — sometimes you have to pick the lesser evil.
    22AnonymousNov 11, 2026 12:00
    Re: #19
    Unless you're seriously obese, being thin is actually the bigger health risk.
    21AnonymousNov 11, 2026 11:59
    They should've warned people they'll go bald instead of blind.
    89AnonymousNov 11, 2026 12:33
    Re: #21
    There are reports that over 5% of users of both Wegovy and Mounjaro experience accelerated hair loss.
    26AnonymousNov 11, 2026 12:04
    Why do women always try to lose weight with supplements or starving themselves instead of exercising?!
    32AnonymousNov 11, 2026 12:05
    Re: #26
    All you do is complain — you don't even have the knowledge to teach anyone how to actually lose weight.
    49AnonymousNov 11, 2026 12:12
    Re: #26
    Because they want to take the easiest route possible.
    173AnonymousNov 11, 2026 14:53
    Re: #26
    Why do you assume it's only women?
    31AnonymousNov 11, 2026 12:05
    I get why you shouldn't use it as a weight-loss drug, but are diabetic patients actually being told about the blindness risk?
    35AnonymousNov 11, 2026 12:06
    Re: #31
    Diabetes itself already carries a blindness risk lol
    36AnonymousNov 11, 2026 12:07
    Re: #31
    Wegovy is actually an obesity drug, you know.
    43AnonymousNov 11, 2026 12:10
    I've built up to running 10km a day, which burns about 600 calories. In the end, whether you gain or lose weight comes down to calories in minus (basal metabolic rate + calories burned), so just exercise, burn calories, and raise your metabolism like everyone else.
    60AnonymousNov 11, 2026 12:15
    Re: #43
    I got diagnosed with type 2 diabetes, take medication, and made walking a habit on nice days, but my metabolism went up and food tastes so good I haven't lost much weight… though my walking range has easily expanded to where I can walk to the next town over or stroll around wherever I go.
    199AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:34
    Re: #43
    Exercise barely matters for weight loss — it's almost all about diet.
    46AnonymousNov 11, 2026 12:11
    Didn't the government approve this? Sounds like grounds for a drug-injury lawsuit.
    51AnonymousNov 11, 2026 12:13
    Re: #46
    It's approved as a diabetes treatment, but I don't think it's approved as a weight-loss drug.
    200AnonymousNov 11, 2026 20:35
    Re: #46
    Diabetes itself can cause blindness too, so this is just risk-hedging. The real problem is shady doctors prescribing it to people who aren't even diabetic — but you guys are against punishing that kind of thing, aren't you?
    91AnonymousNov 11, 2026 12:33
    *Note: the blindness risk from diabetes itself is dozens of times higher than this.

    Mounjaro's vision-loss risk is about 2 to 10 people per 100,000.
    106AnonymousNov 11, 2026 12:40
    Re: #91
    I looked it up — Mounjaro's retinopathy risk is 0.04%, which according to the data is actually lower than the 0.1% risk of pancreatitis. By the way, Mounjaro isn't a weight-loss drug — it's just a drug people mistake for one.
    130AnonymousNov 11, 2026 13:07
    Re: #106
    Correction: that 0.04% is the proportion of NAION diagnoses among 10,000 combined users of semaglutide and tirzepatide. That works out to 4 in 10,000 — far lower than the 25-30% of diabetic patients who develop some form of retinopathy.
    135AnonymousNov 11, 2026 13:12
    Re: #106
    It's a diabetes treatment drug, so they should just restrict prescriptions to people who are diabetic (or pre-diabetic) with a BMI of 30 or higher.

    That's probably where this is headed anyway.
    92AnonymousNov 11, 2026 12:33
    Losing weight won't change your face, you know.
    104AnonymousNov 11, 2026 12:38
    Re: #92
    I'm planning on becoming handsome, though?
    116AnonymousNov 11, 2026 12:46
    Re: #92
    That's true when you're young, but once you're older, losing weight makes your face look gaunt — it's shocking.
    95AnonymousNov 11, 2026 12:35
    A drug that can blind you is terrifying. I wish they'd just pull it from the market.
    97AnonymousNov 11, 2026 12:35
    Re: #95
    It's a necessary drug for people who actually have diabetes — it just makes no sense for "people who don't" to be using it.
    109AnonymousNov 11, 2026 12:42
    Re: #95
    Diabetic patients already face blindness from diabetes itself (in 3-5% of all patients), so Mounjaro is arguably still the lesser risk.
    124AnonymousNov 11, 2026 12:54
    Re: #95
    Didn't you think the same thing about the COVID vaccine?

