Author: Japan Reacts Editorial

  • Yuko Nakazawa Attends Juice=Juice’s Fukuoka Show — Ruru Danbara: ‘She Gave Me Such Kind Words’

    Yuko Nakazawa, the founding leader of Morning Musume。, revealed on social media that she attended Juice=Juice’s Fukuoka concert. She raved, “It was fun from the opening all the way to the end” and “Hearing all 11 members of Juice=Juice sing together left me overwhelmed.” Juice=Juice’s Ruru Danbara responded on her own account, writing, “Nakazawa-san came to see us together with her daughter.” On 5channel’s Hello! Project board, some pointed out an affinity between the two groups — noting that early Morning Musume。 was itself a vocal-focused lineup — and warmly welcomed her as Hello! Project’s “founding mother,” while others questioned her show of support for a different group.

    3AnonymousSep 28, 2026 08:48
    yuko_nakazawa_
    🍹🍹

    I went to see Juice=Juice's Fukuoka concert.

    From the opening entrance
    to the very end,
    it was fun the whole time!
    Seriously so much fun!!

    Amazing vocals, incredible vocal power.
    Dance performance in perfect sync.
    And within that, each member's own personality
    really shone through — it was so good.
    Even the sway of their costumes felt like part of the show.
    They looked so cool, and so cute.

    That big anthem everyone gets hyped for —
    getting to hear and see it with all 11 members of Juice=Juice singing
    was so moving, I was overwhelmed with emotion.

    Everyone in Juice=Juice,
    thank you for the best time!!

    Still basking in the afterglow ✨

    https://www.instagram.com/p/Ddzzj2dMwiC/
    4AnonymousSep 28, 2026 08:53
    An assassin sent from the old flagship group…
    6AnonymousSep 28, 2026 08:58
    761 Anonymous (WatchoiW 240a:61:600a:2eab:*) Sat 2026/09/26 17:31:59.59 0
    Snuck in at the last minute when general sale reopened and ended up in the back row —
    looked over and there was big sis Nakazawa.
    7AnonymousSep 28, 2026 08:59
    No photos taken together?
    8AnonymousSep 28, 2026 08:59
    It genuinely moved me that Nakazawa-san tried out Moreme (a flattering selfie-filter app).
    9AnonymousSep 28, 2026 09:01
    Morning Musume。 got its start from a rock-vocalist audition, so in its early days it was a vocal-focused group — for those original members, Juice=Juice probably feels closer to home these days.
    10AnonymousSep 28, 2026 09:04
    The great founding mother of Hello! Project.
    11AnonymousSep 28, 2026 09:05
    Hello! Project's benevolent mother.
    12AnonymousSep 28, 2026 09:06
    So she got a royal audience with Danbara?
    13AnonymousSep 28, 2026 09:07
    That's some seriously gushing praise.
    Somebody needs to give the JJ members actual feedback or they'll never grow.
    14AnonymousSep 28, 2026 09:08
    Juice=Juice's Ruru Danbara: "At our fall tour's Fukuoka stop, Yuko Nakazawa came to see us together with her daughter! She gave us so many kind words too."
    http://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1790464385/
    15AnonymousSep 28, 2026 09:08
    Nakazawa's the puppet emperor of the Later Han,
    and Danbara's Cao Cao (the general who really held the power behind the throne).
    51AnonymousSep 28, 2026 09:41
    I used to be really into it back in the day…
    but these days I'm well aware I've finally come to my senses.
    52AnonymousSep 28, 2026 09:43
    So the old guy who's always losing his mind online used to be a Musume。 otaku, huh? lol
    54AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:06
    She just went up a notch in my book.
    55AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:37
    Wasn't it her eldest daughter who got hooked on Juice through Moreme?
    56AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:49
    This kind of thing is happening around other OGs (graduated former members) too —
    Saito-san's husband joined the fan club as well.
    58AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:52
    The founding mother has made her move.
    59AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:53
    For the upcoming 30th anniversary,
    big sis Nakazawa is going to be the main highlight.
    61AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:02
    She did say she's planning to dance at the 30th anniversary.
    66AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:02
    Rika Ishikawa reunited with Yui Okada.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/Ddz6OgVKZ9d/?stkn=bDlhNGlnd2djc2xm
    73AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:02
    Did big sis Nakazawa abandon Musume。?
    93AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:07
    It's just that Nakazawa's daughter is a Juice fan.
    101AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:20
    If Nakazawa-san has abandoned Morning Musume。, please stop getting involved with the current members.

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    In 1997, Yuko Nakazawa was chosen as Morning Musume。’s founding leader through a singing audition produced by Tsunku♂ of Sharan Q, making her the starting point of Hello! Project itself. Juice=Juice is known for a lineup built around strong vocal ability, which is why some in the thread note it resembles early Morning Musume。 — a comment rooted in that history. Where opinions diverge is over how to view a graduated member attending a concert by a different group and publicly praising it: some are simply happy for her, while others ask whether she’s “betrayed” Morning Musume。. This reflects the gap between Hello! Project fandom’s deep-rooted culture of prizing single-minded devotion to one’s favorite group, and the reality that a graduated member watches over all her juniors without playing favorites — more a mismatch in fan psychology than any real controversy.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (Hello! Project board) thread “Yuko Nakazawa was at Juice=Juice’s Fukuoka concert!!!!!!!!!!“.

  • Yakult’s Takahashi Keiji Pulled After Giving Up 7 Runs on Just 4 Hits, Fans Dismayed: ‘Act Like a Pro’

    On September 28, Sporting News Japan reported that Yakult Swallows pitcher Keiji Takahashi was pulled mid-game after allowing 7 runs on just 4 hits, sparking discussion on 5ch’s Entertainment & Sports Breaking News+ board. Since Takahashi is a left-hander with experience on the Samurai Japan national team, posters had harsh words, many saying to ‘act like a pro.’ The thread grew into a broader debate about why high-school-drafted left-handed pitchers tend not to blossom into stars, and about whether Yakult currently has an ‘ace’ who can serve as a role model for younger teammates — with some naming pitcher Yamano as an ace candidate, and others countering that the bar for ‘ace’ on this team is set far too low.

    7 Runs Allowed on Just 4 Hits: Fans Lose Faith in Yakult Lefty, ‘Act Like a Pro’… Despite Samurai Japan Pedigree, ‘When Did It Come to This?’

    Mon, Sep 28, 5:50 AM JST

    Sporting News Japan

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    4AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:21
    Why's a Yakult fan talking in Tora-ben? (the Kansai-flavored slang associated with Hanshin Tigers fans)
    58AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:58
    Re: #4
    Huh?
    Plenty of Hanshin fans actually speak standard Tokyo dialect.
    5AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:22
    Oh, Tomochin's husband. (his wife is idol Tomomi Itano, nicknamed 'Tomochin')
    He was called a promising young prospect when they first got married…
    19AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:29
    Re: #5
    High-school-drafted lefties basically never make it big.
    Since the Heisei era, only Kazuhisa Ishii and Yusei Kikuchi have reached 100 career wins in NPB.

    Kawaguchi, Kawachi, Tsujiuchi, Terajima…
    Even guys hyped as the headline pick of a first-round draft lottery routinely fizzle out and vanish without a trace. And even ones like Naruse who broke out in their early twenties end up unable to win past 25, then it's the retirement track past 30 — that's the typical arc for a high-school lefty.
    15AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:26
    Surprised he ever made Samurai Japan, though he was pretty good in the Japan Series.
    31AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:44
    Re: #15
    Not that surprising — his Japan Series outing was dominant.
    He was supposed to keep improving from there.
    Back then his wife was treated as his 'agemanko' (a woman believed to bring her partner good luck), but his luck ran out when he got tied down with a strange woman.
    21AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:32
    Yakult really doesn't have a pitcher right now who can show the younger guys what an 'ace' actually looks like.
    22AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:34
    Re: #21
    Yamano, obviously.
    However you slice it.
    25AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:38
    Re: #22
    Nah, that's just this year, isn't it?
    Who knows about next year.
    You can't call him an ace unless he puts up at least 7 wins consistently for a minimum of 4-5 years.
    26AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:39
    Re: #22
    He has one decent year and suddenly he's the ace, however you slice it?
    The bar for 'Yakult ace' is really low, huh.
    23AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:36
    Why don't high-school lefties ever pan out?
    I guess through high school, just being left-handed is already a huge advantage on its own?
    48AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:51
    Re: #23
    >Why don't high-school lefties ever pan out?

