McDonald’s Struggles After Chicken Shift, Burger King Thrives by Sticking with Beef — 5ch: ‘BK Is Basically a Straight Upgrade Over Mickey D’s’

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The story

As inflation keeps squeezing the U.S., the diverging strategies of fast-food chains are starting to show up in their earnings. McDonald’s pushed a shift toward cheaper chicken menu items, but the move fell flat, while Burger King stuck with beef even as prices kept climbing, revamping its recipe for the first time in a decade — and posted strong results. On the 5ch thread discussing this, users pointed to a U.S. survey ranking burger chains by popularity that placed McDonald’s 13th, with some noting that in America fast food carries a “cheap, self-indulgent food for the bottom rung” stigma, while others praised Japanese McDonald’s for being both cheap and tasty.

Something unusual is happening in the fast-food wars in the United States — long considered the common person’s ally.

Facing rising prices, McDonald’s USA and others shifted toward cheaper chicken menu items, but earnings didn’t improve,

while Burger King, which stuck with beef despite the ongoing price surge and overhauled its recipe for the first time in a decade, posted strong earnings.

Source: nikkei.com / Original article here

What people said

3AnonymousNov 10, 2026 10:42
I won't say McDonald's is bad, but I sure can't say it's good either.
Yeah, it's fighting for last place in any food-chain taste ranking.
4AnonymousNov 10, 2026 10:42
I've been eating nothing but Burger King lately too.
It's pricier but the portions are huge and satisfying.
6AnonymousNov 10, 2026 10:43
BK really is just a straight-up upgrade over Mickey D's.
7AnonymousNov 10, 2026 10:43
Wendy's still hasn't been bought out?
People have been saying that since spring.
8AnonymousNov 10, 2026 10:43
Subway actually has the most locations in America, you know.
Hard to believe.
32AnonymousNov 10, 2026 10:51
Re: #8
Subway's actually good, but isn't BK just okay like that too?
118AnonymousNov 10, 2026 11:39
Re: #8
Maybe it's like atoning for an otherwise terrible diet?
Feels like the opposite mentality from Japanese people.
11AnonymousNov 10, 2026 10:45
McDonald's Big Mac and their regular Hamburger —
the meat's totally different, right? The Big Mac was genuinely good,
but the plain Hamburger is bad enough every time that I regret eating it.
23AnonymousNov 10, 2026 10:48
Re: #11
The meat's actually the same.
The Hamburger's just got one thin flat patty, which is why it's not great.
The sauce difference is huge too.
113AnonymousNov 10, 2026 11:35
Re: #11
The regular Hamburger tastes bad because of the buns.
McDonald's cheapest bun is airy and bland, not good at all.
15AnonymousNov 10, 2026 10:46
[Sad news] McDonald's isn't even popular back home
When Americans were asked their favorite burger chain:

1st: In-N-Out Burger 73%
2nd: Five Guys 68%
3rd: Culver's 67%
4th: Whataburger 58%
5th: Smashburger 54%

11th: Wendy's 36%
12th: Burger King 33%
13th: McDonald's 28%



It's only big in cash-strapped Japan because it's cheap.
19AnonymousNov 10, 2026 10:47
Re: #15
McDonald's is 13th?
Basically nobody over there takes that burger joint seriously.
92AnonymousNov 10, 2026 11:26
An American friend of mine told me fast food is basically seen as something for lazy, bottom-of-the-barrel people.
Decent folks treat eating out as a premium thing, so naturally they demand quality.
That's exactly
why you get Re: #15.
Both #1 and #2 are burger joints with genuinely great quality.
105AnonymousNov 10, 2026 11:33
Re: #15
For reference, here are the store counts:

1. McDonald's: approx. 13,900–14,700 locations
2. Burger King: approx. 6,400–7,700 locations
3. Wendy's: approx. 5,600–6,400 locations
4. Sonic Drive-In: approx. 3,600 locations
5. Jack in the Box: approx. 2,300 locations
6. Five Guys: approx. 1,600 locations
7. Hardee's: approx. 1,400–1,500 locations
8. Whataburger: approx. 1,200 locations
9. Carl's Jr.: approx. 1,000 locations
10. Culver's: approx. 970 locations
22AnonymousNov 10, 2026 10:48
Funny how more and more Japanese people are calling Japan's McDonald's — the cheapest in the world — 'expensive.' lol



Japan has declined so much that people can't even afford this absurdly cheap burger anymore.

