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  • Comedian Hiroshi Explains Why He Won’t Sue the Camping Gear Maker: “What’s the Point of Spending a Fortune to Win in Court?”

    Outdoor-comedian Hiroshi, embroiled in a dispute with camping gear maker Show’s, has said he won’t pursue legal action, explaining: “I do have a retainer lawyer, but what’s the point of spending hundreds of thousands of yen just to win a court case?” While the company has signaled it’s fine with both releasing their LINE chat logs publicly and being sued, Hiroshi has stayed silent — and word has also spread that a past collaboration deal fell through after Hiroshi demanded “all rights go to me.” On 5ch, users have been debating whether his response is the right call.

    Trouble Erupts Over Hiroshi’s Fire Pit: The Disputed Product Photos, His Agency’s “Current Situation” Statement, and the Unsettling Deletion of a 10-Year-Old Video

    While plenty of voices on social media say this should be settled through legal channels, Hiroshi had this to say:

    “Sure, I could go get the design patented, but there’s already bad blood over this. I just don’t want anything more to do with it.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    12AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:15
    Hiroshi: "The whole exchange is still saved on LINE, you know. I'd like people to judge for themselves whether I'm the one in the wrong."

    Show's (the company): "Go ahead and post the LINE logs, we're fine with that."

    Hiroshi: "…" — dead silence, ghosts the thread
    109AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:03
    Re: #12
    I like Hiroshi, but man, this is seriously uncool.
    14AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:17
    LMAO his funnels are busted — they never even zipped around at all ("funnels" = the remote-control drone weapons from Gundam, used here as a joke metaphor)
    17AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:19
    Re: #14
    The other side was just one step ahead of him. No way you're launching those funnels now.
    23AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:23
    Re: #14
    Turns out the funnels were smarter than the pilot.
    26AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:24
    Hiroshi: "Go! Funnels, attack!"
    Funnels: "…"

    This is genuinely sad…
    27AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:25
    Re: #26
    Sounds like the ID marker on-screen is turning from green to red (Gundam-speak for the funnels switching from friendly to hostile).
    28AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:27
    The other side says it's fine to release the LINE logs, but he won't release them.
    The other side says it's fine to be sued, but he won't sue.
    With the company saying all this, what exactly can Hiroshi even do at this point?
    30AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:29
    Re: #28
    Because all a comedian can do is make people smile.
    32AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:31
    Re: #28
    Honestly, all Hiroshi can do now is team up with some other big camping brand, slap his face all over it, and push out a similar product as his "official endorsement." Since the company's already said his idea "wasn't anything special," they can hardly call a Hiroshi-branded product a knockoff.
    39AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:34
    Re: #32
    What manufacturer is going to draft the blueprints, order the parts, and get it produced through a supplier — only for all the rights to end up belonging to Hiroshi?
    44AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:37
    Re: #39
    As long as it turns a profit, a company will do it — that's just business. And right now it's actually generating buzz, so it wouldn't be strange at all for someone who can pull it off to jump in.
    51AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:40
    Re: #44
    But under Hiroshi's terms, the manufacturer isn't even allowed to sell it themselves — how are they supposed to turn a profit?
    57AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:43
    Re: #44
    If they hand over all the rights and can't even sell collabs or other variants, how exactly does anyone make money off this? 😅
    41AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:35
    So what should Hiroshi have done instead?
    43AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:36
    Re: #41
    He just should've thought of it as making money together with the manufacturer.
    46AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:38
    Re: #41
    He just shouldn't have stirred up buzz on his own and blown himself up with it.
    42AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:35
    Re: #32
    Not happening. Show's is a brand every camping enthusiast knows — just owning their gear is aspirational. They're at every camping fair without fail, and in the industry they carry way more clout than Hiroshi ever could. If he burns this bridge, other manufacturers will just see him as "difficult to work with" and stop offering him deals. There are tons of camping comedians out there — they'll just offer the deal to Ogiyahagi (a well-known comedy duo) instead.
    47AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:38
    Re: #42
    Guess the camping industry really is a small world.
    66AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:45
    Re: #42
    So he's done as a "camping comedian," huh. He seriously underestimated the manufacturer.
    50AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:40
    Like counts:

    Hiroshi


    Show's
    69AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:45
    Re: #57
    Figuring that out is exactly what a "business owner" is for.
    83AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:50
    Re: #80
    So how does that turn a profit, then? I'll admit, I'm intrigued by Re: #69's argument too.
    93AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:54
    Re: #69
    Why force yourself to make it work? Normally you'd just judge it's not profitable and pass on it.
    80AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:48
    Re: #72
    Forgotten already? My whole point was "you shouldn't share your idea in public."
    87AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:51
    Re: #80
    If you don't have your own production line, pitching the idea is your only option. What actually matters is going through the proper contract process.
    89AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:52
    Hiroshi's being way too foolish here. This is a company that's already done fire-pit collabs with Laid-Back Camp (the popular camping anime). He could've just asked for a normal collab, but he got greedy instead.
    96AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:56
    Re: #89
    I wonder if there was no contract for the Laid-Back Camp collab either. He did say he's never written a contract before.
    99AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:58
    Re: #96
    Maybe the Laid-Back Camp side handled the contract? They're a big company after all.
    100AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:58
    Re: #96
    No way they've never drawn up a contract.
    101AnonymousAug 22, 2026 07:59
    Wasn't the manufacturer trying to use Hiroshi for free to sell their product too? I think that's pretty shameless as well.
    106AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:02
    Re: #101
    "It's a mutually beneficial relationship, so it's fine" — guess that logic doesn't fly here.
    111AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:04
    Re: #101
    They say they proposed a collab, so presumably they were planning to pay incentives. But according to the company, Hiroshi turned the collab down, demanding all the rights for himself and that the blueprints be handed over to him too.
    117AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:09
    The moment he lit this fire up on social media, it was clear he never really intended to resolve it.
    123AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:15
    Re: #117
    Fitting, given it's literally about a fire pit.
    124AnonymousAug 22, 2026 08:16
    Re: #117
    He probably figured launching the funnels would sort it out somehow. That's shockingly shallow thinking.

    Background and Key Points

    Show’s is a well-established Japanese outdoor-gear manufacturer with a track record of licensed collaborations, including a fire-pit tie-in with the hit anime Laid-Back Camp (Yuru Camp) — a signal of how seriously camping brands are taken within Japan’s post-pandemic “outdoor boom.” Hiroshi’s career category, “outdoor comedian” (アウトドア芸人), is itself a recognized niche in Japanese entertainment: comedians cultivate a hobbyist persona (fishing, camping, etc.) that manufacturers pay to attach to products for credibility with enthusiasts. That context matters here because it explains why a broken collaboration is treated as industry news rather than a private tiff — reputational standing with gear makers is Hiroshi’s actual business asset.

    The thread’s real fault line isn’t whether Hiroshi is right or wrong on the merits of the fire-pit design; it’s whether his refusal to sue or release the LINE logs, after the company said it would welcome either, is prudent restraint or a tacit confession. Posters arguing “of course you’d drop hundreds of thousands of yen only to prove a point” read it as ordinary cost-benefit thinking; others read Show’s public willingness to be sued as a confidence move that only makes Hiroshi’s silence look worse.

    What the thread never engages with is the actual economics of the “hand over all rights” demand: a manufacturer that transfers full IP to a talent it collaborated with typically loses the ability to sell the product itself, meaning there’d be no revenue stream to fund production in the first place. Readers unfamiliar with Japanese talent-collab norms might also assume a signed contract is standard for such deals — several posters note Hiroshi apparently never had one, which is not unusual for informal tarento tie-ins but leaves no paper trail to arbitrate the dispute.

    *This article is compiled as excerpts and a summary from the 5ch (Live News G) thread “Hiroshi Won’t Sue the Camping Gear Maker: “I Do Have a Retainer Lawyer, But What’s the Point of Spending Hundreds of Thousands to Win in Court…”“.

  • Places in Japan You’ve Got to Visit — 5ch Rates Them ‘Charm 5, Convenience 1’

    A thread on 5ch turned into users listing places in Japan they seriously think you should visit. Alongside classic tourist spots like Universal Studios Japan, the Tottori Sand Dunes, and Takachiho Gorge, some curveballs popped up too — the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant, the University of Tokyo, and JAXA — with posters cheerfully scoring each one on “charm” and “convenience” to keep the thread rolling.

