Hello! Project Trainees: Joining at 16 Makes You ‘Old’ — 5ch Reacts: ‘Everyone Else Was Still in Elementary or Middle School’

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Hello! Project’s Sakura Ishiyama and Ichika Arisawa both joined the Hello! Pro Kenshuusei (trainee) program at age 16 — an unusually old age for a trainee, with most of their fellow trainees still in elementary or middle school at the time. The topic set off a 5ch thread covering trainee tenure rankings and the trainee world’s unique custom where seniority is based on join date, not age. Posters also discussed the recent trend of mid-career trainees joining as late as 22, broadening into a wider conversation about how Hello! Project’s talent-development approach has shifted.

What people said

1AnonymousSep 8, 2026 15:27
From Nikkei Entertainment
2AnonymousSep 8, 2026 15:27
Days enrolled as of 2026/09/08 (per Wikipedia)

4,127 days — Akari Uemura
3,361 days — Ruru Danbara (since 2017/06/26)
3,194 days — Tomoko Kanazawa
2,909 days — Sayuki Takagi
2,845 days — Karin Miyamoto
2,643 days — Yua Kudo / Ria Matsunaga (since 2019/06/14)
2,351 days — Reon Inoue (since 2020/04/01)
2,303 days — Yuka Miyazaki
1,889 days — Ichika Arisawa / Risa Irie / Kisaki Ebata (since 2021/07/07)
1,532 days — Sakura Ishiyama / Sakari Endo (since 2022/06/29)
1,447 days — Manaka Inaba
1,207 days — Mifu Kawashima (since 2023/05/23)
623 days — Nanami Yanagawa
442 days — Nia Hayashi (since 2025/06/23)
130 days — Aina Otsuka
3AnonymousSep 8, 2026 15:29
Madopi (nickname) used polite, formal "-san" language with Danson, who's five school years younger than her — that's just how trainees work: like a sumo stable, whoever joined first is senior, age be damned
4AnonymousSep 8, 2026 15:32
'Old'… come on.
5AnonymousSep 8, 2026 15:34
Grade levels when Ichisaku (Ichika & Sakura) joined:
Hiromoto — 2nd year high school
Ishiguri, Yonemura, Kubota — 1st year high school
Nakayama, Hashida — 3rd year middle school
Nishizaki, Hirayama, Kitahara, Ebata — 2nd year middle school
Yokaze, Murakoshi, Uemura — 1st year middle school
6AnonymousSep 8, 2026 15:35
Only in Hello! Project would being 16 get you treated as 'old.'
7AnonymousSep 8, 2026 15:36
The age gap with everyone else is a classic story for any Hello! Pro member who joined during high school.
8AnonymousSep 8, 2026 15:37
Ichisaku joined in their 2nd year of high school, so they were quite old for trainees.
Hiromoto was the only one their age.
The only one older was Madopi, whose debut was already confirmed.
9AnonymousSep 8, 2026 15:42
These days Hello! Project even lets in mid-career hires at 22.
64AnonymousSep 8, 2026 16:43
Re: #9
Whether they can keep doing that going forward will probably decide Hello! Project's future.
10AnonymousSep 8, 2026 15:44
By the time Arisawa's promotion was decided, Kasahara — who's the same age — already had her graduation set.
11AnonymousSep 8, 2026 15:47
Hana Kojima is the same age as Arisawa and Ishiyama,
so I was surprised this age group might still be growing.
25AnonymousSep 8, 2026 15:49
Re: #11
Kasahara and Ota left, and Kitagawa landed a big transfer over to TV Tokyo, so three left and one new member joined.
12AnonymousSep 8, 2026 15:48
By the time Ishiyama got promoted, she'd already graduated high school — if she hadn't been promoted at that point, I think she'd have ended up like Kono, Makinoe, Asano, Miyakoshi, and the others.
38AnonymousSep 8, 2026 15:51
Cover-song hell plus the addition of 'old' trainees Arisawa and Ishiyama —
I remember thinking Juice=Juice was done for.
49AnonymousSep 8, 2026 15:58
Re: #38
Yeah, people were calling it the 'trash can.'
48AnonymousSep 8, 2026 15:55
I feel like Kanazawa and Yokoyama said something similar too — becoming trainees in high school while everyone around them was elementary/middle schoolers.
51AnonymousSep 8, 2026 16:01
Re: #25
Yagi is from this generation too, so that's 4 who've left.
52AnonymousSep 8, 2026 16:08
Trainees celebrating Mifu Kawashima's 14th birthday
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGorsnNUUAI6p1t.jpg:orig
65AnonymousSep 8, 2026 16:50
Re: #52
Wow, Pinopa (nickname) got incredibly cute.
53AnonymousSep 8, 2026 16:14
Didn't it bother her being by far the youngest among peers like Matsumoto and Yokaze?
56AnonymousSep 8, 2026 16:19
ANGERME's three-color dango (birth-year groupings)
'03 '03 '07

Juice=Juice's Sunflower
'03 '05 '06

Tsubaki Factory's Little Camellia
'03 '03 '04 '07
59AnonymousSep 8, 2026 16:20
Probably just because the cake is small.
61AnonymousSep 8, 2026 16:22
She's a kid and isn't wearing makeup, that's why.
62AnonymousSep 8, 2026 16:28
Hiromoto, who's the same age as those two but became a trainee a year earlier, probably felt the same way.
63AnonymousSep 8, 2026 16:32
Glad she cried and didn't want to, but kept going with JJ (Juice=Juice) anyway.
66AnonymousSep 8, 2026 16:52
They hit it off and got close fast,
but honestly those two were probably the only ones their age to begin with.
69AnonymousSep 8, 2026 16:53
Re: #66
Hiromoto was around at the same time too, so even as a trio they got along well.
67AnonymousSep 8, 2026 16:52
Is that why things got weird?
68AnonymousSep 8, 2026 16:53
Kojima got the chance to sing 'Moré! Mi' at the Momoiro Uta Gassen,
and she already had ties to Miyamoto — that's exactly why she ended up in Hello! Project.
I doubt there are many people who'd get such a convenient second-career shot at joining Hello! Project.

Background and key points of this discussion

A defining feature of Hello! Project’s trainee (kenshuusei) system is that seniority is determined by join date rather than age — a setup sometimes compared to a sumo stable. As a result, most members join while still in middle school, making a join age of 16 the exception commenters pointed it out to be. Some in the thread credited Ishiyama and Arisawa’s arrival with supporting Juice=Juice’s generational turnover, while other exchanges hint there was skepticism about them early on. In recent years, mid-career joins at 22 have also appeared, and the fact that entry into training is no longer strictly tied to age stands out as a shift from the traditional image of a trainee. Note that some posts in the thread mocking certain members’ looks or necessity have been left out of this article.

※This article excerpts and summarizes the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Sakura Ishiyama: “Ichika Arisawa and I were in the same trainee class — we were both already 16, which is quite old, when we joined as Hello! Pro trainees. Everyone around us was in elementary or middle school…”“.

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