    Masa Yamamoto, Imanaka.
    30AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:42
    Re: #26
    Of course the bar for 'ace of the Scrub-alt' (a mocking nickname mashing up Yakult with 雑魚, 'scrub') is low — they're headed for last place again this year anyway.
    33AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:46
    Re: #30
    Ah, sorry, my bad — I meant it as an ace who can develop the younger guys and serve as a role model.
    In that sense, I don't think a pitcher who just popped up out of nowhere with a low bar carries much weight.
    35AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:46
    Re: #31
    That's just plain dumb, honestly.
    By that logic, you'd have to prioritize whoever's been hot the last few games over their whole-season numbers.
    43AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:50
    Re: #35
    If he suddenly dominated in the Japan Series, it's not the least bit strange to think he's built for the big stage in short series, and it's natural to want to bank on that.
    Conversely, there have definitely been players who had great regular seasons but couldn't step up in a short series.
    37AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:47
    He's just a batting-practice pitcher who happens to throw lefty.
    49AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:52
    Re: #37
    Six walks/HBPs — disqualified even as a batting-practice pitcher.
    38AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:47
    Maybe he should try a change of scenery?
    Somewhere like Nippon-Ham, Rakuten, or the Carp.
    40AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:49
    By rights, Okugawa should already have several years of results under his belt and be Yakult's ace by now.
    45AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:51
    Re: #40
    If only he'd gotten Tommy John surgery sooner.
    61AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:00
    It's fine for a batter's wife to be in the public eye, but not for a pitcher's wife — look at Ochiai's or Nomura's wives.

    For pitchers, about the only one is Darvish's ex-wife. I think Wakui's wife was in the spotlight too, but name one other pitcher who married a celebrity, kept her in the public eye, and still performed well.
    Almost all of them stay out of the spotlight and support quietly from behind the scenes.
    Elite ballplayers all across Japan follow this pattern, and that's the result.

    Starting pitchers push their bodies so hard that they need at least four days to recover before their next start.
    65AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:01
    Re: #61
    Matsuzaka: 'Tell me about it.'
    66AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:02
    And here I thought there was already a deal worked out with the Giants through the 'Tokyo Alliance' (a fan conspiracy theory about backroom cooperation between Tokyo-area teams).
    No way a guy at Takahashi Keiji's level should be self-destructing like this.
    81AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:22
    Re: #66
    Huh? Third-rate Takahashi has been walking and hitting batters and self-destructing in plenty of games besides the Giants ones too.
    He had 6 walks/HBPs against DeNA back in July as well.
    80AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:22
    He's never even thrown enough innings to qualify for the ERA title, and he can't handle a normal turnaround on 6 days' rest.
    It's nothing but good outings followed by blowups, zero consistency.
    Fans are already fed up with him.
    100AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:32
    Re: #80
    I kept thinking he should just switch to relief, but that doesn't look feasible either.
    Guess it's the chopping block.
    83AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:23
    There are other pitchers just like this out there — why does Takahashi alone get singled out for criticism?
    85AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:24
    Re: #83
    I figured all of Yakult's starters were about this level, then it turns out there's a guy on another planet going 12-4 lol.
    86AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:24
    Feels harsh to criticize him when he only allowed 4 hits.
    89AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:26
    Re: #86
    6 walks/HBPs in 3 innings.
    91AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:28
    Re: #86
    2.2 innings, 4 hits, 4 walks, 2 hit batters, 7 runs.
    Garbage.
    104AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:36
    Takahashi Keiji has never qualified for the ERA title or won double digits in a season — he's stuck at 'promising young player' status, but hey, maybe this is just his level.
    He might break out for the first time at 30, like Hanshin's Haruto Takahashi did.
    109AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:38
    Re: #104
    Haruto Takahashi basically missed 4 years to injury though…
    Turns out Hanshin fans weren't lying when they said 'if he's ever at full health, he's unstoppable.'

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    Keiji Takahashi is a high-school-drafted left-hander who joined the Yakult Swallows as the team’s first-round pick in the 2019 draft, and he was selected for the Samurai Japan national team at the 2023 World Baseball Classic. The recurring claim in the thread that “high-school lefties rarely become stars” was based on one poster’s assertion that only Kazuhisa Ishii and Yusei Kikuchi have reached 100 career wins in NPB since the Heisei era began — worth noting this wasn’t backed by any rigorous statistical analysis. Opinion was also split, without a clear resolution, over what actually makes an “ace”: whether it should be judged on this season’s stats alone or on a multi-year track record. As for the outing itself, the line was 2.2 innings, 4 hits, 4 walks, 2 hit batters, and 7 runs allowed — suggesting hits allowed were actually low, and that control trouble from walks and hit batters was the main cause of the runs.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Entertainment & Sports Breaking News+) thread “[Yakult] Fans Lose Faith in Pitcher Keiji Takahashi After 7 Runs Allowed on 4 Hits, ‘Act Like a Pro’… Despite Samurai Japan Experience, ‘When Did It Come to This?’.”

  • Why Do Restaurants Make You Order via Smartphone but Skip the Customer Wi-Fi?

    ITmedia reported that while more restaurants are getting customers to order via smartphone using QR codes, a striking number of them don’t provide free Wi-Fi for customers to use — and the story sparked a reaction on 5channel’s News Express+ board. In the thread, some pointed to the running costs restaurants want to avoid by skipping Wi-Fi, and others said they actually welcome ordering on their own phone over touching a shared tablet for hygiene reasons — but others argued it’s unreasonable for restaurants with poor signal to make customers foot the data bill. Opinions split between the store-side logic of cutting costs and customer frustration over having to cover their own data costs, over whether QR-code ordering is really justified.

    Why Do Restaurants Make You Order via Smartphone but Skip the Customer Wi-Fi? (1/2) – ITmedia NEWS

    Published: September 28, 2026, 7:00 AM

    Updated: September 28, 2026, 10:59 AM

    Source: itmedia.co.jp / Read the original article here

    4AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:19
    If the signal's bad there, they should really provide Wi-Fi.
    9AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:20
    Re: #4

    Places with bad signal would go out of business doing this lol
    317AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:53
    Re: #4
    That's exactly like a place near me.
    With one bar of signal it keeps freezing up, like something's wrong, and you have to reload the page.
    7AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:20
    I just don't go to places like that.

    I avoid places with tablets sitting out too — phones and tablets are dirtier than socks.
    223AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:43
    Re: #7
    By that logic, aren't menus dirty too?
    321AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:53
    Re: #7
    Sounds like you're the type who brings your phone or tablet into the bathroom at home.
    31AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:23
    Come to think of it, a place like that
    could get flooded with fake orders from outside

    though that would count as obstruction of business.
    42AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:25
    Re: #31
    To prevent that, requiring LINE registration is becoming the standard.
    182AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:41
    Re: #42
    If it's just that much, the restaurant should provide a dedicated device.
    52AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:26
    Do you guys seriously reconnect to the Wi-Fi every single time just to order?
    58AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:26
    Re: #52
    I've got unlimited data, so I don't bother connecting each time.
    64AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:28
    Re: #52
    People like that are a tiny minority.
    71AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:28
    Better hog the store's Wi-Fi to get my money's worth
    …just kidding.
    74AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:29
    Re: #71
    You'll just get charged for it via the otoshi fee (the mandatory small appetizer charge at Japanese izakayas).
    81AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:29
    Re: #71
    So you're gonna keep reloading the menu page until you feel you've gotten your money's worth?
    Sounds exhausting lol
    167AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:39
    "A chain restaurant might be one thing, but it's even more true for small and mid-sized restaurants that don't have a lot of tech-savvy staff."

