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  • Initial D Deserved to Be Way Bigger — 5ch: “The AE86 Is Just Showa-Era Scrap Metal”

    A post on 5ch’s Livegalileo board (a general live-commentary board) arguing that Initial D deserved to be more popular than it was sparked a wide-ranging discussion. The thread covered everything from opinions on the AE86 and Ryosuke Takahashi, to the romance subplot and mixed feelings about the later Project D arc, to how fans feel about the spin-off MF Ghost.

    1AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:44
    This is way too good
    2AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:45
    Would've been better without the unnecessary romance stuff
    4AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:47
    Re: #2
    You need some high school romance in there though
    3AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:46
    The art style hits just right
    Even decades later, rewatching it doesn't feel dated at all
    6AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:49
    It got so huge that AE86 prices are still sky-high today, and other FR manual cars haven't turned into junk either just for being FR MTs
    11AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:50
    Kinda put off that the heroine was into sugar-daddy dating (papa-katsu)
    84AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:28
    Re: #11
    Man, that was way ahead of its time…
    12AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:50
    The AE86 is slow anyway
    18AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:51
    Re: #12
    Takumi's AE86 isn't even really an AE86 anymore at that point
    21AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:52
    Re: #18
    A BMW is faster
    than a Corolla
    24AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:53
    Re: #18
    An AE86 is an AE86
    Showa-era scrap metal
    20AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:52
    The cars are great, but aren't the character designs kind of bad?
    29AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:55
    Re: #20
    Hard to say since the art style changes by season
    The character designs are actually good in the 3rd and 4th Stages
    30AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:55
    The anime is free to watch from the very start all the way through New Movie Edition 3
    33AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:56
    Re: #30
    That's why I'm binging it right now — it's so good I can't stop
    47AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:05
    Ryosuke Takahashi was written to seem cool, but he was actually pretty lame
    Burning through his parents' money to run his team and lord it over other teams
    50AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:07
    Re: #47
    That'd be fair if he did it behind his parents' backs, but was there actually a scene showing that?
    He said the reason he provoked other teams on his website was to get them to come at him for real
    51AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:08
    Re: #47
    Go drive a real mountain pass
    Initial D might as well be a video game
    70AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:17
    Re: #47
    I think it's fine since he's a student
    The rivals spent plenty of money on their cars too
    There were some rich kids among them as well
    It's not like Team D was the only one with money
    62AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:13
    Couldn't they have done something about that heroine's face?
    68AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:15
    Re: #62
    The Itsuki parts matter, but the Natsuki parts are the ones you skip
    64AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:13
    Re: #50
    If you're bringing that much manpower and equipment, mooching off your parents is the only option
    Remember, he's still just a student while he's out there going wild
    67AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:15
    Re: #64
    Maybe he was secretly making bank off investments on the side
    72AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:17
    Kids today probably have no clue why he's constantly rattling that shift lever around
    76AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:19
    Re: #72
    If you want that rattly gear-shift feeling, you can still get it from a Prius…
    73AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:18
    Re: #67
    I think it would've been good if they'd actually shown that
    Without it, he's basically just mooching off his hospital-director dad
    75AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:18
    Re: #73
    Ideally they'd have shown him landing sponsors through his racing itself
    79AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:24
    Re: #70
    Team D was clearly on another level
    Showing up with three Hiaces packed with gear, swapping tires nonstop, basically playing pro team
    While everyone else was grinding part-time jobs to scrape by
    89AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:33
    Re: #79
    Can't really help that when you're on the road
    The home team knows the course inside and out and has their car tuned for it, but Team D is seeing it for the first time and has to set up on the spot
    Wouldn't it be weirder if they showed up empty-handed and just dominated anyway?
    83AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:26
    They introduced the Impreza partway through, but the story ended without him ever switching away from the AE86
    100AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:45
    Re: #83
    There was actually supposed to be a rally arc
    But probably due to editorial or sponsor decisions to keep pushing the "fastest on public roads" formula, they kicked off the Project D arc instead
    That turned out to be completely unnecessary and just awful
    I mean, it was already way too fantastical from the start, but it's a manga, so it still would've wrapped up nicely otherwise
    92AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:35
    Maybe it's just because it's the YouTube stream, but up through around Stage 4 it's so blurry it feels like something's wrong with your eyes
    Wish they'd do a digital remaster
    93AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:36
    Re: #92
    Wish they'd also fix those terrible early police-chase battle scenes
    As for the trilogy movies, I just can't get on board with the art style or voice cast
    95AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:38
    What does the 'D' even stand for? I still don't know to this day
    97AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:38
    Re: #95
    Seems like it has several meanings
    For Project D, the D stands for 'Dream'
    96AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:38
    The funniest part is early on when Takumi gets clowned on as 'a guy who doesn't know the first thing about cars these days'
    98AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:39
    Re: #96
    That part's basically a power fantasy
    It's just satisfying and fun to watch

    Background and Key Points

    Initial D began as Shuichi Shigeno’s manga in 1995 and ran until 2013, spawning five TV anime series between 1998 and 2014, three live-action-style CG movies, and a Hong Kong live-action film. Its car of choice, the Toyota Sprinter Trueno/Corolla Levin AE86, was a cheap, unremarkable Japanese economy coupe from 1983–87 with no racing pedigree; it became a cult object specifically because of this franchise, not before it, which is why real AE86 prices are still inflated decades later, as the thread notes. The setting is touge racing — illegal nighttime downhill duels on narrow mountain passes, here fictionalized as Mount Akina in Gunma — a real, longstanding but unsanctioned subculture in Japan that the anime romanticizes without commentary. The board itself, Livegalileo, is a general live-chat board rather than an anime-specific one, so the tone skews toward casual car-culture nostalgia rather than close manga analysis.

    The actual point of disagreement wasn’t the AE86 or the racing itself but Ryosuke Takahashi: whether his Project D operation, bankrolled by his father’s money, makes him an admirable strategist or simply a rich kid throwing resources at amateur racers who fund themselves. Posters split over whether the manga ever justified this financially or just glossed over it.

    What’s likely to surprise outsiders is that even Shigeno himself has never pinned down what “D” officially stands for, giving different answers over the years (Drift, Dream, District, etc.) — the thread’s confusion on that point is faithful to the source, not a gap in fan knowledge.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Livegalileo board) thread “Initial D really deserved to be bigger, right?”.

  • Neighbor’s Demolition Turns Ugly: Police Called Over Missing Permits, 5ch Reports

    A thread on 5ch’s Newsoku VIP board reported a dispute over demolition work starting next door that escalated to calling the police. Officers showed up but only issued a warning, and posters quickly noted that neither the demolition company’s name nor a required permit notice was posted anywhere on site. The thread grew into a discussion of legal requirements, with users pointing out that removal of asbestos-containing materials requires advance notification, and others suggesting a report to the Labor Standards Office.

    1AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:54
    Police are here
    8AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:57
    You don't use a bulldozer for demolition
    11AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:58
    Re: #8
    They're using one
    Some kind of CAT (Caterpillar) machine
    19AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:00
    Wait, wasn't your house supposed to be surrounded by roads on three sides, with only one side bordering a vacant lot?
    I remember you writing something like that back in the sensor-light drama thread
    20AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:01
    Re: #19
    Sensor light?
    21AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:01
    So that's why the police came, right?
    What happened?
    22AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:01
    Re: #21
    They're getting a warning right now
    33AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:05
    Re: #27
    Unless the other guy's yakuza-affiliated or actually breaking a law, nothing's gonna happen, right?
    37AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:07
    Re: #33
    Huh?
    They ARE breaking the law
    Demolition of asbestos-containing material requires wetting it down first
    and advance notification is mandatory
    34AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:05
    Whenever someone asks this guy why he'd bother hiding his ID when there's no need to, he never answers
    38AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:08
    Re: #34
    Is it actually required to post one?
    40AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:09
    What's the name of the demolition company?
    41AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:10
    Going ID-less is itself an ID (in 5ch, you can hide your poster ID)
    They're all the same person
    44AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:11
    I've got my own demolition neighbor drama going on right now too
    53AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:17
    Re: #44
    Right?
    Are they doing something illegal?
    47AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:13
    Re: #43
    Nope
    Everyone hiding their ID here is you
    50AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:14
    Re: #47
    Not me lol
    49AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:13
    Straight to the bulldozer for demolition? lol
    Are they filming a movie or something lol
    55AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:19
    Re: #49
    Don't they sort it by material type?
    64AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:23
    Re: #55
    Not sure if it's day one of demolition, but you normally don't use a bulldozer for this lol
    Going straight to the bulldozer is either Showa-era yakuza business or a movie shoot lol
    67AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:25
    Re: #64
    It's yellow and black? and it says CAT on it
    71AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:27
    Re: #53
    They're smashing through the demolition without spraying any water at all
    The dust is insane, my laundry's covered in it
    And of course there was zero advance notice
    No demolition permit posted either, it's a company that clearly doesn't care about the neighbors and won't even give their name
    Calling the police was completely pointless
    72AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:28
    Re: #71
    What do you mean calling the police was pointless?
    74AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:29
    Re: #67
    Isn't that a mini excavator? It's got an arm (the hand-like attachment on heavy equipment)
    Anyway if you want to know the company name, there's a sign posted — just look at that, it's got the demolition permit info on it too
    77AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:30
    Re: #74
    That's exactly it!
    No sign, no demolition permit
    81AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:30
    Re: #72
    Apparently depending on the size of the demolition site they're supposed to post a permit notice, but not doing it isn't actually a crime, so nobody will do anything about it
    Since I don't even know the demolition company's name, I can't even file a complaint about the noise, dust, or vibration
    84AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:31
    Re: #81
    That's a city hall matter
    Civil, not criminal
    91AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:35
    Hang in there
    By the way, I once had a guy pretend to apologize and then try to headbutt me point-blank
    I barely dodged it, so be careful
    100AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:39
    Police first
    Then a report to the Labor Standards Office, maybe?
    101AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:39
    Re: #100
    You really know your stuff
    That's exactly right
    102AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:40
    Re: #99
    Are the police actually coming? How many people are on site right now anyway? If this goes badly the crew might get hauled in lol
    106AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:41
    Re: #102
    They're already here
    116AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:48
    For a single-house demolition, they often don't bother putting up a sign, right?
    118AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:48
    Re: #116
    It's two buildings
    And not posting one is a violation of the ordinance
    123AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:50
    Re: #116
    Normally it has to be posted somewhere visible to ordinary passersby too — maybe it's just hidden because the site's so cramped?
    Though in this case it sounds like there's just nothing there lol

