Araki Hirohiko Told by His Editor “I’m Sick of Hamon” — Invented Stands in Two Weeks Flat; 5ch: “Toriyama Went Through the Same Thing”

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The story

An anecdote Araki Hirohiko shared in a past interview has become a hot topic on 5ch. About one to two weeks before Part 2 of JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure wrapped up, his editor told him, “I’m sick of Hamon, let’s do something different for Part 3,” and in that short window he came up with what would become his series’ signature concept: “Stands.” The thread also brought up how Akira Toriyama was forced by his editor to redesign Cell in Dragon Ball multiple times, with posters agreeing that the more popular a manga gets, the heavier the editorial meddling — though they couldn’t agree on which JoJo part is actually the best.

About a week or two before Part 2 of JoJo ended, my editor at the time suddenly said, “I’m getting kind of tired of Hamon, let’s go with something different for Part 3,” and I panicked — like, “uh, now what do I do?”

Even so, they weren’t about to give me any time off, so I somehow scraped together “Stands” in about two weeks and dove straight into Part 3.

With “Hamon,” I’d been drawing ripple patterns to represent the characters’ powers, so I wanted to head in a completely different direction — and that’s how I landed on this new rule of characters fighting with humanoid-shaped energy.

Source: shueisha-mangaexpo.jp / Read the original article here

What people said

2AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:52
So "humanoid-shaped energy" was supposed to be the rule?
Guess the author broke his own rule later on, then.
3AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:55
Buronson [writer of Fist of the North Star] said the same thing happened to him — he figured he could finally rest after killing off Raoh, and instead got asked for the next manuscript. He was floored.
4AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:57
Ebata: "I love JoJo, I'm a huge fan."
Sanma: "Oh yeah? What's the newest protagonist's name again?"
Ebata: "Uh… haven't actually read that one yet~"
5AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:59
Re: #4
Normally that'd be a red flag, but with JoJo it's kind of understandable, right?
Even hardcore fans often aren't keeping up with the latest part in real time.
6AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:01
Everyone's got their own favorite JoJo protagonist.
Also, let's be real, the recent parts just aren't as good anymore.
I read up through Part 5 and quit after that.
7AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:04
Funny how people act like JoJo experts without even reading Part 7 — the actual masterpiece.
Better than Part 4, too.
17AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:30
Re: #7
The art's really gone downhill lately.
Everyone's drawn with these skinny "bean sprout" limbs (slang for scrawny physiques) and dead-fish eyes now.
47AnonymousOct 4, 2026 20:01
Re: #7
Part 7 is peak JoJo (aside from how Sandman got handled).
Everything from the fight against the President through DIO's final moments, plus the epilogue — all phenomenal.
8AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:18
I'm "original-members wave" when it comes to JoJo.
32AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:49
Re: #8
"Original-members wave"? What kind of Hamon technique is that supposed to be?
9AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:20
Toriyama went through the exact same thing with the Android Saga in Dragon Ball — his editor asked, "So the villains are an old man and a fat guy?" so he drew up Cell, got told Cell looked like a bug, switched to his favorite design (the second form), got told that looked lame too, and finally settled on the third form.
11AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:24
Re: #9
Well, the previous villain, Frieza, had set an impossibly high bar~
12AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:25
Honestly, Parts 1 and 2 aren't all that great.
Shonen Jump editors really are sharp, though.
A lot of them are like lyricists who can't write music themselves but know exactly how to shape a song.
13AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:27
Parts 1 and 2 are good, though.
If anything, Part 3 is the watered-down version — it's pretty boring watching it back now.
14AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:27
Fist of the North Star completely fell apart after Raoh was defeated.
Then again, momentum matters so much in these things that maybe you can't ever afford to let the creator rest.
15AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:27
Part 2 is actually still fun watching it again now.
But yeah, the idea of turning energy into a character was genuinely brilliant.
16AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:28
Black Angels fell apart after the Tokyo Destruction arc.