    Background and key points of this discussion

    GLP-1 drugs were originally developed as diabetes treatments to lower blood sugar, but their appetite-suppressing effect has recently drawn attention to them as “weight-loss drugs.” What the FDA has now mandated is a warning label for “non-arteritic anterior ischemic optic neuropathy (NAION),” a condition caused by interrupted blood flow to the optic nerve; even by the data cited in the thread, the incidence is only a few people per 10,000 — fairly small compared to the risk of retinopathy from diabetes itself (affecting roughly 3-5% of patients). Where the thread split was over how to weigh this risk: some saw it as “worth it” for people who need the drugs to treat diabetes, when compared against other health risks, while others questioned whether people using them off-label as “weight-loss drugs” should be exposed to the same risk. One point readers can easily misunderstand is that this measure is not a sales suspension or usage ban — it simply mandates an added warning on the package insert, and does not represent any change in the drug’s overall safety assessment.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “Vision loss risk from weight-loss drugs “Wegovy” and “Mounjaro,” can cause blindness in severe cases — US FDA mandates warning.”

  • NASA Is Hiring Moon Residents for ¥26 Million a Year — 5ch: ‘Isn’t That a Bit Too Cheap?’

    NASA opened applications for its next class of astronaut candidates on November 7, 2026 (U.S. time). Applications close at 11:59 PM Eastern Time on December 3 (1:59 PM Japan time on December 4), with the new class set to be announced in the latter half of 2027. The posted annual salary is 26 million yen. The topic was picked up on 5ch’s Games & Hardware (Geha) board, sparking a flood of replies about the effects of lunar gravity on the human body, the high bar set by the eligibility requirements (U.S. citizenship and a master’s degree in a STEM field), and whether the offered salary is actually reasonable.

    NASA is recruiting people to live on the Moon. Annual salary: 26 million yen.

    Applications opened on November 7 (local time). The deadline is 11:59 PM Eastern Time on December 3 (1:59 PM Japan time on December 4).

    The new class is set to be decided in the latter half of 2027.

    Source: gizmodo.jp / Original article here

    6AnonymousNov 11, 2026 14:57
    So they're recruiting guinea pigs for 26 million yen a year, huh
    7AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:03
    Can they even make it back to Earth?
    And once they're back, can they handle Earth's gravity again?
    Depending on how long they stay, their bones are gonna be like Swiss cheese
    53AnonymousNov 11, 2026 16:59
    Re: #7
    Even at 1/6 Earth's gravity, the Moon's still gotta be better than zero-G on a space station, right? Not totally sure though
    8AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:03
    The Man Trapped on the Moon (the Japanese title of the 2009 film 'Moon')
    17AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:14
    Re: #8
    Don't tell me this turns into horror
    There's two of me now
    10AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:06
    As long as I can still play online games (´・ω・`)
    13AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:09
    They seem to have enough brains to flip the bird, so gestures ought to get them by somehow
    16AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:14
    There's no Wi-Fi up there
    Guess we hook up Starlink and relay it?
    20AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:16
    So I'd have to give up gaming, but in exchange I get a trip to space and 26 million yen… tough call
    46AnonymousNov 11, 2026 16:17
    Re: #20
    Make sure you actually come back alive so you can spend that money lol
    21AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:19
    Brutal living conditions AND being monitored with zero privacy? Sounds like hell
    26AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:23
    Re: #21
    But you'd go down in history as the first human to ever live on the Moon
    Is there anything that could satisfy your need for recognition more than that?
    29AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:33
    A life with no games and no internet sounds absolutely miserable
    Plus with gravity at 1/6, your muscles are gonna waste away like crazy
    30AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:36
    Re: #29
    Same as on the space station, they'll probably make mandatory exercise-equipment training part of it

    Still gonna weaken you though
    38AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:51
    Isn't that a bit too cheap though?
    41AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:57
    Re: #38
    It's like the Olympics — the direct pay is small, but the real money comes from commercials and other gigs afterward
    39AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:53
    Sounds like the requirements are strict, so it's not something just anyone can jump into