    Then just don't do smartphone ordering in the first place. Why should I have to burn my precious data allowance?
    194AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:42
    Re: #167
    What you're using up is packet data, not "gigs."
    294AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:51
    Re: #167
    Things like no register fraud, no order mistakes —
    it simplifies the annoying closing-time work for the restaurant.
    But they shouldn't be pushing that burden onto customers.
    179AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:41
    Re: #158
    When they clear the plates and wipe the table, I wish they'd properly wipe down the tablet too.
    At family restaurants I go grab a wet wipe first and clean the tablet before ordering.
    185AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:41
    Re: #179
    But that's just smearing the grime around.
    200AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:42
    Re: #185
    It's sticky, so doing that is still better than nothing.
    206AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:43
    Re: #200
    Makes me think ordering on my own phone is just better after all.
    Places like McDonald's are basically all mobile order now anyway.
    217AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:43
    Re: #200
    Just carry your own bottle of Kitchen Haiter (a common bleach spray) and splash it on whenever needed.
    180AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:41
    Whether to go or not is the customer's choice, so if a place doesn't have working Wi-Fi, you just don't go there — isn't that all there is to it?
    193AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:42
    Re: #180
    Then post it at the entrance.
    You can't just walk out once you're already inside and at the ordering stage.
    197AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:42
    Re: #180
    Basically, you only find out after you've already entered the store, so customers end up feeling like they've been "tricked."
    204AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:43
    A basement-level place where only Docomo has signal, no Wi-Fi either —
    and they still make you QR order. I laughed.
    241AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:45
    Re: #204
    So you're saying go outside to order?
    242AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:45
    Re: #204
    If you can't order verbally, just leave.
    209AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:43
    Ordinary people just don't get why the so-called 'educated class' keeps pushing this argument so anxiously.
    Overseas, this kind of infrastructure consolidation has sent national productivity soaring,
    and countries doing the same thing with AI on top are growing at an insane pace.
    Yet Japan alone keeps falling behind, productivity keeps dropping, and it's becoming irreversible.
    236AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:44
    Re: #209
    There's no such country, as always (a stock 5ch retort meaning "here we go again").
    255AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:45
    Re: #209
    If you're going to call yourself part of the "educated class," at least teach them the simple fix: have the restaurant keep one spare phone on hand so customers who forgot theirs can order too.
    345AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:57
    Re: #209
    You'd probably blame the bubble bursting on Wi-Fi too…
    339AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:56
    I'll say it again —
    why are you so deathly opposed to Japan's productivity improving?
    I'm not trying to bait you, but Japan alone is getting left behind the rest of the world's rising productivity, you know?
    Are you saying anyone who pushes for that no matter what is unforgivable and has to stop? That's a pretty dangerous way of thinking.
    351AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:58
    Re: #339
    If restaurants just install tablets themselves, that spending happens right there and productivity goes up, no?
    359AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:58
    Re: #339
    It's the opposite — it's precisely because productivity is falling.
    This is basically solved just by keeping QR ordering as the main method while having one staff member carry a phone to also handle verbal orders. But here you are, embarrassingly steamrolling everyone with the delusion that you alone are right.
    367AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:59
    Re: #339
    It's because it lowers customers' time efficiency.
    Table turnover drops too, so it's only struggling, run-down places that adopt it.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Mobile ordering (QR-code ordering) offers a major benefit to restaurants struggling with staff shortages: fewer order mistakes and less hassle with register reconciliation. On the other hand, investing in network infrastructure tends to be avoided as an added cost. For customers on budget SIM plans with capped data, a system that eats into their data allowance every time they place an order can be a real burden that’s hard to ignore. In the thread, some said they actually prefer ordering on their own phone over a shared tablet for hygiene reasons, while others criticized the fact that the burden of cost-cutting ends up falling on customers’ data usage — leaving no consensus on whether store-side rationality or customer burden should take priority. Note that some posts that veered off into a debate comparing productivity with other countries have been omitted here, since they aren’t directly related to the Wi-Fi installation issue itself.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (News Express+) thread “Why Do Restaurants Make You Order via Smartphone but Skip the Customer Wi-Fi?.”

  • Why Won’t Third-Party Blockbusters Sell on Switch 2? 5ch Weighs In: ‘The Third-Party Killer Reputation Is Earned’

    With opening-week numbers showing just 60,000 units for Resident Evil Requiem and 30,000 for Elden Ring on Switch 2, 5ch users debated why big-budget third-party titles are underperforming on the console. Explanations ranged from Nintendo’s enduringly loyal fanbase, to the industry norm that a later port doing 10-20% of the original version’s sales counts as a win, to the possibility that existing owners are sticking with their PS5 or PC versions. At the same time, posters kept correcting each other over whether titles actually launched day-and-date, underscoring just how tricky simple sales comparisons can be.

    1AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:54
    Switch 2 Third-Party Blockbuster Sales
    Resident Evil Requiem: 60,000
    Elden Ring: 30,000
    9AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:57
    The 'Third-Party Killer' reputation isn't just for show! (a long-running nickname for Nintendo consoles that crush third-party sales)
    124AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:36
    Re: #9
    It's not 'killing' anything — it's just that stuff sells fine as long as it's not a 'blockbuster.'
    13AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:58
    Feels like the first time in 700 years… (a stock 5ch exaggeration for 'ages')
    31AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:01
    Re: #13
    Go back to hell, you 'dog-made blockbuster.' (mocking wordplay swapping 犬/dog into 大作/blockbuster, jabbing at hyped third-party titles)
    15AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:59
    Average person: 'I'd buy it on Switch 2 if it were good, but it's clearly an inferior port, so I won't.'

    That's just the truth.
    37AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:01
    Re: #15
    'What's a PlayStation?' That's the reality (lol). People go on about it being 'downgraded,' but to average folks who only know Nintendo (and don't care about anything else), there's no comparison to even make, lol
    16AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:59
    Maybe after actually playing games that get hyped as 'masterpieces' on other platforms, people ended up convinced that Nintendo's own games are just more fun after all.
    27AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:00
    Re: #16
    Happens all the time with PS games too — a mass free trial exposes the quality, and then 'nobody plays it even for free.'
    36AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:01
    It's because they all ignored the original Switch, right? Elden Ring is a port arriving 4 years late.
    That's the whole story — PlayStation's edge is fading even in third-party 'blockbusters.' It'll eventually get overtaken there too, just like with Falcom and Atelier games.
    71AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:17
    Re: #36
    On top of that, third parties are probably realizing they can't expect new users to come to PS anymore.
    39AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:02
    First of all, just ditch the game-key cards already. (Switch 2 cartridges that are often just download vouchers, not the actual game data)
    130AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:38
    Re: #39
    Hyperdimension Neptunia isn't on a key card, you know? Go buy it!
    45AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:06
    Re: #37
    So it's simply that nobody's interested, huh…
    78AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:19
    Re: #45
    Because it's not a Nintendo game, that's why.
    51AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:09
    Re: #1
    It's because Nintendo's own games are more fun and better known 😃
    52AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:11
    Re: #51
    There's no title on Switch 2 that's outsold Elden Ring's 30 million copies.
    58AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:15
    To begin with, that's just how later ports go — hitting 10% of the original version's sales counts as a pass, 20% is a triumph.
    For Switch-to-PlayStation ports it's even worse, with some cases coming in under 1%, let alone 10%.

    It's true the day-and-date launches like Resident Evil and Onimusha feel underwhelming, but those are franchises born and raised on PlayStation, so building up an audience takes time.
    I just hope Capcom takes the long view here.
    66AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:16
    Re: #58
    But Pragmata isn't even a PlayStation-born franchise, and it still didn't sell on Switch 2, did it?
    67AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:16
    Re: #56
    That's like saying you can't even count to 40. Don't be ridiculous.
    72AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:18
    Re: #67
    Well, you've only got 20 fingers (and toes) to count with.
    69AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:17
    Re: #1
    Both Elden Ring and Onimusha showed a 'red' (high) first-week sell-through rate in Famitsu's data, so it's certain they sold above what the makers expected.
    88AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:22
    Re: #69
    This is a common misconception, but 'good sell-through rate = sold as well as the game company expected' isn't actually correct.
    Shipment volume is driven by retailer orders, so even if it matches retailers' expectations, that doesn't mean the game company is satisfied.
    87AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:22
    I'll just say it: Persona 4 ended up roughly 50/50 between platforms, and if Persona 6 launches day-and-date, I think the Switch version would actually outsell the rest.
    95AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:25
    Re: #87
    No way. Persona 3 Reload on Switch 2 already flopped miserably.
    96AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:25
    Re: #95
    With RPGs specifically, the Switch version tends to have the advantage in day-and-date releases, so you can't call it impossible.
    104AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:30
    Re: #96
    If it's day-and-date, PC wins for sure. Persona 3 Reload on Switch 2 was a miserable flop at just 6,000 copies, while the Steam version sold as much as 1.9 million.
    108AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:32
    Re: #104
    Wait, was Persona 3 actually a day-and-date release?
    110AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:33
    Re: #104
    I looked it up and it was totally different from that. Did I mix it up with something else?
    99AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:27
    People who wanted to play Elden Ring already played it on PC or PlayStation.
    103AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:29
    Re: #99
    PS5: Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree Edition — 24,012 units (sitting unsold on shelves everywhere)
    Switch 2: Elden Ring Tarnished Edition — 27,604 units (sold out nationwide, #1 on the Nintendo Store download chart)

    Lol, PS5 didn't even win the day-and-date comparison to begin with.
    111AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:33
    Re: #108
    Within about half a year, they put out a port so obviously botched and half-hearted you could tell just from the pre-release info.
    116AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:34
    Re: #111
    Sorry, I don't know about Persona 3 since it wasn't day-and-date — I'm talking about day-and-date releases here.
    114AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:33
    Re: #108
    Persona 3 wasn't day-and-date, but Persona 5 Royal's remaster was — and PC won by a landslide.
    118AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:34
    Re: #114
    What's this 'Persona 5 remaster' you're talking about?
    119AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:34
    Compared to PlayStation, where several Story of Seasons titles that normally sell 100,000-300,000 units domestically end up with sales on later ports so low they're barely even trackable, at least these Switch 2 ports have numbers you can actually see — that alone makes them better off.
    126AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:36
    Re: #119
    More chances for people to try it out isn't a bad thing, I guess, but did it actually accomplish anything? I wonder if it added even 10,000 units worldwide.
    129AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:37
    Ah, the Royal remaster, right — I thought you meant there was a remaster of the original vanilla Persona 5.
    131AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:38
    Re: #129
    Glad you finally get it. So now you understand it's impossible for Switch 2 to win even in a day-and-date release, right?

