Category: News

  • Reina Uemura: “I Want to Get Ripped” — 5ch: “She’ll Hit a 250kg Deadlift”

    Hello! Project idol Reina Uemura’s exchange with co-star Onoda, who asked her “Haven’t you been going to the gym?”, was picked up on 5ch’s Hello! Project board. Uemura reportedly said, “I do go to the gym, but right now it’s just walking and running. I want to get into serious strength training and someday show off a ripped version of myself.” The thread mixed encouragement (“go for it!”) with jokes about future deadlift records and bodybuilding championship appearances, along with some wistful comments about her losing her feminine figure.

    1AnonymousSep 22, 2026 09:13
    Onoda: Rena-chan, weren't you not going to the gym?
    Uemura: I do go to the gym — I do go, but it's not really serious strength training, more like just walking or running. Serious training is…
    2AnonymousSep 22, 2026 09:13
    That's not what I meant
    9AnonymousSep 22, 2026 09:15
    It's great that strength training is catching on among Hello! Project members
    Keep it up
    11AnonymousSep 22, 2026 09:19
    I at least want her to get as ripped as Rei-rei
    13AnonymousSep 22, 2026 09:19
    Of course it's the girl who'd never get chubby who's the most into fitness
    15AnonymousSep 22, 2026 09:24
    Three years later

    Kami-Rena: "I have an announcement for everyone. A demon has finally taken up residence in my back" (bodybuilder slang for having back muscles so defined they look like a demon face)
    17AnonymousSep 22, 2026 09:26
    Just wait for it, everyone
    Because it's basically a done deal she's going to show off that ripped physique
    18AnonymousSep 22, 2026 09:28
    Hope she turns into a narcissistic, sexy fitness type like Nonaka
    21AnonymousSep 22, 2026 09:31
    The future bodybuilding championship winner, right here
    42AnonymousSep 22, 2026 10:10
    Forget egg over rice — she'll be chugging ten raw eggs at once (a Rocky-style training cliché)
    46AnonymousSep 22, 2026 10:34
    Well, slimming down her waist into a leaner frame is a good thing
    Low-rise fits her better anyway
    Lately it's all high-waisted, tube-shaped torsos
    47AnonymousSep 22, 2026 10:36
    She might end up like Bisky from Hunter x Hunter (the tiny character who transforms into a muscle-bound giant)
    49AnonymousSep 22, 2026 11:13
    Kami-Rena striking bodybuilder poses with a big smile
    52AnonymousSep 22, 2026 11:22
    Aren't K-pop idols all pretty ripped though
    Well, more like toned and "body-made" than bulked up
    You can't pull off those outfits otherwise
    54AnonymousSep 22, 2026 11:24
    The K-pop uncle randomly launching into K-pop talk again
    57AnonymousSep 22, 2026 11:33
    I do want to see the before-and-after difference, so first show me you're serious
    58AnonymousSep 22, 2026 11:34
    It's fine as long as she actually trains and builds real muscle instead of doing nothing and hiding it under high-waisted stuff
    Also she should probably ditch those hyper-thick platform heels — they're bad for her legs, and dancing with that much weight strapped to her feet is obviously going to bulk her legs up lol
    59AnonymousSep 22, 2026 11:35
    Reina Uemura being ripped is way too cute, I'm losing it lolololol
    60AnonymousSep 22, 2026 11:37
    I want to cheer Rena-chan on at a competition once she becomes a bodybuilder
    63AnonymousSep 22, 2026 11:39
    If those shoes came off easily, nobody would have trouble with them
    Once you put them on, it's hard to stop

    Background and Talking Points

    An idol’s changing body is a perennial hot topic on 5ch’s idol-scene boards, where cheering and joking tend to blur together. The numbers thrown around here — “250 to 290kg deadlifts,” “bodybuilding championships” — are exaggerated jokes; Uemura herself never said she was aiming for competitive-level training. Many posts in the thread also brought up other members’ or former idols’ body changes, but unverifiable rumors, including doping speculation, have been excluded from this article. It’s worth noting that Uemura’s actual comments were limited to “light exercise for now” and “someday I’d like to do serious strength training” — a future aspiration, not a confirmed plan to drastically change her physique.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “[Sad News] Reina Uemura makes a questionable resolution: “I go to the gym, so I want to do serious strength training and someday show off a ripped version of myself”“.