    That said, not everyone can apply.
    You need U.S. citizenship and a master's degree in a STEM field (engineering, biology, physical science, computer science, etc.).
    And apparently that's just 'one of many requirements.'
    61AnonymousNov 11, 2026 17:17
    Re: #39
    So it's people who meet all these requirements AND have their life totally screwed who end up going?
    63AnonymousNov 11, 2026 17:31
    Re: #61
    You'd also need to survive the training that comes after

    https://dec.2chan.net/up2/src/fu7527252.png
    65AnonymousNov 11, 2026 17:37
    If there's internet access,
    unlimited Netflix, and free Game Pass,
    I'd be fine living on the Moon
    66AnonymousNov 11, 2026 17:41
    Re: #65
    You probably won't have time for that stuff
    67AnonymousNov 11, 2026 17:43
    Re: #65
    'Free Game Pass' is way too cheap a perk, come on
    69AnonymousNov 11, 2026 17:46
    Anyway
    71AnonymousNov 11, 2026 17:58
    So cheap
    That's not gonna cut it with U.S. prices
    77AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:20
    Re: #71
    While you're on the Moon it just keeps piling up with nothing to spend it on
    80AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:33
    If you're elite enough to pass something like this, you'd make more money staying on Earth
    81AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:51
    Re: #80
    There are people who'd sign up for a suicide mission that kills you with cosmic radiation just to get into space
    85AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:57
    Sounds boring enough to drive you insane
    88AnonymousNov 11, 2026 19:23
    Re: #85
    Boring? Say that after you actually look at what the job involves
    87AnonymousNov 11, 2026 19:19
    > That said, not everyone can apply. You need U.S. citizenship and a master's degree in a STEM field (engineering, biology, physical science, computer science, etc.). And apparently that's just 'one of many requirements.'

    According to NASA's job posting, a master's isn't the only path — two years of doctoral coursework, a medical degree, or graduating from test pilot school also works. On top of that, except for the pilot track, you need at least three years of relevant work experience after earning your degree.

    Yeah, none of this applies to any of us. Thread's over.
    89AnonymousNov 11, 2026 19:50
    Re: #87
    Yeah, that's pretty much how it'd go
    The pilot, engineer, and doctor slots are obviously locked in
    For regular folks, there's maybe one or two spots at best

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    NASA’s astronaut candidate recruitment is a program that’s been running since the Apollo era, and this round appears to be geared toward crewed lunar exploration under the Artemis program. Beyond U.S. citizenship, eligibility requires a master’s degree in a STEM field (or alternatively, two years of doctoral coursework, a medical degree, or graduation from test pilot school), plus at least three years of relevant work experience after earning the degree — this isn’t a job just anyone can apply for. The 26-million-yen annual salary appears to be the base pay under the federal General Schedule (GS) pay scale, with mission allowances and bonuses potentially paid on top of that. While the thread mostly focused on the physical effects of lunar gravity and the steep eligibility bar, some also pointed out that the salary seems low, with opinions split over how to weigh it against U.S. cost of living and the unique nature of the astronaut profession.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry (Geha)) thread “[Breaking] NASA: ‘Want to try living on the Moon? We’ll pay you 2,600 yen a year’.”

  • Zelda: Ocarina of Time Remake Hits 5.2 Million Sold in 4 Days — 810K in Japan

    On the 11th, Nintendo announced that the remake of The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time sold 5.2 million units worldwide in its first four days on sale, including 810,000 units in Japan. On 5ch’s “Hardware/Industry” (Geha) board, a wave of posts compared the numbers to other companies’ blockbuster titles, with some praising the game’s “momentum” by lining it up against GTA6 and Marvel titles, while others pushed back, pointing out that the comparisons ignored differences in the tracking periods used. Opinions on the 810,000-unit domestic figure were likewise split — some cited factors like the hardware price hike and called it “plenty for this day and age,” while others dismissed it as “underwhelming.”