Ginga went downhill hard after Akakabuto.
34AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:49
Re: #16
Right, and then they head to the "Nagoya" stand-in and suddenly everyone's living a perfectly normal civilized life — total tonal whiplash.
18AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:31
Captain Tsubasa fell apart after the elementary school arc too.
20AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:35
Demon Slayer wasn't originally supposed to star Tanjiro either.
The plan was for a quiet, taciturn type like Giyu to be the lead, but the editor made the final call to switch it to Tanjiro.
21AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:35
Huh, there are people out there who rank Part 5 as the best.
First time I've seen that take.
45AnonymousOct 4, 2026 20:00
Re: #21
I like Part 5 too.
The only parts I actually bought the tankobon for and read in real time were Part 5 and Steel Ball Run.
22AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:36
Didn't Araki say back then that JoJo was mapped out like a long road trip, with the outline planned pretty far ahead in terms of how many parts it'd run?
24AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:39
Part 5 is popular, actually.
Plenty of people like it more than Part 3.
25AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:39
Must've been rough grinding through serialization nonstop only to get told to change direction two weeks before deadline.
Apparently weekly Shonen Jump serialization back then basically meant nonstop all-nighters.
27AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:40
Parts 3, 4, and 5 are probably the popular trio.
Same deal as Dragon Quest.
28AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:41
Fuma no Kojiro fell apart after the Holy Sword War arc too.
29AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:45
Part 5's probably popular with women because it's wall-to-wall handsome guys.
30AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:46
I knew a girl who went on a trip to Italy specifically to visit Part 5 filming/story locations.
31AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:49
Over on Kenmo [a notoriously contrarian 5ch board] people tend to say it's good only up through Part 4.
I like Part 5 too, though.
33AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:49
If we're talking underrated parts, 6 and 8 are actually fun watching now.
I bet Part 9 gets re-evaluated once it's finished too.
Honestly this series is just better binged in tankobon form than followed week to week.
37AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:52
Part 4 is really well put together, but you won't get why unless you binge it all at once.
Same deal as the Chimera Ant arc in Hunter x Hunter.
38AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:52
If they'd stuck with Hamon, they'd have eventually run out of viable enemies.
Makes you wonder what the actual plan was if they'd kept going with it.
39AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:53
What's with the setting where just holding a volcanic rock makes wealth come to you? That's just not interesting.
41AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:57
Everyone praises Steel Ball Run to death, but
it's really not THAT good.
46AnonymousOct 4, 2026 20:01
Re: #41
That one's huge with American fans, for what it's worth.
44AnonymousOct 4, 2026 20:00
Calling Part 6 "recent" is wild — that was like 30 years ago.
48AnonymousOct 4, 2026 20:01
Re: #46
I figured the way it handles corpses and body parts would've caused backlash, but I guess not so much after all.

Background and Key Points of This Topic

Stands are a concept that first appeared in Part 3, which began serialization in 1989. The story that Araki invented them in a short span after his editor pointed out that Hamon had grown stale is relatively well known, having been recounted by Araki himself in multiple interviews. The thread also referenced Toriyama’s Cell redesign saga — his preferred second form was called “uncool,” leading to the third form — another well-documented account from Toriyama’s own interviews. Posters linked the two stories on the shared point that the more popular a manga gets, the heavier editorial intervention tends to become. Where opinions split was over which JoJo part is the best, with supporters of Parts 3 and 4 clashing against supporters of Parts 5 and 7, with no resolution reached. One easily misunderstood point, also noted in the article itself, is that Stands weren’t simply a reskin of Hamon — they were an entirely new storytelling rule: visualizing energy as a humanoid figure.

*This article was compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Araki Hirohiko: ‘About one or two weeks before Part 2 of JoJo ended, my editor told me he was sick of Hamon and wanted something different for Part 3, so I desperately came up with Stands’.”

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