    1AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:34
    Tell me
    6AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:37
    The Venus Line from Utsukushigahara to Lake Shirakaba
    12AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:41
    Re: #6
    Charm: 1
    Convenience: 1
    7AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:38
    Re: #2
    Re: #4
    Charm: 1
    Convenience: 1
    Out of the question
    8AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:39
    Re: #7
    What even is "convenience" supposed to mean here?
    69AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:59
    Re: #7
    Charm: 1
    Convenience: 1
    13AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:42
    Re: #8
    It means transit access
    15AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:43
    Re: #13
    Access from where???
    20AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:44
    Re: #15
    From the nearest station
    24AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:46
    Re: #20
    Whose nearest station?
    Nearest to what?
    14AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:43
    USJ 🇺🇸🤗
    18AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:44
    Re: #14
    Charm: 5
    Convenience: 5
    One train ride from downtown Osaka — transit access is top notch
    22AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:45
    Re: #18
    What about Tsutenkaku Tower? 🥺
    21AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:45
    Tottori Sand Dunes

    Photos and videos never really do it justice, but up close it's basically a wall
    Seriously, a wall
    26AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:46
    Re: #21
    Charm: 5
    Convenience: 3
    Love the sense of open space
    25AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:46
    Takachiho Gorge
    The site of the heavenly grandson's descent (a key Shinto myth)
    If you're Japanese, you should at least see the place where Japan began
    27AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:47
    Re: #25
    Now I want some somen noodles
    34AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:49
    Re: #25
    Charm: 5
    Convenience: 2
    The waterfall has a mystical kind of beauty
    51AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:56
    Re: #25
    Guess that makes you a traitor to the nation, huh?
    36AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:50
    Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant
    Rokkasho Reprocessing Plant
    Ningyo-toge
    The former Monju site
    JAERI (Japan Atomic Energy Research Institute)
    The Atomic Bomb Museum
    105AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:10
    Re: #36
    Charm: 5
    Convenience: 3
    You can really feel nature there
    44AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:54
    Kinome Pass
    The scenery still looks like it's straight out of the Sengoku era
    52AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:56
    Re: #44
    Charm: 5
    Convenience: 2
    54AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:56
    Low convenience means there's real satisfaction when you finally arrive
    Sure, some spots turn out to be letdowns
    Anyway — with that in mind: the summit of Mt. Fuji
    67AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:59
    Re: #53
    Re: #54
    Charm: 1
    Convenience: 1
    72AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:00
    The Tateyama Kurobe Alpine Route and Okurayama Ski Jump Stadium actually moved me a little
    78AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:03
    Re: #72
    The Toyama side of Tateyama Kurobe
    Charm: 5
    Convenience: 2

    Everywhere else
    Charm: 1
    Convenience: 1
    77AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:02
    Mount Osore
    Izumo Taisha
    Okinawa
    Hokkaido
    81AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:03
    Re: #77
    Charm: 6
    Convenience: 12
    83AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:04
    Re: #77
    Izumo Taisha
    Charm: 5
    Convenience: 3
    91AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:06
    Re: #77
    Charm: 5
    Convenience: 2
    80AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:03
    ID:5HcNZiuY0 — seriously, what is up with this guy…
    88AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:05
    Re: #80
    Charm: 5
    Convenience: 3
    You can really feel nature there
    89AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:05
    Re: #80
    Classic case of the real deal not realizing it's the real deal
    85AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:04
    Re: #83
    Charm: 2
    Convenience: 6
    87AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:05
    Re: #85
    Charm is a 5
    90AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:05
    Re: #87
    Charm: 5
    Convenience: 5
    One train ride from downtown Osaka — transit access is top notch
    93AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:06
    Re: #90
    Come on, there's no way you get there from Osaka in one train
    101AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:08
    The University of Tokyo
    Kyoto University
    RIKEN
    AIST (National Institute of Advanced Industrial Science and Technology)
    JAXA (Sagamihara)
    104AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:09
    Re: #101
    Charm: 6
    Convenience: 18

    Background and Key Points

    Places in Japan You’ve Got to Visit — 5ch Rates Them ‘Charm 5, Convenience 1’

    Several entries in this thread lean on specifics that need unpacking for non-Japanese readers. Takachiho Gorge in Miyazaki is tied to the Amaterasu myth cycle — specifically the “descent of the heavenly grandson” (tenson kōrin), the founding legend in which the sun goddess’s grandson Ninigi comes down to earth, making the site a kind of mythological ground zero for the imperial lineage story, which is why one poster jokingly calls skipping it “treason.” The “atomic energy tour” list (Fukushima Daiichi, the Rokkasho reprocessing plant in Aomori, Ningyo-toge uranium mine, the decommissioned Monju fast-breeder reactor, JAERI, and the Nagasaki/Hiroshima Atomic Bomb Museums) strings together Japan’s entire nuclear-power and nuclear-history footprint, from prewar research to the 2011 Fukushima meltdown, as a single dark-tourism itinerary. The research-institute list (University of Tokyo, Kyoto University, RIKEN, AIST, JAXA’s Sagamihara campus) nods to Japan’s actual scientific establishment rather than tourist infrastructure.

    The thread doesn’t really argue over which places are best — it splits over what “convenience” (benri) even means as a rating axis. Posters can’t agree whether it should measure transit access, proximity to a station, or something else entirely, and the joke escalates until people are assigning nonsensical scores like “convenience: 18” to make the point that the metric has broken down.

    What’s easy to miss: several of these “curveball” spots — Fukushima Daiichi and the Monju site especially — aren’t open for casual sightseeing; access is restricted or requires special arrangement, so the ratings are more thought experiment than travel advice.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “Places in Japan You Should Seriously Go To”.

  • Tsubaki Factory’s Nishimura Itsuki Sparks Buzz by Instantly Answering ‘Who Cares’ to Fan Question

    Tsubaki Factory idol Nishimura Itsuki became a hot topic on the thread after instantly answering the question “What zodiac sign would you like to be?” with “Actually I’m a Scorpio” and then “Who cares.” Her deadpan dismissal of a question from a fan of the Saint Seiya generation went over well, and “who cares” ended up being used like a catchphrase for the rest of the thread.

    Thread participants found her cold response amusing, while some also compared it to how other group members typically handle similar questions.

    1AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:51
    ・Fan Mail Q&A Corner
    ① Is there a zodiac sign you'd like to be? I admired Sagittarius after seeing a hero based on the zodiac signs.
    Tanimoto: Actually, I'm a Scorpio
    2AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:51
    There's no need to seriously answer some nonsensical question like "which zodiac sign do you admire?" from an old geezer stuck in the Saint Seiya generation
    10AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:55
    Wait, Saint Seiya was based on the zodiac signs?
    Had no idea, thanks Itsuki
    69AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:17
    Re: #10 Cancer and Pisces were the unpopular ones.
    Taurus wasn't popular either, but it was still better off
    11AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:55
    That "who cares" bit was guaranteed to get a laugh
    She's got a great character
    13AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:56
    Saint Seiya is less about the zodiac and more based on Greek mythology
    14AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:57
    King's right on this one
    It's just way too trivial to care about
    15AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:57
    Old guy: "Because of Saint Seiya, man! Cancer got bullied, man!"
    Itsuking: "Who cares"
    17AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:58
    Impressive they could even come up with such a pointless question lol
    18AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:59
    This could turn into a whole tournament of pointless questions at this rate
    19AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:00
    I want a whole Q&A segment where Nishimura Itsuki answers everything with "who cares"
    20AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:00
    Seriously, what's the point of asking about something you can't change at this point anyway
    21AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:01
    Fan: "What color medal would you like?"
    Nishimura: "Bronze [dou] would do" (a pun — "dou" echoes her catchphrase "dou demo ii," meaning "who cares")
    23AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:02
    I've never seen anyone in real life who actually cares about zodiac signs
    Meaning she saw right through it as a question nobody's genuinely interested in
    24AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:03
    From her senpai's point of view, she's probably unbearably cute
    29AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:15
    Is King not really the girly type?
    30AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:15
    Even the Morning Musume girls get some wild ones thrown at them, so answering seriously just kills the fun
    The day someone answered "favorite shape of the moon" with zero pushback, I thought I'd been transported to another dimension
    31AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:17
    "What zodiac sign would I want to be? Hmm, I dunno…" — instead of that,
    Who cares lol
    Gives me chills lol
    33AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:17
    King: "Zodiac sign…? How dull… who cares…"
    34AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:18
    Feels like she'd call Tsubaki Factory's own activities "who cares" too lol
    If she only got chatty when the topic was "Byo" (a nickname; referent unclear), I might actually fall for her
    37AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:23
    Bring this to her birthday event — a segment where she instantly fires off answers to 100 fan questions in a row
    39AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:26
    "Who cares" is probably the best possible answer to the zodiac question, even for an idol
    40AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:26
    Normal people genuinely
    couldn't care less about any zodiac sign except their own lol
    43AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:29
    King seems like she wouldn't care about MBTI either
    44AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:29
    Aside from the zodiac one, these are questions she should really answer properly
    Is she just not motivated, or not cut out for this?
    45AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:30
    There's always some stock answer ready for these things,
    and "either way's fine" on the guys-with-beards question is, in a way, the ideal answer
    46AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:31
    Re: #1
    So Nishimura's just cold across the board, huh
    Is that specifically an act for Tsubaki (Factory)?
    47AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:31
    Since "who cares" about the zodiac got a laugh, she started deliberately going back to "who cares" after that too
    Sharp kid, that one
    106AnonymousAug 22, 2026 01:28
    Re: #47
    She'd be ready to go on Young Town — or variety shows in general — right out of the gate
    62AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:57