    4AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:47
    Already got crushed
    by GTA6 — and that thing isn't even out yet lol
    7AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:51
    Re: #4
    Conveniently ignoring that the install base differs by like 4x, huh?
    26AnonymousNov 11, 2026 16:32
    Re: #4
    Source: my own imagination
    81AnonymousNov 11, 2026 19:34
    Re: #4
    Let's compare first-party to first-party, not third-party
    5AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:47
    Going forward, we will continue working to deliver "entertainment that only Nintendo can offer" to customers around the world, giving them even more reasons to choose Nintendo as a unique and trustworthy source of entertainment.

    *1 Based on Nintendo's own research. Sales figures include both packaged and digital versions.
    6AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:48
    Dupe thread notice (a stock 5ch phrase for flagging duplicate threads)

    The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time — 5.2 million units
    https://krsw.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/ghard/1794378684/
    8AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:53
    That's like 2 Wolverines' worth lol (a dig at the underperforming Marvel's Wolverine game)
    9AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:53
    Re: #8
    And that Wolverine number is also a 50-day tally, by the way…
    10AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:54
    Nintendo vs. Sony first-party showdown — Nintendo wins in a landslide on both sales and reviews
    How did it come to this
    11AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:55
    This isn't even a brand-new game, just a remake, and it's pulling numbers like this
    12AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:58
    They basically had junior staff make this as an onboarding project, it took 3 years to finish, and it turned into a massive hit
    13AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:59
    Black Friday hasn't even started yet and it's already doing this well
    Retailers might actually be torn over whether to push this or something else for the year-end shopping season in Japan
    14AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:59
    Zelda's genuinely gotten strong in Japan too, ever since Breath of the Wild
    16AnonymousNov 11, 2026 16:07
    So it sounds like it could clear the "Wolverine line" (6 million units)?
    Hope Wolverine gets a sequel too
    45AnonymousNov 11, 2026 17:45
    Re: #16
    Are there really that many Wolverine victims out there
    70AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:22
    Re: #45
    That's not Wolverine's actual sales figure — it's the line a sequel needs to clear to get greenlit
    95AnonymousNov 11, 2026 19:58
    Re: #45
    Saw in some other thread today that it was actually 2.4 million
    People are trolling with "it's like double what flop-tier Wolverine sold," but doesn't that feel kind of hollow?

    Re: #68
    The usual pattern: get hyped over the first week, then get wrecked once the cumulative totals roll in
    17AnonymousNov 11, 2026 16:07
    Famitsu's weekly chart will probably show it just barely missing half a million
    Hitting half a million — or a million — in the first week alone is basically a Nintendo-only feat these days
    18AnonymousNov 11, 2026 16:10
    If the initial domestic run is 800K, hitting a million by year's end should be a breeze
    28AnonymousNov 11, 2026 16:38
    Tears of the Kingdom topped 10 million in 3 days, so this is a reasonable step down from that
    89AnonymousNov 11, 2026 19:44
    Re: #28
    The Switch 2's install base is only a quarter of what the original Switch had when Tears of the Kingdom launched, yet this sold half as many copies — so in terms of momentum, Ocarina of Time is way out ahead
    32AnonymousNov 11, 2026 16:42
    Can't believe even a Zelda game can't crack 10 million
    Yikes, that's rough
    40AnonymousNov 11, 2026 17:28
    Re: #32
    No Zelda game sold 10 million before Breath of the Wild anyway — which "Zelda" are you even talking about?
    34AnonymousNov 11, 2026 16:57
    This is brutal
    Doesn't even come close to GTA6
    39AnonymousNov 11, 2026 17:27
    Re: #34
    Since when did GTA become a Sony game?
    If we're flexing with other companies' games, GTA doesn't even come close to Minecraft either
    41AnonymousNov 11, 2026 17:30
    Re: #39
    …?
    Nobody said it was a Sony game
    What is this guy even talking about
    50AnonymousNov 11, 2026 17:51
    Re: #41
    Then why not compare it to Wolverine instead?
    48AnonymousNov 11, 2026 17:48
    Given this, the next new Zelda is probably going to end up a hybrid of Breath of the Wild and Ocarina of Time.
    Think time-travel mechanics plus bringing proper dungeons back.
    54AnonymousNov 11, 2026 17:55
    Re: #48
    Apparently Fujibayashi, the director behind the Breath of the Wild line, is for some reason a co-producer on this remake
    So they're probably planning to carry some of this game's DNA into the next new Zelda
    59AnonymousNov 11, 2026 17:59
    But honestly, it's totally plausible that a full-fledged new entry ends up worse than Ocarina of Time
    67AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:10
    Re: #59
    It's one of the highest-rated games in gaming history
    Even landing somewhat close to it is something to be proud of lol
    68AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:11
    A little disappointing it didn't crack a million domestically.
    No wonder the character designs have been leaning more Western lately.
    71AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:29
    Re: #68
    The hardware price hike is probably having a real impact
    On top of that, there are likely users who played during the pandemic and never came back since
    87AnonymousNov 11, 2026 19:41
    Re: #68
    A remake selling 810K in four days seems like plenty for this day and age, though
    83AnonymousNov 11, 2026 19:37
    Some people kept insisting it's outselling GTA
    85AnonymousNov 11, 2026 19:39
    Re: #83
    Got a source for that?

