Author: Japan Reacts Editorial

  • After being told to quiet her noisy kid, mom claps back: ‘Isn’t Saizeriya that kind of restaurant?’ — thread splits down the middle

    When a fellow customer complained that her kids were being noisy at Saizeriya, a “mom-sama” (a sarcastic 5ch term, “ko-mochi-sama,” used to mock parents seen as entitled) shot back with “Isn’t Saizeriya that kind of restaurant?” — and the exchange blew up on 5ch. Even though it’s marketed as a family-friendly chain, opinions differ on just how much noise should be tolerated there, and the thread saw “badly-disciplined parents are the real problem” clash with “a bit of noise is just part of the deal.” The discussion spread beyond a simple kids-vs-adults fight, touching on the fact that Saizeriya doesn’t even have a kids’ menu, and on the manners of childless customers too.

    3AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:27
    Depends on the area, honestly. The kids where I live are loud and look kind of dumb too.
    6AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:33
    I've never been taken to Saizeriya so I wouldn't know.
    7AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:33
    Depends on the degree — there are idiot kids kicking up dust running around, and discipline matters.
    8AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:39
    There really are "energetic kids" out there (translation: the type who hurl cups across the table).
    9AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:39
    Rebranding a kid who's causing a nuisance as an "energetic kid."
    11AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:41
    Don't just decide for yourself that it's "that kind of restaurant" lol
    12AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:42
    The soy-sauce-licking guy (referencing the viral 2023 prank where a teen licked shared condiment bottles at Sushiro): "Isn't Sushiro that kind of restaurant?"
    13AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:43
    Any decent person would just say "oh, guess we got a little too loud, sorry" and that'd be the end of it.
    14AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:45
    If someone who already thinks of Saizeriya as "that kind of place" still felt the need to say something, it must've been really loud.
    15AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:45
    There's a limit
    I don't know where that line is, so I can't say.
    17AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:49
    Be grateful it ended with just a warning.
    18AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:50
    This guy's got it right
    Family restaurants, McDonald's, Saizeriya — these are places where families with kids make noise.
    19AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:50
    Around this time of day it turns into a gossip circle for middle-aged women
    Every group's got that one person with an obnoxiously loud voice
    And it's not just cackling laughter — they actually clap their hands while doing it
    My theory: they picked up the hand-clapping thing from comedians on TV to look like they're hyping up the room
    Saizeriya's a 5-minute drive from my place so I go almost every day and just people-watch
    Lunch runs until 3pm and comes with a free consommé soup
    20AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:52
    Does Saizeriya even have a kids' menu?
    25AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:00
    Re: #20
    Nope
    If they offered fussy extras like that, the pasta wouldn't be ¥300 tax included
    Unless you're seriously broke, eating at Saizeriya every day isn't going to hurt your wallet
    21AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:54
    Once you're at my level of solo dining, I guess you need a big pair of headphones.
    26AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:01
    Re: #21
    Don't forget to dress full hip-hop while you're at it.
    24AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:57
    Stuff like this can only ever come down to "it's a matter of degree"
    All we can really do is just hear the guy out as a complaint
    Though honestly, judging by the way he's using commas, I kind of want to pile on him for that too
    27AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:02
    A middle-aged guy going to Saizeriya alone is the weird one here.
    56AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:19
    Re: #27
    There's plenty of them
    Does Saizeriya look like some fancy high-end restaurant to you?
    28AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:03
    True, but there's a limit
    Kids who bang on stuff making noise nonstop or run around — just strap 'em to the chair.
    30AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:03
    Couples and old men are way louder.
    33AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:06
    Same goes for the bullet train or regular trains
    It's a place full of people
    So really, whoever finds it too loud should be the one doing something about it
    Noise-canceling headphones these days are insanely good too
    What an idiot
    38AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:08
    I can put up with a noisy kid — it's the parents who can't be bothered to discipline them that I can't stand.
    42AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:10
    Re: #38
    Yeah, that's just human nature at work right there.
    43AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:10
    Re: #38
    Then just don't go.
    39AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:08
    I wish family restaurants with counter seating, like American diners, would catch on here.
    40AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:08
    Isn't Rikorico that kind of group too? (riffing on the headline's format using "Rikorico," an idol-fandom nickname)
    41AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:09
    Well, there really are kids out there who let out absolutely wild screeches for no reason.
    44AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:11
    At a place where the average check is like ¥1,000-2,000
    people who complain about stuff like "the staff's attitude was bad" or "other customers were loud" or "they got my order wrong"
    are just entitled complainers ("monster claimers")
    Ban them, I say.
    45AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:12
    Getting called out in a place that's loud to begin with — that says a lot.
    68AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:26
    Speaking of American diners, that reminds me
    There used to be this nicely worn-out middle-aged waitress at my local Gusto, but I haven't been in a while
    Wonder if she's been swapped for a robot by now
    70AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:28
    Re: #68
    Come on, make sure that "worn-out" lady's got a nice curvy waist too (wordplay on kutabireta "worn-out" vs kubireta "curvy-waisted")

    Background and points of contention

    Saizeriya is known as a budget Italian chain that’s easy for parents with kids to use, but it has never officially billed itself as “kid-friendly,” so how people read that varies by customer. Where the thread split was over how much of a nuisance should be tolerated — some said it’s only natural to call out kids running around or throwing cups, while others felt a bit of noise was within acceptable range. Some also pointed out how uncomfortable it feels to see a disruptive kid relabeled as simply “energetic,” highlighting a temperature gap between parents and non-parents. The fact that Saizeriya doesn’t actually have a kids’ set menu also came up, adding to the mismatch between the chain’s real offerings and its “family-friendly” image.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “[Sad news] “Mom-sama”: “A fellow customer at Saizeriya told me my kid was being noisy, but isn’t Saizeriya that kind of restaurant?”.”

  • “Still Stan-Worthy as a Mom” Ranking of Ex-AKB48 Members: Who Overtook Tomomi Itano for the Top Spot?

    A thread went up on 5ch’s Geinou/Sports Express+ board introducing a ranking of “ex-AKB48 members you can still stan even as a mom.” Billed as an in-house survey of 100 mothers in their 20s to 40s, the list included names like Tomomi Itano, Mariko Shinoda, and Tomomi Kasai — but commenters quickly questioned the tiny sample size and the murky criteria behind the picks. The thread filled up with people listing former members who now have kids, and also lit up with chatter about the personal lives of Yuko Oshima and Yuki Kashiwagi.

    Ex-AKB48 member Tomomi Itano is at the center of controversy on social media over a YouTube filming session at a luxury hotel.

    It started with a family trip video to Nikko, Tochigi Prefecture, that Itano posted to her YouTube channel on September 3, which included a scene of her drying her daughter’s hair in the changing area of the Ritz-Carlton Nikko.