    Background and Key Points

    Neighborhood demolition in Japan runs on a layered set of rules that this thread only partly gets right. Under the Construction Recycling Act, contractors demolishing buildings above a certain size must post a notice board at the site listing the company name, the registered demolition permit number, and the site supervisor — a requirement several posters correctly cited, and the site’s silence on both company name and permit is what triggered the “call the police” escalation. Separately, the Air Pollution Control Act and related asbestos ordinances require pre-work surveys and advance notification to authorities before disturbing asbestos-containing material, plus dust suppression (commonly wetting debris down) during removal — the “no water spraying” complaint posters raised. Police involvement here is a red herring: officers can only respond to an active crime (trespassing, assault, obstruction), not to a paperwork violation, which is why they issued a warning and left.

    Where the thread actually splits is on consequence: some posters treat the missing notice board as proof of an outright illegal operation worth fearing, while others (correctly) point out that failing to post the sign is a municipal/administrative violation, not a criminal one — meaning the appropriate next step is a complaint to city hall or the Labor Standards Office, not the police.

    What the thread never spells out for outside readers is jurisdictional: enforcement of these demolition and asbestos rules doesn’t sit with the police at all but with municipal building-safety divisions and labor bureaus, agencies most residents rarely interact with. That gap explains both the poster’s frustration (“calling the police was pointless”) and why identifying the contractor — normally trivial via the legally required signage — becomes the actual bottleneck once that signage is simply absent.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Newsoku VIP) thread “Demolition Next Door Is Causing Me Trouble WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.”

  • Domestic Rice Prices Keep Falling — 5ch Reacts: “Way Too Fast lol”

    Prices for domestically grown rice have been gradually falling, with some 5kg bags now going for just over ¥2,000. On 5ch, users express surprise at how fast prices have dropped, reigniting complaints about JA (the Japan Agricultural Cooperatives) and farmers from when prices spiked, along with debates over what counts as a “fair price.” Opinions are divided over the price gap with other countries and accusations of price-gouging resellers.

    1AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:08
    Way too fast lol
    6AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:12
    Why is it that the people saying "I won't forgive rice price hikes" go dead silent about the rising cost of seedlings, farm equipment, and pesticides?
    17AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:16
    Re: #6
    People are complaining because prices suddenly jumped 2-3x by exploiting panic-buying after a natural disaster. Are you dense?
    41AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:22
    Re: #6
    If all of those had tripled too, I could accept rice tripling as well, but even at their worst those only went up about 1.5x. So shouldn't rice have gone up by roughly that much too? Why did rice that used to be ¥1,500 jump past ¥5,000?
    71AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:29
    Re: #6
    I wouldn't complain about a roughly 3% annual increase. It's just that a +50% year-over-year jump is way too greedy — drop dead, basically.
    11AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:14
    Some people seem to have forgotten what rice used to cost, so let me post this reminder:






    10kg: ¥2,690
    5kg: ¥1,345
    That's the fair price. Anything above that is a rip-off.
    14AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:15
    Re: #11
    Then just never eat it again. Ever.
    25AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:18
    World rice prices per 5kg:
    🇯🇵 Japan: ¥4,000
    🇺🇸 USA: ¥1,600
    🇰🇷 South Korea: ¥1,500
    🇦🇺 Australia: ¥1,100
    🇪🇺 Europe: ¥900
    🇹🇭 Thailand: ¥900
    🇨🇳 China: ¥700
    🇻🇳 Vietnam: ¥500

    When sold in Japan, the price gets "corrected" to match this ↓

    27AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:18
    "¥1,359 for 5kg of rice is the fair price. JA is selling it to the public at three times that just to line its own pockets."
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/583afc1c4cba913c9bf8a520dc50dd7bff3bee34

    Prices really should have come back down to around ¥1,300-something per 5kg. Households are already struggling with inflation, yet JA and the Ministry of Agriculture committed the grave sin of forcing consumers to buy rice at all-time-high prices.
    JA, which wields huge influence over how rice prices are set, has reportedly been driving prices up by inflating stockpiles — isn't this a violation of antitrust law?




    49AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:24
    Re: #27
    Some people seem confused, but JA mostly sells only to wholesalers/businesses — it isn't really dealing with the general public to begin with. The only JA product aimed at regular consumers is Pearl Rice. It's the rice trading companies that actually sell to the public.
    64AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:26
    Re: #27
    The futures market's been busy manipulating prices one minute and playing fair the next.
    53AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:25
    Wheat, the Western staple, runs about ¥150-300 at local prices. Japan's staple wheat runs ¥400-900. Even accounting for wage levels, that's abnormally expensive.
    55AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:26
    Re: #53
    You meant "rice," not "wheat," for Japan's staple food.
    59AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:26
    Re: #53
    Japan's a high-cost country no matter what you do, so selling off its own labor is about all that's left.
    147AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:46
    Re: #53
    Probably the difference in subsidies.
    78AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:30
    Rice prices have basically been falling for 30 years straight — this is just a temporary bounce-back.

    Fertilizer, fuel, and labor costs all keep rising, so of course farmers can't keep up otherwise.
    102AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:36
    Re: #78
    If they'd said "fertilizer costs went up, fuel costs went up, please let us raise prices this much," the way Akagi Nyugyo (a confectionery maker famous for its price-hike apology ad) did, consumers would have understood and kept buying. But instead prices suddenly tripled and they ran newspaper ads insisting THIS is the fair price — that's what turned everyone against them overnight. People say the farmers aren't at fault, but if they're backing JA's tactics, they can't complain about getting lumped in with them.
    112AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:38
    Re: #102
    Turns out that Akagi Nyugyo was actually running a full-on cartel… What was all that online praise for Akagi Nyugyo even about?
    120AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:40
    Re: #102
    Farmers aren't backing JA by choice — they have no option but to do as JA says. That was national policy. Farmers only get paid the fixed provisional price JA sets.
    101AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:36
    Rice prices have dropped a lot, so why haven't bento boxes, onigiri, restaurant meals, or conveyor-belt sushi gotten any cheaper?
    110AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:37
    Re: #101
    Because it's an opportunistic price hike riding on rice's coattails.
    111AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:38
    Re: #101
    Kind of like how prices didn't come down even when gasoline dropped sharply.
    114AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:38
    Re: #101
    That's a well-known phenomenon in economics — once a price gets raised due to higher input costs, it almost never comes back down even after input costs fall.

    Normally you could spin that positively as "that's how wages eventually rise," but Japanese companies just hoard the extra profit, so who knows.
    109AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:36
    Is this whole "rice farmers aren't allowed to turn a profit" mentality coming from people looking down on rice farmers?
    113AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:38
    Re: #109
    It's you who's looking down on people — assuming consumers are dumb enough to keep buying even at triple the price. Buying and selling only works on trust between buyer and seller.
    115AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:38
    Re: #109
    The moment you're driving a ¥10 million combine harvester or tractor, you're already in a different league than us poor folks.
    117AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:39
    Re: #109
    All we're saying is: "farmers, go back to being slaves like before."