    101AnonymousAug 22, 2026 00:01
    She probably really hates whichever show writer keeps picking such boring fan mail to read out
    108AnonymousAug 22, 2026 01:33
    Re: #101
    That psychology-quiz guy's questions are seriously boring
    And yet he calls his own and other people's mail "trash" — unforgivable

    Background and Key Points

    Tsubaki Factory is one of the subgroups under Hello! Project, the idol management umbrella behind Morning Musume and its sister acts; it debuted in 2015 and, like other H!P units, runs regular “fan mail” segments at live events and on radio/blog content where audience-submitted questions are read aloud and answered on the spot. Nishimura Itsuki, referred to in the thread by her nickname “King” (from Itsuki → Itsuking), is a member of that group. The fan’s question invoked Saint Seiya (known abroad as Knights of the Zodiac), a hit 1986 manga/anime whose heroes are modeled on zodiac constellations; the show’s fanbase skews toward older male viewers, which is why posters flagged the question as coming from an “old geezer” rather than a typical young idol fan.

    The thread wasn’t really divided over whether her line was funny — nearly everyone found it a clean punchline. The actual disagreement was over what it says about her: some read “who cares” as spontaneous wit worth turning into a recurring bit, while others (post 44, 46) wondered whether her flatness reflects genuine disengagement or low motivation, and whether that coldness is a persona specific to Tsubaki Factory rather than just a joke.

    What outside readers may miss is the wordplay in post 21: her answer about wanting a bronze medal (“dou”) echoes “dou demo ii” (who cares), a pun no one in the thread bothered to spell out. Also unstated is that fan-mail segments like this are a long-running idol convention, so her curt answers land as a subversion of an expected, cheerfully earnest format.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “[Great News] Nishimura Itsuki Answers Fan’s Pointless Question with “Who Cares” wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.”

  • Central Tokyo Apartment Renting for ¥50,000/Month Sparks ‘They’ve Crossed a Line’ Reactions

    A photo of a bargain-basement apartment in central Tokyo — rent: just ¥50,000 a month — was posted to 5ch and blew up, with commenters declaring it had “crossed a line.”

    The thread didn’t stop at gawking over the unit’s tiny size and bare-bones amenities. It spiraled into arguments over what actually counts as the “city center” in Nagoya, Osaka, and other cities, plus comparisons of Japan’s dirt-cheap rents against the cost of living overseas.

    Image source URL

    Source: x.com / Original post here

    4AnonymousAug 18, 2026 20:54
    Wanting to live in Tokyo THAT badly, huh…
    81AnonymousAug 18, 2026 21:24
    Re: #4
    I wouldn't want to live in Nagoya even if it meant going that far
    12AnonymousAug 18, 2026 20:57
    Apparently some people just want to enjoy Tokyo for a limited stretch, like 3 years — probably works fine for those folks?
    13AnonymousAug 18, 2026 20:57
    Any sane person would rent this as a storage unit or a place to dump their stuff
    14AnonymousAug 18, 2026 20:59
    Kick in another ¥20,000 and you could rent a 50㎡ place in Matsudo instead
    15AnonymousAug 18, 2026 21:00
    Nagoya… city center…?
    17AnonymousAug 18, 2026 21:01
    Re: #15
    Yabacho is the city center if anywhere is
    18AnonymousAug 18, 2026 21:01
    Nagoya… a "to"? (the joke: "toshin" uses the kanji 都, the same "to" as in Tokyo-to)
    21AnonymousAug 18, 2026 21:02
    Re: #18
    Even in Osaka and Nagoya, people call downtown the "toshin" (city center) too
    22AnonymousAug 18, 2026 21:02
    Re: #17
    "Nagoya-to"? lol
    Don't tell me Nagoya's also throwing its hat in for that embarrassing "secondary capital" bid too, lol
    26AnonymousAug 18, 2026 21:04
    Re: #22
    Stop embarrassing yourself further
    23AnonymousAug 18, 2026 21:02
    Re: #20
    "Toshin" gets used for Fukuoka and Sapporo too
    31AnonymousAug 18, 2026 21:05
    Re: #23
    Those aren't capitals though, lol
    37AnonymousAug 18, 2026 21:06
    Re: #31
    The "to" in "toshin" isn't the "Tokyo-to" kind of "to" — it just means "capital/city," so as a word it can refer to the center of any city in general.
    As everyday usage: "Osaka toshin," "Nagoya toshin," "Fukuoka toshin" are all completely normal. Nobody blinks at this for any city on the scale of a government-designated city.
    As urban-planning jargon: "toshin/fuku-toshin" (city center/sub-center) serve as the translation for "CBD" (central business district), and regardless of a city's size, terms like "toshin-bu" and "toshin kyoten" show up in official city-planning master plans and location optimization plans.

    Sorry, you lose.
    24AnonymousAug 18, 2026 21:03
    Why are Japanese people so left behind by the rest of the world?
    27AnonymousAug 18, 2026 21:04
    In NYC even a studio rental bottoms out at $1,700 (¥250,000).
    Why do people think ¥50,000 gets you a livable room?
    33AnonymousAug 18, 2026 21:05
    Re: #27
    But that's also a ¥5,000-an-hour minimum wage place
    29AnonymousAug 18, 2026 21:04
    But Nagoya, when you actually go there, is pretty countrified — it's developed and all, but compared to Tokyo or Osaka it really feels provincial
    32AnonymousAug 18, 2026 21:05
    Japanese people — apparently their passport ownership rate is down to 17% now
    and they don't even travel abroad anymore
    and they probably don't even realize Japan's cost of living has dropped to developing-country levels (lol)
    38AnonymousAug 18, 2026 21:06
    Just to add some context:
    in other developed countries, lunch already runs $20-35 (¥3,000-5,000) as standard.
    In Japan it's still $6 (¥1,000), sometimes even $5 (¥800).
    Genuinely embarrassing how far behind the rest of the world we've fallen, lmao
    39AnonymousAug 18, 2026 21:07
    Guess if you want to live somewhere nice, you need to be ready to make some sacrifices
    42AnonymousAug 18, 2026 21:08
    5 minutes on foot from Shinjuku-sanchome Station, great location near a supermarket, and rent is ¥29,000??

    52AnonymousAug 18, 2026 21:11
    Re: #42
    This wouldn't even work as storage
    57AnonymousAug 18, 2026 21:12
    Re: #42
    What even is this…
    68AnonymousAug 18, 2026 21:16
    Re: #42
    That stain on the floor up front 😧
    43AnonymousAug 18, 2026 21:08
    Japan is cheap for everything, honestly.
    In countries where the cost of living is genuinely high,
    the streets are full of homeless people.
    Well, of course they are —
    rent is absurdly expensive, so the people at the bottom end up homeless or living out of their cars.
    It's just basic logic.
    83AnonymousAug 18, 2026 21:25
    >>ID:bx82U6WB0
    You wrote it yourself in Re: #43 and Re: #45 —
    better to help the people at the bottom than to widen the gap, that's what actually buys you more time
    72AnonymousAug 18, 2026 21:19
    Compared to spending your life in an internet cafe or a capsule hotel, isn't ¥50,000 for this in the city center actually cheap?
    If it's got a shower and toilet, I'd live there
    87AnonymousAug 18, 2026 21:26
    Re: #72
    Same take honestly.
    Well, only for my student years — the bath/toilet situation still bugs me though
    95AnonymousAug 18, 2026 21:29
    This price, this size, in Nagoya — and that's supposed to be the city center?
    98AnonymousAug 18, 2026 21:31
    Re: #95
    It's the city center, no doubt — it's got Parco, Matsuzakaya, Mitsukoshi, all right there
    96AnonymousAug 18, 2026 21:30
    Nagoya's inconvenient to live in — you have to go out to the suburbs just to find a supermarket
    100AnonymousAug 18, 2026 21:31
    Those old folks are the ones who get furious over even the tiniest price hikes —
    they're the ones yelling "don't raise prices, keep it as it is, for our sake."

