Pakkun Graduated From Harvard — But When He First Came to Japan, He Was an English Conversation Teacher. 5ch: “Wait, He Went to Harvard and Taught English Conversation?”

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Appearing on “Tetsuko’s Room,” Pakkun (Patrick Harlan) revealed how he grew up in a poor family, graduated from Harvard on a scholarship, and then came to Japan at age 23 to start working as an English conversation school teacher. On the 5ch Geinou/Sports News+ board, the thread lit up over the reality that graduating from a prestigious university doesn’t guarantee a high income right away, and over how closely American university admissions are tied to family background and future employment. At the same time, some posts poked fun at how little-known his comedy partner Makkun is, while others compared the career paths of other Harvard-educated celebrities, with reactions split over the gap between academic pedigree and real-world treatment.

Pakkun Came to Japan at 23, Reveals His Former Job — Even as a Harvard Grad, “The Pay Wasn’t That Great”

Patrick Harlan, aka Pakkun of the comedy duo Pakkun Makkun, appeared on the October 26 broadcast of “Tetsuko’s Room” (weekdays at 1:00 PM), where he revealed details about his former job.

Pakkun, who has over 30 years of investing experience and is active nationwide as a public speaker and TV commentator, grew up in a poor family but graduated from Harvard University thanks to a scholarship program.

Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

What people said

5AnonymousOct 27, 2026 09:50
I kept thinking Makkun's turn in the spotlight would come someday, but it's wild that it still hasn't happened even once.

Every duo has a moment where even the "other guy" gets his spotlight moment, you'd think.
9AnonymousOct 27, 2026 09:57
Re: #5
He seems perfect for hosting a big-eating contest show, but TV Tokyo went and got the ever-versatile Takahashi Minami instead.
6AnonymousOct 27, 2026 09:51
I can't tell the difference between him and Sain Camus (another American-born TV personality in Japan).
11AnonymousOct 27, 2026 09:58
Re: #6
Okay, that one's on you, buddy.
13AnonymousOct 27, 2026 09:59
Pretty impressive he settled for that kind of treatment despite graduating from Harvard.
14AnonymousOct 27, 2026 10:00
English conversation school pay is low, but
33 years ago the yen was strong,
so it was probably better than it would be today.
15AnonymousOct 27, 2026 10:02
Wait, isn't a scholarship supposed to be free money???
It's not like it's the Japanese kind (which usually has to be paid back).
16AnonymousOct 27, 2026 10:02
Normally you need good family background too
— even if you graduate from a great university, without connections you've got nothing, so there's no job waiting for you.