    We're not asking for tax money to be poured in or for income support for agriculture, not even a little.

    We're just saying farmers should go back to working like slaves who don't care about profitability. It's not a complicated request.
    119AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:40
    The price near me last week:
    127AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:42
    Re: #119
    Kyushu switches over fast, nice.
    137AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:44
    We've reached the point where new-crop rice is actually cheaper than old.
    144AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:45
    Re: #137
    Is this one any good? I've seen it before.
    148AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:46
    Re: #137
    Whoa, Fukui rice, impressive. Obviously buying the new crop.

    See, wholesalers have to cut their losses and sell or they're in trouble.
    156AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:50
    Must be nice going through life just blaming everything on Chinese people.
    161AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:52
    Re: #156
    People really do forget fast, huh.

    https://diamond.jp/articles/-/360463
    165AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:53
    Re: #161
    Seriously, these scummy resellers are the worst.

    Background and Key Points

    Rice is Japan’s most politically sensitive food, and its price has never been a simple free market. For decades the government ran *gentan*, a rice-acreage reduction policy paying farmers to grow less, while a roughly 778% tariff wall keeps foreign rice out except for a small WTO “minimum access” import quota. JA (Japan Agricultural Cooperatives) sits in the middle of this system, historically buying most of the harvest at a provisional price it sets, not the farmers. In 2024-25, a poor harvest, heat damage, and panic-buying after a Nankai Trough earthquake advisory triggered the so-called “Reiwa rice crisis,” pushing a 5kg bag from a historical norm near ¥1,300-2,000 up past ¥4,000-5,000. The government responded by releasing emergency stockpiles, and prices are now sliding back toward ¥2,000.

    The thread doesn’t split over whether prices rose — everyone agrees they did — it splits over whether that rise was justified. One camp treats the old ¥1,300-2,000 range as the only “fair” price and calls anything above it gouging by JA or resellers; another argues input costs (fertilizer, fuel, equipment) genuinely rose ~50% and farmers, who don’t set their own prices, shouldn’t be blamed for JA’s or distributors’ decisions.

    What the thread misses is the structural point: JA mostly deals wholesale, not retail (post 49 half-notices this), so the “villain” consumers pictured overcharging them at the register is usually a trading company or supermarket, not JA itself. Nor does anyone connect the price spike to decades of *gentan* deliberately shrinking supply — the policy that made today’s “return to normal” possible only because stockpiles existed to release.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from a 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo/”Everything Live” board) thread titled “Domestic rice is finally dropping to around ¥2,000 for 5kg wwwwwwwwwwwwwww.”

  • New Rice Hits Shelves, Prices Drop — Some 5kg Bags Now Under ¥2,000

    With the new rice harvest reaching stores, wholesale prices have fallen and some shops are now selling 5kg bags for under ¥2,000 (tax included) — sparking discussion on 5ch. While many welcomed the drop, opinions were split: some praised the agriculture minister for resisting calls to boost production during the price spike, others vented about convenience store rice balls that never came back down after being marked up, and some took aim at farmers who they say cashed in during the high-price period.

    1AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:53
    @
    Rice prices crashing. Love it.
    @
    15AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:02
    After training myself to eat as little rice as possible, even this still feels expensive.
    17AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:05
    Re: #15
    A bowl of rice is back down to 20 yen and you're still calling it expensive? lol
    21AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:07
    Re: #15
    What have you even been eating this whole time lol
    24AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:08
    I want the 5-pack of 200g microwave rice to drop back under 500 yen.
    32AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:13
    Re: #24
    Exactly
    Sato's microwave rice packs got jacked up so much it's like, who's even buying that anymore.
    26AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:08
    Convenience store rice balls better drop in price too.
    Don't just fob us off with "sales" and "campaigns."
    143AnonymousAug 22, 2026 12:03
    Re: #26
    Convenience stores bought their rice in bulk at the high price.
    They can't budge until that stock clears.
    If prices don't fall once they restock this year, that's on them.
    31AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:11
    Re: #1
    The photo in image 3 is old rice, isn't it.
    Look closely at image 2 too, it says harvested in Reiwa 7 (2025).
    68AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:39
    Re: #31
    Why are you stating the obvious?

    The thread title literally says new rice is hitting the market — which means last year's rice is what's crashing in price.

    Do you have zero reading comprehension or what lol
    42AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:47
    Guess Agriculture Minister Suzuki was right after all.
    Really shows how short-sighted and reactionary the people demanding he ramp up production were.
    45AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:53
    Re: #42
    How would he know about the guys hoarding it in warehouses?
    The market was short, so ramping up production was the obvious call.
    46AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:54
    Re: #42
    He doesn't look like much, but he's got real nerve — genuinely competent.
    43AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:51
    I've been living on pasta, but maybe it's time to go back to rice.
    48AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:55
    Re: #45
    If they'd boosted production back then, we'd have a glut right now and farmers would be screaming about it instead.
    51AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:59
    Re: #48
    The ones who caused the glut are the guys who sat on the first batch of released reserve rice instead of selling it — that's on them.
    52AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:59
    I've literally never bought rice in my life.
    53AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:00
    Re: #52
    Rice farmer?
    Or just broke?
    54AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:00
    Re: #52
    Which ex-minister is this guy? (a jab referencing a real politician's infamous "I've never bought rice" gaffe)
    55AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:04
    Re: #17
    I got by telling myself pasta's fine, or okonomiyaki (savory Japanese pancake) made from flour and leftover veggies is fine — and along the way my whole lifestyle shifted to where I just don't need much rice anymore.
    72AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:45
    So this was just a bottleneck somewhere in the supply chain the whole time — and that's exactly why they even released the reserve rice stockpile, right?
    Someone should be held accountable for causing this.
    Are they just going to sweep it under the rug in the end?
    73AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:46
    Re: #72
    Well, that's because Minister Suzuki is competent.
    82AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:56
    Honestly, is rice even that tasty to begin with?
    92AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:13
    Re: #82
    No way, rice is easily the tastiest staple food out there.
    People just won't buy it when it's like 4,000 yen for 5kg.
    93AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:14
    Me: Hey conbini, you can lower the price of rice balls now, right?
    7-Eleven: ………
    Me: Uh, hello? Anybody home?
    Lawson: ………
    FamilyMart: ………
    95AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:15
    Re: #93
    Retail pricing on the shelf and wholesale pricing to vendors run on completely different systems.
    103AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:20
    So basically it gets marked up somewhere between leaving the farmer cheap and arriving at my door?
    104AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:21
    Re: #103
    Be grateful to wholesalers like JA (Japan Agricultural Cooperatives).

    Background and Key Points

    New rice hits Japan’s shelves each autumn once the harvest — labeled by the imperial era year, here “Reiwa 7” (2025) — comes in, and prices reset from whatever the previous crop year’s supply-and-demand left behind. The 2024–25 season saw a well-documented shortage: warehouse hoarding and speculative buying up the chain (not farmers holding back at the source) pushed 5kg bags toward ¥4,000, prompting the government to release emergency reserve rice. Agriculture minister Suzuki drew scrutiny for not ordering an output increase during that spike; with the new harvest now pushing bags back under ¥2,000, posters read that restraint as vindicated.

    The thread’s real fault line isn’t the price drop itself — nobody disputed that’s good news — it’s whether Suzuki’s decision was foresight or luck. One camp argues boosting production mid-crisis would have simply created today’s glut a year early, dumping the pain on farmers instead of consumers; the other counters he couldn’t have known hoarders were the bottleneck and that the “obvious” move at the time was still to increase supply. That’s an argument about a counterfactual policy call, not about anything happening in stores now.

    What the thread’s convenience-store complaints skip over is the structural reason konbini rice balls haven’t cheapened: retailers like 7-Eleven, Lawson, and FamilyMart lock in bulk wholesale contracts well ahead of sale, so they’re still working through rice bought at peak prices, and shelf pricing doesn’t move in lockstep with wholesale spot prices the way a supermarket bag might. Readers unfamiliar with JA (the Japan Agricultural Cooperatives), the dominant intermediary between farmers and retailers, may also assume farmers pocketed the shortage-era markup, when much of that margin sits with distributors and wholesalers instead.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “New rice hits the market, prices crash, 5kg now under 2,000 yen tax included wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.”

  • Shop Fails to Spot Doctored Card, Pays ¥7 Million for It — 5ch: “Are the Cops Gonna Get Involved Here? lol”

    A post on 5ch’s livestream discussion board claims a card shop failed to notice that a high-value trading card had been altered before buying it. Based on the photos, the card appears to be a first-edition (“old back”) Holographic Charizard, bought for ¥7 million — and it’s suspected the edges were trimmed to make a worn card look mint. The thread is split on whether this amounts to fraud, or whether it’s simply the shop’s own negligence for missing it during appraisal.