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The “60,000 units” and “30,000 units” figures cited in the thread mainly come from domestic retail weekly sales tallies such as Famitsu’s data, and it’s worth noting these don’t include digital downloads or overseas sales. Switch 2’s installed base in Japan far exceeds the PS5’s, creating a structural advantage for Nintendo titles that isn’t visible from raw sales comparisons alone. Also, the “first-week sell-through rate” is the ratio of units sold to units shipped to stores, and a high sell-through rate doesn’t necessarily mean sales met the publisher’s own expectations — a point raised in the thread (post 88) that holds up as industry practice. Throughout the thread, posters repeatedly corrected each other over whether titles were actually released day-and-date, a recurring example of how conflating different release formats derails these kinds of discussions.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry, “Geha”) thread “[Mystery] Why don’t third-party blockbusters sell on Switch 2…“

  • Final Boss Reveal Timing: Early, Mid, or Late? 5ch Debates It Hard

    On 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyo G” board, a thread heated up over which is best for RPGs and manga: a final boss who’s “there from the very start,” one “whose true identity is revealed midway through,” or one who “shows up abruptly right at the very end.” Posters traded opinions citing specific titles like Lost Odyssey, Final Fantasy VI, JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure, and Dragon Quest. The “revealed midway” pattern won the most support as the “safe bet,” while plenty of voices also praised the structure where an enemy commander visible from early on simply turns out to be the true final boss. On the topic of an ally character secretly being the final boss, names likely to spark debate came up too — like Rinoa (FF8).

    1AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:47
    Midway reveal is the safest bet, honestly
    3AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:48
    "The enemy commander who's there from the start just turns out to be the true final boss"
    10AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:53
    Re: #3
    That's exactly how Lost Odyssey did it
    17AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:55
    Re: #3
    Kefka and Kalra are good examples of that working well
    7AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:51
    "This guy's the root cause from the start" types are usually just the opening act
    9AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:52
    Re: #7
    If the apparent root cause just stays the final boss, it might actually feel refreshingly novel
    116AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:38
    Re: #7
    If Masa from Higanjima (a horror manga about a vampire-infested island) turned out NOT to be the final boss, the whole series' reputation would flip overnight
    13AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:53
    You've gotta drop the name at least a little beforehand, or you end up like Mildrath (Dragon Quest V's final boss, who appears with almost no buildup) — people just go "wait, who?"
    21AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:57
    Re: #13
    Yeah, like having the current apparent-final-boss casually mention there's someone above him
    16AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:55
    If it all wraps up as neatly as Hoshin Engi (Soul Hunter), a late reveal is fine, but things rarely go that smoothly.
    Don't a lot of recent works just show the final boss early on?
    31AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:00
    Re: #16
    Even Joka (Hoshin Engi's true final boss) had a bit of foreshadowing, at least
    18AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:55
    A crazy-strong boss showing up out of nowhere at the end can work too, depending on how it's handled
    20AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:56
    Re: #18
    Pepsiman lmaooo
    23AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:57
    Re: #18
    Danganronpa V3, maybe
    22AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:57
    Saluin had that classic Seven Heroes final-boss vibe, then suddenly turns into some baffling "Destroyer" entity
    36AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:01
    Re: #22
    That's the avatar of destruction summoned by the demon nobles
    26AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:58
    They hint at it the whole time and then it just never shows up
    28AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:59
    Re: #26
    That's just getting cancelled, isn't it!
    38AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:02
    Re: #26
    In a way, Hajime no Ippo counts as that too
    39AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:03
    Re: #26
    El Shaddai, maybe?
    29AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:59
    There from the start: DIO
    Revealed midway: Yoshikage Kira
    Shows up at the very end: Wonder of U
    37AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:02
    Re: #29
    People often say it's a shame the JoJolion villain wasn't brought in from partway through instead
    43AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:05
    Games where the protagonist becomes the final boss are always masterpieces
    46AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:06
    Re: #43
    Well, Live A Live and NieR count too
    49AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:10
    Re: #43
    Utawarerumono, maybe?
    51AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:10
    Re: #43
    Depending on the route, GTA V too
    61AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:18
    Quests to stop some big revival pretty much always fail, huh
    69AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:19
    Re: #61
    "We stopped it!" doesn't exactly make for dramatic tension…
    72AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:20
    Re: #61
    Well, if you actually stopped it, the story would just end…
    78AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:21
    Re: #61
    Occasionally you get "we stopped the FULL revival — if it had completed, we'd have been finished," and I love that one
    63AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:18
    Stuff like "a being formed from all of humanity's malice gathering together" is such a letdown, right?
    65AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:19
    Re: #63
    Hey, don't trash-talk Persona
    77AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:21
    Re: #63
    Just once I'd like it to be everyone's goodwill gathering together instead
    89AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:26
    Are there any cases of an ally who's there from the start turning out to be the final boss?
    90AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:26
    Re: #89
    Utawarerumono
    91AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:27
    Re: #89
    This'll start a flame war, but — Rinoa (FF8)
    94AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:28
    Re: #89
    It felt more like an exhibition match, but Naruto's final fight was against Sasuke too
    98AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:31
    What about a final boss who's around from early on but just keeps fleeing over and over?
    104AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:34
    Re: #98
    As long as you can tolerate the "gets hit with poison bugs and takes a hole clean through him every time but somehow survives" routine, it's fine, right?
    119AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:40
    Re: #98
    Just who is this "Naraku" guy anyway? (a nod to Inuyasha's villain, infamous for endlessly fleeing and regenerating)
    122AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:43
    Re: #98
    Baikinman, Bowser, Dr. Wily — those are all perfectly good examples

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The timing of a final boss’s reveal is a classic fork in narrative construction, generally splitting into two types: the “plain sight” pattern, where the mastermind visible from early on simply turns out to be the true enemy, and the “twist” pattern, where an unexpected entity appears at the end. Though it wasn’t raised in the thread, the twist pattern risks feeling like a “bolted-on villain” if the foreshadowing isn’t handled carefully, while the plain-sight pattern carries the mirror-image weakness of struggling to sustain tension through to the finale if the early impression is too weak. The “revealed midway” pattern earned praise as the “safe bet” likely because it’s easier to balance the amount of foreshadowing against the impact of the reveal. The titles cited — Lost Odyssey, FF6, JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure, and others — are mostly works that have been out or running for a long time, and the relative lack of references to recent titles suggests this classification itself may be a somewhat dated framework.

    ※This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “Final boss: “there from the start,” “revealed midway,” or “shows up at the very end” — so which one’s actually correct?.”

  • One Piece: Zoro Dons His Bandana and Awakens Conqueror’s Haki — Fans Split Over Art Quality and Power Creep

    In the latest chapter of One Piece, Zoro ties on his bandana and unleashes Conqueror’s Haki, sparking a flood of reactions on 5ch’s Nanidemo Jikkyo G board. Rather than excitement, the thread was dominated by complaints about the art — “the direction has gotten worse,” “it used to hit harder with one big splash panel” — along with pointed remarks that Conqueror’s Haki has become so common among characters that it now amounts to a “bargain sale.” Commenters also noted the still-blurry distinction between Armament and Observation Haki, and voiced concern over creator Eiichiro Oda’s health amid his frequent hiatuses — the thread blending genuine excitement with a sense of fatigue toward the long-running series.