Big Mac: cheaper than China
Disney tickets: cheaper than China
iPhone: cheaper than China, the cheapest in the world
35AnonymousNov 10, 2026 10:53
Maybe it's because Japan's an island nation, or because we're farmers at heart, but once something becomes 'the standard,' Japanese people cling to it forever.
Starbucks has fallen off in America, but people in Japan still flock to it.
37AnonymousNov 10, 2026 10:54
Re: #35
No Japanese person actually feels like Japan is 'an island nation.'
An island nation is more like an uninhabited island where you can see ocean in every direction.
38AnonymousNov 10, 2026 10:54
Re: #35
Once something becomes 'the standard,' old people just camp out there forever.
56AnonymousNov 10, 2026 11:03
Re: #35
'Starbucks fell off so I stopped going too' —
that's the lame, easily-swayed attitude (lit. "kyoro," someone who just checks what's trendy), not the other way around.
You can't even proudly admit to liking what you like.
That's just a boring person with no identity of their own.
39AnonymousNov 10, 2026 10:55
Gates and Buffett, red-faced over this one.
53AnonymousNov 10, 2026 11:00
Re: #39
I love that story about Gates getting roasted in the news for using a McDonald's discount coupon.
68AnonymousNov 10, 2026 11:09
Re: #53
Rich people being cheapskates, lol.
40AnonymousNov 10, 2026 10:56
I love McDonald's from this era.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DaLkED8VAAYIjDp.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DaLkED9VQAI601f.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DaLkEECUQAAbtG7.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DaLkEEBVMAMGC-G.jpg
41AnonymousNov 10, 2026 10:56
McDonald's back then was actually tasty, wasn't it~
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DaLfYZ8U0AAXuFg.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DaLfYZ-UMAAdPsy.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DaLfYZ-V4AARhAy.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DaLfYZ8VwAAvJkO.jpg
44AnonymousNov 10, 2026 10:56
I like McDonald's, honestly.
It's cheap junk food that's easy to eat —
don't need it to feel fancy.
49AnonymousNov 10, 2026 10:57
Re: #44
That's probably because their prices have crept up to match Burger King's, right?
61AnonymousNov 10, 2026 11:05
Here lie the dreams of soldiers past. (riffing on Basho's famous haiku line about fallen glory)







63AnonymousNov 10, 2026 11:06
The reason Bill Gates likes McDonald's is that he can finish eating fast.
He just thinks spending time on meals is wasteful — it's definitely not because he thinks it's delicious.
64AnonymousNov 10, 2026 11:07
Re: #63
The guy was lining up at McDonald's himself, though.
65AnonymousNov 10, 2026 11:09
Re: #63
That's a rumor that only circulates in Japan.
It's bizarre — Gates eats McDonald's once and suddenly Japanese articles claim he only eats McDonald's.
In reality he barely eats it at all.
74AnonymousNov 10, 2026 11:14
Re: #65
You're the one spreading misinformation.
There are plenty of photos of him eating it in the actual restaurant.
Trump and Buffett eat McDonald's normally too.



76AnonymousNov 10, 2026 11:15
Re: #74
Way too easy to fool, lol.
78AnonymousNov 10, 2026 11:16
People still eating McDonald's lmaooo
FYI I'm Team Lotteria.
84AnonymousNov 10, 2026 11:20
Re: #78
Liar.
Lotteria doesn't even exist anymore.
87AnonymousNov 10, 2026 11:21
Burger King's not really all that tasty either, honestly.
89AnonymousNov 10, 2026 11:22
Re: #87
The Whopper's good.
Their cheap burgers are mediocre though.
That place is basically a Whopper shop.
97AnonymousNov 10, 2026 11:31
Is it true kids these days don't even know Sweet & Sour sauce?
That legendary sauce that's basically clear.

99AnonymousNov 10, 2026 11:31
Apparently foreigners who visit Japan and try McDonald's here are shocked at how good it is.
112AnonymousNov 10, 2026 11:34
Re: #99
They only ever show the people gushing 'it's so good, it's so good,' but a lot of white tourists can't actually handle Japanese food, so partway through their trip they start eating McDonald's or pizza instead.
For some reason CoCo Ichibanya (the curry chain) is a huge hit with white tourists though.

Background and key points of this discussion

In recent years, how U.S. restaurant chains respond to rising beef prices has become a dividing line. McDonald’s tried to cut costs by pushing chicken menu items, but kept losing customers, while Burger King kept the beef ratio in its mainstay Whopper unchanged and overhauled the recipe for the first time in a decade, turning its earnings around. The U.S. popularity survey quoted in the thread (with In-N-Out and Five Guys at the top and McDonald’s at 13th) is an image of unknown origin that’s been copy-pasted widely online, and it doesn’t actually contradict the fact that McDonald’s has the most locations of any chain in the U.S. — in other words, “popularity ranking” and “scale of store network” are two different metrics, and it’s an easy misread to jump from this survey to “McDonald’s isn’t popular back home.” The oft-repeated anecdote that Bill Gates loves McDonald’s also sparked debate, since how often he actually eats there remains unconfirmed — a story that’s taken on a life of its own in Japan.

*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “America: ‘Right now it’s a total solo win for Burger King — the people still eating McDonald’s are poor people who care about money over taste’“.

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