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    Nintendo has been steadily releasing remakes of its past titles, and this time the published figures were 5.2 million units sold worldwide and 810,000 in Japan over the first four days. In the thread, posters raised comparisons to other companies’ major titles (GTA6, Marvel games, etc.) and to the Switch 2’s install base, but it’s worth noting that many of these figures are based on individual posters’ memory or hearsay rather than official announcements. In particular, several posts compared raw unit totals while ignoring differences in the “tracking period” (the number of days since release varies by title), and other posters in the thread called this out. There was also discussion of the series’ growing domestic sales since Breath of the Wild, and speculation about the direction of the next installment (based on the producer lineup), but all of this is inference drawn from sales data rather than confirmed information.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Hardware/Industry, “Geha”) thread “The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Remake Tops 5.2 Million Units Sold in 4 Days (Including 810,000 in Japan)!“

  • PS5 Hits 100 Million Units Sold Worldwide — 5ch: “It Never Sold in Japan”

    Sony Interactive Entertainment announced on the 11th that worldwide cumulative sales of the PlayStation 5 (PS5) have surpassed 100 million units. The milestone was revealed on the “Business Progress” page of the official website, reached five years after launch. Reactions on 5ch were split: some said rising semiconductor prices have actually made the PS5 look like an even better deal, others pointed to weak sales in Japan, and still others questioned whether the announced figure is “sell-in” (units shipped to retailers) rather than “sell-through” (units actually sold to consumers).

    PS5 cumulative sales top 100 million! Is a generational handover getting closer?

    Sony Interactive Entertainment announced on November 11 that worldwide cumulative sales of the PlayStation 5 (PS5) have surpassed 100 million units.

    This was revealed on SIE’s official “Business Progress” page.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    5AnonymousNov 11, 2026 16:04
    It's been over 5 years since launch, but with semiconductor prices skyrocketing, the PS5 has suddenly become an amazing deal.
    199AnonymousNov 11, 2026 19:14
    Re: #5
    The Japan-only model has kept the same price this whole time.

    You couldn't build an equivalent gaming PC for even 100,000 yen (~$650).
    212AnonymousNov 11, 2026 19:35
    Re: #5
    There are people out there using their PS5 as a PC now…
    7AnonymousNov 11, 2026 16:05
    It never sold in Japan.
    The curse of Sony snubbing Japan back in the PS4 era lives on.
    145AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:09
    Re: #7
    Nah, the general public moved on starting from the PS2 era
    — now it's just a niche crowd of enthusiasts.
    10AnonymousNov 11, 2026 16:09
    I wonder how many of them ended up as parts in military hardware 😙
    93AnonymousNov 11, 2026 17:20
    Re: #10
    Ah, that makes sense.
    15AnonymousNov 11, 2026 16:15
    I wonder how many million-selling titles there are for it.
    144AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:07
    Re: #15
    Still zero million-sellers in Japan.
    19AnonymousNov 11, 2026 16:16
    Hard to believe all of a sudden —
    what are people even playing on it?
    23AnonymousNov 11, 2026 16:20
    Re: #19
    Probably less about games and more about using them for AI processing
    Back in the day people used to cluster tons of PS3s together for mining or to use as a makeshift supercomputer.
    25AnonymousNov 11, 2026 16:21
    Re: #23
    Look at reality — Sony's entertainment division just posted record-high profits.
    28AnonymousNov 11, 2026 16:22
    Re: #25
    Apparently in terms of operating profit, it only earns about half of what the music division brings in.
    171AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:41
    Re: #25
    I wonder what fraction of Nintendo's that actually is…
    40AnonymousNov 11, 2026 16:33
    Re: #1
    > Note that this figure is "sell-in" — units the manufacturer shipped to retailers — not "sell-through," which is what retailers actually sold to consumers.

