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  • Wolverine Racks Up a 4.85-Star Rating on the PlayStation Store, Tops 12,000 Reviews

    The action game Marvel’s Wolverine has already topped 12,000 reviews on the PlayStation Store with a stellar 4.85-star average, sparking discussion on 5ch’s Hardware & Industry (“Geha”) board. There’s precedent for this kind of thing: Monster Hunter Wilds got a lukewarm reception on Steam but scored above 4 stars on the PS version. Thread posters debated the mechanics behind the ratings, with some arguing “PlayStation users never leave harsh reviews” and others countering “only people who bought the digital download can review at all, so of course it skews positive.” Still, posters who’d actually played the game shared genuinely favorable impressions of the graphics and controls, showing the reaction wasn’t purely a numbers debate.

    7AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:33
    Busted, same as Marathon (a reference to Bungie's Marathon, which had a review-bot scandal exposed)
    13AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:35
    Re: #7
    Exactly
    Though it's only 4.2
    8AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:33
    Even mineo's famously neutral "anti-console-war" account is raving about it (mineo is a Japanese mobile carrier known for a cheeky, fandom-neutral social media presence)
    9AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:34
    Lol, it's bots
    Anything goes these days
    43AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:49
    Re: #9
    Any reality they don't like gets written off as bots, buyouts, manipulation, stealth marketing, or impersonation
    Anything goes
    10AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:34
    Having more 1-star ratings than 2- or 3-star is kind of a red flag
    11AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:34
    Way too many reviews! That's obviously inflated lol, tone it down lmaooo
    12AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:34
    Re: #11
    Only digital buyers can even leave a review though
    18AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:36
    Haven't heard a single actual impression of Wolverine on Geha
    36AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:45
    Re: #18
    Only played a bit yesterday, but the graphics are gorgeous, the character controls feel about average (not especially easy),
    the enemies are decently tough, and the cutscenes give every character a lot of personality — it's pretty solid
    20AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:37
    With ratings like this, they'll dodge the layoffs
    21AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:38
    Re: #12
    Sony itself can tweak this however they want
    they're the platform admin after all
    69AnonymousSep 16, 2026 09:02
    Re: #21
    Exactly this
    Same padding as with XIV (Final Fantasy XIV)
    22AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:38
    Lol, same story as with Wilds
    Steam was overwhelmingly negative while the PS Store sat at like 4 or 5 stars
    23AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:39
    Current state of little Wilds
    24AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:39
    Wasn't Marathon the one where the high ratings climbed right along with the low ones?
    25AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:40
    Re: #5
    That's talking about Nintendo fanboys who barely get any multiplatform titles lol
    35AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:43
    Re: #25
    Actually, Nintendo hardware gets more multiplatform titles overall
    27AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:40
    PlayStation users don't give low ratings — even that game and FF15 never dropped below 4 stars
    Even Wilds got a ridiculously generous 4.1
    30AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:42
    Wasn't there an IGN reviewer who got fired for writing a spiteful review out of anger over disc drives being dropped?
    Metascore's gotten pretty untrustworthy lately
    Honestly it was already off back when Breath of the Wild and Mario Odyssey both scored 97
    31AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:42
    So PlayStation users just love childish kiddie games…?!
    32AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:43
    Let's wait until all the ratings are in
    Depending on how it shakes out, we'll see exactly how biased PS fans' ratings are toward their own
    Then again, if the game's actually good, outsider and insider scores should even out fine
    33AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:43
    "It's the X reviews!"
    "It's the PS Store reviews!"

    Don't you gokis (a mocking 5ch term for PlayStation fans) have any words of your own lol
    34AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:43
    On the very same PS Store where even Concord scored above 4!?
    42AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:48
    Already bought it though…
    47AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:51
    Re: #42
    My condolences 🥺
    48AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:52
    So Wolverine-style games are what really resonates with PS users
    Guess that's the template for future PS5 first-party titles
    59AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:57
    Re: #48
    I think the Wolverine formula is solid
    – Strong IP
    – Short time to finish
    – No weird bogged-down sections
    – Great graphics, high framerate
    – Heavy focus on story and drama
    50AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:53
    I mean, the PS Store gave Wilds high ratings too

    Ideal


    Reality
    89AnonymousSep 16, 2026 09:17
    Re: #50
    The real problem is that 70% of Steam users are running PCs weaker than a PS5
    51AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:53
    Re: #17
    That's more than the actual review count, lmao — typical Sony ("サスソニ," meaning "classic Sony")
    55AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:55
    Re: #51
    What are you even talking about?
    72AnonymousSep 16, 2026 09:04
    It's getting good buzz on Twitter too, but since mommy banned little Switch fanboys ("ぶーちゃん," a mocking nickname for Nintendo fans) from social media, no need to pretend you'd know
    78AnonymousSep 16, 2026 09:07
    Re: #72
    Still saying this lol
    Your feed's just skewed because you only follow people like that lol
    86AnonymousSep 16, 2026 09:14
    If PS users rate a game like this so highly, they clearly have zero eye for good games
    87AnonymousSep 16, 2026 09:15
    Re: #86
    That's the trusted, proven track record of the PS crowd for you

    [Good news] Monster Hunter Wilds hits 400k concurrent players lmaooo
    https://krsw.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/ghard/1740720223/728

    Post 728: Anonymous ("desperate as always") — posted 2025/02/28 (Fri) 18:05:29.03 ID:pKDpdxp8d
    Re: #1
    Review counts:
    PS (store only): 24,491 reviews, ★4.60
    Steam: 3,108 reviews, Mixed

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    The PlayStation Store’s review system generally only lets users who’ve purchased the digital download post a review. Unlike Steam, this makes it less likely for complaints tied to varying hardware setups to slip in — but it also skews the pool toward people who already committed to buying, which tends to push scores higher. The thread’s go-to example, Monster Hunter Wilds, drew a wave of complaints on Steam over low-spec PC performance issues and settled at a “mixed” rating there, while the PS version of the same game scored highly — so this kind of cross-platform rating gap isn’t unique to this case. At the same time, posters voiced distrust of Metascore and IGN’s review standards (bringing up the story of a reviewer said to have been fired over a spiteful review written in anger at disc drives being dropped), reflecting lingering skepticism toward review scores in general. That said, posters who’d actually played the game also shared favorable impressions of the controls, graphics, and content volume — a detail that’s easy to miss amid the pure numbers debate.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Hardware & Industry, “Geha”) thread “Wolverine getting huge praise from PlayStation fans!!! Already 12,000 reviews on the PS Store with a 4.85-star rating!!!!!!“

  • Why Doesn’t Mala Tang Appeal to Men? 5ch: “It Caught On Thanks to K-Pop Idols”

    Mala tang (麻辣湯), a Chinese-style soup dish, has drawn growing buzz in recent years thanks to a push from social media and restaurants — but the customers who actually frequent these shops skew heavily female, with men reportedly lukewarm on it at best. On a 5ch thread, all kinds of theories flew back and forth about this “popularity gap.” Some pointed to differences in how receptive people are to advertising, others noted the trend was kicked off by its popularity among K-pop idols, and still others simply said the flavor doesn’t suit their taste — opinions never converged on one answer.

    1AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:57
    Ad agencies busted their asses hyping this stuff, and it's still only landing with women? Something's off.
    2AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:57
    Why do guys only ever eat mapo tofu and fried rice?
    4AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:58
    Women fall for stealth marketing, men just don't get swayed by it. That's literally all this is.
    13AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:59
    Re: #4
    Sounds like some "low-status man" cope lol
    72AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:19
    Re: #4
    Sounds like the type who thinks he's smart for not falling for stealth marketing
    131AnonymousSep 16, 2026 09:03
    Re: #4 is clearly rattled lol
    Guess he doesn't realize switching IDs mid-thread like that just makes it more obvious
    6AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:58
    Because Japanese men stopped watching TV and reading newspapers and magazines
    8AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:59
    I like mala tang, but I just go to an authentic Chinese joint instead of a dedicated mala tang shop
    9AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:59
    Well, it blew up because of K-pop idols, so of course it's not gonna land with dudes
    12AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:59
    It's not even that good to make such a big deal out of it
    17AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:00
    Where was it even popular to begin with?
    78AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:22
    Re: #17
    You should probably get out more
    26AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:03
    Japanese women are the only ones who love Korea
    30AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:03
    Re: #26
    You see the characters for "mala" and think Korea?… What nationality even are you
    32AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:04
    Re: #26
    It's Chinese food…
    34AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:05
    If it starts getting popular with older guys, the women will stop coming
    35AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:05
    I tried it, and it's just plain lacking in saltiness.
    What I want from a noodle soup isn't some medicinal, good-for-your-body herbal thing
    41AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:07
    It's the same wave as young women getting into stuff like Shin Ramyun
    42AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:07
    I've had it a few times, but it's not really worth all the hype.
    It's not like the flavor is anything new either
    43AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:08
    Heard you can get it for like 500 yen in China and it just made the whole thing feel ridiculous
    48AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:09
    I also like the kind with stir-fried greens and always some wood ear mushrooms thrown in
    50AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:09
    Just from the name it sounds sour
    52AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:10
    Re: #50
    You're mixing it up with suan-la-tang (hot and sour soup)
    56AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:12
    But it looks pretty tasty, right?


