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A man who had just undergone phimosis surgery posted a Q&A thread on 5ch’s “Morning Coffee” board. He had paraphimosis (a severe form where the foreskin gets trapped behind the glans), which had been worsening year after year, so he got the operation done under national health insurance. He went on to answer in detail about the surgical procedure, how painful the anesthesia was, the post-op restrictions, and what the end result looked like. Replies poured in, including stories from people who skipped surgery and instead stretched their foreskin over time to shift into a milder, easily-retractable form of phimosis, as well as others who recommended surgery outright — making clear that how people choose to deal with phimosis really varies from person to person.
What people said
Ask me anything.
Is it true that old guys who use the gym shower instead of bathing at home rarely have phimosis because everyone just gets surgery out of vanity?
Re: #3
Probably, yeah.
Though apparently 70% of guys have phimosis.
Probably, yeah.
Though apparently 70% of guys have phimosis.
What type of phimosis, and
your flaccid length
Give me those two, please!
your flaccid length
Give me those two, please!
Re: #7
Paraphimosis.
For some reason they measured me after the surgery — it was 10cm.
Paraphimosis.
For some reason they measured me after the surgery — it was 10cm.
Retractable? Nobody cares about phimosis these days unless it's the true or paraphimosis type, right?
Re: #9
It was paraphimosis.
I'd always figured I was more on the retractable side (what 5ch jokingly calls "Mars" — a pun, since the word for retractable phimosis, "kasei," sounds like the Japanese word for the planet Mars),
but today the doctor clearly diagnosed me as paraphimosis, and I'm glad I chose surgery.
It was paraphimosis.
I'd always figured I was more on the retractable side (what 5ch jokingly calls "Mars" — a pun, since the word for retractable phimosis, "kasei," sounds like the Japanese word for the planet Mars),
but today the doctor clearly diagnosed me as paraphimosis, and I'm glad I chose surgery.
So it's the kind where they cut the skin?
I heard there's also a method where they just tie it off at the base.
I heard there's also a method where they just tie it off at the base.
Re: #10
Yeah, they cut the skin.
When they first explained the procedure I nearly got lightheaded.
Yeah, they cut the skin.
When they first explained the procedure I nearly got lightheaded.
Isn't paraphimosis the one where, if you're not careful, it can cut off blood flow and the tissue basically starts to die?
Re: #13
Yep, that's it.
It would retract, but if I kept it retracted too long it started hurting (sometimes hurt during masturbation or sex too).
I'm so happy that's gone now.
Yep, that's it.
It would retract, but if I kept it retracted too long it started hurting (sometimes hurt during masturbation or sex too).
I'm so happy that's gone now.
Thought it was just retractable, but it turned out to be paraphimosis —
well, no wonder you had to cut it.
well, no wonder you had to cut it.
I've got true phimosis, so this is exactly why I'm worried.
Re: #14
Yeah, exactly.
Re: #15
That's scary — I'm the type who gets morning wood easily.
Re: #16
If you apply, it's covered by insurance, so definitely go for it.
Yeah, exactly.
Re: #15
That's scary — I'm the type who gets morning wood easily.
Re: #16
If you apply, it's covered by insurance, so definitely go for it.
By the way, you'll wake up from the sheer agony of getting morning wood now.
Also, since your underwear constantly rubs the glans and 'toughens it up,' you end up with delayed ejaculation, which sex workers hate.
Re: #23
The doctor actually told me it tends to make you more prone to premature ejaculation.
The doctor actually told me it tends to make you more prone to premature ejaculation.
Isn't it fine to just keep it 'sheathed' when you're not using it (i.e. stay phimotic)?
Re: #27
Since mine was paraphimosis, I'm glad I did it.
The symptoms kept getting worse every single year,
so honestly I probably should've done it sooner.
Since mine was paraphimosis, I'm glad I did it.
The symptoms kept getting worse every single year,
so honestly I probably should've done it sooner.
Dick shape is probably hereditary too — is your dad also a paraphimosis case?
Did you ever talk to him about it?
Did you ever talk to him about it?
It's a long story so I'll keep it short, but
isn't there some procedure that's not a big cut — just gently stretching the skin in the retracting direction?
That alone would be plenty for me.
isn't there some procedure that's not a big cut — just gently stretching the skin in the retracting direction?
That alone would be plenty for me.
Re: #31
Apparently there are non-cutting procedures too —
something like applying an ointment to gradually soften and loosen the skin.
Apparently there are non-cutting procedures too —
something like applying an ointment to gradually soften and loosen the skin.
I was also leaning toward paraphimosis, but at 20 I stretched the skin myself and turned it into retractable phimosis instead.
You don't necessarily have to go as far as surgery.
You don't necessarily have to go as far as surgery.
Oh really? Congrats.
Re: #33
Jealous.
I trained toward that same goal,
but before I knew it I was pushing 30,
and the paraphimosis symptoms just kept getting worse every year anyway.
Re: #34
Thanks.
After it was done, walking around outside, I felt like a completely new man.
Jealous.
I trained toward that same goal,
but before I knew it I was pushing 30,
and the paraphimosis symptoms just kept getting worse every year anyway.