Japan might be the only country where even a poor kid can land a job as a bureaucrat or at a top company just by graduating from a high-ranked university.
44AnonymousOct 27, 2026 10:33
Re: #16
That all broke down starting with the "Ice Age generation" (those who graduated into Japan's brutal 1990s–2000s job market).
95AnonymousOct 27, 2026 11:22
Re: #16
In America, you go to a top university specifically to build connections.
18AnonymousOct 27, 2026 10:03
He went to Harvard and ended up teaching English conversation??
19AnonymousOct 27, 2026 10:03
This guy taught me that even through a foreigner's clumsy pronunciation, you can tell whether words are sincere or fake.
43AnonymousOct 27, 2026 10:33
Re: #19
Aren't you even a little skeptical of your own ability to "just tell"?
20AnonymousOct 27, 2026 10:05
He's a spy, just like Dave Spector (the American TV personality long-joked to secretly be CIA).
21AnonymousOct 27, 2026 10:06
That résumé practically screams "suspicious."
He's probably a spy.
22AnonymousOct 27, 2026 10:06
Even accounting for the era, if it took two years he'd have been 25.
Being able to pay it off fully by that point is huge.
23AnonymousOct 27, 2026 10:07
About twenty years ago, when I was broke and working a day-rate security guard gig, there was a Harvard grad working there too. I still wonder to this day what that guy's story was.
Never got the chance to talk to him though.
26AnonymousOct 27, 2026 10:10
Re: #23
I once worked a one-off gig job alongside a Chinese exchange student studying at Kyushu University's med school.
They're probably just filling gaps in their schedule, kind of like using a "Timee"-style spot-work app these days.
24AnonymousOct 27, 2026 10:09
His dub of the protagonist in Gun Survivor was so stiff it's hilarious.
25AnonymousOct 27, 2026 10:10
Lol, he's only one year younger than me.
So he was in his prime in his 40s?
He looks young for it.
27AnonymousOct 27, 2026 10:11
Having been an underwear model might be his embarrassing past —
though if you google it, the photos pop right up.
47AnonymousOct 27, 2026 10:36
Family background used to matter more in Japan back in the day.
Interviewers would casually ask about your parents' jobs, and companies openly admitted they wouldn't hire anyone from a single-mother household.
65AnonymousOct 27, 2026 10:45
Re: #47
Maybe only civil-service jobs.
56AnonymousOct 27, 2026 10:42
The University of Illinois's "Shervey" campus has a computer science program that's among the best in the country —
that's where comedian Atsugiri Jason went.
That's exactly why people mock Pakkun: "Sure he went to Harvard, but it was probably just a religious studies major."
60AnonymousOct 27, 2026 10:44
Re: #56
America's blatant like that — it's a country where everything comes down to whether you can make money.
In Japan, even a University of Tokyo literature grad generally isn't looked down on.
Most people just think "wow, smart."
Though apparently Todai law grads do look down on them.
57AnonymousOct 27, 2026 10:42
I wanted to go to an Ivy League school too —
wearing one of those school-color sweatshirts.
62AnonymousOct 27, 2026 10:45
Re: #57
Ivy League schools skew pretty white.
Low-income students and students of color have a hard time fitting in.
Princeton especially is so overwhelmingly white that Black advocacy groups have criticized it.
70AnonymousOct 27, 2026 10:50
Does Makkun even really exist?
It's wild that I can't even picture his face.
80AnonymousOct 27, 2026 11:00
Re: #70
He's on TV Tokyo every day
starting at 10am.
75AnonymousOct 27, 2026 10:55
He majored in comparative religion at Harvard, so this is about par for the course.
Seriously, becoming a clergyman might've been his only real option.
For medicine, Johns Hopkins and Penn are ahead.
For engineering, it's MIT and Caltech and the like.
84AnonymousOct 27, 2026 11:03
Re: #75
Since it was comparative religion, he probably should've gone through sociology of religion into international relations.
Could've ended up as a State Department official or something.
76AnonymousOct 27, 2026 10:56
So a Harvard degree doesn't automatically make you a high earner, huh.
78AnonymousOct 27, 2026 10:58
Re: #76
Well, obviously. I bet there are plenty of middle-aged Todai-grad hikikomori out there lol.
88AnonymousOct 27, 2026 11:08
We were in the same grade, same class.
Brings back memories.
89AnonymousOct 27, 2026 11:15
Re: #88
Harvard? Look at you, impressive.

Background and Key Points of This Topic

Pakkun was born into a poor family and, after graduating from Harvard on a scholarship, is said to have made a living as an English conversation school teacher right after arriving in Japan. The label “Harvard grad” tends to conjure images of a high income, but income after graduation varies widely depending on one’s school and major, and the thread picked up on the reality that academic credentials and real-world treatment don’t always line up. Behind this lies a difference between the two countries’ systems: in the US, getting into university tends to depend heavily on a family’s financial resources and connections, whereas in Japan, exam results alone can open the door to government jobs or major corporations regardless of family background. Opinions in the thread were split between those who saw this “gap between credentials and treatment” as only natural, and those who felt too much was expected simply because of the “Harvard graduate” label.

*This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Entertainment] Pakkun Came to Japan at 23, Reveals His Former Job — Even as a Harvard Grad, “The Pay Wasn’t That Great”.”

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