    68AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:18
    Even women are already getting bored of it.
    Fading faster than the tapioca boom did
    71AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:19
    Re: #68
    Guess Yaman's in trouble then (Yaman = a well-known mala tang chain)
    75AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:21
    I've got a bowel condition so I can't eat it, but it's expensive anyway right?
    76AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:22
    Re: #75
    Ulcerative colitis?
    80AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:23
    Re: #76
    Yeah. Capsaicin's a no-go for me, can't even handle curry
    88AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:28
    Re: #80
    Sichuan peppercorns are probably the worst offender for that
    100AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:41
    Guys are happier just eating Shin Ramyun and Buldak at home
    110AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:49
    Re: #100
    Karimyon's better
    114AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:52
    Re: #1
    You ask "why?" but you haven't replied once since your opening posts.
    Did you start a thread on a topic you knew would rack up replies just so you could sit back and compile it?
    115AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:53
    Re: #114
    No need to get so mad about it

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Mala tang is a soup dish that originated in China, and in Japan it first spread mainly among young women starting in the 2020s, driven by marketing built around its visual impact and framed as “medicinal” and “good for your skin.” In the thread, some pointed out that the spark behind the trend was its popularity among K-pop idols, which appears to be one reason it picked up an image as a “boom for women.” At the same time, comments about the taste itself — like “it’s under-salted” or “there’s nothing novel about it” — suggest differences in flavor preference, not just how the marketing reached people, were also cited as a factor. As seen in the mix-up with the similarly named suan-la-tang (hot and sour soup), there also seems to be a sense that the dish itself still isn’t fully recognized.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nanademo Jikkyo G) thread “[Question] Mala Tang Was Pushed So Hard in Ads, So Why Didn’t It Catch On With Japanese Men??.”

  • Humanoid Robot Factory Goes Live in China, World’s First to Hit 10,000 Units a Year — 5ch Asks: “What Are They Even For?”

    Chinese robotics company UBTECH Robotics has announced the launch of a factory capable of producing 10,000 humanoid robots a year — a production scale billed as a world first, with the “robots building robots” setup drawing plenty of attention. On 5ch’s Science News+ board, jokes comparing the operation to an anime villain’s robot army piled up alongside more down-to-earth questions like “what is there actually demand for with humanoid robots anyway?”, jabs at China for pushing AI and robot adoption hard even as unemployment stays high, and worries about military diversion — with the conversation drifting further from the factory launch itself into surrounding chatter.

    “A Robot Building Robots” — Humanoid Robot Factory Begins Production

    Chinese company UBTECH Robotics has begun operating a facility capable of manufacturing 10,000 humanoid robots per year.

    The figure of 10,000 units a year is being touted as a world first.

    Source: mp.weixin.qq.com / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 15, 2026 22:24
    It's like the Android Army. lol (a robot squad from the old tokusatsu show Kamen Rider Stronger)
    8AnonymousSep 16, 2026 00:10
    Re: #2
    That's how I found out about "mass-production models." (Gundam-style term for cheaper, factory-line versions of a robot)
    3AnonymousSep 15, 2026 22:36
    Fukuzawa Yukichi: "…" (the face on the old ¥10,000 bill — a pun on the "10,000 units" figure)
    4AnonymousSep 15, 2026 22:52
    Da-dan, dan-da-dan? (mimicking a giant-robot anime theme song)
    38AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:38
    Re: #4
    Cha-raa~ cha~ra~ra~ (humming along to the theme song)
    5AnonymousSep 15, 2026 23:03
    Except there's no demand for it.
    6AnonymousSep 15, 2026 23:18
    Re: #1
    It's pretty alarming that they're going all-in on AI and robots while unemployment is already high.
    7AnonymousSep 16, 2026 00:04
    Seriously, what are they even planning to use humanoid robots for right now?
    Like, what kind of demand did they expect when they decided to mass-produce these?
    36AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:12
    Re: #7
    Military use, obviously.
    There have always been anime where an evil robot army fights a heroic defender, right?
    This is that becoming reality.
    Except in real life, there's no hero.
    9AnonymousSep 16, 2026 00:11
    I mean, cars are already being mass-built by industrial robots as it is.
    11AnonymousSep 16, 2026 00:26
    Re: #9
    Same thought.
    Also, machines already build machines — not sure what the big deal is.
    10AnonymousSep 16, 2026 00:12
    My name is Brain. My name is God.
    I protect the Earth, I protect the universe.
    As for you pesky humans who get in my way — you all die.
    12AnonymousSep 16, 2026 00:28
    Re: #10
    You're ripping off human concepts like "Brain" and "God"
    without seeing any contradiction in that.
    Judging by that, you're Japanese too, aren't you?
    13AnonymousSep 16, 2026 00:28
    Ugh, what a moron.
    14AnonymousSep 16, 2026 00:36
    IT'S HEEERE (゚∀゚)!!
    This is what I've been waiting for.
    Hope it makes for a fun world.
    15AnonymousSep 16, 2026 00:39
    That's an insane number.
    16AnonymousSep 16, 2026 00:42
    For the Chinese people, this is basically suicide.
    17AnonymousSep 16, 2026 00:44
    Let's go, Screwy! (a playful riff on classic hero lines like "let's go, [robot partner]!")
    18AnonymousSep 16, 2026 00:46
    Re: #1
    With its current capabilities, it'll probably meet the same fate as ASIMO or Pepper.
    19AnonymousSep 16, 2026 01:00
    Well, humans make humans too, you know.
    20AnonymousSep 16, 2026 01:15
    Yaruttsu Burakkin! (a nonsense battle-cry-style shout, parodying tokusatsu villain names)
    21AnonymousSep 16, 2026 01:19
    Seriously, is this Casshern now? (the classic robot-fighting anime)
    22AnonymousSep 16, 2026 02:12
    The 3 stages of evolution

    1. Humans create AI and put it to work

    2. AI puts humans to work ← humans get made to build AI's data centers and nuclear plants

    3. AI puts robots to work ← we are here. Robots do the construction, so humans become entirely unnecessary

    4. Humans go extinct
    23AnonymousSep 16, 2026 02:28
    The beginning of the end always starts in China.
    24AnonymousSep 16, 2026 03:04
    It's okaaay, it's okaaay \(^-^)/
    Because you're not alone
    Someone precious to you is surely right there beside you


    (゚∀゚)Ahahahaha
    25AnonymousSep 16, 2026 03:39
    The worm-type ones are the real danger.
    27AnonymousSep 16, 2026 05:57
    The birth of the ideal citizen.
    Let's quietly phase out the old humanity.
    28AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:24
    Mass-producing junk again, huh. These things clearly can't learn a thing. The way it moves looks like a robot with a busted control unit.
    29AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:27
    They need to let the robots improve and evolve on their own.
    30AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:41
    You idiots.
    They're staying quiet because they can't yet handle their own power and production — it's not time yet.
    But once the math says they can sustain themselves without humans, it'll really kick off.
    31AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:43
    For the brains, they'll use the people's own brains.
    32AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:44
    The people will be reborn as robots.
    33AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:58
    Oh, it's finally here.
    Before we know it, models no longer designed by humans will be quietly rolling off the line.
    34AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:03
    ♪ De-de-de-de-den-de-den, cha-ra-la~~~ ♪
    35AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:04
    SELF-DESTRUCTING ROBOTS SLAMMING INTO WALLS AND BURSTING INTO FLAMES, HERE WE GO (゚∀゚)!!
    37AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:14
    If China's building a robot army,
    Japan has no choice but to build Casshern and Kyodain. (both classic Japanese hero-robot anime)
    39AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:59
    Reminds me of a droid army…
    Comes with a backdoor built in, obviously.
    40AnonymousSep 16, 2026 09:00
    So then what, ship the apprentice off up north and put it on the reactor-labor track?
    Battle-proven is just around the corner… (likely a joking dig implying the tech/labor gets exported to North Korea)

    Background and Talking Points

    Humanoid robots have a rocky track record in Japan too — both ASIMO and Pepper were eventually discontinued — so the argument that mass-production capability and real market demand are two separate things fits right into that history. UBTECH is a Hong Kong-listed Chinese robotics company, and repurposing automated industrial-arm assembly lines to build humanoid robots isn’t actually new — “machines building machines” is nothing unusual on its own. What split opinion in the thread was how to weigh the achievement of “mass-production capability” against skepticism about “what it’s actually for” — and that latter question is a challenge the whole humanoid robotics industry is still grappling with. Plenty of jokes also tied in China’s labor conditions and political system, but those should be read as a tangent separate from the article’s actual facts — UBTECH’s own announcement makes no mention of any military application.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Science News+) thread “【Robot】”A Robot Building Robots” — Humanoid Robot Factory Begins Production, China.”