    Given the sensitivity of the location, criticism poured in over the lack of consideration, prompting Itano to explain on social media that “we filmed with special permission.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article

    6AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:51
    Who even is Tomomi Kasai?
    30AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:04
    Re: #6
    The one who fled the "¥10,000 living" show
    34AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:06
    Re: #6
    Mariko Shinoda's rival
    7AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:51
    ■ "Ex-AKB48 you can still stan as a mom" ranking

    No such thing exists.
    Nobody is stan-worthy.
    Please stop treating this as established fact.
    8AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:52
    Mariko Shinoda? No way that's true
    9AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:52
    ■ "5ch posters you can still stan even if they're unemployed, undereducated, bald, short, and fat" ranking
    12AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:53
    >So this time we asked 100 moms in their 20s to 40s about "ex-AKB48 members you can still stan as a mom." (in-house research)

    A sample of 100 lol
    Don't start a thread over something like this!
    15AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:54
    Ex-AKB members with kids who didn't make the ranking:
    Kazumi Urano
    Risa Narita
    Sayaka Akimoto
    Megumi Ohori
    Kana Kobayashi (divorced)
    Natsuki Sato
    Manaka Tada
    Ayaka Kikuchi
    Rumi Yonezawa
    Mika Saeki
    Yuka Nakanishi
    Rie Kitahara
    Haruka Ohara
    Mika Komori
    Sumire Sato
    Shihori Suzuki
    Mariya Suzuki
    Mina Oba
    Haruka Shimada
    Nanami Yamada
    22AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:59
    Re: #15
    Manaka Tada's husband Koki Yamaguchi has been doing great this year, so she seems to be good luck for him (an "age-man" — a woman who brings her partner good fortune)
    17AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:55
    3 out of 100 people saying they can still stan Itano — that's actually impressive lol
    25AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:00
    Re: #17
    That's probably just 3 of Itano's relatives lol
    26AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:00
    Shinoda and Kasai, though…
    35AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:08
    Re: #26 Re: #8
    The moment those two names showed up, this ranking lost all credibility lol
    37AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:10
    Re: #35
    Right, you're like "no way" lol
    27AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:03
    Is Yukirin not getting married?
    32AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:06
    Re: #27
    Yukirin: "Hey, Suga-chan! When the heck are you gonna propose already?
    You'd better not be planning to use me and run off!"
    38AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:10
    Re: #27
    Knowing how much Kashiwagi loves ego-searching herself, she's definitely peeking at this thread too, so don't reply too seriously lol
    29AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:04
    Re: #10
    Yuki Kashiwagi really needs to marry Suga-chan soon and become a "mom talent," or her solo career is going to hit a wall.
    Actually, she's already 35, so if she lets Suga-chan slip away and gets used and dumped, that's no laughing matter.
    41AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:11
    Did Oshima have some kind of scandal?
    56AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:27
    Re: #41
    She suddenly announced her graduation during the Kohaku Uta Gassen broadcast and it blew up into controversy
    63AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:30
    My strongest memory of Yuko Oshima is her snapping straight into the camera on some NHK show or other, like "Hey! Takamina! Don't you dare skip out claiming you're not feeling well, cut the crap!"
    82AnonymousSep 15, 2026 15:03
    Re: #63
    Wow, that's completely made up.
    Are you an antifan or something? lol
    64AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:31
    Why isn't the General Manager (Sokantoku) on the list?
    66AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:34
    Re: #64
    Because she's not a mom
    68AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:35
    Re: #1
    Maeda, Kawaei, and Shinoda have all gotten divorced
    70AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:39
    Re: #68
    Back in her idol days, that #6-ranked Kasai girl was fighting over the guy who founded AKB with Shinoda — who did she end up marrying in the end?
    She hasn't appeared in the media at all lately, so we don't even know if she's since divorced
    71AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:40
    What's with this "stan-worthy even as a mom" thing lol
    For human society to run smoothly, the moment someone you like becomes a mom, you've gotta immediately shift your interest to a fresh non-mom, right?
    73AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:42
    Re: #71
    Well, on this side we're sometimes dads or even grandpas too, so…

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    AKB48 was formed in 2005 and peaked in popularity in the early 2010s; many of the core members from that era are now in their 30s and have gone on to marry and have children. The “in-house research” that sparked this discussion was a small-scale survey of just 100 respondents, without the statistical backing of a major media opinion poll. The debate in the thread centered mainly on the survey’s credibility, with comments like “the sample size is way too small” and “the basis for the ranking is unclear” standing out — while at the same time a separate trend emerged of users listing former members who now have children. Note that the thread also contained posts about certain members’ personal lives and relationships that could not be verified, which have been excluded from this article due to their unconfirmed nature.

    ※This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Express+) thread ““Ex-AKB48 You Can Still Stan Even as a Mom” Ranking: Who Is the “Scandal-Prone” Comeback Mom Who Beat Out Tomomi Itano? [Full Rankings].”

  • Centenarians Top 100,000 for the First Time — 5ch: ‘Now We Get How Amazing Kin-san and Gin-san Were’

    On September 15, Japan’s Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare announced that the number of centenarians nationwide reached 107,677 (up 7,914 from the previous year) as of the 1st of this month, topping 100,000 for the first time since record-keeping began in 1963. Women accounted for nearly 90% of the total at 94,298, and the oldest person is a 114-year-old resident of Kyoto. This marks the 56th consecutive year the record has been broken, and the figures are part of an annual survey released ahead of Respect for the Aged Day on the 21st. On 5channel threads, discussion ranged from worries over pension finances, to comparisons with the era of Kin-san and Gin-san when living past 100 was still rare, to debates over why women tend to live longer.

    Centenarians top 100,000 for the first time… nearly 90% women, oldest is a 114-year-old in Kyoto: Yomiuri Shimbun

    It was revealed on the 15th that the number of centenarians nationwide reached 107,677 (up 7,914 from the previous year) as of the 1st of this month, topping 100,000 for the first time since the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare began compiling the data. This marks the 56th consecutive year the record has been broken. Women made up nearly 90% at 94,298, while men numbered 13,379.

    The ministry compiles this data every year ahead of Respect for the Aged Day (the 21st). Thanks to advances in medical care and rising health awareness, the number of centenarians has kept climbing. In 1963, when record-keeping began, there were only 153; the figure passed 50,000 in 2012 and has continued to grow since.

    Source: yomiuri.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:32
    What are we gonna do about pensions?
    25AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:38
    Re: #4
    Old folks: 'Heh heh heh, we'll leech off the young ones' backs, sucking them dry. Work, work, work!'
    100AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:06
    Re: #4
    The former Komeito health minister who once claimed the pension system was 'secure for 100 years' has passed away too.
    14AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:36
    Kin-san and Gin-san were twins who both hit 100, you know.
    Now do you get how amazing that was?
    24AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:37
    Re: #14
    Back then there were only 3,000 centenarians in the whole country, so they were basically superhuman.
    26AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:38
    Re: #14
    Forget pensions — those two were still hustling and raking in cash even at 100.
    31AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:40
    Re: #14
    Back then cities and prefectures would hand out congratulatory money when you turned 100.
    Now there are so many centenarians that a lot of places don't even bother anymore.
    20AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:37
    People in their 80s and up are the generation that actually knew hunger,
    and also lived through an era when women drinking or smoking was simply unthinkable.

    Those two factors are why Japanese women live so extraordinarily long.
    Starting with today's 70-somethings, average lifespan is going to drop sharply.
    In fact, people in their 70s are already dying off left and right.
    They lived through the wildest era for drinking and smoking, and a lot of those habits are still with them.
    204AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:56
    Re: #20
    That's got nothing to do with it.
    It's because women back then mostly didn't work and had it easy.
    Overseas, women actually go out and work too, so there's barely any gender gap in lifespan there.
    The fact that Japan has the world's biggest male-female lifespan gap is actually the weird part.
    219AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:06
    Re: #204
    Are you an idiot?
    Women back then worked the rice paddies and fields with a baby strapped to their back.
    And men back then were out working too — paddies, fields, community duties, home repairs — moving around way more than men do today.
    39AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:41
    But you still can't break through the 120-year wall, right?
    125AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:15
    Re: #39
    Seems to be pretty much settled, worldwide included, that the human lifespan caps out around 120.
    Though plenty of researchers are working to push past that.
    131AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:18
    Re: #125
    I wonder how old Shigechiyo Izumi actually was. (a man once recorded as the world's oldest person, whose real age was later disputed)
    148AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:27
    Re: #125
    Human lifespan basically comes down to the limit on how many times your cells can divide.
    Get injured or sick, and you burn through more of those divisions, which shortens your life.
    People who live long are generally just the lucky ones born to a life free of injury and illness.
    40AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:41
    They had a frugal childhood with little exposure to toxins,
    then got to grow old just as medicine advanced insanely.
    Probably the generation best positioned to live the longest.
    Question is whether today's smartphone-addicted, poorly-nourished generation can pull off the same.
    52AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:45
    Re: #40
    Back when they were kids it was dysentery and typhoid fever.
    Basically no Japanese person catches those nowadays.
    42AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:41
    Once you're past 100,
    I don't think living long really means being happy.
    Honestly, I don't want to live that long myself.
    51AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:45
    Re: #42
    People who die past 90 tend to just run out of energy —
    even before death they barely seem to know whether they're dying or still alive, so it looks pretty peaceful for them.

