Grocery Tax Cut Sparks Fears for Restaurant Industry — 5ch: “If You’re Worried About Tax, Don’t Eat Out”

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The planned cut to the consumption tax on groceries has sparked debate over its impact on the restaurant industry. In a public opinion poll, over 20% said they would “eat out less,” and a majority called for support for restaurant operators. On the forum, opinions split over whether the tax cut would actually translate into lower prices, the tax-rate gap with takeout, and whether eating out even counts as a necessity in the first place.

Concrete design work on the grocery consumption tax cut is now in full swing. The Liberal Democratic Party held a meeting of senior members of its Tax System Research Commission, kicking off discussions toward compiling its tax reform outline.

However, business operators on the ground have voiced concerns about the burden of relabeling price tags, among other issues, highlighting the many challenges involved in implementation.

On the news program “Watashi to News,” the food and beverage consumption tax cut and support for the restaurant industry were discussed together with Madoka Nakano, an associate professor at the University of Tokyo’s IncluDE center.

Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

3Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 10:24:18.25ID:jA7Aqqdp0
If you're worried about the consumption tax, just don't eat out in the first place.
134Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 10:42:25.90ID:uNk/FZAp0
>>3
The problem is exactly that people worried about the tax don't eat out — that's the whole issue.
189Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 10:47:54.60ID:dug05vTR0
>>3
That's proof right there that eating-out opportunities are decreasing.
6Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 10:25:07.89ID:lmloaNMU0
Not really sure, but… does everyone eat out because it's cheaper than cooking at home? Isn't it because they want to eat something tasty?
51Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 10:32:40.92ID:l1gNilTv0
>>6
People who can't cook for themselves rely on deli food, bento boxes, frozen meals, or eating out.
56Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 10:33:33.78ID:obr+qQcL0
>>6
Right. Eating out is something you pay a "value-added tax" for — saving effort and getting tasty food. Japan really needs to learn that trying to bail everyone out on everything will bankrupt the country.
10Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 10:26:02.20ID:0kbMtJWH0
Funny how the people complaining that inflation is crushing their lives always take a proper weekend off. If you were really struggling, you'd work at least on Saturdays.
27Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 10:29:32.04ID:IMUNYumK0
>>10
To begin with, for people genuinely struggling with high prices, a flat tax cut is only a tiny benefit — if anything, the rich benefit more.

A flat cut is dumb to begin with; a direct cash payout would still be better, since the amount doesn't change even for rich people.
12Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 10:26:39.65ID:hOERKu7z0
There are way too many unneeded restaurants. Just conscript them into nursing care or agriculture.
152Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 10:44:30.94ID:3vrvadpu0
>>12
Exactly — there's no way they can hand out more subsidies anyway, after all the subsidies dumped out during the phony COVID panic.
17Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 10:27:43.93ID:IMUNYumK0
A consumption tax cut during inflation is dumb to begin with, but…

Restaurants are supposed to stop having consumption tax applied to their purchase costs.

That's the theory, but in reality, primary and secondary industries probably won't lower prices by the amount of the tax cut.