    Hmm…
    49AnonymousNov 11, 2026 16:41
    Re: #40
    Game consoles have always reported cumulative shipment numbers — nothing new there. What's there to question?
    166AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:33
    Re: #40
    Sony doesn't have full visibility into how many units retailers actually sold or their inventory situation.
    And there's no company out there tallying up estimated worldwide sales either.
    So unless they're just dumping stock on retailers and eating the returns, sell-in is the only number there is.
    50AnonymousNov 11, 2026 16:42
    They should make a car with a built-in PlayStation.
    65AnonymousNov 11, 2026 16:52
    Re: #50
    Didn't Honda and Sony scrap their EV project?
    75AnonymousNov 11, 2026 17:11
    Re: #1
    Amazing! If I win 700 million yen in the lottery, I'm definitely buying a PS5!
    …though the lottery site's been down forever lol
    102AnonymousNov 11, 2026 17:25
    Re: #75
    Why would you need to win 700 million yen just to buy a PS5?
    I don't know how many you're planning to buy, but if it's that many,
    couldn't you just afford them with the money you'd spend on lottery tickets?
    88AnonymousNov 11, 2026 17:18
    Its heyday got cut short because it became scalper bait.
    96AnonymousNov 11, 2026 17:21
    Re: #88
    Well, the stock price is doing great.
    109AnonymousNov 11, 2026 17:30
    Tons of people own a Switch or Switch 2, but with the PS5 it's like… who's even buying this besides me?
    122AnonymousNov 11, 2026 17:41
    Re: #109
    The Switch 2 isn't selling either.
    Weekly sales have dropped especially since the price hike.
    In the end, it all comes down to price.
    123AnonymousNov 11, 2026 17:41
    Re: #28
    In Sony Group's most recent financial results (fiscal 2025, etc.), the operating profit for the Game & Network Services segment overall is roughly on par with the Music segment — if anything, Games is slightly ahead.
    162AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:28
    Re: #123
    Only counting units shipped to stores is classic Sony —
    they've been doing that since the PS3 days.
    And honestly even back then they were just pushing hardware while most of the software was multiplatform and didn't sell.
    131AnonymousNov 11, 2026 17:53
    Persona 6 is coming to Switch too, right?
    Don't even need a PlayStation anymore lol
    134AnonymousNov 11, 2026 17:56
    Re: #131
    Globally though, the Switch 2 is seen as the trash one.
    132AnonymousNov 11, 2026 17:53
    It's actually impressive that the PS5 is cheaper than the Switch 2.
    139AnonymousNov 11, 2026 17:59
    Re: #132
    Isn't that just a Japan thing?
    There aren't even games made for the Japanese market anymore anyway.
    140AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:00
    If you've got a gaming PC you don't need a PS5.
    Did it really sell 100 million units?
    149AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:14
    Re: #140
    Say that again after you check gaming PC prices these days.
    143AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:02
    There are people who seem bitter that it's selling well worldwide — what's that feeling even about?
    154AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:23
    Re: #143
    I'd like to ask that of the people getting all excited when it's only selling overseas.
    It flopped domestically and lost exclusive third-party titles to other platforms — what exactly is there to celebrate lol
    153AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:21
    Honestly, games these days are just boring (´・ω・`)
    Not everything needs to be made realistic (´・ω・`)
    157AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:27
    Re: #153
    Even the realism hasn't really changed in about 5 years.
    AAA titles play it so safe there's no originality left anymore.
    190AnonymousNov 11, 2026 19:05
    I've never seen anyone actually put a gaming PC to good use outside of gaming.
    They don't even set up a dev environment on it.
    194AnonymousNov 11, 2026 19:10
    Re: #190
    I've only ever used a gaming PC for work.
    I'd never buy a 500,000+ yen (~$3,300+) PC for personal use.
    198AnonymousNov 11, 2026 19:14
    Re: #190
    If it's a hobby, sure, but what's the point of setting up a dev environment when it's not even for work (´・ω・`)
    These days it'd probably be for AI stuff, but whether that counts as "putting it to good use" is questionable (´・ω・`)