    And you're gonna go along with that? lol
    The cheap-prices-for-everyone society those old folks want
    only works by squeezing labor costs down —
    meaning a society where working-age people keep grinding forever with no raises.
    No thanks, seriously lol
    105AnonymousAug 18, 2026 21:33
    Re: #100
    The policy's already shifted to holding the line on social security spending while letting inflation do the work, and that phase is over now, so calm down

    Background and Key Points

    Central Tokyo’s rents look like typos to anyone comparing them against global capitals, and that gap is the real subject here, even though the thread mostly gawks at photos.

    Background: Tokyo’s 23 wards have a huge stock of aging, tiny “1R” (one-room) units built for the pre-bubble and bubble-era single-occupant market, many under 10㎡, often with shared or minimal bath facilities. Landlords keep these on the market at rock-bottom rents (¥29,000–50,000, roughly $200-350) because Japan’s rental law makes eviction hard and vacancy is a bigger loss than low rent, so decades-old buildings just get discounted rather than renovated or torn down. This coexists with Japan’s broader wage stagnation: real wages have been flat for 20+ years, so cheap housing is one side of the same coin as cheap lunches and a weak yen — not a sign of abundance, but of a low-cost-of-living equilibrium.

    What the thread actually split on is not the apartment itself but what counts as a city’s “toshin” (city center) — commenters argued over whether Nagoya’s core neighborhoods qualify, with one poster laying out the linguistic and urban-planning distinction between “toshin” as everyday usage (any city’s downtown) versus “Tokyo-to” as the capital’s formal designation. That semantic derail ate up more of the thread than the original photo.

    What readers will likely miss: the ¥50,000 unit isn’t representative of Tokyo rents generally — it reflects a shrinking pool of substandard, hard-to-rent stock, not a market-wide price level. Posters citing Japan’s low passport-ownership rate (~17%) as proof of insularity is a real, oft-cited statistic, but it’s tangential — it explains why few posters had first-hand comparisons to cite, not why rents are actually low.

    *This article excerpts and summarizes the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G / “Live Commentary General” board) thread “[Image] ¥50,000 Rent in Central Tokyo Seriously Crosses a Line WWWWWWWWWWWWW.”

  • Unknown young players keep winning Street Fighter 6 tournaments, and it’s sparking talk about the veterans too

    Street Fighter 6 tournaments have seen a string of wins by little-known young players, and it’s become a hot topic on 5ch. Some in the thread argued “it’s no fun without recognizable names,” while others got swept up in talk about the veterans’ generational shift — what Kokujin is up to these days, Umehara’s recent form, and the shock news of pro player Shou’s sudden retirement.

    1AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:34
    It's boring if the guy with actual name value doesn't win, right?
    7AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:38
    Tokido and Kokujin — how did the gap between them get this big?
    35AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:57
    Re: #7
    I haven't followed the fighting game scene in over 10 years — what's Kokujin even doing now?
    I remember he started making and selling his own T-shirts.
    39AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:01
    Re: #35
    These days he can't even crack the top 500 in the in-game rating.
    12AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:42
    Young players winning is a good thing, isn't it?
    19AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:45
    Re: #12
    That's not the point — what's boring is when it's just nerds winning.
    Street Fighter 2 got popular with the general public precisely because it was simple. It's a shame when it shrinks back down to just otaku huddled together arguing over who won.
    44AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:03
    Re: #19
    The guys who win tournaments have always been otaku though.
    13AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:43
    There are tons of cases where some rookie wins using whatever character is busted at the time, everyone hypes it up as a "new era," and then after the balance patch they quietly slide down to upper-mid tier.
    The ones with real staying power are the guys who back up decent results with an actual character/persona — like being known as "the ○○ user."
    16AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:43
    Re: #13
    Being able to switch characters like Fuudo or Momochi is really the best.
    14AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:43
    Umehara, Mago, and Sako just can't keep up with Street Fighter 6's system anymore.
    22AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:47
    Re: #14
    Street Fighter 6's system is simple though?
    28AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:49
    Re: #14
    Mago's basically comic relief at this point, but Sako's current situation is genuinely sad.
    15AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:43
    It's good to see Japanese players showing up.
    Tekken's basically been overrun by Pakistan these days.
    21AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:46
    Re: #15
    That's just you — someone with nothing going for yourself — projecting onto Japanese developers and Japanese otaku.
    25AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:48
    Re: #15
    Demon Slayer and Hunter x Hunter are basically a Japanese monopoly.
    Well, more the "Heihoo" clique than "Japanese" broadly speaking (a nickname for a specific circle of Japanese players).
    23AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:48
    Nobody even remembers them anymore —
    guys like Shinjuku Jackie or Bunbunmaru.
    33AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:56
    Re: #23
    It's less that people forgot and more that they never knew.
    You'd have to be in your 50s to recognize those names.
    48AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:04
    Re: #23
    Bunbunmaru's showdowns against the Osaka crew were electric.
    30AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:50
    Wasn't there a guy who switched over from FPS and won Capcom Cup after just a year, pocketing a hundred million yen?
    Is it a good thing or a bad thing that some random young newcomer wins over people who've grinded fighting games for decades? 🥺
    31AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:51
    Re: #30
    Happy but sad.
    34AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:56
    Fighting games are such a small scene, and it's basically a paradise for Japanese players, so even some old geezer can still win now and then.
    But if Capcom keeps paying out real prize money, more pro gamers will keep transferring in from other scenes —
    just like how Korean LoL rejects moved to Overwatch, and the Overwatch rejects moved to Apex.
    40AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:02
    Re: #34
    Even back when I last paid attention, like 10 years ago, China/Korea were already stronger at KOF, Southeast Asia at Tekken, and America at Street Fighter 5.
    Japanese players could basically only win in minor titles like Samurai Spirits, Vampire Savior, or Capcom vs. SNK — games where it felt like the organizers rigged things so Japan could come out on top.
    I bet even Guilty Gear has America on top by now.
    45AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:03
    It got popular thanks to Kuzuha, but honestly it's just not that fun.
    47AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:04
    Re: #45
    Ma-ma-ma-maaan~ (a mocking jab riffing on 5ch slang that paints the poster as thin-skinned)
    61AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:14
    Apparently some ridiculously strong, good-looking player who was supposed to carry the whole scene forward just suddenly retired.
    75AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:21
    Re: #61
    That's Shou.
    Great looks too.
    64AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:15
    Isn't this exactly what Umehara and the others wanted, though?
    Back in the Street Fighter 5 days he was lamenting that fighting games were a dying genre where no young blood ever comes in and guys in their 40s like himself were still the top ranks.
    68AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:16
    Re: #64
    Umehara's basically become the "Hiroyuki of the fighting game world" by now (a once-sharp figure turned polarizing elder pundit) — people still worship him?
    79AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:24
    My ID changed for some reason, but I'm the same guy from Re: #64 — just answering that.
    74AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:20
    I'm not a fanboy at all.
    I was watching one of Dokura's "worst characters" videos and a clip of Umehara fretting about the future of fighting games showed up in the recommendations, so I only watched it out of curiosity.
    77AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:22
    Re: #74
    Why's this guy suddenly trying to defend himself?
    83AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:26
    Re: #74
    Nobody was calling you a fanboy in the first place.
    91AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:31
    It's not that Umehara has a bad matchup or hasn't hit his ceiling yet —
    he's simply weaker than the top tier now.
    It's not even one specific weakness; it's more like every single one of his abilities is just a notch below the top players, which is kind of sad.
    93AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:33
    Re: #91
    He just can't keep up with Street Fighter 6's gameplay mechanics.
    94AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:33
    Re: #91
    He wasn't exactly mentally tough to begin with, and now he's saying unnecessary stuff on stream, making needless enemies, and basically cornering himself.
    102AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:38
    Honestly, whether it's Umehara or Tokido or whoever — if you're going to call yourself a pro, you should be running your own weekly tournaments to help grow the playerbase.
    I get that results don't always come in tournaments, but it's not like they're living off tournament winnings alone.
    They make their living streaming, yet all they stream is ranked matches.
    103AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:39
    Re: #102
    What's the logic behind "running your own tournament grows the playerbase"?
    108AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:45
    Re: #103
    Just showing yourself having fun running your own little tournament is promotion in itself — people see it and think "oh, that looks fun."
    Of course you can't just have the same regulars entering every time, but if you don't put out a "this is fun, anyone come join!" vibe, the playerbase isn't going to grow.
    110AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:46
    Re: #108
    You're probably better off just ignoring that guy.
    Well then… see ya…
    111AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:47
    Re: #108
    You expect the top pros in the industry to do that?
    I don't know what dead-game scene you're pulling that from, but I've never heard of a single major game where the top pros run their own grassroots tournaments like that.

