Initial D Deserved to Be Way Bigger — 5ch: “The AE86 Is Just Showa-Era Scrap Metal”

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The story

A post on 5ch’s Livegalileo board (a general live-commentary board) arguing that Initial D deserved to be more popular than it was sparked a wide-ranging discussion. The thread covered everything from opinions on the AE86 and Ryosuke Takahashi, to the romance subplot and mixed feelings about the later Project D arc, to how fans feel about the spin-off MF Ghost.

What people said

1AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:44
This is way too good
2AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:45
Would've been better without the unnecessary romance stuff
4AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:47
Re: #2
You need some high school romance in there though
3AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:46
The art style hits just right
Even decades later, rewatching it doesn't feel dated at all
6AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:49
It got so huge that AE86 prices are still sky-high today, and other FR manual cars haven't turned into junk either just for being FR MTs
11AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:50
Kinda put off that the heroine was into sugar-daddy dating (papa-katsu)
84AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:28
Re: #11
Man, that was way ahead of its time…
12AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:50
The AE86 is slow anyway
18AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:51
Re: #12
Takumi's AE86 isn't even really an AE86 anymore at that point
21AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:52
Re: #18
A BMW is faster
than a Corolla
24AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:53
Re: #18
An AE86 is an AE86
Showa-era scrap metal
20AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:52
The cars are great, but aren't the character designs kind of bad?
29AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:55
Re: #20
Hard to say since the art style changes by season
The character designs are actually good in the 3rd and 4th Stages
30AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:55
The anime is free to watch from the very start all the way through New Movie Edition 3
33AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:56
Re: #30
That's why I'm binging it right now — it's so good I can't stop
47AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:05
Ryosuke Takahashi was written to seem cool, but he was actually pretty lame
Burning through his parents' money to run his team and lord it over other teams
50AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:07
Re: #47
That'd be fair if he did it behind his parents' backs, but was there actually a scene showing that?
He said the reason he provoked other teams on his website was to get them to come at him for real
51AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:08
Re: #47
Go drive a real mountain pass
Initial D might as well be a video game
70AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:17
Re: #47
I think it's fine since he's a student
The rivals spent plenty of money on their cars too
There were some rich kids among them as well
It's not like Team D was the only one with money
62AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:13
Couldn't they have done something about that heroine's face?
68AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:15
Re: #62
The Itsuki parts matter, but the Natsuki parts are the ones you skip
64AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:13
Re: #50
If you're bringing that much manpower and equipment, mooching off your parents is the only option
Remember, he's still just a student while he's out there going wild
67AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:15
Re: #64
Maybe he was secretly making bank off investments on the side
72AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:17
Kids today probably have no clue why he's constantly rattling that shift lever around
76AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:19
Re: #72
If you want that rattly gear-shift feeling, you can still get it from a Prius…
73AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:18
Re: #67
I think it would've been good if they'd actually shown that
Without it, he's basically just mooching off his hospital-director dad
75AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:18
Re: #73
Ideally they'd have shown him landing sponsors through his racing itself
79AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:24
Re: #70
Team D was clearly on another level
Showing up with three Hiaces packed with gear, swapping tires nonstop, basically playing pro team
While everyone else was grinding part-time jobs to scrape by
89AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:33
Re: #79
Can't really help that when you're on the road
The home team knows the course inside and out and has their car tuned for it, but Team D is seeing it for the first time and has to set up on the spot
Wouldn't it be weirder if they showed up empty-handed and just dominated anyway?
83AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:26
They introduced the Impreza partway through, but the story ended without him ever switching away from the AE86
100AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:45
Re: #83
There was actually supposed to be a rally arc
But probably due to editorial or sponsor decisions to keep pushing the "fastest on public roads" formula, they kicked off the Project D arc instead
That turned out to be completely unnecessary and just awful
I mean, it was already way too fantastical from the start, but it's a manga, so it still would've wrapped up nicely otherwise
92AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:35
Maybe it's just because it's the YouTube stream, but up through around Stage 4 it's so blurry it feels like something's wrong with your eyes
Wish they'd do a digital remaster
93AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:36
Re: #92
Wish they'd also fix those terrible early police-chase battle scenes
As for the trilogy movies, I just can't get on board with the art style or voice cast
95AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:38
What does the 'D' even stand for? I still don't know to this day
97AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:38
Re: #95
Seems like it has several meanings
For Project D, the D stands for 'Dream'
96AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:38
The funniest part is early on when Takumi gets clowned on as 'a guy who doesn't know the first thing about cars these days'
98AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:39
Re: #96
That part's basically a power fantasy
It's just satisfying and fun to watch

Background and Key Points

Initial D began as Shuichi Shigeno’s manga in 1995 and ran until 2013, spawning five TV anime series between 1998 and 2014, three live-action-style CG movies, and a Hong Kong live-action film. Its car of choice, the Toyota Sprinter Trueno/Corolla Levin AE86, was a cheap, unremarkable Japanese economy coupe from 1983–87 with no racing pedigree; it became a cult object specifically because of this franchise, not before it, which is why real AE86 prices are still inflated decades later, as the thread notes. The setting is touge racing — illegal nighttime downhill duels on narrow mountain passes, here fictionalized as Mount Akina in Gunma — a real, longstanding but unsanctioned subculture in Japan that the anime romanticizes without commentary. The board itself, Livegalileo, is a general live-chat board rather than an anime-specific one, so the tone skews toward casual car-culture nostalgia rather than close manga analysis.

The actual point of disagreement wasn’t the AE86 or the racing itself but Ryosuke Takahashi: whether his Project D operation, bankrolled by his father’s money, makes him an admirable strategist or simply a rich kid throwing resources at amateur racers who fund themselves. Posters split over whether the manga ever justified this financially or just glossed over it.

What’s likely to surprise outsiders is that even Shigeno himself has never pinned down what “D” officially stands for, giving different answers over the years (Drift, Dream, District, etc.) — the thread’s confusion on that point is faithful to the source, not a gap in fan knowledge.

*This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Livegalileo board) thread “Initial D really deserved to be bigger, right?”.

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