    1AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:48
    Feel bad for them.
    3AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:49
    Is there actually a point to cutting it down in size?
    65AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:01
    Re: #3
    If it's a different size from the rest of the cards, you can feel it out while shuffling and bring it right back to the top of the deck.
    154AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:33
    Re: #65
    Isn't it meant to be used in a sleeve?
    268AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:18
    Re: #65
    I figured it wouldn't matter if it was trimmed subtly enough that you couldn't tell just by looking — but that's the reason, huh. I guess that makes it a fraudulent, altered card.
    6AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:50
    They trimmed off the beat-up edges to make it look mint.
    214AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:54
    Re: #6
    Ah, I see lol
    7AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:50
    Are the cops actually gonna get involved in this? lol
    36AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:56
    Re: #7
    Probably not. Even if it's clearly a forgery made with intent to defraud, it'd be hard to prove the person who brought it in actually had that intent.
    248AnonymousAug 22, 2026 11:05
    Re: #7
    A botched appraisal on a secondhand buy… I wonder if the police would really move on this.
    12AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:51
    Clerk: "Um, excuse me, this trading card has been shaved down by a few millimeters!!"

    Officers: "…?"
    32AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:55
    Re: #12

    You shouldn't underestimate this.
    226AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:58
    Re: #32
    Sounds like the type to bash welfare recipients.
    30AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:54
    Even if it was cut down, there's no way to prove who actually did it.
    37AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:56
    Re: #30
    Proving the person who brought it in is the one who did it is probably impossible.
    39AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:56
    Re: #30
    This card itself is way too old to begin with. If they just say "it was already like this when I got it from somewhere years ago," that's pretty much game over.
    58AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:00
    This is just bait to drum up money on the side lol
    84AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:07
    Re: #58
    What's with the idiots who fall for stuff like this, or LINE sign-up scams?
    91AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:10
    If there's a recorded exchange from the appraisal like "Did you polish it?" / "No, I didn't," that's fraud. But if it's "Did you polish it?" / "I got it as a single card and don't recall polishing it myself," then there's no issue.
    94AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:11
    Re: #91
    Sounds like Mercari lol (Japan's big secondhand marketplace app)
    117AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:19
    Re: #91
    There's a chance that exchange never even happened in the first place.
    100AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:13
    How much is this card even worth?
    103AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:14
    Re: #100
    Holographic Charizard
    First-edition "old back" print
    Buy price: ¥7,000,000
    110AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:16
    Re: #100
    According to Dr. Google, the buy price is ¥7 million.
    172AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:40
    If the person who brought it in for sale "knew" it had been trimmed, then under the principle of good faith they'd have had an obligation to disclose that.
    184AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:45
    Re: #172
    There's no such obligation lol
    212AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:53
    Re: #202
    Re: #172 is talking about a case where the person who brought it in knew it had been cut. If it's a one-owner item, there's no way they wouldn't have known (or rather, they're the one who cut it). But if it changed hands as a used resale, proving that would be next to impossible.
    175AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:42
    Like, if you sold a car without disclosing it had actually been in an accident, that'd be a problem, right? Well, normally you'd check for that anyway and it'd show up in the appraisal.
    180AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:43
    Re: #175
    Uh, the shop is the one who did the appraisal lol
    183AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:44
    Re: #175
    It's not like it was in an "accident" — it's more like they just buffed the whole thing with polishing compound.
    190AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:46
    Instead of outing themselves as the idiot who couldn't spot it, they should've just sold it to some other idiot who also couldn't spot it.
    198AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:49
    Re: #190
    If they'd pretended to be an amateur and listed it on Mercari, it probably would've sold. The buyers there are resellers too, so there's no way they'd catch it.
    200AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:49
    Re: #190
    Their head's probably full of "I'm the victim here!! Mommy, help!!"
    202AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:50
    Re: #193
    Yeah, but how are you gonna prove whether the seller deliberately shaved a few millimeters off the card's edge, or just resold it without noticing lol? It's the shop's own fault for failing to catch it during appraisal lol
    211AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:53
    Re: #202
    I ran your argument through an AI — it says you win, though while criminal charges are a stretch, pursuing a refund and return through civil court is possible, it says.


    You're right that the bar for pursuing this as a criminal matter (filing fraud charges) is, in reality, quite high.
    For investigators (police/prosecutors) to pursue and indict this as a criminal case, they need proof that goes beyond a "suspicious" level — proof beyond reasonable doubt that the person absolutely intended to lie and deceive.
    The main reasons criminal charges are difficult, and the line at which police would actually act, are as follows:
    Why criminal charges (fraud) are difficult
    The barrier of proving "intent" (proving what's in someone's mind): If the seller keeps insisting "I genuinely didn't notice" or "I figured it was fine since a professional appraiser accepted it," it's difficult for police to prove that claim is a lie.
    216AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:54
    LMAOOO!


    220AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:56
    Re: #216
    Lol. Yeah, even taking this to civil court would just turn into a he-said-she-said.
    224AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:57
    Re: #216
    Hmm, true — if they just claim "it got shaved down after the shop bought it, that's on the shop," there doesn't seem to be any way to win.
    225AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:58
    Re: #216
    Card shops take photos at the time of purchase to document the condition, so whether it happened before or after the buyback isn't actually an issue.

    Background and Key Points

    Japan’s used-card shops (kaitori) are a huge secondhand economy — the same chains that buy back electronics, brand goods, and books also run dedicated Pokémon card counters, because a single “old back” (1996-97 first-print) Holographic Charizard in near-mint condition can fetch six or seven figures in yen. Trimming — shaving a few millimeters off a worn card’s edges to fake a sharper, higher grade — is a known scam in the trading-card world globally, not just in Japan; it’s why professional graders (PSA, BGS) measure card dimensions against factory spec before certifying condition. A shop paying out ¥7 million (roughly $47,000) implies staff either graded it as near-mint or didn’t check dimensions carefully, which is the appraisal failure the thread is mocking.

    The split isn’t over whether the card was altered — everyone assumes it was — but over who’s liable: is trimming-to-deceive fraud on the part of whoever sold it, or is it entirely on the shop for not catching an alteration that’s supposedly checkable during appraisal? Posters converge on the same practical answer: intent is nearly impossible to prove, especially with a card decades old that may have changed hands many times, so criminal fraud charges are unlikely even if a civil refund claim might work.

    What the thread doesn’t dwell on is the one fact that actually matters for any dispute: reputable buyback shops photograph an item’s condition at the moment of purchase specifically to prevent “it got damaged after you bought it” claims — which one poster notes near the end, but only in passing, even though it’s the detail that would decide any real dispute.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Livegalileo/Anything Goes) thread “[Breaking] Card Shop Buys Altered High-Value Card Without Noticing, Ends Up Utterly Humiliated LMAOOOOOOOOOO“.

  • Asked for Otaru travel tips, locals flood in with answers — 5ch: ‘The canal at midnight is just gorgeous’

    In a thread titled “Heading to Otaru,” locals and past visitors chimed in one after another with specific recommendations — the night view from Mt. Tengu, Shukutsu Observatory, and a late-night stroll along the Otaru Canal.

    They also shared practical heads-up info worth knowing before the trip: sea urchin season is over, so you’ll need to head out to Shakotan for that, and restaurant prices run high thanks to tourist-area markups.

    1AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:14
    Any recommendations?
    4AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:17
    The Mt. Tengu Ropeway in Otaru, home to one of Hokkaido's three great night views
    6AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:19
    Lived there back in my student days — sounds like it's way more touristy now.
    For seafood you don't need a proper sushi place, a seafood izakaya is delicious too.
    I'd recommend Shobo Banya or Shotoku Taishi.
    9AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:21
    Restaurants in the tourist areas are pricey, so budget for meals accordingly.
    10AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:22
    I'm a fan of Takuboku, so I went to see his poetry monument (Ishikawa Takuboku, the famous early-20th-century poet).
    It was in the grounds of a shrine up a hill, a little off the main tourist path.
    Not a soul around.
    11AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:23
    There used to be a little independent izakaya called Isshin Tasuke or something — their atka mackerel and dried fish were great.
    12AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:23
    Meals are technically included, three a day, but eating out on top of that gets pricey I guess?
    13AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:24
    It's pricey.
    With the cost of living up, the food quality's dropped too.
    15AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:25
    Asari or Otamoi — which driving school is it?
    16AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:26
    Asari doesn't really feel like Otaru lol
    That's basically the next town over.
    17AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:26
    Truth is, Gold Stone is the only thing I've actually seen there.
    18AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:26
    Are you going for a large-vehicle license?
    24AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:29
    Re: #18
    No, just a regular license.
    21AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:28
    Sea urchin season in Otaru's already over, so you'd have to go all the way to Shakotan to get any.
    22AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:28
    What's Gold Stone?
    25AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:30
    Re: #22
    A fantastic live house that Hello! Project idol acts favor.
    26AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:30
    Is the driving school training camp in Otaru cheap?
    28AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:31
    How much fun you have really depends on which town the training dorm is in, I'd think.
    44AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:49
    Re: #26
    Not especially cheap.
    Actually it's crazy expensive in August.