    But people who die of cancer in their 60s are still sharp mentally,
    so they die fighting the cancer the whole way — that seems way harder on them, doesn't it?
    43AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:41
    So there's really nobody left who was born in the Meiji era.
    46AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:43
    Re: #43
    That 114-year-old is Japan's last surviving person born in the Meiji era.
    73AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:55
    It's a happy occasion, sure, but it's a burden on social security.
    Bittersweet.
    75AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:56
    Re: #73
    And the ones providing care for them these days are themselves seniors past 60.
    That's an aging society for you.
    74AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:56
    Pension payouts to centenarians — 10 billion yen a month!
    90AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:00
    Re: #74
    You need at least that much to support their sons from the employment ice-age generation. (Japan's 'lost generation' who struggled to find jobs)
    83AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:58
    Women really do live longer.
    Looking at my own family, both my grandmothers lived past 100,
    and there's this common pattern where the uncle dies but the aunt is still going strong.
    Guess men wear themselves down with brutal labor and die early because of it.
    128AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:17
    Re: #83
    Well, stress plays a part too, but
    back then men were drinking and smoking heavily,
    while it was considered shameful for women to drink or smoke at all — I think that's a big factor too.
    88AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:59
    Fine if you're healthy, but
    I don't want to live long while battling some illness.
    I'd rather just die peacefully in my sleep at 49 without even noticing.

    Pensions will be bankrupt by the time it's our turn anyway.
    217AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:05
    Re: #88
    If you're in your early 20s now, by the time the ice-age generation has mostly died off you might get to enjoy a rosy pension retirement.
    But people in their 30s might just barely miss the cutoff…
    163AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:38
    Five years ago there was that theory going around about the vaccine wiping everyone out in one go — population reduction and all that.
    169AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:39
    Re: #163
    Population hasn't dropped at all.
    Turns out the anti-vaxxers were just making stuff up.
    175AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:42
    Re: #163
    And they were going on like crazy about how everyone would be dead within two years.
    196AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:51
    All four of my grandparents lived past 100, so I must have inherited the longevity genes too ('ω')
    198AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:52
    Re: #196
    Guess you'll have to pay a 'nuisance tax' then, lol
    199AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:53
    Re: #196
    Is that really something to be happy about?

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    This latest milestone of topping 100,000 centenarians is the product of an accelerating trend: from just 153 centenarians when record-keeping began in 1963, to 50,000 in 2012, to 100,000 now — part of the annual announcement made ahead of Respect for the Aged Day. In the thread, commenters brought up Kin-san and Gin-san (Kin Narita and Gin Kanie), the twin centenarians who became famous in the 1990s, noting that centenarians were far rarer back then than they are today. As for why women make up 90% of the total, opinions split between social factors — like wartime and postwar food shortages and differing smoking and drinking habits — and physiological factors like female hormones, without settling on a single answer. There were plenty of worries about the burden on pensions and elder care, but the thread also brought up the theory that human lifespan tops out around 120, so the discussion didn’t end on pure optimism.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (News Speed+) thread “Centenarians top 100,000 for the first time… nearly 90% women, oldest is a 114-year-old in Kyoto.”

  • Hello! Project’s Power Map Has Totally Transformed in 10 Years — 5ch: ‘Doesn’t Even Add Up to One JYP’

    A comparison image titled “Idol power map — how much it’s changed in 10 years” that circulated on X (formerly Twitter) became a hot topic on 5ch’s Hello! Project board (morningcoffee). It shows how the standing of each group within Hello! Project has shifted between 10 years ago and now, with attention centering on Morning Musume’s fading presence and Juice=Juice’s rise. The thread saw comments pointing out that the whole Hello! Project lineup “doesn’t even add up to one JYP,” along with users sharing that a TV Asahi music special had introduced Juice=Juice as a “powerhouse vocal group” — sparking a split of opinion over whether the power map itself even holds up.

    7AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:35
    Hello! Project doesn't even add up to one JYP? Damn.
    8AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:35
    Well yeah, Hello! Project's been in steady decline.
    10AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:36
    Juice=Juice actually has more presence now than 10 years ago, but it's the other Hello! Pro groups being garbage that's dragging things down
    14AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:37
    Re: #10
    Nobody outside the fandom even knows Juice=Juice
    11AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:36
    Juice is probably peaking right now too — it's obviously downhill from here
    12AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:37
    Can't help it when the flagship, Morning Musume, is dead
    15AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:39
    Heroines is probably going to keep growing bigger from here
    16AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:42
    Well of course the power map changes after 10 years
    20AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:48
    No matter how much you claim Juice went viral,
    if Morning Musume is weak, this is just how it ends up.
    Hello! Project belongs to Morning Musume, after all
    21AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:50
    Re: #20
    It's not really "ownership," but when you present things in a summary format like Re: #1, the current Hello! Project lineup might just be hard to showcase.
    Though public perception has already shifted to "Hello! Project = Juice=Juice"
    22AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:51
    I wonder if people will say "oh, Juice=Juice was still a thing back then" a few years from now too
    24AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:52
    Re: #22
    In that case, wouldn't that apply to literally every group active in 2026?
    27AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:53
    Re: #1
    If we're talking 2016, °C-ute would've been on top, no?
    32AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:55
    Re: #27
    At the very least, if you're going to include ANGERME or Juice=Juice, °C-ute should've been there instead — that's how it was back then
    28AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:54
    I mean, some random person's subjective power-map chart is worthless to begin with.
    If I made one, I wouldn't even put AKB or Stardust on it.
    At the end of the day it's all just whoever made it and their own biases
    29AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:55
    The biggest of those faint, unlabeled circles floating in the background — that's Hello! Project
    30AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:55
    ME:I, NiziU, HANA —
    the problem of these groups' "moment" being way too short
    31AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:55
    Is it even right to count HANA as idols?
    34AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:56
    EIGHTJAM's power map
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GobBCKOWoAAdscx.jpg
    38AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:58
    AKB's been clawing back thanks to Itomo (a member's nickname)
    40AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:58
    Re: #38
    Their actual turnout hasn't recovered at all — this is pure media-driven spin
    43AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:59
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G_q3hVTX0AAsCyk.jpg
    64AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:09
    TV Asahi's "The 50-Year History of Female Idols Worth Putting in a Music Textbook" — aired June 24, 2026 (19:00–21:54)

    Juice=Juice introduced as "a technically skilled, powerhouse-vocal group"
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HLl803HWEAAJIni.jpg:orig#.jpg
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HLl82oKWAAAJnxN.jpg:orig#.jpg
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HLl84U_WwAAUn2m.jpg:orig#.jpg

    The lineage shown: Berryz Koubou → °C-ute → Juice=Juice (Uemura era + current members)

    Of course ANGERME wasn't included, but neither was S/mileage

    Framing it as "Juice under Uemura as leader" strikes a good balance —
    the original-lineup era isn't really worth featuring, and using only the current members alone wouldn't connect back to the group's 2013 formation
    69AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:10
    Re: #64
    Huh? Where's the flagship group?
    66AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:09
    Nobody even knows °C-ute.
    Berryz still has more name recognition, thanks to Tsugunaga
    68AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:10
    Re: #66
    As of 2016 Berryz Koubou had already gone on hiatus, so it couldn't possibly be on the chart
    71AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:11
    A CDTV staffer:
    "Ever since witnessing Juice=Juice's vocal power live at the New Year's Eve show, I thought — I want more people to know about this charm!"