  • Asian Games’ Handwritten Signage Leaves Overseas Fans “Dying of Laughter”

    Images of handwritten signage at Asian Games venues in Nagoya, Aichi, have been circulating online, and overseas reactions calling it “hilarious enough to die laughing” were reposted to 5ch. The thread quickly moved past the signs themselves and into questions about the event’s management — namely, why it ended up handwritten at all — with some praising a setup that didn’t involve ad giant Dentsu, and others questioning how a roughly ¥370 billion budget could produce this. Opinions split between those calling the handwriting a reasonable improvised fix and those seeing it as proof of sloppy advance planning.

    20AnonymousSep 22, 2026 11:37
    Even the national flags are handwritten, lol.
    At least print them out on a home printer or at a convenience store.
    91AnonymousSep 22, 2026 12:02
    Re: #20
    They're single-use anyway, what a waste.
    34AnonymousSep 22, 2026 11:43
    AI could've knocked out signs like this in seconds, so why…
    45AnonymousSep 22, 2026 11:45
    Re: #34
    What, blow it up to whiteboard size and print it?
    92AnonymousSep 22, 2026 12:03
    Re: #45
    Re: #34
    Hand the job to some guy who says "just do it, it's easy" and he'll print the AI image on an A4 printer, it'll come out tiny, and people will complain anyway.

    Or are you going to print it in sections and manually piece together something whiteboard-sized? That'd probably take like ten times longer than just writing it out by hand.

    And obviously there was no way to pre-order proper printed posters from a vendor either, since the match pairings weren't finalized yet.
    50AnonymousSep 22, 2026 11:47
    Realistically, ¥370 billion to build venues, staff the event, and even put up housing — that's just not enough.
    53AnonymousSep 22, 2026 11:48
    Re: #50
    So how much would it take then, lol. More than the Expo?
    55AnonymousSep 22, 2026 11:49
    Re: #50
    Walk me through the math on why it's "not enough."
    63AnonymousSep 22, 2026 11:51
    Re: #50
    Can you only think in all-or-nothing terms? This event's quality doesn't match a ¥370 billion budget.
    54AnonymousSep 22, 2026 11:49
    Doesn't have to be Dentsu, but Aichi Prefecture, as host, needed to mobilize the whole region and get serious prep going at a really early stage — instead they barely did anything, and that's exactly why we're in this mess. Bureaucrats and politicians really are useless blockheads who can't improvise. If they're serious about reflecting on it, they should have a report with countermeasures and accountability wrapped up within about two months.
    77AnonymousSep 22, 2026 11:57
    Re: #54
    Even with all that lead time, if Aichi Prefecture tried to run this themselves, no amount of manpower would cover the coordination work, and they wouldn't even know who to ask for what. Ad agencies know that stuff from years of experience — that's the whole point of using one.
    57AnonymousSep 22, 2026 11:50
    It's Toyota's home turf, they should've just let Toyota run the whole show — quality would've been top-tier. No telling how many trillions it'd cost, though.
    58AnonymousSep 22, 2026 11:50
    Re: #57
    Toyota's strict about not wasting money though.
    62AnonymousSep 22, 2026 11:51
    Re: #57
    It'd probably run an extra ¥30 billion and be plastered with Toyota ads everywhere, but honestly, the quality would end up incredible.
    66AnonymousSep 22, 2026 11:53
    This thread reeks of garlic 🧄. Somebody crack a window. (a jab implying Korean posters, since garlic is stereotypically linked to Korean food)
    97AnonymousSep 22, 2026 12:04
    Re: #66
    Want some garlic with that?
    (riffing on the famous ramen-shop line "Would you like garlic?")
    67AnonymousSep 22, 2026 11:53
    But if you need a sign made on the spot, isn't handwriting it the fastest, most efficient option?
    70AnonymousSep 22, 2026 11:54
    Re: #67
    Why not just prepare it in advance?
    74AnonymousSep 22, 2026 11:55
    Are digital display boards really that rare? Guess our worlds are just too different for me to get it.
    107AnonymousSep 22, 2026 12:09
    Re: #74
    Even in Aichi, don't train stations have tons of those…?
    83AnonymousSep 22, 2026 11:59
    Everyone was bashing Dentsu, but maybe they were actually necessary?
    86AnonymousSep 22, 2026 12:01
    Re: #83
    Better a clumsy, above-board operation than a slick one riddled with crime, right? (a nod to Dentsu's Tokyo Olympics bid-rigging scandal)
    85AnonymousSep 22, 2026 12:00
    Why does it look like scribbles, at least write it neatly.
    89AnonymousSep 22, 2026 12:02
    Re: #85
    No no no no, they're clearly writing it to look deliberately handwritten/rough.