    Re: #28
    Right in front of JR Otaru Station.
    30AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:34
    Here's Otaru's famous Shukutsu Observatory

    https://gzo.ai/i/ynyWZkQ.jpg
    And the night view from Mt. Tengu

    https://gzo.ai/i/LTdRWAG.jpg
    46AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:51
    Re: #30
    The first shot really hits.

    Re: #39
    φ(´・ω・`) noted

    Re: #40
    Which aquarium is that?
    38AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:41
    So the Herring Mansion at Cape Otamoi is gone too now, huh.
    52AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:55
    Re: #38
    It's all run-down these days.
    39AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:41
    My top recommendation has to be the local Chinese diner, Gokou Hanten.
    40AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:43
    You can only reach the aquarium by bus, but it's great — plenty of shows to catch.
    If your timing's good you can see about five in a row.
    47AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:52
    Didn't get your license when you were young?
    51AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:55
    Re: #47
    Nope.
    Now that I'm middle-aged, work finally let me take a long stretch off this year.
    53AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:56
    Re: #1
    Are you from Hokkaido?
    Where's your hometown?
    59AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:59
    Re: #53
    I'm from Tokyo.

    Re: #54
    I'll check it out.
    54AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:56
    Re: #46
    The first pic is the Sea of Japan seen from the hill above Otaru Aquarium.
    You can walk up, but you'll be drenched in sweat.
    57AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:58
    It moved to a new location, but it's still around.
    63AnonymousAug 17, 2026 23:02
    Re: #57
    Ah, thanks.
    There's a Rosy-chan (idol) live show in October, might go check it out.
    62AnonymousAug 17, 2026 23:01
    You're from Tokyo — why go all the way to Otaru to get your license?
    66AnonymousAug 17, 2026 23:05
    Re: #62
    Figured since I'm at it, I'd rather do Hokkaido or somewhere south of Kyushu, and this one happened to have an opening.

    Re: #64
    φ(´・ω・`) noted
    64AnonymousAug 17, 2026 23:02
    The Otaru Canal at midnight is a great walk, about 10 minutes from the station.
    During the day and evening tourists get in the way,
    but the canal late at night is just gorgeous.
    72AnonymousAug 17, 2026 23:28
    Staying right in front of Otaru Station basically screams 'go sightsee while you're here.'
    73AnonymousAug 17, 2026 23:29
    Re: #72
    Sadly I'm an introvert, but I'll force myself to get out and about.
    89AnonymousAug 18, 2026 00:09
    Isn't Yoichi all about whisky?
    92AnonymousAug 18, 2026 00:12
    Re: #89
    There's a winery there too.
    93AnonymousAug 18, 2026 00:13
    Anyway, the place is crawling with foreign tourists.
    94AnonymousAug 18, 2026 00:15
    Re: #93
    So no different from Tokyo's Yamanote Line then.

    Background and Key Points

    The thread’s real subtext is a Japanese institution most outsiders have never heard of: 合宿免許 (gasshuku menkyo), or “training-camp driving school.” Japan’s licensing system requires costly hours at a driving school, and rural operators offer discounted, dorm-based intensive courses — meals included — to attract customers from cities like Tokyo, filling their off-peak calendars. That’s why a Tokyoite is headed to Otaru at all: not primarily for the canal, but to knock out a license in a small port city on Hokkaido’s coast, about 30–40 minutes from Sapporo by train. Otaru itself trades on its Taisho-era canal (built 1923) and Meiji-Taisho herring-boom warehouses, one of which, the old “Herring Mansion,” posters note has since fallen into disrepair as that industry vanished decades ago.

    The thread doesn’t really argue so much as drift into small disagreements: whether nearby Asari counts as “really” Otaru (locals say no, it’s basically a different town), and whether the training-camp course itself is actually cheap — one poster insists it isn’t, especially in August, when demand spikes and rates climb.

    What outside readers will likely miss is the source board itself: this is a Hello! Project (idol fandom) thread, which is why a live house recommendation and an idol group’s October show get folded in alongside sushi and night-view tips as if equally routine — a reminder that “travel advice” threads on 5ch are often filtered through a specific fan community’s habits rather than neutral tourism chatter.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Heading to Otaru”.

  • Late-Night 5ch Thread Lights Up: “Which SNES Classics Still Hold Up Today?”

    A late-night chat thread on 5ch’s “Live/Anything Goes” (Nanademo Jikkyo) board ranged over everything from anime movie talk to VTuber clips to retro games. One question in particular got things buzzing: “Which Super Famicom (SNES) games are still fun to play today?” drew a steady stream of classics, from *Sandra no Daibouken* (a cult Japan-only puzzle-platformer) to *Super Metroid*.

    6AnonymousAug 22, 2026 01:18
    Kanatan's the judge here






    Kuko is… a trap 🙅
    12AnonymousAug 22, 2026 01:26
    I can't hold out on the Walpurgisnacht no Kaiten machine any longer
    Gonna play the Madoka Magica pachinko slots and use my winnings to go watch Rebellion
    17AnonymousAug 22, 2026 01:32
    Re: #12
    Does Kagawa even have a theater that can afford to run revival screenings?
    34AnonymousAug 22, 2026 02:12
    Who the hell is F9?
    44AnonymousAug 22, 2026 02:18
    Re: #34
    F9 is the legendary script-spamming troll that Okera calls his master
    Though Okera does his own spamming by hand
    108AnonymousAug 22, 2026 03:43
    This character changes their voice and speech pattern to match their personality — seriously like Conan (Detective Conan's voice-changing bowtie)
    109AnonymousAug 22, 2026 03:44
    Re: #108
    Is this game actually any fun?
    135AnonymousAug 22, 2026 04:36
    137AnonymousAug 22, 2026 04:36
    Re: #135
    👊😳👊
    157AnonymousAug 22, 2026 05:46
    So glad I was born in Saitama Prefecture~
    https://cho-animedia.jp/imgs/zoom/790783.jpg
    160AnonymousAug 22, 2026 05:48
    Re: #157
    There's Akutan's friend in the top left, huh
    163AnonymousAug 22, 2026 05:51
    TSUNAMI – Finana Ryugu (Original MV)
    https://youtu.be/3i_TLQsaAgU https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3i_TLQsaAgU/maxresdefault.jpg
    166AnonymousAug 22, 2026 05:55
    Re: #163
    That's not the Southern All Stars one
    178AnonymousAug 22, 2026 06:04
    227AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:00
    Another day today, huh~?
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8XB-zPVgAI0KWW.jpg
    229AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:03
    Re: #227
    Shut up, trash — quit forcing that "nnasshoi" catchphrase on everyone
    265AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:50
    Get to work! 🙄

    270AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:51
    Re: #265
    What's even fun about playing HoYoverse games?
    389AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:27
    Wanna watch this?

    391AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:29
    Re: #389
    Only know SOSHI
    400AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:36
    407AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:39
    Tell me which Super Famicom (SNES) games are still fun to play today
    409AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:39
    Re: #407
    Sandra no Daibouken (The Great Adventure of Sandra)
    411AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:40
    Re: #407
    Super Metroid
    419AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:56
    Re: #407
    Can it even run Genshin Impact?
    432AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:02
    Good for you


    ↓
    440AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:04
    Re: #432
    Their eyes are dead lol
    531AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:22
    534AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:22
    Re: #531
    Dabupan-saaan 😭
    544AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:25
    Re: #531
    D-deabu-ponchi-haaan 😥 (a deliberately garbled spelling of the nickname above, for laughs)

    Background and Key Points

    The Super Famicom (Nintendo’s SNES, sold in Japan from November 1990 until production ended in 2003) built one of gaming’s deepest libraries, and both titles named in the thread sit at opposite ends of it. Super Metroid (1994) is a globally canonized classic, credited alongside Castlevania: Symphony of the Night with defining the “Metroidvania” genre and still cited on best-of-all-time lists worldwide. Sandra no Daibouken (“The Great Adventure of Sandra”), a 1992 Vic Tokai puzzle-platformer, is the opposite case: it never left Japan, has no official translation, and survives mainly as a retro-gaming in-joke passed around by longtime 5ch and Niconico users rather than something a casual fan would stumble on.