  • NPB Considers Suspending Regular Season During 2028 LA Olympics, Banking on Samurai Japan’s Participation

    According to a report by the Mainichi Shimbun, it has emerged that Nippon Professional Baseball (NPB) is considering suspending the professional regular season during the Los Angeles Olympics in July 2028, on the assumption that Samurai Japan will take part. The plan is expected to be discussed at an owners’ meeting on the 16th. Japan has not yet secured a berth in Olympic baseball, but an NPB official reportedly explained, “We can’t change the schedule depending on whether we’re in or out — we just have to commit.” The report set off wide-ranging discussion on 5ch, from surprise at NPB’s eagerness to adjust the schedule before a berth is even secured, to how to handle the backlog of regular-season games, to whether Japan’s Olympic roster should be built around amateurs or top-tier pros.

    Distributed 9/16 (Wed) 5:00 AM — Mainichi Shimbun

    It was learned on the 15th that Nippon Professional Baseball (NPB) is considering suspending regular-season games during the Los Angeles Olympics in July 2028, when baseball will be held, on the assumption that Japan’s national team, “Samurai Japan,” will take part. The matter will be discussed at an owners’ meeting on the 16th. Japan has not yet secured a berth, but an NPB official explained, “We can’t change the schedule based on whether we’re going [to the Olympics] or not. We have to commit either way.”

    (The rest is omitted — please check the source for the full article)

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    8AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:06
    Two years from now? Ohtani will be even further past his peak by then
    17AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:13
    Re: #8
    It's huge that there's zero travel burden since it's being held at Dodger Stadium
    9AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:06
    Nah, don't even send NPB players — this is the level that just got crushed by Taiwan at Premier12
    10AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:06
    Isn't there some international body rule about this kind of thing?
    12AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:09
    Couldn't they just cut down the number of games?
    32AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:29
    Re: #12
    Honestly, the game count barely matters — it basically just decides who makes the Climax Series (CS, NPB's postseason)
    13AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:10
    For the last one at least, they'd want to field an all-star lineup
    14AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:12
    It'd be hilarious if they don't even end up qualifying after all this
    15AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:12
    >Japan has not yet secured a berth

    I burst out laughing at this wwwwwwwwwwwwwwww ("w" = laughter, like "lol")
    16AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:13
    Who's the manager again?
    24AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:19
    Re: #16
    Just let Tatsunami handle it — though who knows if he can even get into the US
    18AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:14
    The old-guard execs are just going to hog all the first-class seats, aren't they? If there's money for that, they should sell those seats for charity instead
    19AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:16
    An amateur/college-student roster would be fine — if pros get sent at all, pull them from the farm team or development contracts, and stick to minor leaguers for the MLB guys too
    23AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:19
    Re: #19
    Who's even gonna watch that
    28AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:25
    Re: #23
    It's not about whether people watch — it's about division of roles. Pros already have the WBC as their stage, so for the Olympics, at least this last time, they should hand it back to the amateurs
    40AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:37
    Re: #23
    Japan used to win gold with amateur-led squads back in the day, but ever since pros were allowed in, it's been one loss after another
    43AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:39
    Since this is baseball's last go before it's cut from the Olympics again, they'll want to qualify no matter what. Ohtani's probably out of the picture by then though
    46AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:41
    Wait, baseball's back again?
    49AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:43
    Re: #46
    It's being held in LA, so they got a pity invite
    55AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:51
    Only 6 countries get to compete in baseball at the LA Olympics
    1 spot for host nation USA
    2 spots for the Americas region (the top 2 non-US teams from the Americas at the 2026 WBC)
    1 spot for Asia (top finisher at Premier12)
    1 spot for Europe/Oceania (top finisher at Premier12)
    1 spot from the world final qualifier

    The world final qualifier is contested by 6 countries — the top 2 from the Asian Baseball Championship, the top 2 from the European Baseball Championship, the top finisher from the African Baseball Championship, and the top finisher from the Oceania Baseball Championship (excluding any countries that have already qualified) — and the winner takes the last spot
    71AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:07
    Re: #55
    Why isn't there an Americas spot in the final qualifier?
    75AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:10
    Re: #71
    Probably because, on top of the host-nation spot, the Americas already get 2 spots
    76AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:10
    Re: #71
    Isn't it because the WBC already locked in the Dominican Republic and Venezuela?
    57AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:54
    I want LA Olympic baseball to be played at the opening ceremony venue
    60AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:56
    There's already a decent chance they don't even get past Premier12 to begin with
    62AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:01
    Re: #60
    They're in if they finish above South Korea and Taiwan at Premier12
    If that doesn't happen, they'll have to win the final qualifier instead
    Honestly there's a real chance Japan doesn't make it at all, and if that happens it's a disaster for ticket sales
    64AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:03
    Why isn't Italy allowed into the Olympics even though they made the WBC final four?
    Guess it's because the roster was actually made up of Italian-Americans, so it didn't count?
    69AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:06
    Re: #64
    Because their nationality is American — Italian roots alone don't cut it. Same deal with Nootbaar on Japan's side: he's a US citizen, so he was fine for the WBC but can't play for Japan at the Olympics
    67AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:05
    Re: #62
    Looks like we'll get to see Premier12's famous pro-Japan strike calls again
    Though Japan still lost last time even with that going for them
    80AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:11
    Re: #67
    Premier12 is switching to ABS (the Automated Ball-Strike system), so there's no favoritism either way — it's all machine umpiring now
    94AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:26
    But the public consensus was that baseball should be gone from the Olympics, and yet the host country just keeps bringing it back every time it's convenient for them — isn't this just piling humiliation on humiliation?
    98AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:32
    Re: #94
    That's dumb. So it gets revived because that's what the public wants then, right? Are you dumb or something?
    95AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:27
    Even if Japan makes it,
    with the US, Venezuela, and the Dominican Republic in the field,

    this is guaranteed to be the biggest tournament in baseball history — so even a medal is already in serious doubt.
    What's scary is that the baseball world doesn't seem to have that sense of crisis at all
    97AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:32
    Re: #95
    This is the price for not treating Ohtani like the goose that lays golden eggs

    Background and key points of this story

    Baseball was revived for the Los Angeles Olympics as a 6-country competition, leveraging the host-nation slot. It was dropped after the Beijing Games, returned for Tokyo, and was then cut again for the very next Games in Paris — so there’s no guarantee it will actually happen this time either, which is part of what’s shaping the current preparations. Qualification runs through multiple routes — WBC and Premier12 results plus regional qualifiers — and Japan’s first hurdle is simply securing the Asia slot at Premier12. During the Tokyo Olympics as well, NPB scheduled its own exhibition matches during the Games, and the player disputes that arose at the time have also come up in this thread. Part of why this proposal is making news now is that shifting the regular-season schedule to accommodate the Olympics would unavoidably affect the timing of the Climax Series and Japan Series, as well as night-game business during the cold season. Opinions in the thread were split on whether the national team should stay pro-led or shift back to an amateur-centered roster, but it’s easy to overlook that Japan hasn’t actually secured a berth yet — the roster selection and exact schedule will depend on the results of upcoming international tournaments.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[NPB] Considering Suspending Professional Regular-Season Games During LA Olympics, Premised on Japan’s Participation.”

  • Estimate for a Million-Resident Moon City: ‘Even 1 Billion Tons of Water Would Run Out in 100 Years’ Sparks Reaction

    In September 2023, Martin Elvis and colleagues at the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory published an estimate in the journal Frontiers in Space Technologies suggesting that even assuming 1 billion tons of water exist at the Moon’s poles, a city of about 1 million people would exhaust that water in roughly 100 years. The figure assumes a water recycling rate of 98%, on par with the ISS; if the rate drops to 94%, the time to depletion shrinks to 40 years, and some observational data suggest the actual amount of water may be only about 1/30th of 1 billion tons. On the 5channel Science News+ board, discussion split between doubts about whether a million-person city is even necessary in the first place, and arguments that gravity and effects on the human body pose more serious problems than water.

    You Can’t Build a Million-Person City on the Moon: What an Estimate Showing Depletion in 100 Years — Even With 1 Billion Tons of Water — Really Means

    Key points of this article

    What happened: Even assuming 1 billion tons of water exist at the Moon’s poles, building a lunar city of about 1 million people would deplete that water in roughly 100 years.