    Seriously, is this okay???

    Is a My Number Card required???wwwwwwwwwww ("My Number Card" is Japan's national ID card; strings of "w" are Japanese text-laughter, like "lol")
    114AnonymousSep 22, 2026 12:10
    The Japan you're all picturing only existed up through the era when the Baby Boomers and the Bubble generation were running things. When the "Ice Age" generation (those who graduated into Japan's 1990s–2000s hiring freeze) is in charge, the on-site managers are the "relaxed education" generation, and the workers are Gen Z, of course it turns out like this.
    119AnonymousSep 22, 2026 12:11
    Re: #114
    The workers are volunteer old-timers and people hired through Timee (a Japanese app for same-day gig work).

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The 2026 Asian Games, held in Nagoya, Aichi, is a massive event with a budget of roughly ¥370 billion, but news that its signage was handwritten sparked a wave of reactions on social media. In the thread, opinions split between critics arguing the execution doesn’t match the budget, and defenders arguing that plain, no-frills management carries fewer risks than a flashy operation led by a major ad agency. Note that specific figures for the total budget and the companies involved varied from post to post, and since this is secondhand chatter from 5ch, it should be taken with some caution. Handwritten signage is also a fairly common on-the-spot fix — like swapping out a sign at the last minute — and doesn’t necessarily reflect the overall quality of the event’s management.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G board) thread “[Image] Korean commenter: “The Asian Games stadium signage is handwritten, I’m dying laughing lol”.”

  • Love Live! Fans Confess Who They Truly Stan (and Hate) — 5ch: ‘Aqours Fans Have the Best Manners, Hands Down’

    A thread on 5ch’s Love Live! board titled “Confess whether you’re really a stan or a hater” got fans openly admitting which entries in the franchise they adore and which ones they can’t stand. The Love Live! series runs multiple groups in parallel — from the original μ’s to Nijigasaki High School Idol Club, Liella!, and now the newest addition, Hasunosora Girls’ School Idol Club — which creates fertile ground for fans to split into “stans” and “haters” depending on which group they follow. The thread ranged widely, covering complaints about each fandom’s manners and the franchise’s business decisions, right down to comparisons of the casts’ looks.

    1AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:22
    Liella stan, Nijigasaki hater
    I love Liella so much that I end up contrarian-bashing it out of sheer devotion
    2AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:23
    I keep up with every single group
    4AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:35
    I'm not a hater, but I'm sick of the franchise's easy cash-grab strategy of cast concert tours
    In the end, even Hasunosora ("Tori") turned into just another "Live Live" too (a jab that it's become all concerts, no content)
    5AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:36
    Aqours stan, Nijigasaki hater
    To be precise, I'm not anti-Nijigasaki itself — I'm anti the Nijigasaki stans
    6AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:36
    Hasunosora ("Tori") stans are way too cringe
    7AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:37
    Aqours fans have the best manners, hands down
    8AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:38
    Aqours fans constantly whining and flexing their past glory at the newer, junior series? Their manners aren't so great either…
    9AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:41
    Anyone who says "I'm an anti of XX~" is themselves an anti
    15AnonymousSep 22, 2026 09:08
    Re: #9
    I'm the anti of whoever says "Anyone who says 'I'm an anti of XX~' is an anti" lmao
    30AnonymousSep 22, 2026 09:44
    Love Live stan for everything except Nijigasaki
    Just give it up — the Nijigasaki "uncles" (older male fans) are the enemy of Love Live
    33AnonymousSep 22, 2026 09:50
    I like Aimoto-san (a fan mashup nickname blending two cast members' names)
    36AnonymousSep 22, 2026 09:57
    Re: #33
    Honestly, she doesn't look all that much like either Sagara or Homocchi
    If anything, the girl in red looks more like Ho—

    Background and Talking Points

    The Love Live! franchise is defined by running multiple groups and titles side by side since the original μ’s launched in the 2010s — Aqours, Nijigasaki High School Idol Club, Liella!, and now the newest entry, Hasunosora Girls’ School Idol Club — which tends to split fan enthusiasm sharply along group lines. This thread drew a wide range of candid opinions about the temperature gap between fandoms, touching on everything from the casts’ live-concert strategies to comparisons with past entries. In the thread’s later half, though, the discussion drifted into spam posting on the board and moderation issues on other boards, straying from the original “confess your stan/anti status” premise — so this article omits that portion and focuses on the replies where fans spoke candidly about how they relate to each title.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Love Live!) thread “Confess whether you’re really a stan or a hater, since this thread’s gonna get deleted soon anyway.”

