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A thread titled ‘How do people in their 50s who are single actually make a living?’ on 5ch’s ‘Nandemo Jikkyo G’ board snowballed into a discussion about retirement savings and the cost of caring for aging parents. While some posters said they max out their NISA (Japan’s tax-free investment account) because they have nothing else to spend money on, others pointed out that even once a parent qualifies for a nursing home at Care Level 3 or higher, the actual wait can stretch on for a long time — it’s ‘not the kind of facility you can dump someone into whenever you feel like it.’ One poster reported paying a lawyer several hundred thousand yen just to formally renounce an inheritance, and the thread eventually spiraled into a full-blown argument over how reliable international happiness-ranking statistics really are.
What people said
Ah, I see.
So you use that money to outsource your parents' care, huh?
Once the parents can't support each other anymore, you just dump them in a nursing home and call it done.
You still need at least some money to dump them in one, though.
A nursing home isn't the kind of place you can dump someone into whenever you feel like it.
If you're clueless ("johaku") enough to panic and try to get them in only after you're already overwhelmed, you'll never escape home care for the rest of your life.
You'll have to quit your job, so you'd better be saving up now.
Your parents have their own money, don't they?
If your parents actually have money, you probably wouldn't be single.
Why's that, lol.
Did you time-travel here from the Showa era?
If you take care of your parents now, won't that put your own mind at ease later?
Well, obviously it costs money if you hire a lawyer.
If you'd done it all yourself, it would've only run a few thousand yen.
Sure, if you're as sharp as you are now, you could probably handle the paperwork yourself.
But isn't the system supposed to be set up so even elderly people living alone can manage it themselves?
You can't even get into a nursing home unless you're rated Care Level 3 or higher, so everyone's cutting it close.
Care Level 3 won't actually cut it in reality.
Even at Level 5 you still have to wait in line.
To shave any time off the waitlist, you basically need a track record — like attending a day-care service attached to the nursing home for at least 10 years.
Though I guess it's thanks to all the clueless ("johaku") people who think 'I'll just dump them in a home once it's unmanageable' that the wait's gotten even slightly shorter for the rest of us.
Sexual harassment, verbal abuse, violence, wandering off — they cause so many behavioral problems that staff don't want them.
Most nursing homes run on bare-minimum staffing, so demanding dementia patients, especially old men, end up with the lowest waitlist priority.
And since men die younger anyway, the government's basically fine with just leaving them, figuring they'll die off eventually.
Guess single men stay unpopular right up until they die, lol.
Sounds like you'd say that super fast, like you've got it rehearsed.
It's text — how can it be 'fast'…?
That's just you reading it fast in your own head, as always.
Now that's a clever comeback.
First time on 5ch? Relax a little.
Happiness rankings are way too sloppy to mean anything.
It's a totally different thing once you change languages.
You're calling properly analyzed OECD statistical data 'sloppy'…?
Even if you're just trolling, do a little more homework. Can't you even use AI?
The definition of happiness changes by culture and era.
You can't really compare it.
It doesn't change.
That's why you should check the data before nitpicking.
Every point you've made is off the mark.
Look into it first, then raise actual questions.
Man, you sure do talk a lot.
Guess my posts are really getting to you.
If I annoyed you that much you could just block me — but you went out of your way to reply instead.
I'm curious about you, let's be friends.
You seem like you'd score pretty low on happiness.
'People who post annoying stuff have low happiness'… low, huh?!
Guess it hit you so hard you had to convince yourself I'm the unhappy one.
No idea if you're happy or not, but it's painfully obvious you've got no room to spare 😅
I just can't stop thinking about youuuu — is this love?
Teen suicide rates are higher for girls than boys now, so that gap's probably going to flip eventually too.
Background and Key Points of This Discussion
Under a 2015 system reform, special nursing homes for the elderly (tokuyo) in principle require residents to be rated Care Level 3 or higher for admission. But as pointed out in the thread, even those who meet the criteria often face long waitlists because demand far outstrips the number of facilities — there’s a real gap between the assumption that ‘you get in as soon as you hit Care Level 3’ and how things actually work on the ground. The same goes for renouncing an inheritance: filing the petition with the family court yourself costs only a few thousand yen, but hiring a professional can run anywhere from tens of thousands to several hundred thousand yen — exactly the gap reflected in the poster’s experience in the thread. Where opinions split was over how far to trust international happiness-ranking statistics (published by bodies like the OECD), with one side arguing cultural differences must be accounted for and the other insisting on respecting the statistical evidence — the two talking past each other for the rest of the exchange. The financial burden of retirement and elderly care is an institutional issue everyone faces, married or single, though it’s worth noting the thread tended to frame it specifically as a single person’s problem.
※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread ‘How do people in their 50s who are single actually make a living?‘.
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