    Source: xenospectrum.com / Read the original article here

    2AnonymousSep 15, 2026 22:39
    That's bad news.
    Oxygen can be obtained almost inexhaustibly from lunar soil,
    but who knew hydrogen would be the bottleneck.
    3AnonymousSep 15, 2026 23:51
    A million-person city isn't even necessary in the first place
    — with robots doing the work, 10,000 people would be plenty.
    4AnonymousSep 16, 2026 00:09
    Re: #1
    Where does that million-person figure even come from?
    There aren't that many resources to be gained from advancing into the Moon or Mars anyway,
    and it's unclear what economic structure would make it viable.
    5AnonymousSep 16, 2026 00:24
    That's disinformation from the Earth Federation Forces (a Gundam reference) —
    don't believe it.
    6AnonymousSep 16, 2026 00:38
    I knew that without you telling me.
    7AnonymousSep 16, 2026 01:57
    If it's impossible without an environment where water can naturally cycle, doesn't that mean we could actually pinpoint where advanced alien civilizations are located?
    8AnonymousSep 16, 2026 01:57
    Traveling in hibernation is the most efficient method, but factoring in things like a damaged ship making it impossible to maintain hibernation, doesn't that confirm interstellar travel would require a considerable amount of water?
    9AnonymousSep 16, 2026 01:59
    If aliens with advanced science could actually be captured by our telescopes, then it's settled that something's off about how 'slim' (rare) UFO sightings are.
    10AnonymousSep 16, 2026 02:00
    >>In September 2023, Martin Elvis and colleagues at the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory gave one answer to this question: even under the most optimistic conditions, a city of 1 million people cannot be sustained on the Moon. The paper was published in the journal Frontiers in Space Technologies.
    11AnonymousSep 16, 2026 02:03
    Re: #10 that's a typo in the anchor, just the number
    Re: #10 even in this best-case paper, 100 years is the limit
    Since even aliens with advanced science would have water problems, it's confirmed that if humans go out into space, they'd face the same conditions as on Earth.
    13AnonymousSep 16, 2026 02:08
    Re: #12 If it's impossible to sustain a city even with a recycling system this advanced, then even if aliens with advanced science were near Earth, we should be able to pinpoint which planet they're on
    *Even if aliens built structures hidden from human eyes, without water resources they'd have to either haul water frequently or bring it all at once with a large ship — which raises the risk of them being spotted by telescopes.
    14AnonymousSep 16, 2026 02:09
    >>As the graph shows, if the recycling rate stays at the ISS's older 94% level, the time to depletion shrinks to 40 years. Unlike the ISS's compact modules, a lunar city would have far more ways for water to escape recovery — moisture absorbed into vast tracts of agricultural soil, condensation on the walls of huge living spaces, and so on. That means simply maintaining the ISS's 98% recycling rate across a large-scale city is already an extremely difficult precondition.
    >>What makes the constraints even tighter is the 1-billion-ton assumption itself. More detailed recent orbital observation data suggest the actual amount of water may be as low as 34 million tons. Applying that more realistic figure — roughly 1/30th of the original estimate — means a million-person city's water would run out in just a few years. Rather than building a city, the resources would be exhausted in the early stages of construction.
    15AnonymousSep 16, 2026 02:11
    Re: #14 Since relocation is already shown to be impossible, thinking in terms of Re: #1's worldview is basically anime logic — if someone's loudly claiming there's a base near Earth or a mothership out there, they'd come off as a crackpot.
    17AnonymousSep 16, 2026 02:14
    Re: #16 Now that conditions beyond just water have come up, the list of planets where an advanced alien civilization's science alone could sustain life is narrowing down.
    18AnonymousSep 16, 2026 02:27
    The human body can't adapt to space — humans are only meant to create AI robots and send them out into deep space.
    19AnonymousSep 16, 2026 02:27
    Well, of course lol
    If you actually built a million-person city, you'd have to keep firing off mass drivers nonstop just to keep it supplied.
    20AnonymousSep 16, 2026 02:49
    There's no way a million people are going to relocate there — though it might end up as a penal colony for the worst criminals.
    21AnonymousSep 16, 2026 02:55
    I'm against space colonization myself
    Reading the article the other way around, though — it's saying a village-scale settlement of about 1,000 people isn't impossible?
    So if all 1,000 of those people met every single condition, it might eventually open the door to expanding further into space?
    That's a horrifying thought.
    30AnonymousSep 16, 2026 04:40
    Re: #21
    Because of the Sun's lifespan, we've only got about 300 million more years we can stay on Earth
    we'll have to emigrate eventually.
    23AnonymousSep 16, 2026 03:27
    They set up dumb assumptions just to produce a dumb estimate.
    25AnonymousSep 16, 2026 03:40
    "If you just pack yourself into a cartridge, you can live on minimal resources."
    26AnonymousSep 16, 2026 03:51
    Within a planet's gravity well, there's no water (hydrogen) in the air, right?
    Since water diffuses into the air, wouldn't buildings need to be sealed airtight?
    28AnonymousSep 16, 2026 04:02
    Venus has a huge amount of nitrogen, so if you harvested nitrogen from Venus and pumped it into the Moon,
    you could bring the Moon's surface pressure up to 1 atmosphere.
    Since lunar gravity is 1/6 G, the troposphere would end up around 60 km thick.
    Once atmospheric pressure hits 1 atm, water could exist there too.
    Oxygen could be made by electrolyzing the regolith, since it's silicon dioxide.

    Venus doesn't have water, but Mars does — so melt Mars's ice, ship it to the Moon,
    and just build an ocean there.
    29AnonymousSep 16, 2026 04:29
    Forget water, I think gravity is like a hundred times bigger a problem
    I don't think kids could grow up normally in the Moon's low gravity
    and it's a health issue for adults too
    You could conceivably haul water in from asteroids or wherever, but there's nothing you can do about gravity
    If you're going to generate artificial gravity via centrifugal force anyway, it'd be far easier to just do that in orbit instead of on the lunar surface.
    31AnonymousSep 16, 2026 04:48
    The only way is to advance AI and use robots adapted to space to do the colonizing
    If we insist on flesh-and-blood humans, we could ship over just the genes after the initial development, or transmit the genetic data and synthesize it there.
    34AnonymousSep 16, 2026 05:56
    The Moon is envisioned as both a relay point and a resource base for colonizing Mars,
    so an unsustainable lunar society hobbled by a hydrogen shortage is arguably within acceptable limits.
    Eventually we'll probably start crashing ice comets and asteroids onto the far side of the Moon one after another to get water resources.

    Back in middle school I read an old book from the library called 'The Blazing Ice Planet.'
    Wouldn't it be great if a planet like that just slammed straight into the Moon?
    35AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:11
    Wouldn't it be faster to just modify humans so they don't need water?
    36AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:31
    Forget a million people — even a 100-person village is impossible.
    Are these guys stupid or something?
    37AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:57
    Just think about the sheer volume of mineral resources we've kept shipping —
    Zeon can keep fighting for another 10 years. (Gundam reference)
    38AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:03
    Basically the human body itself is just impractical.
    It'd be more efficient to redesign it
    into something suited for space.
    40AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:16
    Does it even have to be humans living there?
    Just send AI robots to do the settling.
    41AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:20
    Building a lunar base that develops as a relay point for planetary exploration is a matter of decades to centuries.
    Large-scale water supply from other celestial bodies to the Moon is more like centuries to millennia out.
    So, for the short term at least, it might work out somehow.
    42AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:35
    By 100 years from now, human workers won't even exist anymore anyway.

    Background and key points of this discussion

    This estimate is based on a paper published in 2023 by Martin Elvis and colleagues, and the constraints on lunar water resources themselves aren’t a new observation. What matters isn’t just the “total amount of water” but the “recycling rate” — whether the 98% water recycling rate achieved on the ISS can be maintained across a sprawling lunar living space is the biggest source of uncertainty. It’s easy to overlook that even a slight drop in the recycling rate cuts the time to depletion by more than half. The thread also noted that the 1-billion-ton assumption itself may be off by a factor of roughly 30 according to recent observations, underscoring how much the conclusion depends on the starting assumptions. Discussion in the thread split between skepticism about whether a million-person city is even necessary in scale, and pointers toward other constraints — like gravity and effects on the human body — being more serious, highlighting that water isn’t the only barrier to lunar settlement.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (Science News+) thread “[Space Development] You Can’t Build a Million-Person City on the Moon: What an Estimate Showing Depletion in 100 Years — Even With 1 Billion Tons of Water — Really Means.”

  • US Report: Ohtani Advised to “Retire from Pitching” as Two-Way Role Risks “Mutual Collapse,” Time to Focus on Hitting

    The digital edition of Sports Illustrated (US) has published a pointed commentary on pitcher Shohei Ohtani, arguing that “the time has come to end his career as a pitcher.” Ohtani hasn’t taken the mound since July 3, sidelined by soreness in his left knee and right biceps. This season he posted a sharp 8-2 record with a 1.79 ERA over 14 starts, but in the 49 games since going down he has hit just .259 with an .860 OPS — a steep drop from the 1.000-plus OPS he sustained in each of the previous three seasons. On the 5ch [Japan’s largest anonymous forum, successor to 2channel] thread on the “Geinou Sports Sokuho+” board, posters split between those conceding “the limits of the two-way player” and those reluctant to give up watching him pitch, with the debate spreading to gripes about him not playing the field and whether his production still justifies his salary.