    The thread didn’t really split into camps arguing for or against either game — it produced exactly two answers before the topic moved on, so there’s no debate on record about which is “better” or how to define “still holds up.” What passes for tension is the contrast in taste itself: one poster reaching for an internationally beloved cult classic, another reaching for something so obscure it barely exists outside a niche of Japanese retro collectors.

    What’s easy to miss is that the question got derailed almost immediately by a joke asking whether the console “can even run Genshin Impact” — a gag about 16-bit hardware limitations, not a real answer. Readers expecting a substantive nostalgia thread should know this was one fleeting aside in a much longer, unrelated late-night ramble, not a dedicated retro-gaming discussion.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nanademo Jikkyo G) thread “Late-Night Funatan House (・o・🍬)🏡.”

  • Retired at 43 with ¥120 Million via FIRE — Now Battling Crushing Loneliness; 5ch Reacts: ‘Sounds Made Up’

    An article about Kenta Sato (pseudonym, 43), a former employee at a foreign-affiliated company who retired via FIRE with ¥120 million in assets and is now living a lonely life, became a hot topic on 5ch. The thread saw a string of comments questioning the article’s credibility, and it evolved into a discussion about semiconductor stocks after one investor confessed that a stock crash had shrunk their assets from ¥220 million down to ¥90 million.

    “This way, I can live out my whole life without ever having to bow my head to anyone.”

    Kenta Sato (pseudonym, 43) retired from a foreign-affiliated company in Tokyo. At the time, his assets totaled ¥120 million. It was a decision made in strict accordance with the “4% Rule” — investing his assets to earn a 4% annual return and using that income to cover a year’s living expenses.

    He’d projected annual investment returns of around ¥4 million, against annual living costs of roughly ¥3 million. His rented apartment ran ¥110,000 a month, groceries about ¥30,000 a month, and even factoring in utilities and phone/internet bills, he kept his total monthly spending under ¥250,000.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    22AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:36
    There sure are more and more of these 'venting fodder for the poor' articles lately, huh.
    23AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:37
    Re: #22
    What's weird is that nothing about it feels off when you read it normally.
    It's written unconvincingly enough that you couldn't be fooled even if you wanted to be.
    25AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:38
    Up until two months ago I had ¥220 million in assets.
    But thanks to the recent crash, I'm down to just ¥90 million now.
    Funny thing is, I'm still up compared to last year, but right now all I feel is despair.
    All I do is regret not still having that ¥220 million.
    Being scared to spend money — that's a real thing, I'm telling you.
    29AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:39
    Re: #25
    What kind of portfolio were you even running?
    Memory chips?
    34AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:46
    Re: #25
    Nice.
    Life's more fun when it's got that much drama, right?
    Not trying to troll you here.
    30AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:41
    Re: #29
    Kioxia.
    Data Section.
    SoftBank Group.
    Those are my main holdings.
    Still holding all of them now, too.
    To make room for them, I sold off trading-house stocks I swore I'd hold for life.
    That's part of what's killing me too.
    33AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:45
    Re: #30
    Sounds like you'll be back to ¥220 million within a year.
    I've been 80% NVIDIA for a few years now.
    Getting crushed on performance by you memory-chip guys though.
    36AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:48
    Re: #33
    NVIDIA's earnings this week are seriously stressing me out.
    Everything's been sliding lately, and 'announce a huge investment, then crash' has basically been the trend all summer.
    40AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:49
    Re: #36
    Yeah, it'll probably dip.
    But it'll hit new highs again in a couple months, so it's probably fine.
    37AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:49
    Having the money and being able to choose your own path from here already makes you happier than someone grinding away at a dead-end part-time job with nobody ever giving them credit for it.
    42AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:51
    Re: #37
    Even if it looks like happiness from the outside, if you feel unhappy, then it's unhappiness, isn't it.
    Even a dead-end part-timer wins if they feel happy.
    43AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:52
    FIRE assumes you'll keep managing your own investments, but can you actually do that competently once you're old? There are already plenty of people out there complaining they can't even set up a passkey.
    44AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:53
    Re: #43
    Once your brain stops working right, you can just switch to index funds and draw down a fixed amount each year.
    45AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:54
    Doesn't he use X (Twitter)? He could connect with people over shared hobbies there, separate from real life — he really should just get on X.
    46AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:55
    Re: #45
    Does he actually meet people in person, though?
    49AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:59
    Did they even really interview anyone for this? Am I the only one who thinks it's fiction?
    51AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:01
    Re: #49
    Guys like me who turned into minor stock-market nouveau riche are dying to brag about it, so finding someone to interview would be easy.
    50AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:01
    They're all saying semiconductors are done, never going up again.
    That's the reverse shoeshine-boy signal right there (the old theory that when even the shoeshine boy is giving stock tips, it's time to sell — inverted here, so universal pessimism means it's about to bottom out).
    Which is exactly why it's going to go up.
    However you slice it — future potential, profitability, staying power — if you're doing value investing, where else would you even put your money besides semiconductor stocks? That's how I see it.
    Unlike the AI bubble, they're not overpriced at all.
    But my mental state can barely handle this recent drop.
    53AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:02
    Re: #50
    Same here.
    Hold, hold, and hold some more.
    61AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:08
    Re: #50
    Long term, semiconductors can only go up.
    If it's a spot holding, just hold and forget about it.
    62AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:10
    Re: #50
    Going forward,
    there's no version of society that doesn't run on semiconductors.
    Demand is never going away.
    It'll just keep cycling up and down,
    so hold through the dips.
    And yeah, 'where else would you even invest' — I think that's exactly right.
    54AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:02
    Re: #51
    Straight-up bragging just comes off as obnoxious, so it's not winning you any fans lol
    55AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:04
    Re: #54
    It's a humblebrag, plain and simple. That's all this is.
    56AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:05
    Not having stable income is stressful either way, though. Maybe once you blow past ¥300 or ¥500 million it stops mattering.
    60AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:07
    Re: #56
    End goal is ¥10 million a year in dividend income.
    64AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:18
    If you've got ¥100 million, you shouldn't need to pinch pennies that hard to get by.
    68AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:21
    Re: #64
    At that point it's basically growing on autopilot.
    71AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:25
    Even with zero real-life social life, you can get all the communication you need just by clowning around on nanJ (a rowdy 5ch discussion board).
    72AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:26
    Re: #71
    That's probably why this generation won't be wandering the streets looking for someone to talk to as much once they're old, unlike now.
    82AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:38
    That's fine by me, honestly, people are a hassle. Though… would you actually lose your mind if you ended up like the guy in this story (if it's even real)?
    87AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:48
    Re: #82
    There's this theory that FIRE drives you crazy with loneliness, but isn't it the same with regular retirement? Feels like it's just happening a bit earlier, that's all.
    90AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:50
    You guys are literally talking to people right now on 5ch. The guy in this story is probably someone who doesn't even have that.
    92AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:52
    Re: #90
    Which raises the question of what happens once you actually hit retirement age. Doesn't that mean this guy's fate is to eventually lose it too?
    98AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:56
    There's a ton of articles like this. Must be huge demand for them — or really, people are probably just opening them to kill time at the office.
    100AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:58
    Re: #98
    Anyone reading stuff like this isn't gonna end up happy.
    101AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:58
    Re: #98
    It's probably comfort content for people at the bottom who'll never manage to FIRE.
    103AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:59
    Re: #98
    Not really any different from a gambling article, at its core.
    106AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:02
    Lately there are a lot of articles pushing the 'FIRE is a bad idea' angle.
    107AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:03
    Re: #106
    The articles themselves trickle out to match demand, but is it the same guy bringing them to nanJ every time, I wonder?
    109AnonymousAug 22, 2026 10:04
    Re: #106
    Which just proves FIRE is the right call.

    Background and Key Points

    The FIRE movement’s “4% Rule” comes from the 1990s Trinity Study, which tested how long a US stock/bond portfolio could sustain 4% annual withdrawals; it was never designed around Japan’s tax code or its decades of near-zero interest rates, so importing it wholesale is riskier than the thread lets on. In Japan, realized capital gains and dividends are taxed at a flat 20.315%, meaning Sato’s stated ¥4 million target return would need to be noticeably higher before tax to net ¥3 million in living expenses — a detail the article and thread both skip. Also unmentioned is NISA, Japan’s tax-exempt investment account explicitly designed for long-term individual investors; any serious FIRE planning discussion in Japan would normally center on maximizing NISA space, yet nobody in the thread brings it up.

    The thread didn’t really argue about loneliness at all — commenters largely accepted or shrugged off that premise (some even noted regular retirees face the same isolation, just later). What it actually split on was authenticity: whether “Kenta Sato” is a real interview subject or a fabricated “content for envious have-nots” piece, a genre posters say is proliferating on Yahoo News. From there the thread abandoned the original topic entirely, turning into a confessional/bragging session about semiconductor holdings (Kioxia, SoftBank, memory chips, Nvidia), with genuine anxiety over recent price crashes eroding paper fortunes far larger than Sato’s ¥120 million.