  • ‘Sienta driver = loser man’ claim draws backlash — 5ch says: “If you’ve got a family, aren’t you winning at life?”

    A thread on 5ch’s Nandemo Jikkyo G board claiming that “men who drive the Toyota Sienta are being mocked as losers” sparked a mixed reaction. The Sienta, a compact minivan with sliding doors, is especially popular with families raising kids, and many posters pushed back, arguing that “only people with families buy it, so if anything that makes them winners.” Others weighed in on the car’s design or reminisced about non-sliding-door models like the Cube and bB that have since disappeared from the market, turning the thread into a mix of genuine car talk and debate over whether the “loser man” label even makes sense.

    1AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:35
    lol (lit. "grass" — 5ch shorthand for laughing)
    3AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:36
    I drive my wife's Sienta sometimes…
    4AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:36
    Test drove one but the seats felt made for women and didn't fit me, so I passed.
    7AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:38
    It's spacious yet compact, so it's super practical.
    People who trash-talk it probably just think caring about functionality is uncool.
    10AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:39
    What kind of car actually screams "loser man," then?
    12AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:40
    I'm not into cars, so I've never once looked at someone's ride and thought that. Drive whatever you want, who cares.
    15AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:42
    I mean, a single guy driving a Sienta is definitely kind of pathetic though.
    16AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:42
    The back end of the Sienta really is kind of lame.
    17AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:42
    Pretty much only people with families drive it, so if anything that puts you on the winning side, no?
    23AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:43
    It acts like a 7-seater, but there's no way 7 people actually fit in that thing.
    26AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:45
    You see Sientas everywhere around town — clearly it's super popular.
    27AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:45
    It's just a family car.
    Driving something you specifically lowered the ride height on is way more embarrassing.
    28AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:45
    Meanwhile, the number of scrawny middle-aged guys climbing out of a Harrier (Toyota's flagship SUV), though.
    30AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:46
    With a wife and one or two kids, it's honestly pretty much a must-have.
    31AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:46
    It's a mystery how the Sienta became a massively popular car while the Cube just vanished.
    34AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:48
    Re: #31
    The Cube's seats were actually super comfortable.
    But a family car without sliding doors just didn't have a reason to exist anymore.
    50AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:54
    Re: #31
    The bB and the Ractis both sold like crazy too, and they're gone now as well.
    Only sliding-door cars survive these days.
    92AnonymousSep 22, 2026 09:21
    Re: #31
    Man, that takes me back.
    I used to drive a Cube — wish they'd bring it back with modern internals.
    36AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:49
    I've got two kids and the Sienta is honestly a godsend.
    My wife finds it easy to drive too.
    43AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:51
    Re: #36
    At the end of the day it gets treated as the second car, so that's probably why the thread title turns into "if a guy's driving it…"
    38AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:50
    Couldn't they make the Sienta's body look a bit cooler, though?
    40AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:50
    Parked next to an Alphard/Vellfire (Toyota's luxury minivans), the Sienta does look a bit shabby, gotta admit.
    41AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:50
    Still way more likable than some family acting all high and mighty in their Alphard/Vellfire.
    42AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:51
    Getting screamed at over just what car you drive… what a suffocating world we live in.
    44AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:51
    Funny how both types seem to always have slow, sluggish drivers behind the wheel.
    45AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:52
    It's all Alphards and Voxys around here lately — makes me think there are a lot of rich people about.
    51AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:54
    The Sienta's basically the family's second car, right?
    No idea why, but it's crazy popular with women.
    63AnonymousSep 22, 2026 09:01
    Re: #51
    It's pretty obvious why it's popular, honestly.
    58AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:59
    Honda was about the only one who could rip off the idea — couldn't Nissan have made something like it?
    62AnonymousSep 22, 2026 09:00
    Re: #58
    The Sienta itself is a ripoff of the Renault Kangoo, so there's no real need for Nissan to bother making one.
    80AnonymousSep 22, 2026 09:12
    Re: #58
    They already had the Cube3 to begin with.
    69AnonymousSep 22, 2026 09:04
    That's a car for college students.
    76AnonymousSep 22, 2026 09:08
    Re: #69
    How do you figure?
    Most people driving it have kids with them.
    What do you even look at on a daily basis?

