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A casual chat thread on 5ch turned into a full-blown debate over turnout for the Hello! Project group Rosy Chronicle. It started with the claim that “the members don’t sell because they’re short,” but as the discussion went on, it shifted to more concrete territory — the scale of their live house tour, whether a solo Budokan show is realistic, and the fading engagement of “DD” (fans who split their support across multiple groups). Posters also worried that forming a new group would drain resources from existing ones, and no consensus was reached.
What people said
Probably never gonna happen at this point
Yeah, most of the members are already adults now
CDs are selling steadily, and this fall they managed a live house tour scaled for 10,000+ people
If they can pull in the DD crowd, they could probably manage a Budokan show at least once
Nah, honestly they can't even pull 5,000
Unless you count the 2nd-gen members too
The DDs have all flowed over to Juice=Juice, so the other groups are on life support
If they can pull in 6,000 for Budokan that'd look respectable enough, so they're not too far off
They might pull it off once, but doing it again would be tough
Not sure if it's overflow hype or a wave of new fans, but groups other than Juice are selling surprisingly well on their fall tours too
Only Angerme is struggling, and that's just because their venues are too big for them
The number of tour dates and venue sizes aren't the same, so is that really a fair comparison?
Even their senpai group Ocha Norma has only done it once
Still, if you can headline Budokan solo even one time, that's a pretty solid idol career
If that's the goal, adding new members is a must
Personally I think they could reach Budokan even without adding members, but it might be tough
Soma needs to have a breakout moment like Tsutsui did
This year there's barely any room to graduate — maybe just into Angerme and Beyooooonds — yet there are so many trainees
I think a trainee unit is coming sooner or later
There are already 7 groups though
That's because their faces were cute
People said it'd be Beyooooonds, but they turned into a phoenix (bounced back from near-crisis), so never mind
Even if they can't easily make another group on the level of Morning Musume, Angerme, or Juice=Juice — ones that can fill big venues without members graduating out
This crappy agency spreads the cute girls too thin across groups, it's dumb
Well, that's true, but
given how many trainees there are now, if they don't form a new group to open up more graduation slots, the trainees' parents are gonna be furious
Morning Musume and Cute, made up of the "leftovers," ended up selling better
So they tried making Rosy out of leftovers too
And their numbers are already tough as it is
If they let Rosy do Budokan next year, wouldn't that be the trigger for forming a new trainee unit?
If they play it safe, they'll probably fade though
They don't even have a manager, do they
They can just hire a manager
Both with Ocha Norma and with Rosy, people said it was impossible due to lack of resources, but a new group happened anyway both times — I think it'll go the same way again
No way, absolutely not
Rosy's turnout is way too weak for that
If it looks like the venue's going to be half-empty, I think DDs and other fans will step in to help fill it out
As long as no member has a scandal
But when it's all short girls, the entry point is narrow, so the fanbase doesn't grow
Fan resources (time and money) are already stretched pretty thin, I'd think
Another group as popular as Morning Musume or Juice=Juice is impossible, but
if Rosy-level popularity is good enough, there's still room
That's exactly why the "mutual aid circle" (fans propping up weaker groups out of loyalty to the agency) doesn't really exist in Hello! Project anymore
They filled Yokohama Arena for Beyooooonds' Takase's graduation, so once is definitely doable
There's still life in them yet
Yeah, fans have gotten colder
You can tell just from watching the calls at Hello! Con
Background and Key Points of This Discussion
Rosy Chronicle is a relatively new Hello! Project group, and the thread discussed audience turnout and the feasibility of a Budokan concert using concrete figures. “DD” is Hello! Project slang for fans who support multiple groups at once rather than committing to just one, and several posters noted that this kind of cross-group support has noticeably weakened lately. On the other hand, the claim that “Morning Musume and Cute sold well as groups made of ‘leftover’ members, so Rosy was formed from leftovers too” reflects one poster’s personal opinion about the group’s origins, not an officially confirmed fact — worth noting. Opinions on a Budokan show were split as well, with some saying “pulling it off even once would be a solid achievement for an idol” and others saying “turnout-wise, it’s a stretch,” and the thread reached no clear conclusion.
※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Is Rosy Chronicle not selling because the members are short?“
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