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The story
A thread kicked off with the post “I think around 157cm is the best height for a female idol,” and 5ch users dove into a debate over their preferred heights. The discussion soon moved from opinions to hard numbers, with posters naming specific members and even posting average height data for each Hello! Project subgroup. Juice=Juice, at 162.05cm the tallest group on average, was pointed out to also be one of the most popular — a fact that shook the very premise that “shorter is better.” Opinions split between those rooting for a height “you just want to protect” and those who felt that, for a professional performer, such heights are simply too short.
What people said
For a celebrity, 160cm should be the bare minimum.
Says the short old dude who's only 160cm himself lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
It's probably more like Yasuda, Gotou, Irie, Kasai, or Yonemura level
Kasai's probably more like 152cm
The female fans demanding tall idols are just way too loud about it.
What are you, Kurochan? (a Japanese comedian frequently the butt of looks-based jokes)
There are no short guys at KISS OF LIFE or HI-KEY shows
K-pop fandoms are mostly female fans to begin with — guys are already a minority there.
So that just proves it's the women who want tall idols.
But Dambara, the most popular member in Hello! Project right now, is 164.5cm
Being short gets you passed over — both as an idol and as a biological matter.
There it is, moving the goalposts.
I win.
Come on, leave him alone lmaooooo
Juice=Juice 162.05cm
BEYOOOOONDS 160.76cm
OCHA NORMA 159.81cm
Morning Musume。'26 158.85cm
ANGERME 157.12cm
Tsubaki Factory 156.32cm
Rosy Chronicle 153.06cm
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HLvzfSZawAA_5MR.jpg
Rosy Chronicle's short lol
So in reality, the group that's actually selling — Juice=Juice — has the highest average height.
Scientifically, low-income, short men tend to prefer short women or the petite 'loli' type.
Conversely, high-income, tall men tend to prefer women with a great figure.
I honestly think that's true.
That place is on another level.
There was a foreign YouTuber who's 193cm and he was still below average there lol
There were women who were 195cm lol
Go above or below that range and it's genuinely a minus there.
Same old story — you're short and so is Hong Kong, apparently.
Though maybe you actually are from Hong Kong.
Ringo Musume are huge lol (a local idol group from Hirosaki known for its apple-themed image)
Where exactly are they big?
Unless you're an unusually tall guy yourself, you wouldn't think Juice is tall.
I think she's around 159cm now.
I recall she narrowly lost to Mifu-chan in height lol
That's because Mifu was lying about her height
Yeah, I get it
Pretty sure Yuuchami's actually 176cm
Background and Key Points of This Discussion
The average heights cited in the thread for each Hello! Project subgroup largely reflect the groups’ official profile figures, with Juice=Juice’s 162.05cm the tallest and Rosy Chronicle’s 153.06cm the shortest. That gap is the foundation of the split between the ‘shorter is more protectable’ camp and those who see being too short as a disadvantage for a professional performer. One thing worth flagging: the thread’s claims that ‘female fans prefer taller idols’ and ‘male fans prefer petite ones’ aren’t backed by any actual survey of fan demographics — they’re purely anecdotal impressions. Likewise, the theory about Dutch mate-selection driving height and the references to overseas rating charts aren’t supported by any verifiable source; they’re presented here simply as talking points that came up in the thread.
*This article was compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “I think around 157cm is the best height for a female idol.”
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