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The story
Reactions spread across 5ch after Hello! Project staff member “Kyururun” said that trainee Sakamoto Aoka wants to join OCHA NORMA. Some argued that when trainees are asked which group they’d like to join, they’re just giving a diplomatic non-answer — but others pointed out past cases where trainees who publicly stated their preference really were placed in that very group, splitting opinion on how much weight to give the comment. The thread also touched on the status of other trainees like Nemoto Tsubaki, and the recurring pattern of the agency making personnel decisions that defy fan predictions.
What people said
Sakamoto → OCHA
Nemoto → Tsubaki Factory
Any other trainees making a big push for a group?
🍅＜Busted!
Doesn't it occur to you that she brought it up herself?
That's the Akari Takeuchi Award though
Oh… (say no more)
Yonemura, Saito, and Nishizaki never won any award either, and some members got promoted without even taking the test — it's just for fun.
https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1773542057/
Hashisako, Ishiyama, Goto, Hayashi
Just take Nemoto off their hands already.
feels like they might disband with the current lineup as is.
If OCHA breaks up, Mio-chan, come join ANGERME.
Sakamoto: "OCHA NORMA, of course."
This agency never lets anyone into the group they actually want.
Hayashi Nial
Case closed.
That's why everyone's playing "manjuu kowai" (saying the opposite of what you actually want, hoping reverse psychology works).
Let's stop playing armchair talent scout.
Nishiguchi: "It'd be annoying if the creepy otaku guessed right, so let's decide promotions by doing the opposite of what they expect!"
She's technically become Beyooooonds-eligible as of this year,
but she's all about Tsubaki Factory now, so it's fine.
keep repeating that and maybe this crappy agency will reverse-psychology her right in.
Just keep playing "manjuu kowai."
There's no way Nishiguchi has authority over personnel decisions — that's the Chairman's call.
Isn't there staff who monitor the forums and report back at meetings?
Whenever a typo gets pointed out on the forums, it gets fixed right away, doesn't it?
Tashiro's Kanagawa slot is open, so Sakamoto becomes a strong candidate for OCHA.
But the moment you start pushing the "hometown theory," they'll do the opposite and throw in Yoshida from Tokyo or Hattori from Aichi instead.
Yet if nobody pushes the hometown theory, the "all different hometowns" concept just stays intact on its own.
(Just like how they kept birthdays from overlapping for over ten years straight — the first time two members shared a birthday was Tanaka and Sakurai.)
Personnel decisions are a tug-of-war between the forum posters and this garbage agency.
Goto just came from the ANGERME audition — I don't remember her ever pushing for ANGERME specifically.
Her role model wasn't an ANGERME member either.
Goto Hana publicly said in a magazine interview during her trainee days that she wanted to join ANGERME.
It's just Morning Musume fans and Goto antis claiming she wanted Morning Musume instead.
Hello! Project trainee Goto Hana: "I want to join ANGERME"
https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1672119914/
Background and Key Points
OCHA NORMA is a group that has grown by welcoming new members from Hello! Project’s trainee pool, and Sakamoto Aoka is currently active as a trainee. When trainees are asked which group they’d like to join, there’s a tendency to give an inoffensive answer that won’t ruffle feathers — as replies 2 and 9 point out, such statements are hard to take entirely at face value. On the other hand, as reply 18 notes with examples like Hashisako, Ishiyama, Goto, and Hayashi, there are multiple cases of members who publicly stated their desired group before actually joining it, so it can’t simply be dismissed as diplomatic small talk either. The thread also raised the recurring pattern of the agency making personnel decisions that go against fan predictions, reinforcing the view that Sakamoto’s comment doesn’t necessarily guarantee she’ll end up in OCHA NORMA. Note that any comments in the thread naming real staff members in connection with personnel authority are unverified fan speculation.
*This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Kyururun: “(Sakamoto Aoka-chan) said she wants to join OCHA NORMA, so…”“.
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