    [STAR] Fuji TV announcer Uegaki: "I was completely overwhelmed by the sheer intensity of Juice=Juice's performance — it gave me an indescribable flutter in my heart (lol)"
    https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1781769941/

    A major-league producer who came to see Hina Fes: "Every member of Juice=Juice can really sing — it has an overwhelmingly major-label feel"
    https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1774168093

    A Morning magazine editor: "I discovered Juice=Juice by chance a year ago and have been listening to their songs ever since. If you ask me what's so good about them, I'd say 'intensity and resolve'"
    https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1782624309/


    Dancing Yokohama's Director Murata: "I love 'More! Mi Amore'" ("more" = idol slang for looking your best/glammed up) — Summer Koshien
    https://mainichi.jp/articles/20260816/k00/00m/050/142000c

    Vice-Minister of Justice Mitani Hidehiro: "That Juice=Juice song, 'More! Mi Amore.' It's my favorite song, it really gets the crowd going"
    https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1786947530
    76AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:17
    They never even bring up singing ability,
    their fans, lol
    79AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:19
    Re: #76
    They can't compete on that front, so they just don't talk about it at all

    Background and Talking Points

    The “power map” image was made by an individual user on X, not data released by 5ch’s administrators or any official source. Hello! Project runs multiple groups (Morning Musume, Juice=Juice, ANGERME, and others), and the thread buzzed over two things: °C-ute — the group that was the mainstay 10 years ago — being left off the chart, and the fact that Juice=Juice, centered on its current members, was introduced as a “powerhouse vocal group” on a TV Asahi music special (aired June 24, 2026). Meanwhile, questions were raised about AKB48’s actual drawing power based on venue seating, though factors like differences in e-ticket issuing methods make a simple comparison hard to judge accurately. Opinions in the thread split over whether to treat this kind of “power map” as just one person’s subjective creation, or as something close to genuine public sentiment — no consensus was reached. A temperature gap between longtime fans and supporters of the current lineups also seems to underlie the debate.

    ※This article is compiled as an excerpt/summary from the 5ch (Hello! Pro board) thread “The Idol Power Map — How Much It’s Changed in 10 Years.”

  • Should Tokyo Commuters Buy a 1LDK? 5ch Debates: “Buying Time Is Worth It”

    A thread went up on 5ch about a woman — an office worker in Tokyo whom the poster met through a matchmaking app — who took out a mortgage and bought a 1LDK (one-bedroom plus living/dining/kitchen) condo in the city. Her reasons: she wanted to move out of her cramped apartment and finally own her own home. Reactions were largely positive, with comments like “If you can afford it, there’s no reason not to buy” and “Buying time is worth it,” but plenty of others voiced concerns about the future of Tokyo’s property market, rising mortgage rates, and the fact that single-occupant units are generally seen as poor investments. Posters who actually own real estate chipped in with concrete accounts of how their purchase prices compared to current valuations.

    1AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:08
    A woman I met on a matchmaking app, works an office job in Tokyo
    Apparently she just took out a mortgage and bought a 1LDK condo in the city
    Says she wanted to move because her old place was cramped, and she wanted to own her own home
    2AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:10
    Doesn't really matter, does it
    Don't feel one way or the other about it
    4AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:14
    Thought you guys with your strict money literacy standards would relate to this, surprised you don't
    5AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:17
    Re: #1, I have no idea what you're even trying to argue
    6AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:17
    This is the definition of a good move
    If you've got the money to buy, there's no reason not to
    8AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:20
    As long as it's not a bad property
    Used condo prices aren't likely to crash going forward
    9AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:24
    Re: #8
    Tokyo condo prices have already peaked and are falling
    Rates are climbing too, so taking out a loan now seems like a bad deal
    11AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:29
    Buying time is worth it
    If your job's in Tokyo and you're not living in Tokyo, you're just an idiot shaving years off your life with the commute
    12AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:30
    If it's far from the station, you're not actually buying time
    13AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:30
    Heard used units 35㎡ or bigger get some kind of tax break
    16AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:31
    Buying a place like that — does she not intend to get married?
    17AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:32
    Re: #1
    Just tell us what's bugging you about this
    18AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:32
    Does this woman plan to stay single forever?
    20AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:35
    A place bought on a long-term loan while you're still young and able-bodied is going to cause problems all over once you're older
    unless it's barrier-free by design from the start
    21AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:35
    If she ever doesn't need to live there anymore, she can sell it or rent it out
    22AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:37
    Can't imagine an office worker has the means to manage two properties
    She'll end up having the guy pay entirely for their new place together
    24AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:40
    Re: #22
    Nowhere does it say she has two properties
    23AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:38
    What's bugging you about it? That she's in her 40s and took out a 40-year loan?
    26AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:42
    Just buy it
    You can renovate it to suit yourself
    27AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:45
    Tokyo's population is projected to start declining in a few years, which will lead to an oversupply of housing
    You should buy after that happens — buying recently means catching the worst possible peak price
    30AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:49
    If we're talking about the 23 wards, that's a life where a huge chunk of your lifetime earnings gets swallowed by housing costs
    31AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:53
    For reasons I won't get into, I own two condos
    The first one I bought new 20 years ago for 35 million yen is now valued at around 65 million yen
    The other one I bought used 10 years ago for 11 million yen has also risen to around 18 million yen

    It's understandable if you're young, but anyone who's gotten on in years and never bought property, just kept renting their whole life — I honestly look down on those people as complete fools
    32AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:54
    Re: #31
    And for what it's worth, back then too there were idiots running their mouths saying 'anyone buying now is a fool because the population's going to shrink'
    34AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:58
    The population decline up through the Heisei era and the decline coming up are on completely different scales
    The junior baby boomers failed to reproduce themselves, so the drop-off is going to be steep
    35AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:58
    Spending 3 hours round-trip commuting from Chiba or Saitama is the height of foolishness
    so yeah, seems fine to me
    37AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:01
    Sounds like a lot of people living in Yokosuka or Hiratsuka end up moving into Tokyo
    38AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:04
    Can't really say without knowing the location or the building's age
    but if it's decades-old used property, there's a risk it becomes uninhabitable after an earthquake
    44AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:11
    Properties big enough for a family of 3-4 sell easily, but single-occupant units, eh…
    45AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:13
    Re: #44
    Just rent it out
    There's huge demand for single-occupant apartments in Tokyo
    46AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:14
    Even if you buy, you're running a monthly deficit once you factor in management fees and the reserve fund
    47AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:18
    Re: #45
    No, it's polarized
    There's demand if it's a town with access to multiple train lines or close to a business district
    but old properties near stations without that are high-risk
    48AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:21
    Even calling it a 1LDK, the 'D' is basically pointless (the extra 'dining' nook) — a 2DK would be more practical
    50AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:24
    Can't say anything just from 'Tokyo 1LDK'
    it really varies wildly depending on the location and distance from the station
    51AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:24
    Re: #1
    So if you relate to this, does that mean you actually have the funds to buy a condo right now?
    52AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:25
    If there's no bike parking near the station and you're forced to walk everywhere, I wouldn't want to live there
    53AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:26
    Tokyo condos only go up, never down, right?
    Which means, conversely, they're better value than renting

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    Since the Bank of Japan ended its negative interest rate policy in March 2024, it has raised rates several times, putting upward pressure on the variable mortgage rates that had stayed low for so long. That’s the backdrop behind the thread’s worries about rising interest rates. Meanwhile, “buy vs. rent” is a perennial debate topic on 5ch, and this thread was no exception, splitting between posters sharing stories of rising property values and those urging caution, warning that “population decline will lead to an oversupply of housing.” One point that’s easy to miss just from the thread itself is that central Tokyo condo prices are also propped up by demand from single people and dual-income households, meaning they may move according to a different supply-and-demand structure than the nationwide population decline would suggest.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Is it worth buying a nearby 1LDK condo to work in Tokyo?“

  • Tsunku♂: “Morning Musume’s skills need work — raise them to Juice=Juice’s level”

    Tsunku♂, former general producer of Hello! Project, remarked that while Morning Musume enjoys high visibility thanks to its legendary run of hit songs, the current members’ singing and dancing skills leave something to be desired — and that the group should be brought up to the level of fellow Hello! Project act Juice=Juice. The comments drew attention on 5ch’s Hello! Project board. In the thread, some questioned how much say Tsunku actually still has over member selection and personnel decisions these days, while others pointed to inadequate training for the 18th-generation members. Still others pushed back, arguing that skill isn’t necessarily what idols need, leaving opinion divided.