    5AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:49
    The art direction has really gone downhill, no joke
    10AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:51
    Re: #5
    Back in the day this would've been one big, impactful splash panel
    8AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:50
    If he's tying on the bandana, the cape just seems like it'd get in the way
    9AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:51
    Back in the day guys like Mimura and Sanma wouldn't shut up about One Piece on TV (famous comedians who were vocal fans) — now nobody even brings it up
    11AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:51
    Powers up just by putting on a bandana!
    So cool 🤮
    13AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:51
    Devil Fruit powers barely matter anymore, it's all turned into a Haki stat-check. If you don't have Conqueror's Haki you're useless in a fight
    17AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:53
    Re: #13
    Probably meant as a buff for Devil Fruit users — otherwise nobody would need crewmates
    14AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:52
    He's had a lot of breaks lately, hope Odacchi's doing okay (affectionate nickname for creator Oda)
    15AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:53
    Guess all it takes is tying on a bandana and glaring hard to bring out your Haki
    16AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:53
    Conqueror's Haki users are a dime a dozen now, why's everyone acting so terrified?
    19AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:54
    With an ending like this, shouldn't the last panel just be Zoro's cool bandana face and then 'see you next week'?
    20AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:55
    'You can't even land a hit on the late-game dungeon bosses without Conqueror's Haki' — sounds like a broken game
    32AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:00
    Re: #20
    Like Joy Boy did, Haki can apparently be stored in objects — so maybe Usopp could load Luffy's Conqueror's Haki into a bullet and snipe with it? Probably
    22AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:56
    I got more hyped watching Chopper pop a Rumble Ball
    75AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:21
    Re: #22
    Fishman Island arc
    Rubber-boy: "That's nothing but doping!!" (mocking nickname for Luffy)
    23AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:56
    Sorry, when's the one eye finally supposed to awaken?
    24AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:56
    There's something stuck in his left shoulder area
    A hose?
    26AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:56
    Yikes! (pissing himself)
    Is this really what used to be Japan's top-selling manga? Genuinely sad
    27AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:57
    Aaaaaaah
    Shaking
    Trembling
    Tears and snot gushing everywhere
    ⭐︎To be continued!!! Next issue: on hiatus
    28AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:57
    Wait, if taking it off makes him weaker anyway, why'd he ever take the bandana off in the first place?
    30AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:59
    Can he not just end a chapter on a cool note for once, seriously 😅
    Guess Oda still thinks Enel's goofy faces are eternally funny
    31AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:00
    I think this one's better than usual, though the old 'trying to cut through steel' scene was cooler.
    Let's pretend Somars never happened
    33AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:00
    Also, forcing a reaction like that out of someone he already drew blood on just makes the swordsman look worse.
    Imagine if Mr. 1 had freaked out in fear right before getting sliced apart — that would've ruined the whole scene
    34AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:01
    The Knights of God are way too small-time.
    How's the story even going to handle the villains in the Laugh Tale arc…?
    35AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:01
    It's basically a Conqueror's Haki bargain sale at this point.
    Couldn't they have at least kept it limited to the top of each faction?
    36AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:01
    The scared guy's face looks like something out of a Maniwa Kazuo comic (manga artist known for exaggerated grotesque expressions)
    37AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:02
    Wasn't Zoro supposed to be the Armament Haki guy and Sanji the Observation Haki guy?
    38AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:03
    Re: #37
    I assumed they'd each master their own type and cover for each other in battle
    44AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:04
    Re: #37
    Usopp could've specialized in Observation Haki too — just coating his bullets with Haki would already make him decently useful
    50AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:06
    Why does this end almost exactly the same way the last chapter did?
    57AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:10
    Re: #50
    Probably came up with several versions of the same cliffhanger and couldn't decide which one to use
    64AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:15
    There's no way the old sense of style is coming back at this point, so let's just wrap it up already
    66AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:17
    Re: #64
    Seriously, I wish the pacing would pick up — at this rate who knows how many more years this'll drag on
    67AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:17
    Who's this pathetic, grubby old man crying like that?
    Also he just looks like he's acting tough against some nobody
    71AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:19
    Re: #67
    He's a senior officer under the final boss's crew
    72AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:19
    Re: #67
    Well, his base strength is probably around Jinbe's level — he's just buffed by Im-sama
    110AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:42
    I get Armament and Observation Haki, but what actually is Conqueror's Haki supposed to be at this point?
    115AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:44
    Re: #110
    I used to think it was a special-bloodline Haki, like a 'king's vessel' or something tied to the Will of D. — but now that Zoro can use it, it's just become a confusing mess of a concept
    117AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:44
    Re: #110
    Didn't they just call it 'presence/intimidation'?
    120AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:45
    Re: #110
    Apparently it's about 'the self,' lol
    Honestly it's just psyching yourself up, wrapping yourself in an aura, and punching or slashing — there's basically no difference from Armament Haki
    And of course nobody explains why that alone can cut through an immortal's heart

    Background and Talking Points

    Conqueror’s Haki was originally portrayed as a rare trait held by only a handful of figures, such as Whitebeard and Shanks, but in recent years more and more characters — even within the Straw Hat crew itself — have gained the ability, leading commenters to describe the setting as having inflated to the point of a “Conqueror’s Haki bargain sale.” The fact that the story keeps moving forward without clearly explaining the difference between Armament and Observation Haki has fed complaints that the series has become “less a battle of abilities and more a Haki stat-check.” On the art side, many readers unfavorably compared this chapter’s paneling to the impact of past full-page splash panels, calling the direction “degraded,” compounded by ongoing worries over Eiichiro Oda’s health given his frequent hiatuses. Zoro’s bandana has long served as a visual cue for a Haki awakening, but this time many readers felt that on its own it fell flat.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nanidemo Jikkyo G) thread “Zoro Finally Ties On His Bandana and Masters Conqueror’s Haki!!!!!!”

  • Individual JGBs vs. NISA? Cautious Savers Debate Asset-Building on 5ch

    The thread kicked off with a simple question aimed at people who say “investing scares me because I might lose money”: why not just buy individual government bonds, which come with a principal guarantee? Posters pointed out that these bonds pay higher interest than an ordinary savings account and won’t lose principal unless Japan’s finances collapse entirely — though others pushed back, arguing the interest gap isn’t that big and the paperwork hassle isn’t worth the modest payoff. As the discussion rolled on, it branched into monthly investing in All-Country index funds (オルカン) and the S&P 500, bank time-deposit campaigns, and how much to keep as an emergency fund, with the conversation trending toward a consensus: mix bonds, savings, and stocks according to your own risk tolerance.

    1AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:07
    Unless Japan's finances completely collapse, you get your money back — super low risk. And if Japan DID go bankrupt, the yen would be worthless paper anyway, so bonds are basically savings accounts on steroids.
    Plus the interest is like 5-6x what most ordinary savings accounts pay.
    Other than being locked in for a year, it's genuinely great — why isn't everyone buying these?
    8AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:13
    Maybe it's that it's a bit of a hassle for not much payoff. That's the downside, I guess.
    9AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:13
    Re: #8
    If you put in a decent amount, the difference really adds up.
    11AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:14
    Pretty much every self-employed person maxes out their Small Enterprise Mutual Aid plan (小規模企業共済, a tax-advantaged retirement fund for sole proprietors) anyway — that's basically their investment right there.
    13AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:15
    Re: #11
    But most people in the world aren't self-employed.
    16AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:16
    Re: #9
    I guess the logic is: people willing to deal with the hassle go for stocks since they pay off more, and people who hate hassle won't bother with bonds either if the payoff's only slight.
    22AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:18
    Re: #16
    Hmm.
    Forget the hassle-haters, but even for the stock-picking crowd, I'd still recommend buying at least a little.
    I'm in All-Country index funds (オルカン) myself, and sure, that'll outperform, but I hold a solid chunk of bonds too just to keep my mental steady during a crash.
    Panic-selling wipes out everything you gained.
    23AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:20
    Aren't banks getting nervous with everyone piling into investing?
    My retired mom brought home a flyer saying NISA's too confusing for her at this point so she wants a time deposit instead — 3 million yen for 3 years at about 1.9%. No risk of losing principal and a guaranteed +300k, that's actually pretty solid.
    She might end up out-earning me, and I only just started NISA this year.
    24AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:21
    Re: #23
    Bank time deposits have gotten better lately too, though sometimes that rate includes a promotional campaign bonus.
    26AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:22
    Re: #23
    It's decent, but for something like a 3-year horizon, individual bonds actually beat a time deposit.
    Time deposits are better suited for 6-month or 1-year terms.
    25AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:22
    The truth is most people just aren't that interested in money.
    27AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:23
    Re: #25
    Really?
    Feels like talk about investing and saving has been picking up lately.
    28AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:23
    Re: #24
    Yeah, it included the campaign bonus.
    Looks like the condition was opening a new account.
    I did research the bank first before giving my okay.
    A friend told me I should just borrow that 3 million and build a portfolio to grow it myself, but that felt too risky, so I had her put it in a time deposit instead.
    You never know how much longer a parent's going to be around, after all.
    33AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:25
    Re: #28
    I think that's the right call.
    Even with a campaign bonus, if the conditions line up for you, it's a good deal.
    29AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:24
    This'll be my first time getting in.
    Throwing in a few hundred thousand yen I made off semiconductor stocks.
    40AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:27
    Re: #29
    Nice.
    Shore up your defense too and build up that grip strength 💪 ("握力," forum slang for the willpower to hold a position through a downturn instead of panic-selling)
    34AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:25
    I'm a second-generation business owner, but among my freelancer friends it's all "Mutual aid fund? What's that? Tax savings sound like a pain," kind of guys.
    42AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:28
    Re: #34
    Uh…
    Are they rich or just completely indifferent?
    35AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:25
    I think it's fine to take on risk with NISA while you're still working — if you lose money, you can just keep working to cover it.
    Shifting to defensive assets is a conversation for after you retire.
    43AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:28
    Re: #35
    My risk tolerance is low, so I buy bonds too, for the grip strength (holding power).
    Of course I'm buying All-Country funds as well.
    36AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:25
    Even at 5x an ordinary savings rate, that's just 5x 0.1% —
    only 0.5%. An All-Country index fund gets you 3%+.
    39AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:27
    Re: #36
    Which bank has a 0.1% rate?
    My local regional bank pays 0.4% on ordinary savings.
    And right now you can get about 1.9% on a 3-year bond and 2.2% on a 5-year one.
    41AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:27
    At this point buying these "crap bonds" (ウン国債, a pun on うんこ/"poop" + 国債/"bonds") is on the same level as buying Chinese stocks.
    44AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:28
    Re: #41
    Chinese stocks don't come with a principal guarantee though…
    72AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:42
    Keeping money in a bank has its own risk, you know —
    and I don't mean the deposit-insurance payout cap (ペイオフ) kind of risk.
    73AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:43
    Re: #72
    What kind of risk is that?
    Seriously, fill me in.
    77AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:44
    Re: #72
    Because inflation is expected to keep rising over the long run.
    74AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:43
    The thread title (スレタイ) is already something, but
    the All-Country/S&P zealots scare me too.