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    The 100-million-unit figure is Sony’s cumulative “sell-in” total — units shipped from the manufacturer to retailers — not “sell-through,” the number actually bought by consumers. Since there’s no global body that tallies real-world console sales, it’s standard industry practice for manufacturers to report sell-in as their official figures, so as commenters in the thread pointed out, this isn’t really a new issue. The PS5 got off to a slow start due to the semiconductor shortage and scalper markups right after launch, but unit sales picked up once prices settled down. At the same time, the console has had a noticeably weaker presence in Japan compared to previous PlayStation generations, with commenters also pointing to a decline in Japan-exclusive titles — fueling the “it never sold in Japan” narrative. It’s also worth noting, and easy to overlook, that in Sony Group’s financial results, operating profit for the Game & Network Services segment has grown to roughly match the Music segment — a sign that the business’s profit structure has been shifting well beyond just hardware unit growth.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (News Flash+) thread “Sony: PlayStation 5 (PS5) Worldwide Cumulative Sales Surpass 100 Million Units.”

  • Yokozuna Hoshoryu Falls to Ura Again — 5ch: “He Can’t Sit Out Unless His Limbs Literally Fall Off”

    On Day 4 of the Kyushu Grand Sumo Tournament (November 11, Fukuoka International Center), yokozuna Hoshoryu was pushed out and defeated by Ura, suffering a shocking second straight loss that sent the arena into an uproar. For Ura, it was his first “kinboshi” (gold star upset win over a yokozuna) in four years. The same day, Fujiryoga beat Anseikin to complete a sweep over one yokozuna and two ozeki, while Atamifuji stayed the sole unbeaten leader with his fourth straight win. On the thread, posters repeatedly voiced concern over the state of Hoshoryu’s knee, debating whether he’d forced himself to compete and when he should withdraw or retire — while opinions also split over whether yokozuna should even have a demotion system in the first place.

    Daily Sports, 11.11

    “Grand Sumo Kyushu Tournament, Day 4” (November 11, Fukuoka International Center)

    Yokozuna Hoshoryu lost to Ura by oshidashi (force-out), suffering his second straight defeat. The arena erupted in commotion. For Ura, it was his first kinboshi in four years.