    3AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:14
    They're not even factoring skill into the selection process — don't ask the impossible.
    4AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:14
    Are your own hit-song-writing skills even up to snuff?
    5AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:17
    Wow, an old guy who really knows his Hello! Project.
    61AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:35
    Re: #5
    But he doesn't even come to the live shows, does he?
    6AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:17
    So it's because their singing and dancing skills are low that he can't write good songs? Is that the logic?
    8AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:19
    Wait, you're still a producer?
    11AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:19
    Just leave the rest to Juice and let Momusu disband already.
    12AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:19
    Tsunku, please write us another bop like "More Mia Amore" (a fan's half-joking, half-Italian song request).
    78AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:39
    Re: #12
    Don't ask for the impossible! That's a total "Mo-can't-do" lol (pun blending Momusu with muri, "impossible")
    13AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:20
    Current Morning Musume really is the least skilled group in all of Hello! Project.
    24AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:26
    Re: #13
    Still better than Tsubaki Factory, which is nothing but tone-deaf singers, right?
    14AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:20
    Wait, is Tsunku still the general producer? That's a pretty condescending tone for someone who isn't.
    19AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:22
    How long does this guy plan on still acting like the producer?
    29AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:27
    Re: #19
    Wasn't Tsunku just the sound director? Has he already stepped down from that too?
    31AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:28
    Tsunku hasn't held full authority since the group's formation.
    40AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:30
    Re: #31
    Wait, there was a period when Tsunku actually was Hello! Project's general producer. Didn't he have authority over personnel decisions too?
    33AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:28
    You'd do better to look at successful idols from other agencies — otaku don't actually want skill. A lot of idol otaku are themselves socially disadvantaged, so they go for immature, fragile-looking girls — the submissive type who seems like she'll do whatever you say. (Juice=Juice getting attention is a pretty exceptional case.)
    41AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:30
    Re: #33
    People say this a lot, but I don't really get the sense that only fragile-looking women make it big in entertainment.
    48AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:31
    I do think they could use a couple more members who can really sing. That said, the choreography overall is so intense that it looks tough to sing through. When other groups cover Morning Musume songs, unless you're at the level of Dambara, Nishida, or Kawanishi, people tend to struggle pretty badly.
    60AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:35
    Re: #48
    They've always sung through intense choreography though, haven't they?
    49AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:33
    Juice=Juice has Dambara, Inoue, Matsunaga, Kawashima, and Hayashi — that's just cheating-level talent. Morning Musume would get mercy-ruled (a baseball term for a lopsided loss); there's no comparison.
    57AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:35
    Re: #49
    Tsunku has zero involvement in member selection. If you've got complaints about personnel decisions, take it up with the agency.
    51AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:33
    Just recruit girls who are cute, have great figures, and have skill from the start — and you go write a decent song for once.
    53AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:34
    Re: #51
    As if a girl like that would even come audition for Hello! Project.
    64AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:36
    Re: #57
    Wait, didn't they fully intend to put Dambara into Morning Musume? Why didn't that end up happening?
    68AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:37
    I've got high hopes for Ishikawa, who can handle both dance and vocals. Suzuki's dancing is weak though.
    76AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:38
    Re: #68
    Whether Ishikawa can actually hold her own as a lead vocalist once she's a full member is still unknown — she just did well on the "second team," that's all.
    82AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:40
    Every Momusu fan was surely expecting the 18th generation to finally bring in that long-awaited ace who can actually sing.
    87AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:41
    Re: #82
    Exactly this. Who'd have guessed they'd all turn out to be unproven junior-high schoolers — and there's no time to spare for training them up.
    93AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:44
    If Fukumura, Ikuta, and Ishida had graduated instead of sticking around, the generational handover would have gone smoothly and it wouldn't have come to this.
    95AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:44
    New member additions probably just get sprung on the manager out of nowhere too. At the very least, give Tsunku a proper heads-up in advance.
    98AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:45
    Re: #95
    Tsunku: "At the time, I did hear from management that 'new members are scheduled to join Morning Musume next year (2026),' but I wasn't given any specifics."
    https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1787892902/
    105AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:48
    Back in the ASAYAN days, the golden-era members were basically hand-picked additions chosen directly by Tsunku, right? Like the Chinese members Junjun and Linlin. "Mitsui, come on down. Fukumura, come on down." I can't see it any other way — Tsunku was personally selecting members at least up through that era. Isn't it more that his authority over personnel dropped to zero once he stepped down as general producer?
    108AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:50
    Re: #105
    These days he just provides the songs, right? Maybe he throws in a bit of input on the choreography for those songs, at most.
    109AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:51
    Re: #105
    Apparently it was originally run as a selection committee, though of course his word could still override everyone else's. I'd guess it dropped to zero involvement once he was advised to take a break for his health.
    111AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:52
    Momusu has more skill than the Sakamichi groups or Kawa Lab. But the Sakamichi groups and Kawa Lab outsell Momusu anyway. The problem is the songs and how they're marketed. As for Juice=Juice, it's simply that Aoi Yamazaki's songs are good. Tsunku's more difficult songs just don't tend to go viral.
    113AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:53
    Re: #111
    Isn't it just that Morning Musume's skill is so lacking that the songs look hard by comparison?

    Background and key points of this discussion

    Tsunku♂ held the position of Hello! Project’s general producer around 2004, but stepped back from that authority after his health declined, and is now said to be involved mainly in providing songs. This history is why the thread debated whether he still has any say over personnel matters. Juice=Juice gets held up as a vocally strong group partly because members like Yamato Dambara are highly regarded even within the industry. Meanwhile, Morning Musume’s 18th-generation intake marked an unusual generational shift in that every new member is in their early teens, and the underlying frustration is that the hoped-for “ace who can really sing” never materialized among them. There was also an argument that otaku want a sense of protectiveness more than technical skill — but that’s a generalization about the idol market, and it’s worth separating from any judgment of Tsunku’s remarks themselves.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Tsunku♂: “Morning Musume has a legacy of hit songs that keeps it in the spotlight, but the current lineup’s skills need work. Raise them to Juice=Juice’s level”.”

  • Report: Sweet Baby Inc. Allegedly Involved in PS5’s ‘Wolverine,’ X-Men Name Reportedly Getting Changed

    Reports that narrative consultancy Sweet Baby Inc. is involved in Sony/Insomniac Games’ PS5-exclusive ‘Marvel’s Wolverine’ have sparked discussion on 5ch’s “Hardware/Industry (Geha)” board. According to the reports, the in-game “X-Men” will be rebranded as “Team X,” dropping the word “Men,” and posters noted that the news has fueled backlash on overseas forums. Thread commenters were split on why companies keep signing with Sweet Baby Inc. despite the known backlash — some pointed to funding pressures or reputation management, while others dismissed it as exaggeration from critics.