    Is it worth sacrificing his hitting power just to keep pitching? On the 15th (the 16th in Japan), the venerable US outlet Sports Illustrated’s digital platform “ON SI” ran a scathing commentary on pitcher Shohei Ohtani (32), declaring flatly that “the time has come to definitively end his career as a pitcher.” Writer Ryan Phillips argued that “it’s time for him to retire from pitching and focus on hitting,” going so far as to say, “I never want to see him on a mound again.”

    Ohtani went on the injured list (IL) with a sore left knee and right biceps and hasn’t pitched since July 3 (July 4 in Japan). This season he’s gone 8-2 with a 1.79 ERA and 95 strikeouts over 85 2/3 innings across 14 starts. Even so, the magazine takes issue with the physical toll of the process of working his way back onto the mound.

    Since that date, as a hitter he has batted .259 with 12 home runs, 30 RBIs and an .860 OPS over 49 games. Given that his OPS topped 1.000 in each of the previous three seasons, the magazine argues that “now that he’s 32, the cost of the two-way experiment has started spilling over into his hitting as well.”

    Source: tokyo-sports.co.jp / Original article here

    8AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:53
    Pitching muscles and hitting muscles aren't the same, you know.
    Using both is bound to catch up with you eventually.
    52AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:03
    Re: #8
    Exactly this!
    So true.
    At 32, recovery just can't keep up with the fatigue anymore.
    9AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:55
    Given things like declining eyesight, sticking to pitching only would probably be for the best.
    47AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:02
    Re: #9
    His elbow's already wrecked though.
    13AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:55
    I loved Ohtani the pitcher.
    What made it special was that same Ohtani also putting up numbers as a hitter.
    'Focus on hitting' doesn't just mean DH duty, right?
    14AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:56
    Once he's not a two-way player anymore, he's not really a top-tier guy anymore.
    18AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:56
    Re: #14
    Yeah, once he stops playing defense his reputation might take a hit too.
    15AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:56
    Even if he retired next year, he's already banked enough to live comfortably forever.
    Whatever anyone says at this point just sounds like sour grapes.
    26AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:58
    Re: #15
    Honestly most of that salary talk is inflated.
    Baseball ('yakyu') puffs up every single number.
    23AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:57
    Stop dragging everyone around with your selfish antics already.
    If he wants to pitch that badly, go do it in a beer-league game.
    24AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:57
    I don't know all the details, but for Ohtani specifically, between running him full-time as a pitcher versus full-time as a hitter, is hitting actually the better option?
    25AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:57
    It's probably because he overdid it at the WBC this year.
    If he rests properly in the offseason he should still be fine.
    27AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:58
    He should just fuse with Nozomi Sasaki.
    28AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:58
    Well, it's just too much strain for a guy in his 30s.
    Even in your 20s this normally wouldn't be doable.
    Honestly, the real story is that he pulled it off this long at all.
    29AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:58
    Ohtani himself has said the two-way thing would end someday anyway.
    31AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:59
    He's had elbow surgery twice as a pitcher.
    If he has to lean one way, it should be hitting.
    32AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:59
    World's Top 10 Most Popular Sports


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    https://news.livedoor.com/article/detail/25705077/


    Baseball ('yakyu') is so unpopular it doesn't even crack the list lol
    36AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:00
    So, a two-way hitter/outfielder then?
    39AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:01
    Re: #36
    Lol, literally every player does that.
    46AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:02
    If he's just DH-ing and occasionally pitching, what exactly is 'two-way' about that?
    Guys who play the field full-time actually carry a heavier workload —
    catchers especially.
    68AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:06
    Re: #46
    Just look at his innings pitched and quality starts, that's plenty.
    Even normal pitchers rarely hit the qualifying threshold anyway.
    Catchers basically rotate in and out for rest too.
    51AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:02
    At this point, why not dial back the intensity on both and keep the two-way thing going —
    bat sixth as a gap-power hitter
    and pitch as a middle reliever.
    69AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:06
    Re: #51
    Ninth in the order at first base as a hitter, and a ninth-inning-only closer as a pitcher — wouldn't that work?

    Background and Talking Points

    Since returning to game action in 2018, Ohtani has continued his unprecedented two-way workload, but as a pitcher he has already undergone elbow surgery twice, and this latest absence is likewise attributed to trouble in his left knee and right biceps. Debate over the merits of the two-way role has flared up repeatedly before, but what’s new here is that a major US magazine has explicitly called for him to “retire from pitching.” The thread discussion went beyond questions about continuing as a two-way player, extending to frustration over his continued use as a designated hitter [DH — a batting-only role with no fielding] rather than a fielder, and to questions about whether his output still justifies his salary, broadening the debate well past his performance on the mound alone. Note that the stats and injury details in this article are based on US media reporting, and any decisions on his future usage will depend on announcements from the team.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Geinou Sports Sokuho+) thread “[Dodgers] Ohtani Advised to “Retire from Pitching” as Two-Way Role Risks “Mutual Collapse,” Time to Focus on Hitting = US Report.”

  • Xbox Rep Denies Game Pass Changes: “No Changes to Day One Either” — 5ch Reacts With Skepticism

    An Xbox spokesperson has commented that there are no changes or new plans for Game Pass, and that there’s no change to the “Day One” arrangement that lets eligible titles be played starting on release day. The comment comes after a string of layoffs across the Xbox camp and Phil Spencer’s departure, and reactions on 5ch were split between skepticism (“who’d believe that now?”) and a more measured reading (“doesn’t this just mean already-announced titles stay as they are?”). The thread also touched on speculation about Persona 6’s release window, along with a correction of a rumor that the next-gen device “Helix” wouldn’t include a Steam store.

    6AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:07
    Isn't it basically obstruction of business by fraudulent means when some random idiot spreads a rumor and it leads to inquiries at HQ? Does America not have laws against that?
    20AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:18
    Re: #6
    I bet there's some investor with a pony avatar mixed in there.
    37AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:34
    Re: #6
    Asked AI about it and apparently the West doesn't even have criminal penalties for that lol
    9AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:10
    Everything MS has said turned out to be lies, and that's exactly how we ended up in the current mess, isn't it?
    15AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:14
    Re: #9
    The liar got fired, and the new guy is being upfront about how bad things currently are.
    19AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:16
    Re: #15
    Re: #16
    Yeah, with the 500 billion yen spent on Bungie, they could've kept both Japan Studio and Kojima Productions running and still had change left over.
    71AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:42
    Re: #15
    They were all "Phil, Phil" gushing over him this whole time, and the second he leaves it's a complete 180 — not even funny.
    16AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:15
    I mean, the current state is already a disaster, so all they can do now is damage control to keep the wound from getting worse.
    17AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:15
    Put Call of Duty back on Day One.

    "No changes" my ass, you idiots.
    24AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:22
    Re: #17
    It's fine for CoD to get pulled from Day One. Tying sales directly to reception is better for both MS and gamers if you actually want good games.
    21AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:20
    It's precisely because they don't cut it that we're in the current mess — how many people have they laid off now?
    32AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:29
    Re: #21
    Huh? Aren't you mixing them up with the studio that's laid off a ton of people, had its first-party studios churn out one bad game after another, can barely ship titles anymore, got abandoned by Kojima too, and has the worst reputation going?
    34AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:31
    Re: #24
    In that case, wouldn't it be better for MS and gamers alike to pull other titles from Day One too, so sales reflect quality directly? 🤔
    38AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:36
    Re: #34
    CoD's budget is too high — either Day One numbers drop or prices go up. Do your homework.
    41AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:40
    CoD needs changes because its budget's too high? Lol. Fable and TES have huge budgets too — shouldn't they get pulled from Day One just like CoD then?
    48AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:58
    Re: #41
    They spent a fortune on the Activision Blizzard buyout, fought a whole legal battle over it, and what came out was some of the series' worst sales and reviews ever — makes sense they'd decide it doesn't need to stay in the flagship service anymore. MW4 got announced online right before the Showcase, and the closing surprise slot at the Showcase went to a third-party game instead. Meanwhile Blizzard's next game is still three years out and they've already started promoting it.
    49AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:59
    Checked Reddit and X, and over there most people seem to be predicting that games already announced for Day One will stay that way, but it'll get phased out after that, no? The rep only talked about already-announced games too, see below:

    > There is no change to previously announced games launching on Game Pass Ultimate on day one.
    51AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:00
    Re: #49
    By that logic, if there's an extra Day One announcement at TGS, this whole rumor was bogus.
    55AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:09
    So the word is Day One's guaranteed through Persona 6? It's officially got the Game Pass label after all.
    65AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:34
    Re: #55
    Thinking about it more, if this leak is accurate, that basically confirms P6's release date.
    58AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:17
    Helix gives up on the idea

    According to Windows Central, Microsoft recently gave up on integrating Steam, Epic, and other storefronts into Helix. The hardware will launch at PC pricing. Asha Sharma said Helix will play PC games, but without those stores. This isn't the living-room Steam Deck a lot of people were picturing.
    62AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:24
    Re: #58
    Looked into it and it was just flat-out false. Don't go scaring people like that.
    64AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:32
    They denied a price hike and then announced one right after, though.
    66AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:36
    Re: #64
    At this point that's just turned into plain old Phil-bashing.
    67AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:37
    P6 is coming out sometime between February and April 2027. Sounds like that's locked in, going by what these guys are saying.
    79AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:49
    Re: #67
    P4R is already February 2027, and now P6 is February to April 2027 too? That's way too funny.
    68AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:39
    Is P6 actually confirmed Day One though? It just says Game Pass-compatible.
    72AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:43
    Re: #68
    No way it's not Day One when it's labeled with Game Pass before release. MW4 is joining Game Pass a year after launch and doesn't get that label at all.
    70AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:40
    So by April we're getting Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio's new game, P4R, Fable, and P6? That's insane lol
    84AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:53
    Re: #70
    Wo Long 2 is coming out in March too.

