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The story
A “idols who can really sing” special put together for a TV Asahi music program featured a member of Juice=Juice from Hello! Project, while no one from Angerme, Morning Musume, or BEYOOOOONDS was selected. On 5ch’s Hello! Project board, opinions split over the reasoning behind the pick — whether it simply came down to name recognition, was a genuine evaluation of singing ability, or whether the social-media spread of Juice=Juice’s hit song “Moreme” helped push the selection.
What people said
There are groups with less name recognition than Angerme that got featured too
Though I think Tsubaki Factory sings better honestly (lol)
Makes you think Hello! Project otaku act like music connoisseurs but are mostly tone-deaf old men who can't even judge good singing from bad
I like CYNHN but let's be honest, they're underground, right? And they still got picked. If you exclude Oda since she was picked last time, you'd get Hirayama for Angerme, Nonaka for Morning Musume, and Nishida for BEYOOOOONDS — not really worth making a fuss over
It's been 6 years since then, and no one on Oda's level vocally has emerged in Morning Musume
Regarding EIGHT-JAM's 'Amazing Vocalists of the Reiwa Idol World' special
It seems Kasai Yui wasn't selected, so I'd like whoever's in charge of the selection to deepen their knowledge a bit more and reconsider…
They knew Oda was leaving and still didn't reinforce for it, that's the problem
Doing that would basically be admitting current Morning Musume has no diva at all
When they've got amazing raw talent like Ishikawa
Here's how outsiders actually react
This is exactly the kind of cheap image manipulation that gets Juice=Juice otaku hated
That's a lot of likes
Guess everyone out there feels the same way
Don't you dare crop out the part where Ishii's in the shot 😡😡
If it were image manipulation it wouldn't get this many likes
That's because Juice=Juice otaku are the ones liking it lol
Isn't the fact that praise comments for members outside Juice=Juice get no likes exactly what public opinion looks like?
Which one do you mean?
Someone other than Oda, Danbara, Inoue, or Takagi
Like, 6 years from now?
Since they're unknown, there's no way an offer would ever come in
This is from Kawabe, who personally went around pitching Juice=Juice's 'Moreme' to TV producers as 'this song is going massively viral'
Up-Front's own manager didn't even know the name, face, or contact info of the producers who cast for music shows
Before 'Moreme,' they weren't even sending CDs or Blu-rays to producers and directors, or sending concert invitations (they'd basically given up on the major TV music shows)
We already knew that from what Taima said
What Up-Front told Taima was basically:
'We don't know how to promote you'
'We have no connections with shows or producers'
'You'd be better off moving to an agency that does'
'We'll support you either way'
That's the gist of it
Hello! Project 'Singing Ability vs. Looks' chart
What are you even trying to accomplish posting such a bogus chart
So you're admitting their singing isn't actually that great
Juice=Juice otaku being honest for once lol
Especially when you think about where things stood this time last year
This is exactly it
Because of Inoue, 'bad singing AND bad looks' has become Hello! Project's image
Up until now the singing at least was somewhat recognized by the general public
Background and Key Points of This Discussion
Singing-ability specials like this tend to hinge on a TV station’s or producer’s personal connections and casting circumstances, and within the thread it was shared that the deciding factor behind Juice=Juice’s appearance may have been the social-media spread of their hit song “Moreme.” In the past, Morning Musume’s Oda Sakura was picked for a similar feature, and some pointed out that six years later, no member has emerged who’s seen as her vocal equal. Meanwhile, the thread’s disagreement never really resolves between fans of other groups who argue the pick came down to name recognition alone, and Juice=Juice fans who see the viral spread itself as proof the group is properly recognized — and it’s worth noting that the “like” counts and cropped screenshots presented as evidence aren’t the show’s official selection criteria, just impressions circulating on 5ch.
※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Isn’t it weird that a TV Asahi special on “idols who can really sing” has zero members from Angerme, Morning Musume, or BEYOOOOONDS?“.
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