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A woman’s opinion posted on X (formerly Twitter) — that she feels disgust toward men who endured self-denial to build up ¥100 million in assets, since marrying one would likely mean being dragged into that same self-denial herself — was picked up on 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyo G” board (aka “Live Galileo”). The poster also argued that if a man’s only goal is to be popular with women, there’s really little need for him to save through self-denial in the first place. Reactions on the thread were split: some agreed, calling it “a fair point,” while many others pushed back, arguing that assets built through self-denial are exactly what have real value. Others pointed out that the whole debate actually originated from an anecdote about a man who had FIRE’d with ¥100 million and was introduced through a matchmaking service — broadening the discussion into questions about wealth-building and views on marriage.
Women don’t want to “endure” things, you know.
That’s exactly why I feel disgusted by guys who built ¥100 million through “endurance” — if I married one, I’d probably get dragged into that same endurance too.
If all you care about is being popular with women, there’s really not much need to endure hardship to build ¥100 million.
Source: x.com / original post here
What people said
There's no way a guy who nearly killed himself saving ¥100 million is gonna spend it on someone else.
Graduated from Sophia University, landed a job at a bank, and it comes to this? His parents must be in tears.
She's not "representing" matchmakers — she's from a matchmaking agency. Apparently the idea is: help this ¥100 million FIRE guy living off dividends find a woman willing to endure things for the rest of her life, for the sake of his marriage prospects.
You don't have any friends, do you? Your ID's glowing red from posting nonstop, and nobody's even replying to you. (On 5ch, a heavily-used ID gets flagged/highlighted, marking someone as posting obsessively.)
If he won't spend it on you, it's pointless.
There's actual research showing the smarter an animal is, the more it factors the future into its behavior.
You talk like you know it all, but every single post of yours is vague fluff lol. Bet you've bought some sketchy "get rich quick" course.
Fine by me — but first we need to sort out separate surnames for married couples and close the wage gap.
My old man worked from age 18 to 63 and saved ¥100 million.
If he'd actually invested it, it wouldn't have taken that long.
He does invest — the whole family maxes out their NISA accounts. (NISA is Japan's tax-free investment savings account.)
Started out on a ¥70,000 first paycheck, worked his way up to company president, and ended up with ¥400 million in lifetime earnings — so he retired two years early instead of waiting until 65.
If you actually check the original post this is linked from, you'll see — people who eat their meals sitting on the floor really shouldn't be having kids, since the kids will just copy them.
This woman's already sitting on something like a hundred million herself, you know.
Yeah, I'm not going out of my way to go look at something like that.
If you don't get it, don't bother replying — of course the conversation's not gonna line up then. So annoying.
Just have a normal amount of food, clothing, and shelter, normal social interaction, and normal entertainment — that's literally all it takes.
The fact that you're replying to this like your life depends on it says it really struck a nerve, huh.
Yeah, he does NISA too.
Wasn't into this topic so I had no idea. So the mainstream reaction is to mock him? Come on, who actually wants to keep working — honestly, I'm jealous.
The real question is whether anyone would actually want to marry a guy like that.
I think plenty of women would. The media seems to love mocking him, but he's probably just inconvenient for somebody's narrative.
Background and Key Points of This Debate
As becomes clear toward the end of the thread, this post appears to have been sparked by a case introduced by a matchmaking agency: a man who built ¥100 million in assets and FIRE’d was reportedly looking for a woman willing to endure a lifetime of self-denial alongside him. So the real debate wasn’t about high-income men in general — it was about the lifestyle of continually scaling back one’s standard of living in order to build wealth. Opinions on the thread split into two camps: those arguing that money saved through self-denial is unlikely to ever be spent on anyone else, and those countering that assets built through self-denial are precisely what makes them solid and trustworthy. No consensus emerged. Some also noted that 1.65 million households in Japan hold over ¥100 million in financial assets, suggesting the outcome isn’t necessarily the product of extreme self-denial alone. Worth keeping in mind: reading this purely as “disgust toward rich men,” without knowing the backstory, tends to miss the actual point of the debate.
*This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Sad News] Woman: “I feel disgusted by men who built ¥100 million through self-denial” ← Called a fair point, sparking debate wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.”
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