    13AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:37
    Trashverine: "And that's how I was born!" (a pun mashing "trash" with Wolverine, riffing on a famous manga tough-guy boast line)
    14AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:37
    Sweet Baby Inc. is a Sony exclusive now!
    16AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:37
    Didn't expect this title to get caught up in it, but foreigners were making a huge stink about political correctness — weird.
    Guess Sony's still pulling this stuff, huh.
    23AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:40
    Re: #16
    Even the die-hard Sony fanboys ("Goki," a derogatory nickname for PlayStation loyalists) were pushing back when this broke — there's the Spider-Man 2 precedent too.
    "Insomniac is dropping the word 'Men' from the X-Men name in its upcoming Wolverine game, rebranding the iconic mutants as Team X.
    Sweet Baby Inc. is reported to be involved with this game.

    According to Insomniac Games creative director Marcus Smith, there are no X-Men in the world of the upcoming Marvel's Wolverine.
    Instead, players will encounter a group of mutants called Team X.
    The announcement has drawn immediate online backlash, especially given reports that narrative consulting firm Sweet Baby Inc. is involved in the project."
    https://geeksandgamers.com/insomniacs-wolverine-game-drops-men-from-x-men-name-following-reported-sweet-baby-inc-involvement/
    17AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:38
    Sounds like the kind of thing that could show up in the new Fire Emblem too.
    18AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:39
    Re: #17
    Sounds rough.
    20AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:39
    Word of advice to Sony: stop wasting money, and making female characters ugly doesn't make fans happy.
    24AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:41
    Sweet Baby Inc. and PlayStation, BFFs forever 😊
    27AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:44
    Feel bad for Director Kojima.
    Got cut loose over stuff like this, and now he's catching harassment from PlayStation fans on top of it…
    28AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:45
    Yeah, it's a political-correctness game alright.

    Called it.
    Knew it'd be garbage.
    30AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:46
    "Chony" (a mocking, slur-based nickname critics use for Sony) and political correctness are BFFs forever.
    32AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:47
    Nike's out here suffering because of political correctness, and yet…
    Sony's still going all-in on it…
    33AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:48
    Guaranteed hit (a pachinko term for a "lock" animation that confirms a win, used here to mean "called it")
    Sony Interactive Entertainment's really doing it, huh.
    45AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:52
    I heard banks won't fund a project without political correctness baked in — guess you can't make a AAA title without it these days.
    54AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:59
    Re: #45
    For starters, most overseas companies are perpetually in the red, so they can't keep the business running on their own money alone…
    56AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:00
    Re: #45
    If you're churning out garbage while calling it AAA, then the whole AAA business model is just broken.
    Same goes for cinematic-style games — what worked 20 years ago doesn't necessarily fly today.
    46AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:53
    Is this Sweet Whatever-Inc. like the old-school "sokaiya" (corporate extortionists who used to disrupt shareholder meetings) — do they make trouble for your business if you don't sign with them?
    107AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:18
    Re: #46
    They used to, but after trying the same move on a Chinese manufacturer and getting hit with public pushback that exposed them,
    it looks like now they only deal with companies that fall in line quietly.
    53AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:59
    They're clearly hated to death online, and both the developers and Sweet Baby Inc. itself surely know it — so how do they justify it to themselves?
    Genuinely curious about that thought process.
    60AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:02
    Re: #53
    Once you've got money, the next thing you want is prestige.
    In America, pushing political correctness is an easy shortcut to earning that prestige.
    That's the mechanism behind why big, top-down companies gravitate toward it.
    71AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:05
    Re: #60
    That's not what I mean — with this much criticism and hatred coming at them from every direction, how do they mentally convert that into "everyone actually accepts us"?
    96AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:13
    Re: #60
    If political correctness tanks sales and sinks the company, I'd think that'd leave a black mark on their résumé though.
    62AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:03
    Why do they even need to sponsor this stuff?

    Some kind of cushy post-retirement landing spot?
    Or do you get burned at the stake by political-correctness backlash if you don't sponsor them?
    68AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:05
    Re: #62
    Forget Horizon, something might've already been going on as far back as the Last of Us DLC.
    Honestly it felt way too sudden.
    70AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:05
    Re: #62
    They've half sold their souls at this point.
    Maybe in return, [Sweet Baby Inc.] leans on mid-tier outlets to help pump up the Metascore or something.
    But even the big publishers seem to be getting sick of political correctness now — good sign.
    Games don't need any of that.
    65AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:03
    Spider-Man already went all-in with an unapologetically Black Spider-Man in Miles Morales.
    Thought Spider-Man 2 had shaken that off, but under the hood it's packed with a gay storyline and political correctness everywhere.

    So yeah, this is just business as usual for them.
    87AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:10
    Re: #65
    Miles has been around for over 10 years and is genuinely popular, so that part on its own is normal.
    66AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:04
    Even overseas, the ones making noise about this are nerds with zero social influence, so nothing ever changes lol
    78AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:07
    Re: #66
    Nike and the apparel industry have been course-correcting, and yet Sony's still stuck in it — guess that explains it.

    The faithful and "ponies" (another mocking nickname for PlayStation fans) can never bring themselves to criticize Sony, so the political correctness just keeps rolling on lol
    77AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:07
    Re: #71
    Easy fix
    just chalk every criticism up to smear campaigns from "buta" ("pigs," a mocking nickname for rival-console fans) and problem solved lol
    90AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:10
    Re: #77
    I'm asking this seriously though —
    you really think Sweet Baby Inc. is out there calling people "pigs"?
    A company that reaches into culture well beyond just games?
    97AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:14
    I really don't get why they'd get involved even at the cost of sales.
    106AnonymousSep 15, 2026 14:18
    Re: #97
    It's a mindset Japanese people don't really share, but if you don't show "consideration," political-correctness groups will tear you to shreds.
    So they pay Sweet Baby Inc. a ton of money for "consulting" (lol) just to get their stamp of approval, basically.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Since around 2023, Sweet Baby Inc. has been a divisive presence in the overseas game industry as a firm offering “politically correct”-style narrative consulting. Titles reported to involve the company tend to draw concentrated criticism, and this Wolverine story is an extension of that pattern. That said, it’s worth noting that the cited source, geeksandgamers.com, leans toward industry-critical commentary and is not an official statement from Sony or Insomniac. In the thread, theories about why a company would sign on despite risking a sales hit — ranging from funding needs to investor pressure to score-boosting tactics — were floated, but none of them are confirmed by the parties involved. At the same time, casting Black superheroes has a long history of its own, from Falcon (1969) to Miles Morales (2011), and the article doesn’t make clear that diverse casting itself is a separate issue from the criticism of this particular consulting involvement.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry (Geha)) thread “[Sad News] Sony’s PS5 Wolverine Sponsored by Sweet Baby Inc. wwwwwwwww.”

  • Condo Prices Fall for 8th Straight Month, Investors Panic — 5ch: ‘All You’ll Have Left Is Debt’

    A thread on 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyo G” board reported that central Tokyo condo prices have fallen for eight consecutive months. It opened by citing a startling ¥360 million price tag for a 4th-floor 2LDK unit in central Tokyo, while other posters countered that per-tsubo (≈3.3㎡) prices have dropped as low as ¥5 million, revealing a gap in how real the decline actually feels. The thread saw clashing views — some declaring that the myth of “Tokyo condos as an asset that rises forever” has finally collapsed, others invoking lessons from the bubble-era crash to argue “history repeats itself” — with the differing perspectives of investment buyers versus people buying to actually live there becoming a central point of debate.

