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The story
Sakura Ishiyama of Juice=Juice is a member who often gets harsh reviews for her singing, but when she joined in on a FRUITS ZIPPER song, she showed off vocal power so strong that fans said she was a genuinely “good singer” — sparking discussion on 5ch’s Hello! Project board. Many in the thread said things like “I never thought Ishiyama was bad” and “that vocal power feels amazing,” but harsher voices remained too, criticizing her pitch and calling her belting “unpleasant,” so opinion was split. Some also theorized, based on differences in how easy the songs are to sing at karaoke, that Juice=Juice’s own material is simply more vocally demanding.
What people said
Haters too cheap to even watch it
That's why her vocal power is insane too
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If the agency's paying the rent, living alone makes total sense
Is it different within Hello! Project?
https://i.imgur.com/H2b2HYL.mp4
https://i.imgur.com/LENLe2h.mp4
Isn't that the appeal, though? Her weapon is that bold, full-throttle vocal power, not fine technique
A live show that sounds like karaoke is boring
Background and key points of this discussion
Juice=Juice and FRUITS ZIPPER are both part of Hello! Project, but their songs have very different styles. One theory raised in the thread was that “Juice=Juice’s songs are just hard to sing, while Kawaii Lab’s (FRUITS ZIPPER’s) songs are easy to sing” — suggesting that Ishiyama’s evaluation shifts depending on the setting because of a real gap in vocal difficulty between the two groups’ material. It’s worth noting that the “bad singer” label itself isn’t an official assessment, just a tag that stuck on 5ch. The fact that praise for her vocal power and criticism of her shaky pitch coexist reflects a singing style built more around raw power and intensity than fine technique — making it a topic where opinions split depending on what listeners use as their standard for “good singing.”
*This article is compiled as an excerpt/summary from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Juice=Juice’s “bad singer” Sakura Ishiyama joins FRUITS ZIPPER for a song — turns out she can actually sing.”
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