    Background and Key Points

    Street Fighter 6 competes under Capcom’s Capcom Cup and Capcom Pro Tour circuit, where prize pools have grown large enough (the poster’s cited “hundred million yen,” roughly $650,000+, went to a single FPS transplant player after one year in the game) to pull talent in from other esports entirely rather than build up through the old arcade-and-locals pipeline that produced Japan’s famous names. That older generation — Umehara “Daigo” (Street Fighter’s most internationally recognized pro, active since the arcade era), Tokido, Mago, Sako, Kokujin, all now in their 40s — built reputations over roughly two decades when Japan’s insular arcade scene gave homegrown players an edge international competitors couldn’t easily match.

    The thread doesn’t split on whether young players winning is good — almost everyone agrees fresh blood is desirable in a scene the older pros themselves worried was dying out (post 64). It splits on whether winning without a “name” or a defined character identity behind it is worth anything: one camp says a title should reward recognizable rivalries and playstyles the way SF2 once did for a mainstream audience, the other says results are results and nobody durable wins tournaments any other way.

    What’s easy to miss reading this from outside Japan is that the “insular home-field advantage” the posters credit for veteran success (post 34, 40) is already understood by them to be eroding country by country — Tekken to Pakistan-based players, KOF long ago to China/Korea — so the anxiety here isn’t really about these two players, it’s about Japan’s competitive-gaming infrastructure losing the last title it still dominated.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Anything Live G) thread “Street Fighter 6 is finished now that nobody-name newcomers keep winning.”

  • Rock-Bottom Izakaya Sells Draft Beer for 150 Yen — 5ch: ‘They’re Using Tanrei Kegs’

    A 5ch thread blew up over how ultra-cheap izakayas advertising 150-yen draft beer actually turn a profit. One poster revealed the trick: “It’s ‘draft beer’ because they’re using kegs of Tanrei” (a low-malt happoshu, not real beer). Meanwhile, a photo of a 400-yen block of cold tofu (hiyayakko) at an Osaka izakaya sparked a debate over whether it was a rip-off or a fair price.

    1AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:48
    How the hell do places like that even turn a profit?
    6AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:50
    Re: #2
    Guess that's really how it is, huh?
    But then there's food too — like 50-yen chicken skin skewers!
    79AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:28
    Re: #6
    Wonder how Shintendai packs 'em in like that? 190-yen beer and 50-yen skewers are tempting, but once I went, once felt like enough.
    82AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:30
    Re: #79
    How's the taste?
    Seems too cheap to be any good, so I've never actually been.
    83AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:31
    Re: #79
    The potato salad — the kind that's a pain to make yourself — is actually great there.
    If you're drinking a lot, all-you-can-drink ends up cheaper anyway,
    so it's probably mostly young or casual drinkers.
    The Toriyarou chicken-izakaya chain is similar, but some of their locations actually ban anyone over 40.
    11AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:52
    That's because they use kegs of Tanrei —
    that's why it's technically "draft beer" (really happoshu, a low-malt brew).
    17AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:54
    Re: #11
    Whoa
    so that's the trick behind it.
    20AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:55
    Beer's gotta cost like 30 yen at most to make.
    25AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:58
    Re: #20
    Just the liquor tax alone on a regular glass of draft is about 70 yen.
    22AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:56
    There was a place by Shimbashi Station with 190-yen beer that was packed every day — it went under though.
    81AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:30
    Re: #22
    Shintendai? There's one in Yurakucho too.
    23AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:57
    Re: #13
    That's just your bias talking. There's no way cold tofu costs 400 yen, right? Well, that's exactly the point — plenty of à la carte items and dishes really are overpriced rip-offs.
    44AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:05
    Re: #33
    Lol, you're just trying to flex that you drink at fancier places.
    80AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:29
    Re: #44
    Ugh…
    where do you even normally go drink then?
    54AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:14
    Re: #53
    I mean it as a price that doesn't match the going rate.
    Don't nitpick my wording so much.
    57AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:16
    Re: #54
    Ordering something you yourself think is overpriced makes no sense.
    Do you even realize what you're doing? lol
    60AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:17
    Re: #57
    Sometimes you pay for something even while thinking it's not worth it, just going "eh, whatever."
    A little wasteful spending is the spice of life too.
    63AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:19
    Re: #60
    Fair enough, but then don't call it a rip-off.
    66AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:20
    Re: #63
    A rip-off price is a rip-off price.
    Everyone ordering it knows it's normal for an izakaya but outrageous anywhere else — no need to call it out.
    67AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:21
    Re: #63
    If something costs a few dozen yen to make and doesn't even need cooking, but they charge 500 yen for it, sure, some people are gonna call that a rip-off.
    If you don't see it that way, fine, that's your call.
    65AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:20
    Real pros pick places with all-you-can-drink in the 1000-yen range.
    Actually, you don't even need beer to be on the menu.
    69AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:21
    Re: #65
    So what, sake or highballs instead then?
    70AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:23
    I'm a beer guy, so I can't go with the cheap all-you-can-drink plans.
    Forcing myself to drink chuhai instead kind of defeats the purpose anyway.
    74AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:25
    Re: #70
    Some places say "beer" on the menu but actually serve Kinmugi (a cheap happoshu brand) instead.
    In that sense, an all-you-can-drink deal that actually gives you bottled beer is a godsend.
    71AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:23
    Re: #69
    Highball and more highball.
    Green tea highball or chuhai works too.
    If you just want to get drunk, the cheap sake in the all-you-can-drink deal does the job.
    75AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:25
    Re: #71
    Honestly, I drink highballs too these days. At the end of the day, it doesn't really need to be beer.
    72AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:25
    Honestly, there are way more cheap places to drink in central Tokyo.
    77AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:26
    Re: #72
    Right? Chains like Hidakaya feel cheaper to me.
    78AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:28
    Re: #72
    Exactly this.
    Teketeke and Toriichizu are unbeatable.
    85AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:32
    Some chains have corporate contracts that get them beer wholesale at a discount.
    89AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:36
    Re: #85
    Places like that actually tend to taste pretty good too — I guess the consistency is exactly why they can land those contracts.

    Oh wait, we're talking chains here. Well, with chains, because of those contracts, other stuff on the menu tends to end up surprisingly pricier, doesn't it?
    98AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:48
    Still, I think drinking out is better — at the very least, if you pass out, someone will be there to deal with it.
    108AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:58
    Re: #98
    Guess I don't even feel the urge to drink that much anymore…
    111AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:59
    Re: #108
    Yeah, right…
    that's a young person's game.
    112AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:00
    Re: #108
    Nah, you should still go out — don't you want snacks that taste better than what you'd make yourself?
    100AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:49
    The 120-minute all-you-can-drink was only about 2500 yen, but I ended up spending 7000 yen total.
    I envy people who can just drink without eating.
    103AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:51
    Re: #100
    Wait, seriously? The drink plan doesn't come with food?

    Background and Key Points

    For readers unfamiliar with Japanese drinking culture, the key piece of background is Japan’s tiered liquor tax. Beer proper carries the highest tax; “happoshu” (low-malt brews like Kirin’s Tanrei) and “third-category” beers are taxed lower and cost izakayas far less to buy. Critically, the Japanese term for draft beer, “nama biru,” technically just means beer poured from a keg tap rather than a bottle — it describes the serving method, not the beverage category. That loophole is what lets ultra-cheap izakayas legally advertise “150-yen nama” while actually pouring happoshu, as the thread’s most-liked post pointed out. Tokyo/Osaka izakayas commonly use this drink as a loss-leader, recouping margin on food, all-you-can-drink (nomihoudai) plans, or bulk wholesale beer contracts with chains.

    Where the thread actually split was over the 400-yen hiyayakko (cold tofu) — one camp called it an outright rip-off for a dish requiring no cooking, while others argued that knowingly paying above-market price for izakaya convenience and atmosphere isn’t really being “ripped off,” since everyone understands the markup going in.

    What the thread doesn’t spell out, and outsiders likely won’t grasp, is that “happoshu” isn’t some obscure knockoff — it’s a mainstream, heavily marketed category with its own brand loyalty in Japan, not simply “fake beer.” Also worth noting: one poster mentioned the Toriyarou chain banning customers over 40 at some locations, a real and distinctly Japanese practice tied to keeping izakayas feeling youthful, but the thread never explains the reasoning, leaving foreign readers to assume it’s a joke rather than an actual house policy.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Live News G board) thread “You know how there’s sometimes an izakaya with like ‘150 yen for a draft beer’!?“

  • Disagreement Over Kenshi Yonezu Being Called Japan’s Top Musician — 5ch: ‘Then Who Else Would It Be?’

    On 5ch’s Livegalileo (anything-goes live-commentary) board, a thread titled ‘It bugs me that Field Marshal Yonezu acts like he’s the top of Japanese music’ (a sarcastic nickname playing on his name, 玄師/Genshi vs 元帥/Gensui, “Marshal”) sparked a wide-ranging debate after a poster said they couldn’t accept Kenshi Yonezu being ranked as Japan’s top musician. Rivals like Mrs. GREEN APPLE, Fujii Kaze, and Hoshino Gen were floated as alternatives, but none proved decisive, and the thread ultimately settled on the conclusion that Yonezu’s position was unshakable given his track record of coverage across Asia.