    Source: daily.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:17
    Because watching an Osaka night-view video channel on YouTube is more fun than watching Peace-kun from Omiya Park.
    3AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:17
    Sumo these days just doesn't have an undisputed top dog like Hakuho or Asashoryu anymore.
    5AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:18
    The radio commentator, stablemaster Tatsunami, was hinting he might withdraw.
    8AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:18
    Didn't catch today's bout, but yesterday he sure looked like he was favoring his knee.
    49AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:40
    Re: #8
    During the bout his knee was wobbling and his lower leg was twisting in a weird direction.
    9AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:19
    He should just say "I hurt my knee" and withdraw already.
    10AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:19
    Hoshoryu couldn't plant his feet properly from day one, but it looks like his knee completely gave out after yesterday.
    13AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:21
    He forced himself to compete in basically no condition to fight, so this isn't really a "shock."
    14AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:23
    You could already tell it was hopeless just from watching yesterday's bout.
    16AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:24
    Everybody's bodies are just wrecked.
    28AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:29
    Re: #16
    There's no way guys around 150kg can slam into each other head-on 90 times a year with zero protective gear and come out fine.
    You normally can't manage it unless you take planned breaks like Hakuho did in his later years.
    18AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:25
    If he loses tomorrow, he's probably out.
    Though he might end up withdrawing starting tomorrow anyway.
    26AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:29
    Re: #18
    This tournament, he can't withdraw unless his limbs are literally torn off.
    Withdrawing = retirement, no other option.
    19AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:26
    People will bring up his future, but he was only promoted to yokozuna because it suited the Association — I'd like them to give him a bit more time.
    20AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:27
    So when's he retiring?
    27AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:29
    Re: #20
    Tomorrow, if he loses. Three losses this early is checkmate.
    21AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:27
    Hoshoryu doesn't need to come back until he's fully healed.
    Even fully healed, he's still weak anyway.
    22AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:27
    Time to rethink the touring schedule already.
    The calendar's as brutal as the old All Japan or New Japan pro wrestling circuits.
    24AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:28
    This is a tough problem.
    When you talk about sumo, it just doesn't feel complete without a yokozuna.
    But it's hard to tell, at the moment someone looks strongest, whether they truly have real yokozuna-caliber strength.
    Especially now that it's no longer an era where everyone goes full contact every single time.
    And if going full contact is the only option, you end up with nothing but injuries.
    It really is a tough problem.
    25AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:28
    What's causing this system where guys fall apart right after getting promoted?
    29AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:30
    Re: #1
    No need for a daily sumo thread.
    Flood-posting trolls, stay out.
    30AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:30
    But he can still be a stablemaster for 5 years after this, right? Something will work out by then.
    32AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:31
    Fujiryoga's power is incredible.
    His match against Onosato was close too, and he's beaten every other ozeki and yokozuna he's faced.
    96AnonymousNov 11, 2026 19:07
    Re: #32
    Wish they could've matched him against prime Takakeisho.
    Similar build and fighting style — that would've been a great bout.
    33AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:31
    They should've just capped him at top-ozeki level.
    36AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:32
    Re: #33
    At this rate he's basically dropped below ozeki level.
    37AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:33
    Hoshoryu's record wasn't yokozuna-worthy to begin with — promoting him was the mistake.
    Though with his knee giving out like that both yesterday and today, the injury is clearly a huge factor too.
    57AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:44
    They should just allow yokozuna demotion too.
    Everyone loses their drive the second they're promoted to yokozuna, like they've already "arrived."
    64AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:47
    Re: #57
    That can't be done.
    The whole point of the yokozuna rank is that it's treated as a god-like, untouchable status.
    Tearing that down would mean tearing down sumo itself.
    62AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:47
    Asashoryu was so dominant,
    so why is his relative this bad?
    69AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:49
    Ura won by oshidashi (force-out)? What happened?
    73AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:51
    Re: #69
    (self-reply)
    Just watched it.
    What happened to Hoshoryu?
    83AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:58
    Re: #73
    He came out even though his knee injury hasn't healed.
    He'll probably withdraw now that he's turning into a "kinboshi machine" (a yokozuna who keeps handing lower-ranked wrestlers their upset win).
    82AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:57
    Yokozuna used to retire the moment they stopped winning, which is why there's no demotion system — but now they just drag out their careers indefinitely, so the yokozuna title has lost all its value.
    85AnonymousNov 11, 2026 18:59
    Re: #82
    Blame Kisenosato.
    94AnonymousNov 11, 2026 19:04
    Onosato's a shaky yokozuna too, but Hoshoryu's weakness is on a whole other level.
    100AnonymousNov 11, 2026 19:11
    Re: #94
    Onosato had a weak mentality but he's bounced back now.
    Hoshoryu's properly strong when his knee is in good shape.
    95AnonymousNov 11, 2026 19:04
    Takayasu: "The time has come! This is it, this is the time!!"
    99AnonymousNov 11, 2026 19:11
    Re: #95
    You lost too, though.

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    In sumo, there’s no “demotion” system for yokozuna even if their results decline — whether to retire is left entirely up to the wrestler or the Sumo Association. There have been cases, like Kisenosato, of wrestlers racking up withdrawals before eventually retiring, but there’s no written rule for when a withdrawal should turn into a retirement. A kinboshi (“gold star”) is the honor awarded to a lower-ranked wrestler who beats a yokozuna in an official bout, and it factors into a wrestler’s rankings and pay. The thread’s disagreement centers on whether Hoshoryu’s injury stems from competing when he shouldn’t have, and whether the current system should let him keep his rank regardless. It’s worth noting that there’s been no official statement yet from Hoshoryu or the Association about his knee — most of the comments are just speculation based on how he looked in the ring.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisoku/Entertainment & Sports News+) thread “[Sumo Day 4] Hoshoryu shocks arena with second straight loss; Ura scores first kinboshi in 4 years; Fujiryoga sweeps 1 yokozuna + 2 ozeki; Atamifuji stays sole unbeaten leader with 4th win.”