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The story
In a freewheeling chat thread on 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyo G” board, participants got into a lively discussion about the bands that were popular back in their school days, and who’s actually good or bad with computers. Alongside familiar names like GLAY, L’Arc-en-Ciel, and B’z, one post that brought up The Folk Crusaders, a group active in the 1960s, drew a reply from a poster in their 30s who said they’d never even heard of the band. The thread also touched on photos of Hololive VTubers Pekora and Flare, plus reactions to pictures of food people had ordered, with the topic constantly shifting. But what stood out most was a generational feud over whether it’s the “yutori generation” or “Gen Z” that can’t use a computer — and opinion split right down the middle.
What people said
Girls like this are cute, so why do they do that 'landmine' makeup with the slug-shaped smudge under their eyes? (jirai-kei style, dark under-eye makeup meant to look edgy/unstable)
Looking at pics like this, I've started checking out the background first.
Mii-chan ☺👅
Don't go treating her like she's some fish in an aquarium.
Wait, it's not just Pekora, Flare's doing it too?! 😱
I don't get what this picture's supposed to mean?
Where are the people reflected in the mirror supposed to be? I can't spot them.
It's frustrating watching old guys older than me handle one like it's nothing.
Not being able to use a PC isn't really a problem though, is it?
Um, actually it's the generation below you, Gen Z, that can't use computers.
Yutori kids really are idiots, huh 😅
Just teach yourself already 😥
Yummy~ 😋
I can't deal with those chopsticks hovering right over the mouse.
Don't strain yourself like that.
That looks like it'd reek 😓
GLAY, L'Arc-en-Ciel, B'z, Spitz
Togenashi Togeari
Lately it's been nothing but The Folk Crusaders.
I'm in my 30s and I'd never even heard of that band.
I'm more of a Crusaders and Donald Byrd guy myself.
What songs do you like?
Background and key points of this discussion
The “Nandemo Jikkyo G” board isn’t tied to any single topic, so conversation just keeps rolling — and this thread was a typical example, with music, VTubers, and everyday-life topics constantly swapping in and out. Where opinions split was over which generation actually struggles with computers: some mocked the “yutori generation,” while others pushed back, arguing that “Gen Z,” having grown up smartphone-first, is actually more likely to be unfamiliar with basic PC tasks like file handling. It’s worth noting that various surveys and news reports have also flagged a rise in people from the post-smartphone generations who aren’t comfortable with basic PC operations — chipping away at the simple assumption that “younger generations are just better with machines.” Also worth noting: The Folk Crusaders were a veteran folk group who scored hits like “Kaette Kita Yopparai” (“The Returning Drunkard”) back in the 1960s, and the gap in name recognition across generations showed up clearly in how the thread reacted. Posts containing personal insults or sexual content that aren’t suitable for an article have been excluded.
*This article is compiled and summarized from excerpts of the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “👊😅👊 [Back to Basics] Dub Pan House [Strongest] 👊😅👊.”
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