    1AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:57
    His songs aren't even that good tbh
    4AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:59
    Classic case of having nothing to say when asked 'well who else would be top then?' Can only speak from dislike.
    6AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:00
    Re: #4
    So if I said EXILE, you'd laugh at me, right?
    8AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:01
    Re: #6
    Then who do you think was on top in the 1990s?
    11AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:02
    Re: #8
    No idea… Michael Jackson maybe?
    9AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:01
    Who would you actually accept as the top act?
    10AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:02
    Re: #9
    Probably Southern All Stars, I guess? Not sure.
    12AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:02
    Re: #9
    Anyone but Yonezu or Creepy Nuts
    14AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:03
    Of course Kenshi Yonezu is the top — that's the consensus of the entire Japanese nation
    15AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:04
    Re: #14
    You seem like the type who's into anime
    18AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:05
    It's an era where only anime theme songs sell, so what can you do
    19AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:05
    Re: #18
    Sad era we live in. Poison. (a sarcastic 5ch meme, from the Fist of the North Star theme song 'Poison')
    20AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:10
    Re: #12
    Would you accept it if Mrs. GREEN APPLE were the top?
    23AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:14
    Re: #20
    Not really a fan of Mrs. GREEN APPLE either, honestly…
    24AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:15
    Hige (Official HIGE DANdism) Korea concert
    https://youtu.be/HCSKnLPFTzg?si=0iQemXgXTtPD7gwt

    Popularity at Korean shows
    Mrs. GREEN APPLE ranks dead last among recent J-pop acts

    Making Mrs. GREEN APPLE Japan's representative would just cause more confusion
    They're way too unpopular overseas
    25AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:16
    Re: #23
    Then who would you pick among recent artists?
    Fujii Kaze?
    27AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:18
    Re: #25
    Not really into Fujii Kaze or Hoshino Gen either, honestly…
    30AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:20
    Re: #27
    Isn't it just that you're an old man now and can't get into recent music at all?
    32AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:24
    Re: #30
    Well, I did think 'what's even good about this' with songs like IRIS OUT or KICK BACK
    31AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:22
    Taiwan, China, Korea — they all report Yonezu as the top act, so pushing back on that doesn't really get you anywhere…
    33AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:24
    Re: #31
    And here you usually can't stand China and Korea
    34AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:25
    Re: #32
    Those are just songs where he tried a new style to match the anime — Yonezu's roots are really in Vocaloid and ballads
    37AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:26
    Re: #34
    I actually like Vocaloid stuff, just not Yonezu's
    39AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:27
    Classic case of just being a contrarian for attention
    40AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:27
    Re: #39
    Am I obligated to like something just because it's popular?
    42AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:28
    Re: #40
    You don't have to like it, but complaining won't change anything — he's reported as the top act all across Asia
    44AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:29
    Re: #42
    So it's an era where only forced anime tie-in songs sell, huh. Poison.
    43AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:29
    I don't get people who can't stand it when something they personally dislike is popular
    Normally you'd just think 'not my taste, but I guess it's popular'
    46AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:29
    Re: #43
    People talk about being sick of 'Ohtani overload' too (a meme about excessive Shohei Ohtani coverage) — maybe it's just about needing a trigger?
    57AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:32
    Re: #24
    Even looking at stats like this on overseas popularity, you still won't accept it?
    Would you accept it if Mrs. GREEN APPLE were the top instead?
    63AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:33
    Re: #57
    I'm not gonna sit and watch some YouTube video, I'm not that bored
    65AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:34
    Re: #63
    Why are you still complaining? lol

    Everyone has celebrities they don't like
    But you're always the only one making a fuss
    66AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:34
    Re: #63
    Kind of funny how the guy claiming he's 'not bored' and it's 'a waste of time' has posted this many times in the thread — is that some kind of joke?
    59AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:32
    Re: #52
    It's just tit-for-tat at this point
    64AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:33
    Re: #59
    Did somebody start something with you?
    67AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:34
    Re: #64
    Well, I don't think it's hatred exactly. It's more like, isn't the taste just kind of off?
    69AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:35
    Re: #67
    Why are you complaining about this every single day?

    Just name someone else specifically
    If Mrs. GREEN APPLE sells well, then just insist they're the top
    Why act defeated instead of just insisting on it?
    70AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:36
    Re: #67
    Taste is different for everyone
    People who like him will say it's not off at all
    People who dislike him will say he's no good
    What are you even trying to accomplish by asking that?
    74AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:38
    Re: #70
    It's just a question of whether people genuinely accept that weird singing style of his
    78AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:40
    Re: #74
    But even if fans say they accept it, you'll just doubt them and go 'really though?', won't you?
    80AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:41
    Re: #78
    Like take IRIS OUT for example — the singing is really weird, right? But it was a hit. Makes me feel like everyone except me is an alien or something
    84AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:43
    Re: #80
    I feel that way about other celebrities too
    My taste is so out of sync with everyone else that I stopped talking about Japanese entertainment altogether
    I don't think Mrs. GREEN APPLE or BACK NUMBER are any good either, and nobody gets it, so I only talk about overseas stuff now

    Background and Key Points

    Kenshi Yonezu isn’t a fringe figure by any measure of the mainstream Japanese charts: he broke through as the Vocaloid producer “Hachi” before going mainstream around 2012, and since then has supplied theme songs to some of the biggest anime and drama franchises of the past decade — “Lemon,” “KING,” and, mentioned directly in the thread, “KICK BACK” (Chainsaw Man) and “IRIS OUT” (Kaiju No. 8). That anime-tie-in pipeline is central to why he dominates Oricon and Billboard Japan streaming charts: original theme songs for hit anime get guaranteed exposure to a huge, captive audience in a way most standalone singles don’t, which is also why posters gripe about it being “an era where only anime songs sell.”

    What the thread actually splits on isn’t whether Yonezu sells — nobody disputes that — but whether chart dominance should settle the informal, purely subjective question of who is “Japan’s top musician.” Several posters concede they can’t name a more commercially convincing rival (Mrs. GREEN APPLE, Fujii Kaze, and Hoshino Gen all get floated and shot down) yet still resist calling him the best, framing it as a taste objection to his vocal style rather than a chart argument.

    Readers should be aware there’s no such thing as an official “top musician of Japan” title; it’s shorthand for chart placement, streaming numbers, and media coverage, not any certifying body. The claim that “Taiwan, China, and Korea all report him as top” is also asserted by posters without a source beyond a single YouTube concert clip, so it should be read as thread lore, not verified fact.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Livegalileo board) thread ‘It bugs me that Field Marshal Yonezu acts like he’s the top of Japanese music’.

  • Med Student: “Phew… Phew… I got my medical license… Now let’s go fix everyone’s anuses!” → Becomes a proctologist

    A thread went up on 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyou G” (Live Anything) board where a med student pumped himself up, declaring, “I studied like crazy and finally got my medical license… now, time to fix everyone’s anuses!”

    The thread kicked off with jokes about what proctologists are even for and cracks like “they stare at other people’s anuses 24/7, 365 days a year,” before spiraling into a broader debate about the popularity and pecking order of different medical specialties — OB-GYN, pediatrics, psychiatry, cardiac surgery, and more.