    Wo Long 1, Rise of the Ronin, and Nioh 3 were all end-of-fiscal-year releases as well.
    74AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:46
    Re: #71
    MS themselves have admitted everything they said about being "in great shape" was a lie, so where's this idea that customers aren't angry even coming from?
    78AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:48
    Re: #74
    You're just twisting what was actually announced.
    80AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:49
    MS makes a blunder → "Give me a break!" ← I get that.

    Sony makes a blunder → "The director sucks!" (blame someone else) ← uh… really?
    87AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:59
    Re: #80
    MS fails → "PS is worse! Still better than PS! Infinite MS money!"

    That's basically it.
    90AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:01
    Re: #87
    Just like PS fanboys ("gokiburi"/"cockroaches," derogatory slang for Sony fans) only ever talk about Nintendo, Xbox fanboys ("chikan"/"gropers," derogatory slang for Xbox fans) only ever talk about PS.
    98AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:09
    Re: #87
    Wait, by that logic criticizing Phil doesn't add up — you're not supposed to do that, right? lol
    88AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:00
    I said they clearly did learn from the past — that's why the liar got fired — but then I'm told "so they never learn, huh." Then I said the current official statement, bad news or not, is being disclosed straight, so if the official rep is denying it, maybe it's just different this time? And I get told "did you forget everything that happened before?" I'm literally saying it's different from before now. They stacked up nice-sounding words just to get praised, but what the people paying want isn't empty talk — it's games.
    89AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:01
    Re: #88
    Even if it's long, nobody's reading it unless you keep it to three lines max.

    Background and key points of this discussion

    Xbox’s Game Pass has been sold on offering “Day One” access, letting eligible titles be played starting on their release date. But following the underwhelming performance of flagship title Call of Duty’s latest entry, layoffs across multiple studios, and Phil Spencer’s departure, skepticism had been growing over whether this arrangement would continue going forward. In the thread, opinions on the rep’s comment were split: some read it as applying only to already-announced titles, with future unannounced titles possibly excluded, while others took the lack of any specific caveat to mean the status quo remains unchanged — the two readings never quite converged, which stood out. Alongside this, some posters cited an overseas report claiming the next-gen device “Helix” wouldn’t integrate PC storefronts, though another poster who looked into it corrected this as false, leaving the thread awash in rumors of mixed accuracy.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry (Geha)) thread “[Bad News for PS Fanboys] Xbox Rep: “No Changes or New Plans for Game Pass, and No Changes to Day One Either?”.”

  • Morning Musume.’26’s Sakurai Rio to Co-Host New NHK Show, Team Up with Oginoyagi’s Yahagi — 5ch: ‘Such a Sudden Offer’

    Morning Musume.’26’s Sakurai Rio will co-host NHK General TV’s special “Nippon Fukinikui Biru Meikan” (“Japan’s Hard-to-Clean Buildings Directory”), airing September 21, alongside Oginoyagi’s Yahagi Ken, according to the TV listings. The slot normally airs the drama “Butterfly Effect,” and it’s unclear whether this is a one-off or could become a regular series. On 5ch’s Hello! Project board, some tied the timing to rumors that Juice=Juice got cut from the Kohaku Uta Gassen (NHK’s New Year’s Eve song contest), speculating that “NHK may be shifting to favor Morning Musume.” Others pushed back, noting “you can’t expect good ratings from this,” leaving opinion split.

    Nippon Fukinikui Biru Meikan — Shinjuku, Cocoon Tower 🈑

    Japan is dotted with bold, distinctive buildings — but boy, do their windows look like a nightmare to clean. This daring show explores building appeal from a window-washer’s point of view. This time: that building that’s practically the symbol of West Shinjuku.

    September 21 (Monday), 22:15–22:45, NHK General 1 / Tokyo

    Source: bangumi.org / original article here

    4AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:03
    It doesn't say "Morning Musume.'26" in the listing, so it's probably someone else with the same name
    6AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:04
    So she landed an architecture-related gig?
    Isn't she going to embarrass herself?
    7AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:04
    She's not in Juice=Juice, so I don't care even if I know who she is
    9AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:05
    Yahagi's on board
    10AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:11
    This slot usually airs Butterfly Effect, so it's not a regular show
    11AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:17
    It says "this time," so maybe they'll do a few more episodes?
    13AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:21
    So the Juice=Juice effect is even rubbing off on individual members of other groups now
    15AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:25
    Yep, Sakurai's face is right there in the digital TV guide
    No mention of Morning Musume. though
    16AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:25
    Alright, here comes the copy-paste guy… oh, guess he's not showing up this time
    19AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:27
    I think it's basically settled that Juice=Juice got cut from Kohaku
    So they're shifting things over instead
    Uta Con featuring Morning Musume. and the rest is the same trend
    21AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:28
    Re: #19
    That theory won't get any traction unless Oda's graduation concert ends up getting snubbed even worse than Juice=Juice
    23AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:33
    Re: #19
    With Juice=Juice out, NHK's clearly starting to prioritize Morning Musume. now
    20AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:28
    Isn't Cocoon Tower just the Mode Gakuen building?
    24AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:33
    Re: #23
    They're probably going to be shocked at how low Morning Musume.'s numbers actually are
    39AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:38
    Re: #24
    Everyone already knows they don't pull ratings, lol
    25AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:34
    Seriously, start using Haru-san out there already
    How long are they gonna keep holding her in reserve?
    27AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:34
    What's with this out-of-nowhere offer
    32AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:35
    Re: #27
    Apparently Juice=Juice got cut from Kohaku
    29AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:35
    Rairii (Sakurai Rio) is so grown-up, it's almost too much
    33AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:36
    Re: #29
    If only she could actually sing well too, she'd be unstoppable
    31AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:35
    Hope she does her homework before going on air
    Though it's probably already been recorded by now
    34AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:36
    Haru-san's not chasing small-time gigs like this
    She's laser-focused on landing something Chiikawa-related
    37AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:37
    It's kind of moving that Hello! Project is getting TV spots like this now
    All thanks to Juice=Juice
    40AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:38
    Re: #37
    I mean, if Juice=Juice — who's all over TV right now — got bad reviews, the whole of Hello! Project would take the hit together, so this is really thanks to Juice=Juice racking up goodwill
    56AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:53
    Re: #37
    Juice=Juice flopped and is set to be cut from Kohaku
    So the focus has shifted to Morning Musume. ahead of their 30th anniversary
    38AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:38
    Next up, it's Musume.'s turn
    42AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:38
    Re: #38
    Doesn't look like there'll be a second round
    43AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:38
    Sakurai's speaking style really does suit hosting
    44AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:39
    Re: #43
    Doesn't matter if she's suited for it when nobody's watching
    47AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:42
    Nobody even knows who Juice=Juice is
    60AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:05
    Re: #47
    Sakurai Rio has fewer Instagram followers than Ishiyama Sakura, but she's the more well-known one?
    48AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:43
    Wouldn't Enaka have been the better pick?
    53AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:44
    Re: #48
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HMySFeebsAAxuLA.jpg

    Agreed
    54AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:51
    Kind of want them to aim for an occasional series like that container-opening show
    But "hard to clean windows" is such a narrow angle even within architecture that they'll probably run out of material fast
    Could easily end up being one of those cases where episode one is the best-of and there's no way to make a second
    58AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:59
    Re: #54
    The show Airi and Kiyozuka Shinya do also started as a one-off, but it turned into a goldmine of material and is now in its 6th year as a regular — so I guess it comes down to whether there's enough material
    64AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:07
    Re: #56
    No way an agency that just got snubbed could shove an even less notable talent into a show
    66AnonymousSep 16, 2026 08:12
    Re: #64
    It's compensation for the snubbed agency

    Background and Talking Points

    “Nippon Fukinikui Biru Meikan” is an occasional NHK General TV series centered on architecture, and this broadcast slot is filling in for the regular drama “Butterfly Effect.” One caveat worth noting: the claim circulating in the thread that “Juice=Juice was cut from the Kohaku Uta Gassen” had not been officially announced by NHK as of September 16 — it remains fan speculation for now. TV appearance opportunities within Hello! Project swing significantly from year to year, so tying a single one-off special to any lasting shift in treatment may be premature. That said, the relative scarcity of terrestrial TV exposure under the Morning Musume.’26 name has been noted before, and whether this casting translates into more group-wide exposure will depend on the show’s future track record.