    Life is long and there will be times you need cash,
    yet they're assuming you can keep contributing for 10+ years straight.
    Not many people have the mental fortitude to keep buying in while watching their losses grow during a downturn.
    76AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:44
    Re: #74
    This is seriously true.
    If you don't have the mental bandwidth for it, I think you should raise your bond allocation and keep more in savings.
    84AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:47
    Re: #74
    Normally you wouldn't put your emergency fund, or your kids' tuition savings if you have kids, into investments anyway.
    You buy All-Country funds assuming your money's locked up long-term.
    75AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:44
    The yen itself is the thing that's crashed the hardest, if you think about it.
    79AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:45
    Re: #75
    Ordinary savings accounts are the real danger.
    Go with All-Country funds or bonds — or at minimum a time deposit with a decent rate.
    81AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:46
    Re: #75
    There's also the risk of the U.S. forcing a stronger yen on us, so it's not so simple anymore.
    98AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:53
    Re: #75
    Buy low, sell high is the basic rule — so if not now, while the yen's cheap, when?
    82AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:46
    Honestly, point-hunting (ポイ活, stacking up credit-card/loyalty reward points) is safer.
    3% a month with zero risk.
    85AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:47
    Re: #82
    If we're going there, a side hustle pays even better with a higher return rate.
    But we're talking about ordinary asset management here.
    87AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:48
    Re: #82
    You should factor this in too —
    2% from a variable-rate individual bond,
    plus 2% from a Mizuho Rakuten card, and just living normally nets you 4%.
    92AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:52
    You should wait a bit longer on bonds — the rate's going to climb.
    94AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:52
    Re: #92
    Maybe, but there's also a non-zero chance it drops, so I'll just buy in now while I can.
    97AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:53
    Re: #92
    That's exactly why you go with the 10-year variable-rate type.

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    Individual government bonds (such as the 10-year variable-rate type) are issued by the state, so the principal is protected, and recent market rates run around 1.9% for the 3-year bond and 2.2% for the 5-year — well above what most banks pay on ordinary savings (roughly 0.1-0.4%). That said, they generally can’t be cashed in for the first year, and the payoff is small unless you’re investing a substantial sum. NISA and All-Country index funds (オルカン, tracking a broad global stock index), on the other hand, offer no principal guarantee but open the door to long-term capital gains and a tax-free allowance — which takes the mental discipline to keep contributing even while your position is underwater. The thread’s central disagreement was which of these to build around: bonds that are guaranteed but grow slowly, or stocks that can grow more but can also fall. Most participants were converging on the idea that combining both, weighted by age and whether you already have an emergency fund, is the sensible approach. The conversation also touched on how to value dollar-denominated assets amid the weak yen — a reminder that this isn’t a topic with one simple right answer.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G board) thread “Mystery faction: ‘Investing is dangerous! I won’t do NISA because I might lose money!’ — So why not just buy government bonds?.”

  • Morning Musume. vs. Hinatazaka46 vs. Tokimeki Sendenbu: September 30 Same-Day Single Showdown Sparks Sales-Ranking Frenzy

    On September 30, 2026, multiple groups — Morning Musume.’26, Hinatazaka46, Chou Tokimeki Sendenbu, CANDY TUNE, and OWV — are releasing new singles on the same day. The Hello!Project board has been buzzing with predictions for the Oricon daily rankings: Morning Musume. has stayed within the weekly top 3 ever since introducing individual handshake events, but this time some fans are predicting a 4th-place finish. The debate has gone beyond simple ranking rivalry, spilling into arguments over the “padded” structure of CD sales and how much a business model built around bonus events and fan meet-and-greets can really be trusted as an indicator of actual popularity. For Tokimeki Sendenbu, who are heading toward disbandment, the focus is on whether a “farewell boost” will kick in.

    1AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:00
    Wonder how the rankings will shake out
    3AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:11
    Haven't bought one in a while, but apparently Morning Musume.'s year-labeled era singles (the '26, '25, etc. releases) always settle in the 80,000–100,000 range no matter how bad the song is
    15AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:38
    Re: #3
    That range is basically fixed. When the group's stable and the song's good and they run more events, the ceiling can go up to nearly 140,000.
    Unlike other groups, almost nobody here stacks multiple copies, so it stays low and stable — for better or worse.
    6AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:14
    Do the other idol groups run bonus-event handshake sessions too?
    8AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:19
    Could this end up the worst release-day daily ranking (4th place) in recent memory???
    10AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:23
    Daily 4th-place prediction

    09/30: Hinatazaka46 (5 versions), CANDY TUNE (3 versions), Chou Tokimeki Sendenbu (3 versions + 5 solo jacket versions), Morning Musume.'26 (5 versions), OWV (3 versions + FC edition), Mugendai MyuType (2 versions / + live-ticket lottery entry / BanG Dream! tie-in), millsage (+ live-ticket lottery entry / BanG Dream! tie-in), Ikka Dumb Rock! (+ live-ticket lottery entry / BanG Dream! tie-in),
    Appare!, 04 Limited Sazabys, Ueda Reina (2 versions / anime tie-in), Kumada Akane & Masui Yuka (2 versions / Precure tie-in), XngHan&Xoul (formerly of RIIZE, 2 versions), go!go!vanillas (3 versions / anime tie-in)
    24AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:45
    Re: #10
    What rank actually counts as "legit" then, lol
    26AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:47
    Re: #24
    Every Morning Musume. single since they started individual handshake events has made the weekly top 3, so top 3 is the bar. This one's predicted at 4th, though.
    11AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:24
    Is OWV strong too?
    Could this actually land at 5th place weekly?
    They've always kept numbers that beat everyone except the true heavyweight acts — but when this many heavyweights collide on the same release day…
    5th place would be a fittingly bleak symbol of the second dark age.
    12AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:29
    Is Tokisen really that strong?
    14AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:35
    Re: #12
    Even at baseline they're stronger than the current Morning Musume., and on top of that there's the disbandment boost.
    16AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:40
    Hinatazaka's fired up by their rivalry with Kawaii Lab (a production company known for heavy CD-stacking sales), so they might even hit a million copies if it comes down to it.
    That's a battle on a completely different level, way up in the clouds.
    19AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:41
    Re: #16
    CANDY TUNE's sales are minor league — they're no threat to Hinatazaka.
    17AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:40
    The idol market has genuinely gotten massive, hasn't it
    18AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:41
    Wouldn't be shocking if Kyanchu (CANDY TUNE's nickname) pulled in something like 500,000 copies too
    21AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:43
    102,753 — Morning Musume.'25 (2025/12/03)
    I figured there was no point keeping the "Love Machine Preservation Society" (devoted fans of their classic hit) going anymore, but honestly, still moving 100k+ copies is kind of impressive.
    No special push, just business as usual, and they've still got a hardcore fanbase that strong.
    22AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:45
    Furuppa (FRUITS ZIPPER's nickname) is already moving around 500,000 copies, which means Kawaii Lab has the formula down cold — exactly how many release events and bonus-event sessions it takes to sell how many tens of thousands of copies.
    23AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:45
    Top 4 is the acceptable cutoff, right?
    5th place is not okay.
    28AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:50
    Re: #23
    "Pyoko Pyoko Ultra" debuted at No. 9 on Oricon.
    27AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:49
    Re: #26
    No, that's not what I meant — I'm asking, if you exclude the multi-version releases, where would a normal single-version release actually rank.
    30AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:51
    Re: #27
    There's basically nobody left in Japan buying CDs for the music itself anymore — people who actually want to listen just stream it.
    31AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:51
    Asked an AI about past ranking history
    (no idea if it's accurate)

    2020 — 68th single: 2nd
    2020 — 69th single: 2nd
    2021 — 70th single: 2nd
    2022 — 71st single: 2nd
    2022 — 72nd single: 1st
    2023 — 73rd single: 2nd
    2024 — 74th single: 1st
    2025 — 75th single: 2nd
    2025 — 76th single: 1st
    2026 — 77th single: ???
    32AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:53
    Re: #1
    For Tokisen fans, it's all about the music quality, so this kawaii-style song doesn't really matter to them.
    All they're hyped about is the next single: Asano Naoshi's emo-rock track and Tsukada Kohei's tear-jerker melody. That's really the whole story.
    MUTEKI DEAD TOKIMEKI✨🏇🌈@muteki_dead1
    https://x.com/muteki_dead1/status/2103791199144558955
    ■ Yappari Kimi ni Kimeta♡ ("I Knew It, I Choose You♡")

    → The go-to songwriter for M!LK, SHACHI, Chou Tokkyu, and other Stardust acts — surprisingly, this is his first-ever track for Tokisen: Asano Naoshi
    ■ Isshou Seishun, Isshou Munekyun ("Forever Young, Forever Heart-Throbbing")

    → The legendary hit machine behind =LOVE, ≠ME, and ≒JOY (the Kawaii Lab idol trio) — also his first track for Tokisen, of course: Tsukada Kohei
    ☆ Two absolutely godly composers — this is a god-tier lineup.