Re: #34
Thanks.
After it was done, walking around outside, I felt like a completely new man.
You've gotta tell your mom and get her to cook celebratory red rice (sekihan, the traditional dish for good news) back home.
Re: #39
I've only told one friend who's also had phimosis surgery, and I don't plan on telling anyone else.
I've only told one friend who's also had phimosis surgery, and I don't plan on telling anyone else.
Did you take the foreskin home as a souvenir?
Can a third party tell just by looking at your dick that you had the surgery?
Re: #41
They didn't show it to me.
I've heard some clinics show you the skin they cut off,
but I'm squeamish about gross stuff, so I'm glad mine didn't.
Re: #42
It tends to come out two-toned, so people in the know might be able to tell.
I went with a slightly pricier plan where they positioned it just under the ridge of the glans, so the scar is apparently hard to notice.
Re: #43
I literally feel like I shed a layer of skin.
If I were the retractable type it'd be totally fine as-is,
but depending on the day, even just pulling it back used to be a real struggle.
They didn't show it to me.
I've heard some clinics show you the skin they cut off,
but I'm squeamish about gross stuff, so I'm glad mine didn't.
Re: #42
It tends to come out two-toned, so people in the know might be able to tell.
I went with a slightly pricier plan where they positioned it just under the ridge of the glans, so the scar is apparently hard to notice.
Re: #43
I literally feel like I shed a layer of skin.
If I were the retractable type it'd be totally fine as-is,
but depending on the day, even just pulling it back used to be a real struggle.
Yeah, I bet it really does feel like being reborn.
Even with retractable phimosis, I still manually pull mine back for show every time I go to the public bathhouse.
Even with retractable phimosis, I still manually pull mine back for show every time I go to the public bathhouse.
No masturbating for two whole weeks?
'Phimosis-maru' (a cutesy mascot-style nickname) sounds like a good guy.
Re: #44
Masturbation, sex, and sauna are off-limits for 1 month.
Drinking, sports, and soaking in a bathtub are off-limits for 1 week.
Showers are off-limits for 3 days.
Re: #45
A surgery veteran told me masturbating with the foreskin feels better, so it's a bummer that the surgery takes some of the pleasure out of it.
Re: #46
I'm flattered.
Re: #47
That is way too enviable —
I always believed I'd eventually turn into the retractable ("Mars") type myself.
Re: #48
I'm not really interested in going that far.
I'm a scaredy-cat, so I just wanted the bare minimum procedure.
Masturbation, sex, and sauna are off-limits for 1 month.
Drinking, sports, and soaking in a bathtub are off-limits for 1 week.
Showers are off-limits for 3 days.
Re: #45
A surgery veteran told me masturbating with the foreskin feels better, so it's a bummer that the surgery takes some of the pleasure out of it.
Re: #46
I'm flattered.
Re: #47
That is way too enviable —
I always believed I'd eventually turn into the retractable ("Mars") type myself.
Re: #48
I'm not really interested in going that far.
I'm a scaredy-cat, so I just wanted the bare minimum procedure.
I was also leaning toward paraphimosis, but after repeatedly masturbating with the foreskin, it stretched out and became fully retractable.
People on social media often claim you can lengthen your dick too — did you not try that?
Re: #35
Alright, it's a long story but here it is.
I don't need any softening treatment — I'm not sure exactly how severe it counts as medically, but I consider myself a pretty severe case of the retractable ("Mars") type.
When I was younger, as long as I was in decent shape I could hold it retracted manually for show,
but now that I'm middle-aged with a gut, my belly fat pushes the skin forward over it, so unless conditions are good I can't keep it held back anymore.
Even when I'm warmed up at a hot spring or whatever, depending on the situation I sometimes still can't hold it back and it covers up again.
That said, once I get an erection it retracts on its own at some point, so I think if they cut too much it'd end up too tight and painful when erect.
I say it retracts on its own, but depending on position it can still get covered again, so in practice there's still a bit of excess skin.
So if there's some procedure that's just a little stretching, I'd want to try that.
Alright, it's a long story but here it is.
I don't need any softening treatment — I'm not sure exactly how severe it counts as medically, but I consider myself a pretty severe case of the retractable ("Mars") type.
When I was younger, as long as I was in decent shape I could hold it retracted manually for show,
but now that I'm middle-aged with a gut, my belly fat pushes the skin forward over it, so unless conditions are good I can't keep it held back anymore.
Even when I'm warmed up at a hot spring or whatever, depending on the situation I sometimes still can't hold it back and it covers up again.
That said, once I get an erection it retracts on its own at some point, so I think if they cut too much it'd end up too tight and painful when erect.
I say it retracts on its own, but depending on position it can still get covered again, so in practice there's still a bit of excess skin.
So if there's some procedure that's just a little stretching, I'd want to try that.
Glad you took the plunge and got it exposed —
masturbating with lotion, or using a masturbation sleeve (onahole), feels insanely good now.
It's on a whole different level — makes you wonder what all your past masturbation even was.
masturbating with lotion, or using a masturbation sleeve (onahole), feels insanely good now.
