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A post comparing screenshots of the new action game “Marvel’s Wolverine” with 1998’s “The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time” and the GameCube version of “Super Mario Sunshine” went viral overseas and sparked discussion on 5ch’s Hardware/Industry (Geha) board. Commenters pointed out rough water and lava effects, tree rendering, and character facial animation, and many voiced suspicions about internal changes at developer Insomniac Games as well as doubts about its review scores. The discussion expanded to include Nintendo’s long-standing dedication to water rendering and even practices involving consulting firms in the Western game industry.
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It's also being compared to the GameCube's Sunshine, you know Re: #1
Way too lame-looking.
Same here…
It's impressive how there's zero effort to make Wolverine look cool.
It's not just Zelda — when it comes to water effects, it's Nintendo as a whole, Mario included.
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There are paper-thin 2D trees too!
Forget the paper-thin trees — what's going on with that asphalt….
Seriously makes no sense.
They pay money in order to get the PC treatment.
Just thought that sounds insane, didn't you?
Yeah, it is insane.
And don't forget their "fighting spirit" either (sarcastic dig implying Sony's effort has flopped too).
It's getting a 20-30 point boost it doesn't deserve.
Without the "Sony bonus points," this would be more like a 30.
Straight into Sweet Baby's pockets.
You're so salty you can't even see straight anymore, huh lol
Lol, at least he knows he's the one getting dunked on.
Yeah, I never expected it'd take 20 years just to end up getting trolled with graphics from a 20-year-old game.
Re: #82
The team members have probably been swapped out.
Look at the Bungie acquisition — once a studio gets tied up with PlayStation,
it apparently takes tens of millions of yen in retention bonuses just to keep staff from leaving.
Something's seriously wrong internally.
Did they have layoffs recently or something?
Link's face when he picks up an item creeps me out.
He's doing a joyful pose but his face is completely blank, no emotion at all.
Does nobody at Nintendo find that weird?
Isn't that a homage to the original games?
Have you never actually played Zelda ("エアプ" = talking like you've played when you haven't)? Link mastered a whole range of situational facial expressions ages ago.
Did they forget how to make water?
Even The Last of Us let you see the bottom in shallow water.
Wolverine… come on.
Splashes floating in midair like a sloppy photoshop job😂ｆｗａａａａａａａａーーーーーーーwwwwwwwwww
In Dragon's Dogma on PS3, your character actually got soaked when you stepped into a river or whatever — doesn't this game have anything like that?
Same with the lava steam — the particle effects are used so weirdly it's hard to even tell what's supposed to be happening.
Background and Key Points of This Discussion
Nintendo titles, particularly the “Legend of Zelda” series, have long been praised for their water and lava effects, and that track record was cited repeatedly in this comparison. Meanwhile, “Sweet Baby Inc.,” the name that came up in the thread, is a consulting firm that advises on diversity representation in the Western game industry and has been a polarizing topic among Western gamers since around 2024; posters in this thread also voiced suspicions about its involvement. That said, claims about internal changes or layoffs at developer Insomniac Games remain speculation within the thread and are not confirmed facts. It’s also worth noting that 5ch’s Hardware/Industry (Geha) board tends to produce skewed takes on specific manufacturers, and impressions can shift depending on how comparison images are cropped or under what conditions they were captured.
※This article was compiled as excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hardware/Industry (Geha)) thread “[Bad News] Zelda: Ocarina of Time vs. Wolverine graphics comparison goes viral overseas.”
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