    Since they're disbanding, Tokisen fans don't need to worry about the numbers anymore.
    They don't need a kawaii song at all — as long as they get one emo, cool track made just for the hardcore fans, that's all that matters.
    34AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:57
    Between the Oda graduation boost, the Makino graduation boost, and the 18th-gen joining boost, this should sell better than usual.
    35AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:59
    Re: #34
    The talk-event tickets aren't selling well, so it looks rough.

    16 Anonymous 2026/09/15 (Tue) 14:14:57.24 0
    76th single, round-6 talk event: 210 slots sold out
    77th single, round-6 talk event: 170 slots sold out

    76th single round-6 sellout rate: 61% ≈ 210/340 slots
    77th single round-6 sellout rate: 40% ≈ 170/416 slots
    36AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:59
    You guys need to wake up already — handshake-driven CD sales numbers don't mean anything.
    Nobody owns a CD player anymore, nobody listens to CDs; the CD is just a bonus tacked onto the event, so the sales figure is really just a count of how many times they ran that event.
    In other words, it's a meaningless little bubble that nobody outside the fandom even knows exists. Get some perspective, idiots.
    Arguing over who's "above" or "below" in a world that's purely about how many handshake events you ran and how many copies each individual otaku stacked — it's ugly.
    37AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:02
    Re: #36
    Actually recouping money matters more than just going viral on social media, though.
    Even McDonald's competes on burgers sold, not on how many views its posts get.
    38AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:04
    Re: #37
    Honestly, my only image of McDonald's is a company that loves pandering to internet memes.
    43AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:08
    Re: #37
    Going viral on social media matters way more, honestly.
    Big jobs start rolling in on their own, the money multiplies, and both awareness and popularity climb.
    Meanwhile, to sell CDs that only insider fans ever buy, the agency pours in huge amounts of venue-rental money, time, and labor — and bragging about hitting No. 1 on Oricon or Billboard doesn't raise name recognition anymore and doesn't even turn a profit.
    39AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:04
    Re: #37
    In that case it's ticket sales and merch that matter more than CDs — CDs don't turn a profit.
    41AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:07
    If you're saying CDs are unnecessary and ticket sales alone are enough, then you wouldn't even need to release new songs anymore.
    That's basically the enka world.
    Though Up-Front was kind of already that type of company to begin with.
    48AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:12
    Re: #41
    Which is exactly why just putting out digital singles is enough — and honestly, that's basically what's happening already.
    CDs don't make money anymore; they just run at a loss.
    The agencies still treating CDs as priority number one are incompetent operations clinging to past glory with old-fashioned thinking — that's the real danger.
    42AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:08
    New single releases are down to once a year now.
    44AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:09
    Re: #42
    Apparently this is the first time since their major debut that Morning Musume. has put out only one CD release in a year.
    49AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:13
    Apparently HYBE's earnings forecast is set to be an all-time high.


    Citing BTS's return to activity and growth from younger IPs, SK Securities projects HYBE will post record results this year — revenue of 5.1 trillion won (roughly 590 billion yen) and operating profit of 301.8 billion won (roughly 35 billion yen). That said, reflecting the drop in valuations across the entertainment sector, it cut its target share price from 350,000 won to 290,000 won (roughly 34,000 yen), while maintaining a "buy" rating.
    52AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:15
    Re: #49
    That profit's way too thin, lol
    53AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:16
    Re: #48
    Even Kawaii Lab, the group with the most momentum right now, still puts out physical CDs after all.
    56AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:17
    Re: #53
    Kawaii Lab isn't "the group with the most momentum right now" anymore, though.
    62AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:23
    If all you care about is selling CDs, the AKB model is the right answer — buy one copy and you get a mini-live plus a guaranteed handshake.
    The tradeoff is that the live show's cost-performance takes a hit.
    63AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:24
    Re: #62
    If it's purely about sales volume, the K-pop lottery-ticket model wins. Japan does it too, but only among the major acts.

    Background and Key Points of Discussion

    A recurring theme in these same-day-release comparison threads is the gap between actual CD sales and Oricon rankings. Because of “stacking” — where a single hardcore fan buys multiple copies and formats just to get handshake tickets or bonus-event passes — Oricon rankings tend to reflect the purchasing power of a core fanbase chasing events rather than a group’s overall popularity across the wider market. Within the thread, comments like “there’s basically no one left in Japan buying CDs for the music” and “a digital single is enough” came up, reflecting how the CD format itself has shifted from being a music product to essentially a vessel for handshake tickets. Opinions were also split over the underlying business model — some argued “going viral on social media leads to more work,” while others countered that “live shows and merch are actually more profitable” — so which metric (CD sales, social media buzz, event attendance, or live/merch revenue) should define success was very much up for debate. One thing readers should be careful not to misread: the ranking predictions aren’t a direct, absolute measure of a group’s popularity — they’re heavily shaped by how many bonus events each group runs and the purchasing habits of their respective fanbases.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello!Project board) thread “Morning Musume. vs Hinatazaka vs Tokisen vs Kyanchu: Same-Day Single Release Showdown, September 30 Approaches.”

  • Former Miss UTokyo Stuffs Tissues Up Both Nostrils at Concert, Apologizes: ‘I Feel Bad for the Performers’

    Asa Kamiya (26), a TV personality and former Miss University of Tokyo, revealed on X that her nose started running during a classical concert, so she stuffed tissues into both nostrils to keep listening — and apologized afterward, explaining, “I feel bad for the performers.” This wasn’t a response to backlash; she volunteered the explanation herself. Reactions on 5channel were split between those who saw it as thoughtful — a way to avoid sniffling noises — and cooler responses along the lines of “Did she really need to announce this?” and “Is this even news?”

    Former Miss UTokyo: “I Stuffed Tissues in Both Nostrils…” — Explains and Apologizes After Attending Concert, “I Feel Bad for the Performers” – Entertainment: Nikkan Sports

    September 28, 2026, 10:05 AM

    Asa Kamiya (26), a former Miss University of Tokyo and TV personality currently enrolled in the university’s Graduate School of Public Policy, updated her X account by the 28th, revealing what happened while she was attending a classical concert.

