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A thread on 5ch’s Hello! Project board has taken off over the surge in views and likes on Juice=Juice’s TikTok videos. Some posters claim that nearly all of the group’s uploads are topping 200,000 views, and it was also pointed out that in collaboration videos with other groups, only the clips featuring Juice=Juice members seem to take off. Opinions in the thread split over whether this reflects algorithmic bias or a genuine popularity gap, and debate also broke out over the individual standing of members like Yua Kudo and Risa Irie.
What people said
4,127 days — Akari Uemura
3,368 days — Ruru Danbara (since 2017/06/26)
3,194 days — Tomoko Kanazawa
2,909 days — Sayuki Takagi
2,845 days — Karin Miyamoto
2,650 days — Yua Kudo & Ria Matsunaga (since 2019/06/14)
2,358 days — Reon Inoue (since 2020/04/01)
2,303 days — Yuka Miyazaki
1,896 days — Ichika Arisawa, Risa Irie & Hisaki Ebata (since 2021/07/07)
1,539 days — Sakura Ishiyama & Sairi Endo (since 2022/06/29)
1,447 days — Manaka Inaba
1,211 days — Mifuu Kawashima (since 2023/05/23)
*,623 days — Nanami Yanagawa
*,449 days — Nia Hayashi (since 2025/06/23)
*,130 days — Aina Otsuka
That proves the account-size excuse doesn't hold up
Anyone who tries to judge everything by TikTok alone smells just like those Spotify-numbers-obsessed guys lol
You've gotta look at things from multiple angles
Even looking at the idol industry as a whole, Juice=Juice would probably scrape into the top ten
For Niina, ANGERME/Tsubaki members are basically her "Sanico" (fan slang for a benchmark rival that's tough to beat)
Her dancing and stage presence really are cool, gotta admit
Why are you even tracking this stuff?
Also, Shimoitani really does seem to be getting avoided across the board on every metric
How much are the other groups even uploading?
If anything, by average likes they'd land in the top 5
Background and Key Points of This Discussion
TikTok view and like counts are shaped by multiple factors — posting frequency, the platform’s algorithm, follower makeup, and more — so they should be read with caution as a simple measure of popularity. Within the thread itself, some argued it was premature to judge based on TikTok alone, suggesting the numbers should be weighed alongside other metrics like Spotify. It’s also worth noting that the pattern of collaboration videos only performing well when Juice=Juice members are involved could be explained by overlapping follower bases or differences in posting timing, and doesn’t necessarily indicate that the other groups are simply less popular.
*This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Juice=Juice’s TikTok: even Yua Kudo and Risa Irie are now casually racking up viral hits, so within the Hello! Project ‘village,’ the only videos that dip are the ones parasitized by other also-ran groups….”
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