    1AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:21
    Nah, that's not how it's gonna go.
    2AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:21
    "Now, let's go ogle actresses' butts for free!" is more like it.
    3AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:21
    Nah, proctologists are a blessing.
    4AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:22
    Proctologists have nasty personalities though.
    6AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:23
    Re: #4
    Well yeah, when all you look at is other people's anuses 24/7, 365 days a year, your personality's bound to get twisted.
    50AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:41
    Re: #6
    Come on, they must have SOME time when they're not looking at anuses.
    7AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:23
    A proctologist saved me as a kid, and that's what made me want to become one myself.
    9AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:24
    Proctology is important, obviously.
    We're not kids here.
    10AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:25
    Stuff like this slowly chips away at the field, and if proctology specialists end up drastically dwindling down the road, it's us who'll be in trouble.
    If cosmetic surgeons vanished, nobody would care, but if doctors who actually treat disease disappear, we're the ones who'd suffer — I don't get what people are trying to accomplish.
    11AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:25
    If your anus goes bad, life gets miserable real fast — of course it's important.
    14AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:26
    How far does a proctologist's territory actually extend?
    Internally, up to the sigmoid colon?
    Externally, all the way to the crack??
    15AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:27
    But doctors check every box of the "4K" jobs — stinky, dirty, brutal, and loaded (a riff on Japan's "3K" label for tough/dirty/dangerous jobs, with "rich" tacked on here).
    16AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:27
    I'm a med student myself, and I don't know a single guy around me who wants to go into OB-GYN.
    Even our OB-GYN professor said, "I probably shouldn't say this, but honestly, we really wish more male students would go into obstetrics and gynecology."
    17AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:28
    Nobody said proctologists "don't need to exist," so saying "it's important" isn't actually a rebuttal to anything.
    18AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:28
    Reasons to go into it: the bar's high since you need experience across multiple fields like gastroenterology, so competition is low.
    Surprisingly, a lot of women have hemorrhoids too, so patients aren't scarce.
    And there's basically no risk of a fatal medical accident.
    27AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:31
    Where does it fall in the doctor hierarchy, I wonder? I'd guess surgeons and ER doctors sit at the top.
    101AnonymousAug 20, 2026 13:24
    Re: #27
    If a proctologist only treated hemorrhoids, sure, but in reality they're GI surgeons who also handle tough procedures like the Hartmann procedure, so other departments actually respect them.
    35AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:35
    Bottom tier is pediatrics.
    Seriously, nobody wanted it.
    54AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:43
    Which department is basically "only the highly capable need apply"?
    60AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:44
    Re: #54
    Cardiac surgery.
    You need to be smart AND have the stamina to pull three straight all-nighters.
    56AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:43
    Just being a doctor already commands respect, but
    I guess even among doctors there's some kind of caste system, huh 😔
    59AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:44
    Re: #56
    It'd be great if the whole world thought like you (stares off into the distance)
    70AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:49
    It's a more necessary specialty than psychiatry, honestly.
    102AnonymousAug 20, 2026 13:27
    Re: #70
    Psychiatry is necessary too.
    They're working hard to keep 200,000 long-term inpatients from being released back into general society.
    87AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:59
    Turns out most young OB-GYNs these days are women.
    At this rate, obstetrics/gynecology is headed for collapse.
    92AnonymousAug 20, 2026 13:04
    Re: #87
    With the birth rate falling, the number of doctors needed is dropping too, so it probably balances out.
    94AnonymousAug 20, 2026 13:10
    Re: #87
    Female doctors tend not to want night shifts, so you should just assume nighttime deliveries won't be a thing anymore.
    105AnonymousAug 20, 2026 13:30
    If you need hemorrhoid surgery, go to the surgery department at a big hospital.
    I went to a private proctology clinic first and it was awful — they just dragged the treatment out.
    110AnonymousAug 20, 2026 13:56
    Re: #105
    Dermatology was awful too.
    I wanted a cyst removed from a sensitive area ASAP, but they just kept stalling with medication. A full year later I finally got a referral to a big hospital and got it fixed with surgery.
    106AnonymousAug 20, 2026 13:31
    Dentists have it pretty rough too, don't they.
    Other people's mouths are nasty.

    Background and Key Points

    Med student proctology thread → English closer.

    **Background readers need:** Japan’s medical hierarchy runs partly on prestige and lifestyle. Proctology (肛門科, kōmonka) is a real subspecialty of gastrointestinal surgery, not just hemorrhoid-popping — treating anal fistulas, hemorrhoids, and procedures like the Hartmann operation. It survives in Japan through a network of dedicated specialty clinics (専門クリニック) alongside hospital GI-surgery departments, a setup less common in the US or UK, where colorectal issues mostly funnel through general/colorectal surgery. On the other end of the debate, OB-GYN (産婦人科) has a well-documented staffing crisis: grueling night shifts for deliveries, high malpractice liability, and a shrinking pool of male applicants — a professor’s on-record plea in the thread (“we really wish more male students would go into obstetrics”) reflects a real recruitment problem discussed in Japanese medical education circles for years.

    **Where the thread split:** Not on whether proctology matters — nobody argued that — but on rank. Posters diverged over whether “necessary/undesirable” specialties like proctology and psychiatry deserve more respect than their reputation suggests, versus a competing view that pediatrics and OB-GYN are the true bottom-tier postings because of pay, hours, and lawsuit risk, while cardiac surgery sits at the top purely on difficulty and stamina.

    **What outsiders likely miss:** The debate says nothing about reimbursement rates — in Japan’s national health insurance (fee schedule) system, procedural specialties like surgery and cardiac surgery are compensated far better per hour than cognitive/talk-heavy fields like psychiatry or general pediatrics, which is a bigger driver of the pecking order than posters here admit.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyou G) thread “Med Student: “Phew… Phew… I studied so hard and finally got my medical license…! Now! Let’s go fix everyone’s anuses!” → Becomes a proctologist.”

  • Best Places to Live in Kanagawa Outside Yokohama? 5ch Debates Ebina, Kawasaki, and Hiratsuka

    A thread titled “I want to live in Kanagawa Prefecture outside Yokohama City” popped up on 5ch’s “Livegalileo” (live-discussion) board, sparking talk about what it’s actually like to live in places like Ebina, Kawasaki, Hiratsuka, Chigasaki, and Hayama.

    Ebina drew praise for its transit convenience, but others warned about liquefaction risk and the Sagami River’s flood potential, while more practical voices pointed out that the Shonan coastal area is rough to live in without a car — leaving the thread split.

    1AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:20
    Ebina, maybe?
    2AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:21
    Say what you want, but Kawasaki's convenient — way better than ending up somewhere like Atsugi.
    7AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:24
    Re: #2
    Kawasaki's air is way too polluted.
    3AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:22
    Ebina's population is exploding, but if a big earthquake hits, that ground looks primed to liquefy.
    10AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:25
    Re: #3
    By that logic you couldn't live anywhere around there.
    46AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:36
    Re: #3
    Just so you know — if the Sagami River overflows, it's Ebina that's in trouble, not the Atsugi side.
    5AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:23
    Isn't Machida pretty convenient?
    8AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:24
    Re: #5
    Not interested in Tokyo proper (Machida is technically part of Tokyo, not Kanagawa).
    9AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:25
    I live in Ebina and it's honestly easy to live in — it's a bit out in the countryside, but there's decent shopping and it's easy to get into the city too.
    13AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:26
    Re: #9
    Walked around Vinawalk today and now I'm sure of it — this place is livable. (Vinawalk is the big shopping complex by Ebina Station)
    12AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:25
    Once you want a no-transfer train ride into Tokyo's 23 wards, rent stays high. Stop caring about access to central Tokyo and it drops fast.
    20AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:27
    Re: #12
    Honestly the area along the Sagami Line isn't bad either.
    14AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:26
    Central Kanagawa ("Kenou") has cheap land, bad public safety, and a low rate of kids taking private middle-school entrance exams — I'd skip it. (Writing this from Hayama, by the way.)
    54AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:38
    Re: #14
    Compared to Fukuoka or Kansai, Kanagawa's crime rate is nothing.
    23AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:29
    Even within Yokosuka, somewhere like Akiya near Hayama seems nice. If you're living in Kanagawa, go coastal.
    29AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:30
    Re: #23
    A spot that gets wiped out by the Nankai Trough megaquake… not so sure about that.
    28AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:30
    Ebina's hot. If you can handle brutal heat waves, it's probably fine?
    31AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:30
    Re: #28
    Walked around today and it wasn't even that hot.
    30AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:30
    Re: #13
    You've got JR, Sotetsu, and Odakyu lines, and Ebina's even the starting station for the Sotetsu Line — it's the best.
    32AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:31
    Re: #30
    JR needs to move its station already.
    35AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:32
    Re: #29
    I'm in Hayama, and it's marked pink on the hazard map, so if a tsunami hits, I'm done for. But if you're going to live in central Kanagawa anyway, why not just live in Tokyo proper? If you're deliberately moving to Kanagawa, the coast makes more sense. Personally I think somewhere like Ninomiya is also a nice rural pick.
    38AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:32
    Re: #35
    If it's coastal, Hiratsuka or Chigasaki would've been good calls.
    40AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:34
    Re: #38
    Hiratsuka's fine if you're on the south side. The Beniya-cho area is a bit sketchy, so I wouldn't want to live near the north exit. (Beniya-cho is a nightlife district by Hiratsuka Station)
    45AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:36
    Re: #40
    Haven't been to the side near the velodrome, but the area near city hall is nice.
    48AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:36
    The Tama side of Kawasaki is really nice, I think.
    51AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:37
    Re: #48
    Somewhere like Asao Ward has way too high rent.
    49AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:37
    Saw the old Sagami Kokubunji temple ruins today — up on that high ground, it's probably pretty disaster-resistant.
    58AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:39
    Re: #49
    Central Kanagawa sits on a river terrace, so past a certain slope it's all elevated plateau. (a stepped landform carved by the river over time)
    56AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:39
    The stretch from Chigasaki to Kamakura is rough to live in without a car, and even with one, the traffic is hell. Hiratsuka's just barely tolerable, but even if you head to the beach there, people still laugh and go 'lol, Hiratsuka.'
    60AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:42
    Re: #56
    Can't really blame it — the Miura Peninsula got urbanized in an era that never planned for getting around by car.
    70AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:47
    What about along Ibaraki's Joban Line or the Tsukuba Express?
    74AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:48
    Re: #70
    That's basically Chiba at that point.
    78AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:49
    Re: #60
    Still, the location can't be beat — every morning I walk my dog on the beach with a massive Mt. Fuji staring right back at me.
    80AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:51
    Re: #78
    Then why are there so many vacant houses?
    98AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:55
    Fujisawa and Kamakura are nice, but it's a long haul to central Tokyo.
    102AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:56
    Re: #98
    Ebina's actually close to Shinjuku.