    1AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:05
    It's a funeral in the real estate agent and condo investor community
    2AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:05
    Massive crash — 8 months of straight declines

    8AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:07
    Re: #2
    Even in central Tokyo, ¥360 million for a 4th-floor 2LDK (2 bedrooms plus living/dining/kitchen) is still insanely expensive
    5AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:06
    Whatever happened to "buy a Tokyo condo and it'll appreciate forever"?
    59AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:31
    Re: #5
    No such asset exists. During the bubble era too, everyone said land would never lose value, so they all borrowed money, bought in, and got wiped out
    60AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:32
    Re: #5
    Feels like we're watching reruns from right before the bubble
    9AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:07
    Rice too — I wish people would stop treating the prices of everyday essentials like a game
    10AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:09
    Re: #9
    Central Tokyo condos have nothing to do with ordinary people, but even suburban condos got dragged along and hit like ¥100 million
    38AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:19
    Re: #9
    The people buying these aren't buying to live in them, they're buying for investment. Stocks were in bubble territory not long ago too, and now they're just falling. Once investment gets overheated it's bound to crash — they just lost the bet
    48AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:25
    Re: #9
    But in the end, a society where everything can be turned into an investment ends up wiping out the one where it can't
    12AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:10
    Are people in Tokyo really paying ¥400 or ¥700 million to live in a 2LDK? Is anyone actually buying this stuff?
    21AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:13
    Re: #12
    Even if you rent it out, would you find tenants? You'd need something like ¥1.5 million a month in rent just to break even
    22AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:13
    When the bubble burst, everyone who borrowed money to flip real estate went bankrupt. History repeats itself
    24AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:14
    Re: #22
    That lawyer who used to sponsor [MMA fighter] Mikuru Asakura also borrowed tens of billions of yen from banks to buy up real estate — wonder if he'll be okay with rates rising
    23AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:13
    The concentration in Tokyo isn't just about companies — it's also that events only ever get held there
    29AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:16
    Re: #23
    Most events would run at a loss anywhere but Tokyo. Right now a lot of them use profits from Tokyo shows to cover losses from regional shows. That's basically how most music events work
    25AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:14
    If you've got the financial muscle to hold a hundred-million-yen condo as an investment, you can probably just chalk it up as an expensive lesson
    28AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:15
    Re: #25
    The ones in real trouble are the people who borrowed money to flip real estate on the assumption that zero interest rates would last forever
    26AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:15
    Wait, it's already down to ¥5 million per tsubo (≈3.3㎡)? Isn't that too steep a drop?
    30AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:16
    Did the government slap on some unnecessary regulation again and pop the bubble?
    35AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:18
    Re: #30
    If they don't regulate it, it'll just pop even more spectacularly later
    34AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:18
    Real estate is still way too expensive. It should crash to like a tenth of where it is now
    39AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:20
    Re: #34
    Not happening — demand from actual homebuyers is too strong in the big metro areas
    47AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:25
    If it collapses, real estate investment is scarier than revolving credit card debt. Once prices crash, all that's left is debt, and your life is basically over
    51AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:27
    Re: #47
    Back in the day, [enka singer] Masao Sen's debt scandal was prime tabloid TV material, but once he settled his debts nobody talked about it anymore — even though he was supposed to be the cautionary tale
    50AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:26
    That's just what speculation is. It's one thing if a wealthy person with multiple income streams uses real estate for hefty tax deductions while collecting rent and waiting for the right time to sell, but short-term flipping is a game of chicken from the start. Honestly, if all you can afford is a suburban property that got a bit pricier, you'd be safer in real estate REITs than in an actual property
    53AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:28
    Re: #50
    People who poured their money into "Minna de Ooyasan" (lit. "Everyone's a Landlord," a real-estate crowdfunding scheme) probably don't even know REITs exist
    82AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:50
    Re: #50
    REITs are trash anyway
    54AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:29
    You're laughing, but there's no reason stocks would hold up if real estate doesn't — this is bad. Lock in your NISA (tax-free investment account) gains now
    55AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:29
    What are people who bought with 50-year mortgages supposed to do?
    67AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:38
    Re: #55
    As long as it's not a joint pair loan, couldn't they pay it off if they work themselves to the bone? Though honestly the best move would be to sell immediately and clear the slate
    75AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:45
    I'm not buying a central Tokyo condo anyway so I don't really care. These investors are paying taxes too, right? So they're getting fleeced needlessly, paying taxes, and indirectly giving back to us poor folks. Shouldn't we poor people actually welcome this?
    76AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:46
    Re: #75
    People are becoming unable to live in Tokyo
    78AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:48
    Re: #76
    Poor people don't need to live there anyway. Tokyo is a city for rich people
    79AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:48
    Re: #78
    Osaka's going to overtake it eventually
    85AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:50
    Re: #79
    What's the logic there? lol
    86AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:52
    Re: #85
    It's obvious that industry and culture don't develop in places people don't gather
    89AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:54
    Re: #86
    Because Tokyo has the strongest transportation network — every shinkansen and flight has to come through Tokyo

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The “eight straight months of decline” figure cited in the thread comes from a posted image, with no reference to official indices such as those from the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism or the Real Estate Economic Institute, so the actual size of the drop and which areas it covers can’t be pinned down from the thread alone. The rise in central Tokyo condo prices in recent years has generally been attributed to a combination of mortgage demand fueled by ultra-low interest rates, an inflow of capital from overseas investors, and soaring construction costs — and most reactions in the thread take this backdrop for granted. At the same time, falling prices wouldn’t simply mean ordinary people can suddenly afford them; as some comments note, there’s the separate issue of how investment-purpose owners handle their debt, and whether renting the properties out is even profitable. It’s also worth noting that the disagreement over Tokyo’s over-concentration remained an impressionistic argument rather than one backed by statistical evidence.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (“Nandemo Jikkyo G”) thread “[Bad News] Condo Prices in Massive Crash, Investors Losing Their Minds wwwwwwwwwwwww“.

  • Juice=Juice’s TikTok Clips Keep Blowing Past 200K Views, But Collab Videos Show a Growth Gap — Hello! Project Fans Take Notice

    A thread on 5ch’s Hello! Project board has taken off over the surge in views and likes on Juice=Juice’s TikTok videos. Some posters claim that nearly all of the group’s uploads are topping 200,000 views, and it was also pointed out that in collaboration videos with other groups, only the clips featuring Juice=Juice members seem to take off. Opinions in the thread split over whether this reflects algorithmic bias or a genuine popularity gap, and debate also broke out over the individual standing of members like Yua Kudo and Risa Irie.

    1AnonymousSep 15, 2026 10:54
    The video with Taiyo to Ciscomoon's Takako Inaba & Juice=Juice, and the one with Rio Sakurai, Yukiho Shimoitani, Reina Uemura & Sairi Endo, are the ones that dipped
    2AnonymousSep 15, 2026 10:54
    Days in the group as of 2026/09/15 (per Wikipedia)