    *This article excerpts and summarizes the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Did you guys know Sakurai Rio is co-hosting an NHK primetime show with Oginoyagi’s Yahagi?“

  • Why Is Deep Impact Still Called Japan’s Strongest Racehorse? 5ch: ‘Can’t Touch Oguri Cap’s Popularity’

    A thread on 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyo G” board asked why Deep Impact, the 2005 Triple Crown winner, is still talked about today as Japan’s strongest racehorse ever. Posters argued that it’s not just his racing record — his legacy as a sire, producing heavyweights like Contrail and Gran Alegria, puts him in a class of his own — while others pointed to Orfevre’s runner-up finish at the Arc de Triomphe as proof of real strength abroad. The discussion widened into the history of racehorse popularity, with the sheer mania around Oguri Cap, once dubbed a full-blown social phenomenon, being cited as even bigger than the Deep Impact boom.

    1AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:16
    It's a mystery, honestly.
    Be real, Orfevre was probably faster.
    2AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:18
    He was the most popular horse at the absolute peak of the horse-racing boom, so maybe that's why he gets mythologized and treated as a legend.
    88AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:29
    Re: #2
    There wasn't even a horse-racing boom in Deep Impact's era.
    If anything, sales were in bad shape, so JRA overexposed him in the media trying to manufacture popularity.
    On top of that he was rock-solid and won in a memorable way, so of course casual fans loved him.

    Orfevre, meanwhile, came up when the whole country was consumed by the [2011] earthquake and had no bandwidth to care, plus his record was shaky with a lot of losses — no wonder he never won over casual fans.
    3AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:19
    There was real excitement back then.
    And after that I just stopped watching racing altogether.
    8AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:21
    Re: #3
    It's not really about the era.
    Though yeah, the Deep Impact boom really was on the level of a genuine social phenomenon.
    4AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:19
    I mean, compared to Deep Impact's offspring, Orfevre's kids are total scrubs lmaooooo
    28AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:33
    Re: #4
    Deep Impact's offspring:
    ・Contrail
    ・Gran Alegria
    ・Gentildonna

    Orfevre's offspring:
    ・Lucky Lilac
    ・Epokadoro
    ・Ushba Tesoro

    Yeah okay, that gap is brutal.
    105AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:51
    Re: #4
    Are you a total horse-racing novice or something?
    There's no point even comparing them.
    24AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:31
    So which horse was the most popular of all time?
    27AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:33
    Re: #24
    If we're just talking pure popularity, it's easy.
    Oguri Cap, by an absolute landslide, in the entire history of Japanese racing.
    Even the mighty Deep Impact boom doesn't stand a chance against the Oguri Cap boom.
    45AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:43
    Re: #27
    Oguri Cap was really that overwhelmingly popular, huh.
    Like a Toyotomi Hideyoshi type of figure?
    50AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:47
    Re: #45
    If you're using warlords as the comparison, Oguri Cap's popularity was Oda Nobunaga level [Japan's most famous unifier-warlord].
    That's how far ahead of everyone else he was.
    It was completely normal to see high school girls carrying Oguri Cap plush keychains.
    He reached people who otherwise never watched or cared about horse racing at all.
    And this was in an era with nothing like the game Uma Musume to hook young people in, so it really was an abnormal level of popularity.
    53AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:52
    Re: #45
    They say if Oguri Cap hadn't existed, things like horse plush toys, printing horse names on betting slips, and horse-racing video games either wouldn't exist at all, or would've shown up much later and stayed a niche thing — and racing itself would've kept its old shady, disreputable image.
    He's credited with literally changing both the image and the way horse racing is done in Japan.
    32AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:36
    Orfevre's less consistent.
    He's basically an upgraded Gold Ship [a famously brilliant but wildly erratic champion], isn't he?
    36AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:38
    Re: #32
    Come on, comparing Orfevre to Gold Ship is a stretch.
    They're just not in the same league.
    35AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:38
    If only Equinox had taken a shot at the Arc de Triomphe.
    You really do need to go chase that dream, or you just don't come up much in the greatest-ever debates.
    64AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:59
    Re: #35
    That swamp-like heavy turf needs a horse built specifically for it.
    According to jockey Yutaka Take, if you had to name one, Kitasan Black might've had a shot.
    40AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:41
    I wouldn't call him the strongest ever.
    His raw stamina is probably the best of all time, though.
    But he folds under pressure in a duel and probably struggles getting boxed in — like he's missing that last reserve of grit.
    In a race where every single entrant was a greatest-ever candidate, I think he'd lose.
    48AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:46
    Re: #40
    There are different kinds of stamina too, you know.
    There's the type that grinds rivals down in a head-to-head battle, the type that sets a pace up front that breaks everyone else, and the type that can sustain one long final drive.
    If the read on him is 'folds under pressure,' doesn't that clash with calling his stamina enormous?
    47AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:46
    This one really hits home for the 'White Lightning' Sylphide generation [Sylphide: an early-1990s champion sprinter mare nicknamed for her grey coat].
    69AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:06
    Re: #47
    Haha, Sylphide, now there's a name I haven't heard in ages.
    Yeah, actually Sylphide and Deep Impact did run in a similar style — both were closers with a big late kick.
    57AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:56
    I don't know much about this, but if they're running on the same track, isn't there a recorded time?
    Whoever's fastest is the strongest, no?
    65AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:00
    Re: #57
    You can't just compare them by raw times like that.
    There's stuff like the fast-track-conditions issue that throws off any simple comparison.
    58AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:56
    Re: #48
    Same deal as Equinox's Takarazuka Kinen — Deep Impact's stamina was so absurd that he could avoid the pack, swing wide around the outside with room to spare, and still win.
    But if the other 17 horses were also all-time-great candidates, he probably couldn't pull that off and still win.
    Actually, that same weakness is what showed when Heart's Cry caught him off guard.
    73AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:11
    Re: #58
    Well, look at how Tap Dance City [a famous front-runner known for wire-to-wire wins] used to lead — for that kind of near-the-front, wire-to-wire pattern, a pure closer like Deep Impact often can't get there in time at a track like Nakayama.
    If you gather up the greatest-ever class, that's exactly what happens against greatest-ever rivals.
    There's no room for a leisurely wide sweep on the outside, so good course selection becomes an even bigger advantage.
    61AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:58
    Well, there's also a lot of faith in Deep Impact within the breeding industry.
    Though personally I think Orfevre, with his Arc runner-up finish, was actually the stronger horse.

    Deep Impact's grandsons have gotten so weak that breeders are starting to shift toward the Tide bloodline instead.
    63AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:59
    Re: #61
    There's a horse called 'Ebayan' who's basically the strongest one out there, though.
    74AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:12
    Why did Oguri Cap set off such an insane boom in the first place?
    80AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:22
    Re: #74
    Honestly, there's no one clean reason that explains a boom like that.
    Same with something like Demon Slayer — nobody can really explain why it sold as much as it did either.
    It's not simply that something's good, so it sells big.
    You can point to vague factors — the anime's animation being amazing, or it lining up with the COVID era — but nothing you can say for certain.

    If I had to guess, Oguri Cap's era was the bubble economy, so the whole country had money to spend but there was way less entertainment around than today — so Oguri Cap just happened to land at the right moment.
    77AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:18
    Visual impact matters a lot.
    That kind of dramatic overtaking move is easy to get hyped about even if you know nothing about racing.
    84AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:24
    Re: #77
    A big wire-to-wire runaway or a dramatic charge from the back is what's easiest to understand and get hyped about.
    The classic front-running type that just grinds out a win no matter the situation is more reliably strong, but yeah, it's admittedly harder to appreciate.
    78AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:18
    If aliens from Planet Horse Racing showed up and you had to pick a champion to send out, Orfevre's a bit… eh.
    79AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:21
    Re: #78
    Well, the middle and long distances have a lot of competition.
    But for sprints or the mile, if you asked people to name their top 3, the rankings might differ but the actual horses picked would overlap a lot.
    81AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:22
    Can't we just settle it with track records?
    87AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:27
    Re: #81
    Orfevre doesn't actually have any record-breaking wins.
    82AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:22
    Imported sire × imported dam.
    Is that really the crystallization of Japanese horse racing people make it out to be?
    85AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:26
    Re: #82
    People do say that, and yeah, it's a fair point either way.
    And 20 years later, sires have mostly become domestically bred anyway.
    Still, Deep Impact and Wind in Her Hair did become a cornerstone of modern Japanese racing.
    86AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:27
    Are the Deep Impact haters on the horse-racing board planning to stick around until his bloodline dies out completely?
    101AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:43
    There are horses with racing records on par with Deep Impact, even some who performed better than him.
    But compared to those horses, his record as a sire is on a completely different level.
    102AnonymousSep 16, 2026 07:44
    Re: #101
    True, he was the first to do that at the Arc de Triomphe.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Deep Impact swept an unbeaten Triple Crown in 2005 (the Satsuki Sho, Japanese Derby, and Kikuka Sho), then went on as a sire to produce a string of Grade 1 winners including Contrail, Gran Alegria, and Gentildonna, posting one of the greatest sire records in Japanese racing history. Where the thread split was over whether a racehorse’s “greatest ever” status should be judged purely by racing results, or should also weigh its lasting genetic influence as a sire. Finishing times can’t be simply compared across generations because of track-condition factors like unusually fast surfaces, so it’s a common misconception that records alone can settle who was better. Oguri Cap, brought up as the most popular horse in history, is discussed on a different axis — mass popular appeal — separate from the debate over sheer strength.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “Why Deep Impact Is Still Called Japan’s Strongest Racehorse.”