    Background and Key Points

    Kanagawa Prefecture is Japan’s second most populous prefecture, with roughly 9.2 million residents, but its identity outside Yokohama and Kawasaki is genuinely fragmented. “Kenou” (central Kanagawa), where Ebina and Atsugi sit, is inland river-terrace terrain shaped by the Sagami River; “Shonan,” running from Chigasaki through Hiratsuka to Kamakura and Hayama, is the prefecture’s famous Pacific coastline. Kawasaki’s coastal wards still carry the legacy of the Keihin industrial belt, a corridor of refineries and factories built through the 20th century that gave the city its old reputation for poor air quality, even though pollution controls have since brought it in line with national standards.

    The thread’s real fault line wasn’t Yokohama versus everywhere else — it was inland convenience versus coastal risk. Ebina backers valued its three-railway hub (JR, Odakyu, Sotetsu) and shopping, while critics raised the Sagami River’s flood potential and liquefaction on its alluvial ground. Shonan backers cited beach living and views of Mt. Fuji, but were met with warnings about Nankai Trough tsunami exposure and near-total car dependency, since the coast urbanized before postwar road planning caught up.

    What outside readers likely miss is Machida: despite sitting in the middle of this Kanagawa conversation geographically and functioning as its shared commercial hub, it is legally part of Tokyo Metropolis, not Kanagawa — an administrative quirk that trips up anyone reading the map rather than the ward boundaries. The thread also never cites actual crime statistics; the “bad public safety” claim for central Kanagawa is impressionistic, and National Police Agency data doesn’t support ranking it above Fukuoka or Osaka.

    *This article is composed from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Livegalileo board) thread “I want to live in Kanagawa Prefecture outside Yokohama City”.

  • Chef’s Video of Dumping a Mountain of Salt on Fish Sparks Debate: ‘This Much Is Normal, Right?’

    A video of a female chef pouring a huge amount of salt over a fish went viral on social media and became a hot topic on 5channel as well. Some pointed out how it differs from proper shiogama-yaki (salt-crust baking), others defended it as pricing that bakes in the cost of the performance along with the ingredients, while still others questioned the hygiene of handling a phone with bare hands — and the discussion even expanded into comparisons with sumo wrestlers scattering salt in the ring.

    1AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:51
    tps://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2089031429997187072/vid/avc1/1126×1640/sefpBCtvxHnURMhq.mp4?tag=29
    2AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:52
    This is just the restaurant's concept, so it's got nothing to do with gender
    6AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:54
    That's one of those robatayaki (hearth-grill) joints that's been dumping tons of salt lately, right?
    8AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:55
    The 'let the ingredients speak for themselves' purists are gonna lose it
    13AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:56
    Re: #8
    One of those 'ingredient purist' tribe members, huh?
    18AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:58
    Cleaning the floor and drain after that seems like a pain
    22AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:59
    As long as it's not just a crappy stunt for clout, it's fine
    104AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:19
    Re: #22
    Is there any other reason to do something like this?
    26AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:00
    There's that dish where they pack the fish in a salt crust, right?
    It's probably that
    31AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:03
    The fact the chef isn't even wearing a hat tells you everything about this place's standards
    33AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:05
    They're charging customers for all that wasted salt too, how ridiculous
    35AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:06
    Re: #33
    That doesn't even cost 5 yen
    Have you never bought salt at a supermarket, you middle-aged shut-in still living with your parents (kodo-oji)?
    38AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:07
    Do customers actually look at this and go 'whoa, amazing!'?
    39AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:08
    40AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:08
    Menus at places like this probably have the performance baked right into the price
    42AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:09
    Wait, is that first fish a kinki (thornyhead rockfish)?
    It's pretty big, how much would that even run…
    44AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:11
    Re: #35
    I mean, salt's actually gotten pretty pricey too
    Hakata no Shio (a popular salt brand) runs almost 400 yen
    53AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:16
    Re: #44
    That's for 1kg, right? And that's retail, not wholesale
    Even if it really is 400 yen per kg, 50g of that is only 20 yen
    63AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:25
    Re: #53
    Even if the raw cost is 20 yen, they're obviously marking it up 20x on the price
    105AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:20
    Re: #53
    People obsessed with 'raw ingredient cost' are seriously dense
    45AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:13
    This is the hottest battle on X right now
    You guys better think hard about which side you're on

    80AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:36
    Re: #45
    Lmao the defenders bringing up shiogama-yaki (salt-crust baking)
    Where's the shiogama-yaki element in this cooking method?
    The only thing they have in common is using salt — if it's just excessive salt for show, that's a waste
    83AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:39
    Re: #45
    The amount of salt 'needed' for shiogama-yaki (salt-crust bake)
    The amount of salt 'needed' for shioyaki (salt-grilled fish)
    Those are different dishes, so the comparison is off the mark
    87AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:43
    Re: #45
    Looked it up and the purpose and method are totally different lol
    47AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:14
    The fact they don't even flinch at wasting this much confirms they're using dirt-cheap refined salt
    Grilling with good, flavorful salt is the whole point — this basically says 'this place is for suckers who go for the show'
    54AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:17
    Wearing a phone around her neck is weird too
    Phones are supposedly dirtier than a toilet seat
    And right at the start she shoves it out of the way like it's in her hair
    55AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:17
    If the salt that falls on the floor is just getting flushed straight down the drain, that's speeding up pipe corrosion in the area
    56AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:17
    Working with a phone dangling around her neck is wild, looks like her personal phone too
    And she's adjusting its position with her bare hands, that's just done for
    Phones are basically toilet-seat-level filthy
    58AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:19
    They say it's aimed at foreigners, but are there even restaurants overseas that pull stunts like this?
    60AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:24
    Japan's always been a country with basically infinite salt, so using this much is fine
    76AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:33
    Experience-focused restaurants just aren't for the cost-performance obsessed guys (kosupa-oji)
    78AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:34
    Re: #76
    'Not for cost-performance guys' → wrong
    'Not for normal, sane people' → correct
    82AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:39
    Honestly this is fine
    Sumo wrestlers scatter way more salt than this
    That's the one that actually has no real point
    88AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:43
    Re: #82
    Well, that one's a ritual though

    If this fish or shrimp were cursed and needed a ton of salt dumped on them, everyone would totally get it
    90AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:46
    Re: #82
    It's a holdover from when it was a Shinto rite to ward off evil spirits and pray for a bountiful harvest, so it technically still carries meaning
    91AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:49
    Re: #82
    That's totally different
    To begin with, that's not done as a joke. Though the times wrestlers goof around and fling huge amounts during regional tours, that's basically the same as this video

    Background and Key Points

    Shiogama-yaki, the technique posters invoke to defend the video, is a specific method: a whole fish is packed in a paste of salt and egg white and baked until it hardens into a shell, which seals in moisture and lightly seasons the flesh as it steams inside. It is not the same act as pouring loose refined salt over a fish on an open robata grill, which is why several posters call the comparison a category error. Robatayaki restaurants built around live, camera-ready hearth cooking have become a recognizable genre on Japanese social media, and stunts like this are usually aimed at video engagement as much as at diners in the room. On pricing, ordinary Japanese table salt runs only a few hundred yen per kilogram at retail, so the raw cost of the salt shown is trivial even by the thread’s own math.

    The actual fault line in the thread is narrower than “wasteful or not” — it’s whether the shiogama-yaki defense holds up at all, with several posters concluding the two dishes share nothing but the word “salt,” and whether a near-zero ingredient cost invalidates charging for the show.

    One claim readers should question: a poster asserts Japan has “basically infinite salt,” but Japan has almost no usable salt fields because of its humid climate, and domestic salt was a government monopoly (senbai seido) until deregulation in 1997 specifically because supply was historically scarce, not abundant. No one in the thread also notes that sumo’s salt-throwing (kiyome no shio) is a Shinto purification rite for the ring, not a food-preparation act, despite being pulled into the debate as a comparison.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Video] Female Chef: ‘Salt on Fish? This Much Is Normal’“.