A post comparing how many music videos each group gets — “Tsubaki Factory gets new MVs even for songs that aren’t singles” versus “Juice=Juice can’t even get an MV for a new song, let alone a single, during a crucial period” — went viral on X (formerly Twitter), sparking a wave of reactions on 5ch’s Hello! Project thread. Commenters zeroed in on the fact that Tsubaki Factory has already gotten multiple MVs this year while Juice=Juice has gotten only one, offering theories ranging from how Up-Front allocates its budget, to differences in each group’s buzz, to whether a group has a tie-up deal with a local government. Opinions were split on the spending itself, with some offering harsh assessments likening it to “bureaucratic silo mentality.”
What people said
1AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:28
457 Anonymous [] 2026/10/21 (Wed) 21:24:04.69 0
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Tsubaki Factory gets a new MV even though it's not selling and isn't even a single
3AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:28
Wait, Tsubaki's song wasn't even a single?!
4AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:28
162 Anonymous [] 2026/10/21 (Wed) 21:28:37.95 0
Why does Tsubaki keep getting all the MVs? How many is that this year now?
BEYOOOOONDS only got one in a year and a half.
6AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:29
Didn't Juice=Juice also put out some weird MV?
7AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:29
If we're gonna scrape onto the Kōhaku lineup (NHK's New Year's Eve song contest), this year we don't need extra numbers padding things out.
9AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:30
Paid an agency to whip up a "viral" video, huh~
10AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:30
The agency clearly knows it's not selling.
12AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:30
They're probably pushing extra promo precisely because it's not selling.
13AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:30
Yeah! Yeah! Go Up-Front!
Let Tsubaki Factory burn through more budget!
Don't let Juice=Juice touch a cent!
14AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:30
They're selling fine without MVs, so why spend the money?
15AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:31
For once they actually spent real money promoting it, and there was just no return.
16AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:31
Seriously, this is pathetic.
If you're making an MV for a digital release, make one for the album's lead track too.
Make one for "Posi-Puro" and "Kura-Kura" too (fan shorthand for those song titles).
17AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:31
Only Tsubaki and ANGERME get this absurdly lavish treatment.
19AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:32
Isn't this just about making memories for Akiyama (likely tied to her graduation)?
20AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:32
Maybe it's precisely because they're not getting results.
It's ridiculous, honestly.
21AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:32
Is that why the Hello! Station live footage uploads stopped?
22AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:33
They're probably being extra cautious after "Bura-Bare" (a Juice=Juice MV) turned out to be such a disaster.
24AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:33
ANGERME and Tsubaki get shoved down our throats by the agency, it's annoying.
25AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:34
They stopped the full-length Hello! Station live footage, and what they made instead was "RED LINE" and Tsubaki's MV.
26AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:34
Guess it's nice they got an MV at all, even if it's an obviously cheap rush job.
29AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:35
Tsubaki might still have room to grow, but ANGERME…
[Breaking] ANGERME's old song "RED LINE" Autumn Tour live footage hits 71k views in 24 hours!
https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1791972098/
[Breaking] ANGERME's old song "RED LINE" Autumn Tour live footage hits 142k views in 1 week!
https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1792490498/
31AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:35
So we're just pretending "Bura-Bare" never happened?
33AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:37
Re: #31
It's just "Bura-Bare," right?
Why does Tsubaki get 4 MVs made while Juice only gets 1?
32AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:36
They did get an MV made… by AI, lol
34AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:37
Re: #1
Got absolutely flamed with replies from furious Tsubaki fans, lol
35AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:37
Of course the agency that pulled the fake "it's going viral" stunt knows full well it isn't actually viral.
36AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:38
It's probably about whether a group has sponsor-connected members or not.
37AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:38
They're on TV constantly anyway, so who cares.
39AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:40
Juice=Juice picked up a bunch of casual new fans but couldn't reel them in, so they got written off.
Now it's Tsubaki the agency's betting on instead, I guess.
40AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:40
Wait, if BEYOOOOONDS hadn't kept milking "Hai to Diamond," would they have gone without an MV for like two years?
42AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:40
They're probably spreading resources evenly so as not to tank member morale, but this agency doesn't get that right now they should be pushing Juice=Juice hard and letting the other groups ride that wave.
50AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:42
Re: #42
Guess this proves Up-Front runs on more bureaucratic silo mentality than fans even realized.
43AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:40
Tsubaki's songs are tied to local governments and TV stations, so they're basically forced to make MVs.
44AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:40
Juice=Juice has been posting tons of live footage all along, so it evens out, I guess.
45AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:40
Tsubaki's getting resources dumped on them for nothing, seriously.
Wish the agency would just give up on them already.
57AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:43
"Bura-Bare" doesn't have an ounce of love from the people who made it for Juice,
but this one? You can feel the love for Tsubaki — and especially for Maopin (a member's nickname).
72AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:48
Re: #57
There's real effort behind wanting to make something good.
"Bura-Bare" just felt like going through the motions.
75AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:49
Re: #57
Yeah, I kind of get that.
Maybe all this frustration has been building up from exactly that kind of thing.
59AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:44
It's fine if Morning Musume。 stays the top dog,
but this agency panics the moment any other group threatens to break out.
62AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:45
Re: #59
Uh, they've been doing the exact opposite this whole time though?
64AnonymousOct 21, 2026 21:45
Re: #59
If they actually cared about that, they wouldn't be neglecting Morning Musume。 this hard.
Background and Key Points of This Debate
Hello! Project runs multiple idol groups under the same agency, Up-Front, and it’s long been said that MV and video production isn’t handled uniformly across groups — it tends to skew based on buzz and promotional judgment calls. What sparked this discussion was the asymmetry: Tsubaki Factory has gotten multiple MVs even for songs that weren’t single releases, while Juice=Juice has had far fewer such opportunities. Within the thread, people pointed to possible explanations like whether a group has tie-up deals with local governments or regional broadcasters, and differences in each group’s recent buzz. That said, these are just speculation on 5ch, not an official explanation of the agency’s production policy or budget allocation. Judging a group’s “standing” by MV count alone is one-sided — it’s worth keeping in mind that different groups may be leaning on different promotional approaches, such as livestreamed concert footage or standalone streaming pushes for individual songs.
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