It's on a whole different level — makes you wonder what all your past masturbation even was.
Did they shave the hair and give you a local anesthetic?
Re: #49
Ah, so it's the kind of retractable phimosis where it's hard to keep the skin pulled back.
If you've got excess skin, cutting is probably the fastest fix.
There's design-cut options and non-cutting procedures too —
and in the consultation you can go into detail about your preferences for the final look,
plus they'll explain what's possible and what your treatment options are,
so if you're genuinely curious, I'd recommend getting at least one free consultation.
Re: #51
I can't wait.
I was jerking off about 3 times a week, so a month of abstinence is going to be a real ordeal.
Re: #52
I went without shaving.
They gave me about 10 injections of anesthetic at the base,
but from the very first one it hurt less than a flu shot —
just a little prick, really.
Re: #53
If some guy in his early 20s at peak sex drive went through this, it'd be genuinely brutal.
Ah, so it's the kind of retractable phimosis where it's hard to keep the skin pulled back.
If you've got excess skin, cutting is probably the fastest fix.
There's design-cut options and non-cutting procedures too —
and in the consultation you can go into detail about your preferences for the final look,
plus they'll explain what's possible and what your treatment options are,
so if you're genuinely curious, I'd recommend getting at least one free consultation.
Re: #51
I can't wait.
I was jerking off about 3 times a week, so a month of abstinence is going to be a real ordeal.
Re: #52
I went without shaving.
They gave me about 10 injections of anesthetic at the base,
but from the very first one it hurt less than a flu shot —
just a little prick, really.
Re: #53
If some guy in his early 20s at peak sex drive went through this, it'd be genuinely brutal.
If you've lived with phimosis all the way into your late 20s,
people around you must have already clocked it by now — at the urinal, at the bathhouse —
so honestly, if you suddenly showed up fully exposed at this age, I feel like people might actually rib you for it.
people around you must have already clocked it by now — at the urinal, at the bathhouse —
so honestly, if you suddenly showed up fully exposed at this age, I feel like people might actually rib you for it.
Re: #55
I go to the sauna and bathhouse with friends a lot, so they'll probably notice.
But since I usually covered up with a towel anyway,
and I tended to pull it back manually for show,
and I don't think my friends actually keep track of the state of my dick,
I figure it'll work out somehow.
I don't really remember what my friends' dicks look like either.
Re: #56
Right.
I was told to leave the first bandage on without changing it for 2 days,
but apparently from day 3 onward I have to change it every single day until 2 weeks have passed.
Re: #57
Yeah, there really are a lot of guys with the excess-skin type of phimosis too.
But speaking as a paraphimosis guy myself, if it's just excess-skin-type retractable phimosis, I don't think surgery is necessary at all.
Re: #59
It's wild how it gets stuck at that halfway point.
Honestly I kind of like the look of being half-exposed, though.
I go to the sauna and bathhouse with friends a lot, so they'll probably notice.
But since I usually covered up with a towel anyway,
and I tended to pull it back manually for show,
and I don't think my friends actually keep track of the state of my dick,
I figure it'll work out somehow.
I don't really remember what my friends' dicks look like either.
Re: #56
Right.
I was told to leave the first bandage on without changing it for 2 days,
but apparently from day 3 onward I have to change it every single day until 2 weeks have passed.
Re: #57
Yeah, there really are a lot of guys with the excess-skin type of phimosis too.
But speaking as a paraphimosis guy myself, if it's just excess-skin-type retractable phimosis, I don't think surgery is necessary at all.
Re: #59
It's wild how it gets stuck at that halfway point.
Honestly I kind of like the look of being half-exposed, though.
It's annoying that peeing gets the bandage dirty and you have to change it.
My grandpa and dad were both fully exposed,
but I learned to hump the floor around age 5, which stretched my skin out into phimosis.
Because of that, even though I'm 17cm erect, the skin still fully covers all the way to the tip.
but I learned to hump the floor around age 5, which stretched my skin out into phimosis.
Because of that, even though I'm 17cm erect, the skin still fully covers all the way to the tip.
More importantly, what's with the half-exposed guy?
Come on, that's just half-assed — go train yourself to retract it the rest of the way.
Come on, that's just half-assed — go train yourself to retract it the rest of the way.
Background and Key Points of This Topic
Medically, phimosis is divided into three types — retractable, true, and paraphimosis — and health insurance only covers cases like true phimosis or paraphimosis, where the skin compresses the glans and causes blood-flow problems or difficulty urinating. The fact that surgery for purely cosmetic reasons is generally out-of-pocket isn’t something that comes across just from the thread’s comment “it’s covered by insurance, so definitely go for it.” In Japan, the notion that “phimosis is embarrassing” spread widely from the 1990s onward through cosmetic-surgery clinic advertising, and this isn’t necessarily a common attitude overseas. Even within the thread, opinions are split between those in favor of surgery and those who stretched their skin to shift into retractable phimosis instead — suggesting this isn’t really a question of which choice is “correct,” but rather one where the right call depends on whether symptoms like paraphimosis are actually present.
*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Just had phimosis surgery, ask me anything.”
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