In the end, the wholesalers supplying supermarkets won't change either.
275Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 10:57:04.53ID:uNk/FZAp0
>>17
Not passing the tax cut on as lower prices = effectively a price hike, right?
Do that and it looks like profiteering on the surface, but unlike with the childbirth subsidy, retail and restaurants have visible price tags.
So instead of a big "¥1,999" with a small "¥2,158 tax included" underneath, it'd just say "¥2,158" outright.
Even to an amateur, that seems like it'd take some nerve.
Some discount store is bound to show up selling it at ¥1,999 regardless.
18Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 10:27:53.39ID:vXiQaV/N0
There are just too many restaurants. Might as well cut back on them now and shift the workforce into nursing care, transport, agriculture, etc. That would also let Japan cut back on accepting foreign workers, which would help ordinary citizens.
305Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 11:00:21.26ID:u+VKjE4u0
>>18
Once you can't even feed yourself, can't fight off a cold, and start choking on your food, that's just your natural lifespan.
Elderly healthcare and welfare is the one place where money disappears into a bottomless pit — no other Western country prioritizes it the way Japan does.
A Confucian cult of a country that cracked down on young people over a common cold (COVID), let births fall below 700,000, and still won't reflect on it.
30Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 10:29:51.58ID:+iQZjJDe0
Did charging otoshi (the mandatory starter dish/cover charge at Japanese izakayas) and service fees actually drive customers away?
35Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 10:30:12.99ID:j+PO9Fbw0
>>30
Yes, drastically.
69Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 10:35:21.50ID:PYTfeG5b0
If someone stops eating out because cooking at home is cheaper, they'd have quit regardless of the consumption tax.
79Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 10:36:52.17ID:f5Wa3f/q0
>>69
This. People eat out because cooking for themselves is a hassle.
85Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 10:37:42.24ID:TN7mnbtD0
>>69
Isn't the point that takeout drops to 1% tax, so people will shift toward that instead?
108Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 10:39:59.79ID:rBmqA5KM0
>>69
Some people started cooking for themselves because of COVID, so surely some will start cooking for themselves because of this too.
104Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 10:39:51.10ID:mY62EXE80
Japan's probably the only country in the world where cutting taxes gets you this much media bashing and complaining lol
137Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 10:42:36.82ID:gnOT3Gic0
>>104
Guess the food's just that good.
147Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 10:44:01.84ID:H23MsnHI0
The people who said a weaker yen wouldn't affect ordinary citizens' lives should commit seppuku.
154Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 10:44:40.68ID:6h6nV/Pi0
>>147
What actually happened, though? Even someone like you seems to be getting by just fine.
170Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 10:46:06.60ID:NPBEUSSr0
>>1
Looking at the graph, the "it'll decrease" camp actually looks pretty small.
Isn't that a negligible level?

https://www.tv-asahi.co.jp/hst/poll/202608/
193Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 10:48:17.45ID:xUd9BnBy0
Subsidies, subsidies, always subsidies lol. Just scrap the tax cut already.
203Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 10:49:44.56ID:8FxgEOE10
>>193 That's exactly the reaction the reporting is designed to provoke. You fell right for it, lol.
216Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 10:51:08.80ID:ZKkZz5BM0
>>203
If anything, half of people are against the tax cut. There's no alternative funding source, so it's obvious we'll end up footing the bill ourselves in the end.
315Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 11:01:28.92ID:xUd9BnBy0
>>203
So we're agreed then — no support for them?
265Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 10:56:10.97ID:RAxBPTAa0
Eat-in: 10% consumption tax
Takeout: 1% consumption tax

Would people still choose to eat in with a gap like that?
276Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 10:57:12.38ID:TQ2zrKAs0
>>265
Rich people wouldn't care either way.
298Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 10:59:41.72ID:ZKkZz5BM0
>>265
Takeout depends on the food, though. Burgers are fine, but fried or stir-fried dishes lose their flavor if you don't eat them right away. Why should anyone have to put up with that just to save 9%?
321Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 11:02:00.97ID:5y3HmBWE0
>>265
For a ¥1,000 item: ¥1,100 vs ¥1,010. For 90 yen, you skip the trash and the cleanup.
312Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 11:01:02.35ID:lJVMQ3XW0
Restaurants' purchase costs should drop 7% too, so their prices should come down. Do that and customers will come. What's the restaurant industry whining about?
336Anonymous2026/08/26(水) 11:03:21.72ID:nXgQUSrS0
>>312
Thought the same thing. With lower supply costs, some restaurants might actually see their gross margin go up. High-end restaurants especially might end up more profitable.

*This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5channel (Breaking News+) thread “[Consumption Tax Cut] Poll: Over 20% Say “Eating Out Will Decrease,” Majority Say “Support Needed”… What Happens to the Restaurant Industry’s Concerns.”

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