    Readers should also note nanJ is a rowdy, jokey subforum of 5ch, so the skepticism and bragging tone reflect that culture as much as the topic itself.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (nanJ) thread “[Tragic] 43-Year-Old Single Man Who FIRE’d With ¥120 Million Loses His Mind From Overwhelming Loneliness, Not Talking to a Soul…”.

  • JAF Car Stopped at Railroad Crossing Sparks Feud with Tailgater — 5ch Debates Who’s Really at Fault

    A dispute between a JAF (Japan Automobile Federation) staffer’s car, which had stopped short of a railroad crossing, and the car behind it — which allegedly closed the gap and tried to force its way past — has become a hot topic on 5ch. Police say they found no evidence of tailgating, but some posters argue the front car pulled forward just as the crossing gates were coming down, splitting opinion over which driver bears the greater fault. The debate has since spread to who would ultimately be on the hook for damages owed to the railway company.

    1AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:14
    You don't get to enter the crossing just because the car in front of you stopped, come on.
    14AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:21
    There was plenty of road width to swing into the oncoming lane and just pass him — that's all it would've taken.
    Sounds more like he got pissed off at being stopped and decided to get out of his car and make a scene.
    24AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:31
    Re: #14
    Is there an actual source for that?
    Or is that just your personal take?
    17AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:24
    Was he even being tailgated for real?
    Or is he just being paranoid?
    19AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:27
    Re: #17
    Even if he was, entering a railroad crossing while the car ahead is stopped is the abnormal move here.
    23AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:31
    "Stop right after clearing the crossing — maybe I can trap him in there"
    ↑
    Thinking about this calmly, this is way too messed up…
    Doesn't sound like a sane state of mind to be in.
    28AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:34
    Re: #23
    Guess he never imagined the guy behind him could be that stupid.
    36AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:39
    👮 "We found no evidence of the tailgating the JAF guy is claiming."
    👮 "After reviewing the dashcam footage, the car pulled forward right as the crossing gate finished coming down, so we're treating this as attempted murder."

    And there's your answer.
    40AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:41
    Re: #36
    Thanks, officer.
    38AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:40
    The police's ruling doesn't even matter
    The real question is liability for damages to the railway company
    and that share falls on whoever drove into the crossing knowing full well they'd collide with the train.
    55AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:45
    Re: #38
    >that share falls on whoever drove into the crossing knowing full well they'd collide with the train

    Wow, what beautiful Japanese (mocking how garbled/awkward that sentence reads).
    96AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:21
    Re: #38
    Wonder how this one's gonna shake out
    Watching this closely since it could set precedent for fault ratios in cases where you crash while swerving around an illegally parked car.
    47AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:43
    Well, tailgating him all the way up to the crossing itself pretty much proves he was tailgating, right?
    If you're driving normally, you don't enter a crossing when there's no room ahead of you.
    67AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:54
    Re: #47
    Tailgating aside, riding someone's bumper into a railroad crossing isn't something a normal driver does.
    51AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:43
    Isn't the guy who barrels in the one at fault here, when the car ahead might've simply broken down and stopped like normal?
    57AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:46
    Re: #51
    If it's just a breakdown, you can steer around it or deal with it somehow, you know
    Maybe not you, though.
    60AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:47
    Now that the police have ruled out tailgating, the JAF guy's story is falling apart

    You guys lost.
    62AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:50
    Re: #60
    Who exactly are you even arguing with at this point?
    63AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:51
    https://jaf.or.jp/common/kuruma-qa/category-trouble/subcategory-support/faq287
    [Q] What should I do if I'm the victim of tailgating ("aori unten")?
    [A] Take refuge somewhere that seems safe and has plenty of witnesses around, like a parking lot.

    JAF's own Q&A page says this, and yet a veteran staffer went and pulled a stunt this far out of line…
    65AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:52
    Re: #63
    He probably wanted the train passengers to witness it.
    66AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:53
    Front car gets indicted for attempted murder
    Rear car gets their license revoked for obstructive driving

    Yeah, this is how it ends.
    82AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:10
    Re: #66
    Guess judgment's coming down on both of them.
    78AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:04
    JAF's guy being in the wrong, sure, fair enough — but the tailgater who wouldn't keep a safe following distance playing the victim? Can't accept that.
    83AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:11
    Re: #78
    Feels like we haven't actually heard much from the "victim's" side — did he actually play the victim card?
    128AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:34
    Re: #78
    Tailgating still hasn't even been confirmed, you know.
    93AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:18
    Under the Road Traffic Act, you're not allowed to enter a railroad crossing unless you can confirm it's safe to get all the way through

    100% on the car behind.
    98AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:22
    Re: #93
    >100% on the car behind

    What is??? (huh, come again???)
    103AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:23
    Re: #93
    Going by traffic law alone, sure, but since he deliberately parked himself inside the crossing and held things up, both of them are getting dinged for this.
    105AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:24
    Re: #93
    The JAF staffer also broke the rule against stopping within 10 meters of a crossing — don't just conveniently ignore that.
    107AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:24
    Re: #103
    Front car: attempted murder charge
    But damages owed to the railway: 100% on the rear car.
    112AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:26
    Re: #107
    Yeah, that's probably how the damages side shakes out.
    116AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:28
    Re: #107
    Hope it goes that way.
    114AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:27
    Man, people on this board are genuinely scary
    The damages claim would land on the front car too, you know.
    117AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:29
    Re: #114
    People arguing from pure emotion with zero knowledge of the law or the rules are the scary ones.
    123AnonymousAug 22, 2026 09:32
    Re: #114
    Doesn't seem like there's solid enough grounds to state that so confidently
    If anything, there's actual grounds for the "victim" to be billed for damages instead
    though the railway company probably won't bother going after them.

    Background and Key Points

    Police found no tailgating evidence, so the JAF driver’s claim rests on the dashcam timing near the crossing gates. The thread is really wrestling with a specific legal question, and the background matters for a non-Japanese reader.

    Police cannot cite drivers for tailgating (“aori unten,” codified under Japan’s 2020 anti-tailgating amendment to the Road Traffic Act) without corroborating evidence, and here they say the dashcam shows none — undercutting the JAF employee’s account rather than vindicating the driver behind him. Separately, Japan’s Road Traffic Act flatly bars entering a railroad crossing (fumikiri) unless a driver can confirm they can clear it entirely before the gates close; violating that carries its own penalty independent of who was at fault for the initial stop. JAF itself, in its own consumer-facing guidance on tailgating victims, tells drivers to flee to a safe, witnessed location like a parking lot rather than stop somewhere as exposed as a crossing — a detail posters flagged as ironic given a JAF staffer’s own alleged conduct here.

    What the thread actually splits on is not whether the rear driver behaved badly, but whether liability for property damage owed to the railway company would track criminal fault at all. Several posters argue the front car could face attempted-murder-level scrutiny for deliberately trapping someone, while the rear car could still bear most or all of the railway compensation simply because entering an unclear crossing is a strict per-se violation. That gap — criminal culpability sitting with one driver while civil/damages liability sits with the other — is the crux, and it’s genuinely unsettled precedent, not something 5ch can resolve.

    What outsiders likely miss: nothing here has been adjudicated. “No evidence of tailgating” is a police statement about an ongoing matter, not a court ruling, and Japanese railway operators routinely pursue full compensation from whoever entered the crossing regardless of provocation.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “Who’s really at fault — the JAF staffer who stopped at the crossing, or the “victim” who closed the gap behind him?“.

  • Crying Babies Spark Fierce Debate Among NanJ Users: ‘5ch: Crying Is a Baby’s Job — It’s the Parents Who Won’t Comfort Them That Piss Us Off’

    The debate kicked off with a claim from users of “NanJ” (a 5ch discussion board) that while a baby crying on the train is unavoidable, it’s the parents who fail to comfort them who are in the wrong.

    Single and married users clashed over whether parents should keep apologizing until the baby stops crying, and whether using a stroller on a packed train is acceptable — the discussion eventually widened into a broader debate over whether the minority should simply have to put up with it.