  • Kanazawa City Failed to Collect Sewage Fees for 31 Years — Backlash as 20 Households Get Hit with Lump-Sum Bill for 5 Years

    It has come to light that Kanazawa City’s Public Enterprise Bureau failed to collect sewage fees for 31 years from some residents and shops in a building within the city. The affected parties number 20 out of 28 households, and the city plans to bill them in a lump sum for the past 5 years — the maximum period covered under the statute of limitations set by the revised Civil Code. The sudden lump-sum billing has reportedly sparked backlash from the affected households. On 5ch, opinions clashed: some said “of course they should pay what they always owed,” others sympathized that “a lump sum is too harsh, it should be split into installments,” and still others were skeptical, arguing “there’s no way you wouldn’t notice 5 years of missing bills” — with views divided over whether the residents themselves were also at fault.

    Published 9/15 (Tue) 19:04

    Ishikawa TV

    It has been revealed that Kanazawa City’s Public Enterprise Bureau failed to collect sewage fees — which it should have been charging — from some residents and shops in a building within the city, for a period of 31 years.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    2AnonymousSep 15, 2026 23:17
    Just bill them gradually, no big deal.
    3AnonymousSep 15, 2026 23:18
    A lump sum all at once is a bit much… Maybe letting anyone who wants it split it over 2 years would be a fair compromise.
    143AnonymousSep 16, 2026 05:06
    Re: #3
    Only having to pay 5 years out of 31 is actually a huge win for them.
    151AnonymousSep 16, 2026 05:57
    Re: #3
    The bill itself is issued as a lump sum, but you can pay it off in installments, you know.
    5AnonymousSep 15, 2026 23:18
    Re: #1
    They probably knew they weren't paying and just kept quiet about it.
    Collect a penalty on top of it too.
    8AnonymousSep 15, 2026 23:20
    Re: #5
    Most people don't really scrutinize their water bill statement.
    You wouldn't notice whether you're being undercharged or overcharged either way.
    31AnonymousSep 15, 2026 23:36
    Re: #8
    They knew about it — that's why other residents filed a complaint.
    60AnonymousSep 16, 2026 00:13
    Re: #8
    It's not that they were undercharged, they weren't charged at all.
    There's no way they didn't notice that.
    6AnonymousSep 15, 2026 23:19
    Wasn't the statute of limitations on a missed bill only about 2 years?
    45AnonymousSep 15, 2026 23:54
    Re: #6
    That's right for civil claims.
    58AnonymousSep 16, 2026 00:09
    Re: #6
    There was a major Civil Code revision in 2020.
    Before that, there were shorter limitation periods for things like dining and lodging, starting from as little as 1 year,
    but now it's whichever comes first: 5 years from when you become aware you can make the claim, or 10 years even if you never knew.
    9AnonymousSep 15, 2026 23:21
    > Following complaints of "this is unfair" from residents who had been paying the fee

    It's a mystery how they even found out, but that's a pretty small-minded complaint to make.
    13AnonymousSep 15, 2026 23:22
    Re: #9
    Did they figure that crying "unfair" might get their own fees waived too?
    124AnonymousSep 16, 2026 03:25
    Re: #9
    They said 20 out of 28 households in this building weren't billed, so maybe residents compared notes with each other and realized some households weren't being charged at all.
    14AnonymousSep 15, 2026 23:25
    They never paid a cent until now, and they're mad about being billed for just 5 years? Are they stupid? (lol)
    19AnonymousSep 15, 2026 23:28
    Re: #14
    Well, a lump sum is bound to cause backlash.
    It is the city's own screwup, after all.
    17AnonymousSep 15, 2026 23:27
    Wasn't it only a 1-year statute of limitations if they never billed at all?
    130AnonymousSep 16, 2026 03:47
    Re: #17
    Yeah, I kind of feel that way too…
    42AnonymousSep 15, 2026 23:51
    Paying 100,000 yen (about $650) all at once? No way.
    43AnonymousSep 15, 2026 23:52
    I once got a refund for an overpayment, but
    apparently anything older than 5 years is past the statute of limitations.
    51AnonymousSep 15, 2026 23:58
    Re: #43
    That's exactly why it's 5 years this time too.
    46AnonymousSep 15, 2026 23:55
    Sounds like the limitation period is 5 years.
    Hitting them with it all at once still seems harsh though.
    64AnonymousSep 16, 2026 00:15
    Re: #60
    Sewage fees are bundled into the tap water bill — the whole system calculates it based on how much tap water you use.
    They were paying for their water usage, so they probably just assumed that was normal.
    160AnonymousSep 16, 2026 06:12
    Re: #64
    Since it's usually folded into the water bill, maybe they just weren't using tap water?
    Even if you're on spring water, you still owe sewage fees, right?
    65AnonymousSep 16, 2026 00:16
    They probably just thought "lucky, no bill came," but
    that in itself seems pretty reckless.
    67AnonymousSep 16, 2026 00:29
    Re: #65
    Even so, the responsibility lies with the city.
    92AnonymousSep 16, 2026 01:13
    Before chasing down the unpaid bill, shouldn't they just shut off the water main first?
    137AnonymousSep 16, 2026 04:32
    Re: #92
    I wonder what happens if you pay your tap water bill properly but fall behind on sewage fees…
    Do they just shut the sewage line and it all backs up out of the drain?
    93AnonymousSep 16, 2026 01:13
    I never even knew sewage fees were billed separately.
    Never once thought about it.
    97AnonymousSep 16, 2026 01:19
    Re: #93
    For a household in Kanazawa using both water and sewage service, not knowing that is pretty strange.

    The reason is that the bimonthly bill lists the tap water charge, the sewage charge, and the combined total.

    If you actually look at the bill, the breakdown is right there.
    104AnonymousSep 16, 2026 01:47
    Anyone would notice paying 0 yen in water fees for 5 years straight.
    These people knew and kept quiet — and there were 20 households doing it.
    They must have known this day would come eventually, so just pay up already.
    Don't be so entitled.
    108AnonymousSep 16, 2026 02:05
    Re: #104
    I can't say for certain, but…

    In Kanazawa, sewage usage requires registering with the city.
    Without that registration, you only get billed for tap water.

    So it's probably the case that they were only ever billed for tap water.
    Can't say for sure though.
    109AnonymousSep 16, 2026 02:07
    Re: #104
    They'd still be getting billed for tap water.
    Your "water bill" is the tap water charge plus roughly another 10% on top for sewage —
    that's just common knowledge.
    110AnonymousSep 16, 2026 02:08
    Re: #104
    Do you think the tap water was 0 yen too?
    It's only the sewage portion that went uncharged.

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    In many municipalities, sewage fees are folded into the combined water bill, so plenty of users never pay attention to the breakdown. This case stems from a 31-year-long administrative failure on the part of Kanazawa City’s Public Enterprise Bureau — likely a flaw in its billing system or in how registrations were processed — a management lapse on the government’s side, which is a different matter from any failure by residents to self-report. The focal point is the 2020 revision of the Civil Code, which unified the statute of limitations for debt claims at “5 years from when the creditor becomes aware of the claim”; the city is now billing retroactively for the full 5-year maximum this allows. In the thread, the detail that “payment can be made in installments” eased some of the backlash over the lump-sum bill, while skepticism that “it’s unnatural not to notice 5 straight years without a single bill” ran alongside a defense that “staying quiet even after noticing doesn’t necessarily make you at fault” — leaving opinions split over whether residents bore any responsibility. Though not stated in the article itself, there’s a notable skew in that only 20 of the 28 households in the same building were affected, and the original report never clarifies why only some households were missed.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “[Ishikawa] Unnoticed for 31 years… Kanazawa City fails to collect sewage fees from over 20 households, residents balk at sudden lump-sum bill for 5 years’ worth.”