    4,127 days — Akari Uemura
    3,368 days — Ruru Danbara (since 2017/06/26)
    3,194 days — Tomoko Kanazawa
    2,909 days — Sayuki Takagi
    2,845 days — Karin Miyamoto
    2,650 days — Yua Kudo & Ria Matsunaga (since 2019/06/14)
    2,358 days — Reon Inoue (since 2020/04/01)
    2,303 days — Yuka Miyazaki
    1,896 days — Ichika Arisawa, Risa Irie & Hisaki Ebata (since 2021/07/07)
    1,539 days — Sakura Ishiyama & Sairi Endo (since 2022/06/29)
    1,447 days — Manaka Inaba
    1,211 days — Mifuu Kawashima (since 2023/05/23)
    *,623 days — Nanami Yanagawa
    *,449 days — Nia Hayashi (since 2025/06/23)
    *,130 days — Aina Otsuka
    3AnonymousSep 15, 2026 10:57
    No different from ANGERME's own account likes
    54AnonymousSep 15, 2026 11:39
    Re: #3
    That proves the account-size excuse doesn't hold up
    4AnonymousSep 15, 2026 10:59
    Sakurai and Shimoitani are fine, but have the new "More Mi" fans (fans drawn in by a member's "More Mi" nickname) not made it over to Taiyo to Ciscomoon yet?
    5AnonymousSep 15, 2026 11:01
    Funny enough, even other groups' TikToks only get a boost when Juice is involved
    6AnonymousSep 15, 2026 11:01
    Kudo and Irie are still as unpopular as ever
    14AnonymousSep 15, 2026 11:10
    Re: #6
    Anyone who tries to judge everything by TikTok alone smells just like those Spotify-numbers-obsessed guys lol
    You've gotta look at things from multiple angles
    7AnonymousSep 15, 2026 11:02
    Almost every one of Juice=Juice's TikTok posts is topping 200K views now — that's not "average Hello! Project group" territory anymore
    9AnonymousSep 15, 2026 11:05
    Re: #7
    Even looking at the idol industry as a whole, Juice=Juice would probably scrape into the top ten
    8AnonymousSep 15, 2026 11:04
    It's not just Juice — feels like other groups have been getting more likes lately too, especially Momusu and BEYOOOOONDS
    10AnonymousSep 15, 2026 11:06
    If even Nina, the queen of viral hits, struggles against ANGERME/Tsubaki members, how brutal is that debuff exactly
    52AnonymousSep 15, 2026 11:38
    Re: #10
    For Niina, ANGERME/Tsubaki members are basically her "Sanico" (fan slang for a benchmark rival that's tough to beat)
    11AnonymousSep 15, 2026 11:07
    The algorithm's just spreading engagement around unevenly
    12AnonymousSep 15, 2026 11:08
    Is Matsunaga the "handsome one" of Juice=Juice?
    Her dancing and stage presence really are cool, gotta admit
    15AnonymousSep 15, 2026 11:10
    Re: #1
    Why are you even tracking this stuff?
    16AnonymousSep 15, 2026 11:12
    Turns out Endo's lack of popularity is showing
    17AnonymousSep 15, 2026 11:15
    It's been reconfirmed once again — even Juice=Juice's least popular member outranks other groups' most popular ones
    30AnonymousSep 15, 2026 11:23
    Mol just posted recently so that one's understandable
    Also, Shimoitani really does seem to be getting avoided across the board on every metric
    50AnonymousSep 15, 2026 11:26
    Also-rans from other groups should get a viral solo hit with their own group's song first before acting smug
    51AnonymousSep 15, 2026 11:32
    Kawashima, with her old-school Showa-style looks, seems to be getting pretty well received, no?
    55AnonymousSep 15, 2026 11:40
    ANGERME/Tsubaki are basically Sanico lmaooo
    59AnonymousSep 15, 2026 11:46
    I mean, if you're posting almost every day, of course some clips won't take off
    How much are the other groups even uploading?
    62AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:26
    Re: #9
    If anything, by average likes they'd land in the top 5

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    TikTok view and like counts are shaped by multiple factors — posting frequency, the platform’s algorithm, follower makeup, and more — so they should be read with caution as a simple measure of popularity. Within the thread itself, some argued it was premature to judge based on TikTok alone, suggesting the numbers should be weighed alongside other metrics like Spotify. It’s also worth noting that the pattern of collaboration videos only performing well when Juice=Juice members are involved could be explained by overlapping follower bases or differences in posting timing, and doesn’t necessarily indicate that the other groups are simply less popular.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Juice=Juice’s TikTok: even Yua Kudo and Risa Irie are now casually racking up viral hits, so within the Hello! Project ‘village,’ the only videos that dip are the ones parasitized by other also-ran groups….”

  • Hololive’s Pekora Teases Cryptic Stream — 5ch: “It’s the Rubber-Band Watermelon Thing”

    Hololive talent Usada Pekora posted a photo of a watermelon captioned “end of summer,” teasing a mysterious upcoming stream — and it became a hot topic on 5ch’s “Nanidemo Jikkyou G” board. Since she once streamed herself wrapping a watermelon in rubber bands and waiting for it to burst, plenty of 5ch users got excited with comments like “it’s that rubber-band thing again” and “the watermelon’s nice and chilled.” Meanwhile, true to the board’s freewheeling nature, the thread veered wildly off-topic into Pekora’s stamina, how deep the “NanJ” regulars’ Hololive knowledge runs, and comparisons to rival streamer “Hori Daisuke.”

    1AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:48
    A watermelon just sitting there with "end of summer"…
    Is something going on?
    4AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:49
    It's the rubber-band thing again, isn't it
    5AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:49
    Eh, probably nothing major anyway
    6AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:49
    It's a HIKAKIN tribute, right?
    7AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:49
    Take notes from Hori Daisuke
    8AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:50
    Pekora's weirdly popular with fellow streamers and people in the game industry, huh 😀
    9AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:51
    Pekora streams at an insane pace but never wrecks her throat like Marine does
    10AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:51
    Re: #9
    Guess she's just built different, health-wise
    11AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:52
    end of summer
    12AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:52
    It's the rubber-band watermelon thing
    13AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:52
    Re: #1
    More interested in Miku, who lost to the hypnosis app, than in Pekora
    18AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:53
    Re: #13
    lol
    yeah seriously, what even is this
    14AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:52
    Can't beat Hori Daisuke
    15AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:53
    People who like Pekora seem like the type to play Monster Strike
    16AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:53
    So rubber-band watermelon is fine, but the "don't play with your food" guy's okay with that?
    22AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:55
    Re: #16
    She eats it properly afterward, so it's just barely okay
    17AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:53
    Thanks for everything, Pekoraaa
    19AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:54
    Seems like she looks up to HIKAKIN
    20AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:54
    Just stream Pekora losing to the hypnosis app already 😄
    21AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:55
    It's the rubber-band thing
    23AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:55
    Jealous that she gets paid just for wrapping a watermelon in rubber bands and waiting for it to pop
    25AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:57
    Re: #23
    Honestly, hardcore fans would pay good money just to hear her say her catchphrase "konpeko~"
    26AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:57
    Chicken-sharked (apparent typo/gibberish, meaning unclear)
    27AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:57
    Oh, the rubber-band thing
    28AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:57
    That's total Subaru-bait (content that would easily lure in fellow Hololive talent Subaru)
    29AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:58
    You guys really know your Hololive stuff, huh 🤔
    31AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:59
    Re: #29
    It's a required skill for NanJ regulars
    32AnonymousSep 15, 2026 12:59
    The watermelon's nice and chilled
    33AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:00
    I doubt she'd actually do something that obvious that everyone's already guessed…
    34AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:00
    Nina did a watermelon bit too, and it was pretty fun to watch
    35AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:00
    The watermelon went and lost its chill
    36AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:00
    Not just Hololive, obviously I watch Nijisanji and VSPO too 🥰
    39AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:02
    Re: #36
    Tell me who your favorite VTuber is
    43AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:04
    Probably just flirting with Vivi, as usual
    45AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:04
    Re: #43
    What about Captain??????
    44AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:04
    Don't play with your food
    47AnonymousSep 15, 2026 13:06
    Re: #45
    Marine's throat's been rough, so I couldn't help but leave her out this time, peko

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    This teaser is nothing more than a single photo and caption posted by Pekora herself — the actual content of the stream has not been revealed. Because she has previously streamed a segment where she wraps a watermelon in rubber bands and waits for it to burst, thread speculation centered on a repeat of that bit. “Hori Daisuke,” who comes up repeatedly in the thread, is a streamer frequently referenced in 5ch’s streaming/VTuber threads, known for his extreme stunts, and here he’s brought up again as a comparison point for Pekora. It’s worth noting, though, that this is all speculation on 5ch’s part based on past patterns — whether the stream will actually turn out to be a watermelon segment had not been confirmed as of the thread’s posting.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nanidemo Jikkyou G) thread “Pekora teases some kind of meaningful stream 🐰.”