    1AnonymousAug 20, 2026 07:17
    You see this on NanJ and other social media too — it's such a dumb, gross mindset. They actually seem to think babies can just stop crying on command.
    8AnonymousAug 20, 2026 07:22
    A NanJ user who's never actually done childcare: "Childless singles have NO idea how hard babies are!" Oooh, look at meee, defending all the moms of the world, so coool~ (mocking, sing-song delivery)
    ↑ Sounds like he dumps all the actual childcare on his wife.
    16AnonymousAug 20, 2026 07:30
    Re: #8
    Huh?? What are you even basing that on?
    12AnonymousAug 20, 2026 07:24
    Got drunk enough to yell "SHUT UP!!" at the crying baby — the baby, the other passengers, and even I went dead silent.
    38AnonymousAug 20, 2026 07:41
    Re: #12
    Sounds like the type to be day-drinking and wandering around town.
    15AnonymousAug 20, 2026 07:30
    Not "make it stop crying" — just don't bring the baby out, drive instead.
    21AnonymousAug 20, 2026 07:31
    Re: #15
    If you can't handle hearing a baby cry, YOU'RE the one who should drive instead.
    19AnonymousAug 20, 2026 07:30
    I'm just saying show at least SOME effort to try and deal with it. Huh? Come on now.
    22AnonymousAug 20, 2026 07:32
    Re: #19
    So if it cries for an hour, you keep doing that for a whole hour???
    30AnonymousAug 20, 2026 07:34
    Re: #22
    Of course. Why should I have to feel uncomfortable because someone else's kid is screaming? Did I choose to have that baby?
    31AnonymousAug 20, 2026 07:35
    Re: #22
    A baby crying nonstop for a whole hour isn't normal. If that's really happening, something more serious needs to be dealt with.
    37AnonymousAug 20, 2026 07:41
    Re: #31
    Sometimes it cries even after you've dealt with it. Sometimes "dealing with it" just means waiting it out. And sometimes babies cry for over an hour for no reason at all.

    Is that some kind of illness?
    35AnonymousAug 20, 2026 07:39
    I don't even ride packed trains, I'm not some bottom-tier loser… that's lower than a country bumpkin.
    40AnonymousAug 20, 2026 07:42
    Re: #35
    Re: #35
    There are cases besides packed trains too, you know.
    39AnonymousAug 20, 2026 07:42
    Crying is a baby's job, so that's fine. What pisses me off is when the parents don't even try to comfort them. Take proper care of your kid.
    41AnonymousAug 20, 2026 07:43
    Re: #39
    Thinking that if you just keep comforting a baby it's guaranteed to stop crying is exactly the mindset of someone whose whole idea of "raising" something comes from video games.
    44AnonymousAug 20, 2026 07:46
    Babies are one thing, but a loud kid acting up is on the parents.
    45AnonymousAug 20, 2026 07:50
    Re: #44
    There are all kinds of kids out there.
    46AnonymousAug 20, 2026 07:50
    I've been seeing a lot of married-guy threads lately. Nice to see NanJ's married population steadily growing.
    50AnonymousAug 20, 2026 07:59
    Re: #46
    Even for a single, low-status guy, if you want to attack someone using "justice" as your weapon, silence is the perfect tool.

    Because "doing nothing" becomes righteous.

    It's honestly bizarre that internet users are okay with that.

    Isn't it about time that changed?
    48AnonymousAug 20, 2026 07:54
    I'm a married dad myself, but even so, parents who don't even look sorry about it genuinely piss me off.
    55AnonymousAug 20, 2026 08:11
    Re: #48
    I feel like that doesn't match reality.

    Right when the baby starts crying, they usually do the whole (oh, so sorry — *bow*) thing, right?
    If you happen to miss that moment, does it count as "not looking sorry"?
    That's ridiculous.

    Or is the correct answer to keep a solemn face and chant "Sorry! Sorry! Sorry! Sorry! Sorry! Sorry! Sorry! Sorry! Sorry! Sorry!" nonstop until the baby stops crying?
    49AnonymousAug 20, 2026 07:56
    Honestly, people are annoyed at the baby itself, but since criticizing a baby makes YOU the bad guy, they just dodge it by blaming the parents instead.
    56AnonymousAug 20, 2026 08:11
    Re: #49
    That's just you reading too much into it because you're the "politically correct" type who treats even a baby as an independent "individual."
    In my view, a kid throwing a tantrum and screaming isn't really its own "individual" — it's more like "property under the parent's management."
    So what actually pisses me off is directly the parent's lack of management.

    You're free to think whatever you want, but don't just make up assumptions and lob criticism that misses the point.
    73AnonymousAug 20, 2026 08:20
    Re: #49
    There are even some adults out there who can't control their own emotions — there's no way anyone's actually mad at a newborn baby.
    52AnonymousAug 20, 2026 08:01
    Re: #47
    I'm hideously ugly, and it's not like I'm actively trying to bother anyone, but just my appearance alone can make people uncomfortable — so in real life I live with an apologetic attitude about it.
    In the same way, shouldn't the parents of a screaming kid carry that same apologetic attitude, even if the crying itself isn't really their fault?
    82AnonymousAug 20, 2026 08:27
    Re: #52
    No, the parents ARE responsible — they're the ones who chose to have the baby and chose to bring it on the train.
    That said, I get wanting them to show an apologetic attitude.
    Just try not to pile on the criticism too much, alright.
    54AnonymousAug 20, 2026 08:08
    You're inconveniencing the people around you, so the least you can do is act apologetic about it.
    62AnonymousAug 20, 2026 08:13
    Re: #54
    "Act apologetic" — what does that even mean?
    A single "oh, sooorry" face and a little bow — that's enough, right?
    Pretty much everyone does at least that much.
    So either you missed the "sorry," or they did it and you still didn't forgive them, or you're just imagining some strawman parent who doesn't exist.
    58AnonymousAug 20, 2026 08:12
    Re: #55
    I'm not saying chant "sorry" nonstop, but at least keep an apologetic look on your face until the crying stops.
    Too many parents these days do a little apologetic bow the second the crying starts, then go dead-faced a few seconds later and start scrolling their phone.
    That genuinely pisses people off.
    63AnonymousAug 20, 2026 08:14
    Sorry, but could single men just stop riding packed trains? Stroller users are struggling because of you. Take a Luup (rental e-scooter) or your own car to work instead.
    69AnonymousAug 20, 2026 08:18
    Re: #64
    That used to be normal, back in the day.
    From where I stand, your modern sensibility is the weird one.
    This is just a difference in values, so arguing over who's "right" is pointless, and I'll leave it there — but remember, nobody's proven your sense of things is correct either.
    The world doesn't revolve around me, but it doesn't revolve around you either.
    Don't get the wrong idea.
    83AnonymousAug 20, 2026 08:27
    Re: #69
    "That used to be normal," you say —
    I was born in the Heisei era so I have no way of knowing the vibe of the Showa era, but I don't think that was true even in Heisei.

    Well, no use arguing about that now.
    The correct answer to "who does the world revolve around" is "no one" — that IS the correct answer.
    Given that, if the whole issue could be solved by a few adults just putting up with it, I don't think we should be piling more burden onto people already struggling through parenting.

    Also, if we're going to pretend the world has to revolve around someone, I'd say it should be "the children."
    88AnonymousAug 20, 2026 08:30
    Re: #83
    If the logic is "the minority should put up with it," then it's the PARENTS who'd have to put up with it — they're the minority.
    92AnonymousAug 20, 2026 08:31
    Re: #83
    If "the minority should put up with it" is the rule, then these days parents are the minority, so "parents just bow and grin and bear it" settles the matter, right? Though that whole "the minority should put up with a bit" philosophy is really just your own personal value judgment anyway.

    Background and Key Points

    Japan’s rail commute is uniquely unforgiving for this fight: greater Tokyo trains routinely run at 120–200% capacity, and unlike quiet cars elsewhere, ordinary carriages have no designated stroller or family space — riders are packed shoulder to shoulder for 30–60 minutes. That crowding collides with a demographic crisis: Japan’s births fell below 730,000 in 2023, the lowest on record, so “is society hostile to parents on trains” is not an abstract manners question here but tied to national anxiety about a shrinking population. It’s also why railway operators (Tokyo Metro, JR East) have run explicit poster campaigns asking passengers to tolerate strollers, which is the backdrop several posters are implicitly arguing against or for.

    The thread doesn’t actually split on whether crying itself is acceptable — nearly everyone concedes a baby can’t be commanded to stop. The real fault line is over the *sumimasen* performance: how long and how visibly a parent must keep displaying apologetic body language (repeated bowing, a fixed contrite face) versus doing one bow and then disengaging (checking a phone). That’s a distinctly Japanese social-contract dispute about sustained tatemae, not a Western-style “kids don’t belong in public” argument.

    What outside readers will likely miss is that this isn’t really about babies at all — it’s a proxy fight over who counts as the burdened “minority” on a crowded train, singles or parents, refracted through Japan’s low-birthrate panic. Also never raised in the thread: nothing about colic, postpartum stress, or the maternity/pregnancy badge system (mataniti maaku) some parents use to signal need for consideration.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nanademo Jikkyo G) thread “Single NanJ guy: ‘Crying babies are fine, but parents who don’t stop them are NOT! (That’s a valid argument!)’ ← lol this guy“.