    Source: nikkansports.com / Read the original article here

    4AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:06
    Not everything needs to be turned into a news article.
    7AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:07
    What even is this article.
    Like, so what?
    9AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:07
    Re: #1
    Oh, it was just a runny nose?
    I thought she meant she couldn't stand someone's body odor.
    11AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:08
    She's just listening, so she could've simply tilted her head back.
    12AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:09
    Wearing a mask over the stuffed nose would've worked fine.
    Actually, if you've got a cold, just don't go.
    22AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:15
    If she'd been sniffling loudly that'd be one thing, but what's actually wrong with this?
    24AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:15
    No matter how sharp you are mentally, if your parents never taught you basic social sense and manners, you end up doing stuff like this without a second thought.
    25AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:16
    Wouldn't just pinching her nose have been enough? Why stuff tissue in there?
    27AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:18
    That's basically "Sick White House syndrome" (a riff on "sick building syndrome").
    29AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:18
    I can't even tell where she is in the first photo — guess that makes me an old geezer.
    30AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:19
    Couldn't she have just stuffed tissue up her nose and worn a mask over it?
    31AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:19
    Re: #1
    Is Nikkan Sports really so short on stories that they cover every little tweet like this?
    There's no shortage of real news out there — are today's journalists just doing internet searches instead of hitting the field?
    It really is the end of an era (´・ω・`)
    33AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:20
    For a classical concert, this beats someone sniffling wetly through the whole thing by a mile.
    This should honestly become standard etiquette.
    34AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:21
    If it's a contagious illness, I'd rather she just skip it instead of pushing through.
    36AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:21
    If anything, isn't she just being considerate of the people around her instead of sniffling loudly?
    I've done the mask-and-tissue combo myself.
    37AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:22
    Lucky it was just a runny nose — if it were ear discharge, that'd be truly awful.
    38AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:23
    The concert would've gone on fine without her there,
    and she might've passed her cold to the people sitting nearby anyway.
    39AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:24
    Saying "I feel bad" is just her showing off how considerate she is —
    none of the performers even noticed in the first place.
    40AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:24
    If she'd tucked both ends of one tissue into her nostrils like a bull's nose ring, at least it would've gotten a laugh.
    41AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:25
    Sounds like a quick-witted, decent girl to me.
    42AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:26
    Why bother announcing this at all?
    Nobody cares, honestly.
    43AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:27
    If she really wanted to be considerate, she should've just posted that she couldn't make it to the concert.
    44AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:27
    Don't turn this into an article just because you're out of real stories.
    48AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:29
    Nobody even called her out, and yet she posted it herself — that's some serious attention-seeking (lol)
    56AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:34
    What you really need to watch out for at a concert is your phone's ringtone.
    If you haven't mastered airplane mode, you'll embarrass yourself badly.
    70AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:42
    Re: #56
    Just switch it to silent —
    actually, some people's alarms still go off even then,
    so just power it off.
    69AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:42
    She had to add "because my nose suddenly started running," or else people would ask why she came to the event with a cold in the first place.
    81AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:45
    Re: #69
    Yeah, if you're absorbed in the performance and glance over the audience only to spot a woman with tissues stuffed up her nose, you'd definitely crack up.

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    Asa Kamiya took part in the “Miss University of Tokyo Contest” while a student there, and after graduating has continued her career as a TV personality while attending the university’s Graduate School of Public Policy. This particular story centers on her voluntarily sharing — and apologizing for — a personal experience from a classical concert on X. What stands out is that she got ahead of any criticism, explaining the situation before anyone had actually called her out, and reactions split between people who found the whole announcement unnecessary (“Why post this at all?”) and those who saw some logic in wanting to avoid making sniffling noises. At classical concerts, sounds like sniffling or rustling clothing tend to stand out sharply during quiet passages, which makes this kind of etiquette debate a familiar one. Some comments veering into mockery of her background or looks have been left out of this roundup as personal attacks rather than genuine discussion. It’s also worth noting that quite a few commenters were skeptical this was newsworthy at all — a useful read on how audiences feel about this kind of lightweight celebrity story.

    *This article was compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5channel (Entertainment/Sports News+) thread “Former Miss UTokyo: “I Stuffed Tissues in Both Nostrils…” — Explains and Apologizes After Attending Concert, “I Feel Bad for the Performers”.”

  • PS5 Pro Lottery Sale Comes with Purchase Conditions — 5ch: “How Long Are They Gonna Keep This Scarcity Marketing Up?”

    On September 28, the Sony Store began accepting purchase applications for the PS5 Pro. The price is 137,980 yen (tax included), and if the number of applicants exceeds the planned number of units for sale, winners will be chosen by lottery. On 5ch, opinions were split between questions over why the console is still hard to find so long after launch, and debate over the fairness of a purchase requirement limiting eligibility to existing users who have logged at least 60 hours of play on PSN within the past year. Some saw it as an attempt to stop scalpers from buying up stock, while others countered that existing users who meet the requirement could still resell the console themselves.

    We are now accepting purchase applications for the PlayStation®5 Pro through the Sony Store, starting today, Monday, September 28.

    There are conditions for applying and purchasing. Please note in advance that if the number of applications exceeds the planned number of units for sale, winners will be selected by lottery.

    Source: x.com / Original post here

    3AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:07
    Suggested retail price

    137,980 yen (tax included)
    5AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:08
    How long are they gonna keep running this scarcity marketing scam, this garbage company?
    83AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:04
    Re: #5
    SSD and memory prices are insane right now
    I don't think this is just 'in the red,' it's probably way worse than that
    6AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:10
    Why are they dragging this out so long?
    How much time has passed since the Pro launched already?
    7AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:11
    Re: #6
    This is what real demand looks like
    8AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:11
    Scalpers will jump all over this, so there's no nightmare scenario where everyone wins the lottery! We'll be just fine.
    9AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:12
    I'm not defending scalpers even a little bit, but
    I still think scalpers have the right to choose their own merchandise too
    10AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:13
    Any scalper who picks something like this as their merchandise seriously has zero talent or taste
    11AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:13
    Even if you make a new account, apparently you need 60 hours of actual play logged by yesterday (through Sept 27), so it looks like you can only apply from an account that's actually been played on
    12AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:14
    Really glad I bought mine early
    PS5 Pro is the best lol
    13AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:15
    Why didn't you just buy one before it went out of stock?
    14AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:15
    Rudeya (used-game buyback shop) buyback price: 190,100 yen
    If you win the lottery, that's a 50,000 yen profit!!
    15AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:15
    Re: #2
    If the play time is a cumulative total over a year, they should make it like 180 hours 😠
    26AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:26
    Huh? You couldn't get one until now?
    28AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:28
    Re: #26
    There's been almost no stock coming in since around June
    That's why it's going for above retail (scalper markup)
    29AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:29
    Pretty sure the buyback price has climbed to 190,000 yen at this point
    36AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:33
    Re: #29
    Makes me want to suspect someone at Sony Computer Entertainment Japan is colluding with places like Rudeya
    34AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:32
    If GTA6 flops hard, it's all over, so this is quite a gamble
    35AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:33
    Re: #34
    You don't need to warp your thinking that badly just to invent a hypothetical that'll never happen
    38AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:36
    I think the requirement should be 600 hours
    I want it to properly end up in the hands of real core gamers
    55AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:44
    Re: #38
    Someone like that already owns one lol
    39AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:36
    Does something that's only sold about 370,000 units in Japan so far really need a lottery?
    Anyone who wanted one already bought it long ago — that's all this number really shows
    72AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:55
    Re: #39
    And most of that demand is from scalpers anyway
    43AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:37
    Is this play-time-restricted sales method copying Nintendo too?
    The Japan-only limited edition was the same way — pretty soon they'll probably adopt game key cards with a totally straight face
    47AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:39
    Re: #43
    Sounds like exactly the kind of thing they'd do for the PS6 — a USB key card lol
    44AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:38
    But even on the Pro it's still 30fps, right?
    45AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:39
    Re: #44
    Depends on the update, I guess
    They might lower the graphics and add a 60fps mode too
    56AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:45
    Re: #44
    They haven't even optimized it for the Pro
    It's seriously 'Pro (lol)' — a product for idiots who just want to feel superior
    53AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:44
    Aren't they doing a lottery sale for this one too?
    60AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:46
    Re: #53
    Took a whole month just to get 50 units lolololol
    59AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:46
    Re: #2
    There's no way an anti-Sony person meets conditions like this
    and anyone claiming they're just doing it for pocket money is probably lying too
    64AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:49
    Re: #63
    At that point they've gone way beyond just being a 'hater'
    except for super rare exceptions like Pokaoss (a notorious extreme anti-Sony poster)
    65AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:50
    Taking purchase applications through the Sony Store… are they seriously trying to abandon retail?
    71AnonymousSep 28, 2026 10:55
    Re: #65
    Retailers probably don't want this either
    it just draws in a swarm of garbage scalpers
    the margin on hardware sales is tiny to begin with, and now they get flooded with people who won't even buy games
    78AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:01
    Sony really loves this sales method, huh
    It's like they get a kick out of mocking us little people
    82AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:02
    Re: #78
    It's not like they're doing this because they enjoy it
    Their ideal is to ramp up production and sell them all off
    79AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:02
    Would selling to Rudeya net around 30,000 yen in profit?
    85AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:08
    Re: #79
    The buyback price might drop by the time it's delivered to you. Take anything for granted and you'll get burned

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The PS5 Pro has been chronically hard to find since its November 2024 launch, and posters in the thread testified that stock had all but dried up since around June. The newly introduced purchase requirement — logging at least 60 hours of play within the past year — appears designed to screen out applicants who aren’t existing users and are simply looking to resell. However, some pointed out that this doesn’t actually stop existing users who qualify from applying purely to flip the console, and skepticism about how effective the measure really is remains strong. Some posts attributed the shortage to rising costs from surging semiconductor and memory prices, but that’s an individual poster’s speculation, not an official explanation from Sony — worth keeping in mind. The claim that used buyback prices have climbed to around 190,000 yen is likewise just a rate quoted by certain resellers, one that could shift depending on supply and demand once sales end.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Hardware/Industry [“Geha”]) thread “PS5 Pro Limited Purchase Begins — Lottery Sale If Applications Exceed Planned Units.”