    Background and Key Points

    The Sienta is a compact, sliding-door minivan from Toyota that has built strong demand among families with children thanks to its spacious back seats and easy handling. Rival models in the same class that lacked sliding doors — like the Cube, the bB, and the Ractis — have all disappeared from the lineup over the years, leaving sliding-door vans as the only survivors in this segment. The disagreement in the thread wasn’t really about the car itself, but about whether the premise “Sienta = a loser man’s car” holds up at all — commenters repeatedly pointed out that if the buyers are mostly people with families, the whole joke aimed at single men falls apart. At the same time, the car’s strong popularity among women drivers and comparisons with rivals like the Honda Freed and the Renault Kangoo also came up, making this less a pure flame war and more a discussion grounded in real-world usability.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Sad News] Guys who drive Sientas and the like get mocked by society too, lolololol.”

  • I=LOVE’s New MV Likes Drop from 100K to 41K — Fraud Controversy Erupts Online

    The YouTube “likes” count on I=LOVE’s (Ikoi-love) new single “Koi Hajimemashita” MV, reportedly at 100,000 as of September 19, later dropped to roughly 41,000 — sparking discussion on 5ch’s Hello! Project board. Thread posters brought up YouTube’s system of retroactively “correcting” like counts once fake or repeated likes are verified against real activity, and fans of rival groups began accusing each other of padding their numbers. Some posts raised questions by citing view counts broken down by country, and the discussion drifted from simple fact-checking into a full-blown back-and-forth with no resolution in sight.

    1AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:21
    I=LOVE
    "Koi Hajimemashita" MV Likes
    September 19 — 100K
    4AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:23
    Juice=Juice's turn is coming too lol
    9AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:25
    Re: #4
    No way that happens
    Juice=Juice's numbers are 100% organic
    5AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:23
    Wait, did something go down?
    8AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:24
    Re: #5
    If one person clicks it a bunch of times, it gets corrected back to the real count
    YouTube's had this system forever
    10AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:25
    Juice=Juice fans keep spam-clicking it solo
    Their correction's coming next
    12AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:28
    Re: #10
    Exactly
    It's basically grandpa's daily routine at this point
    Those old guys have nothing else to do, so they just click away in their free time
    35AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:49
    Re: #10
    Clicking it a bunch of times by yourself doesn't even raise the count though
    Also if you unlike/relike it resets to no rating, so you'd need to click an odd number of times
    11AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:26
    Our "offshore guy" will sort it out lol
    14AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:29
    I've reported it to YouTube multiple times already
    Juice=Juice's cheating, that is
    18AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:34
    Sad how hard they're self-boosting and still nobody's buying it
    20AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:35
    There are tons of tweets on X calling out Juice=Juice's cheating
    23AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:37
    The copy-paste grandpa describing himself, lol
    24AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:37
    That's some nasty cheating
    Juice=Juice's turn is next
    25AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:37
    Weren't I=LOVE fans just gloating about their like count?
    What now?
    27AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:38
    Juice=Juice fans better sit tight and be scared
    The big correction's coming
    28AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:38
    Even if the number bounces back
    The fact it got flagged as spam once doesn't just disappear
    31AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:39
    Also there's a penalty for the side doing the duplicate clicking
    I bet the Juice=Juice old-timers are in for a pretty harsh one
    32AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:43
    Those old guys must be shaking in their boots right about now
    34AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:47
    Nogizaka… er, Nomi (=LOVE)'s 91K is probably padded too
    I bet people bought in thinking likes mattered more than views this time
    36AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:51
    Apparently every repeated click gets reported straight to head office now
    38AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:53
    It was only around 40K to begin with — OP's just lying lol
    40AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:53
    Re: #38
    Getting scared and running off into denial
    46AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:58
    Re: #40
    You're the one in denial here
    48AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:58
    Re: #46
    "It was only 40K to begin with," lmaooo sure
    49AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:59
    I don't get how you'd even inflate the like count
    I'd get it if it dropped along with the view count
    56AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:17
    Meanwhile, over in our camp
    So proud right now
    This is all 100% organic, right?

    71AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:25
    Re: #56
    That like count's way too high lol
    There's a real chance they're doing it too lol
    65AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:23
    Anyway, once stuff like this comes out
    You can't trust any of these numbers as a metric anymore
    Then again, every idol group does this, so none of them are trustworthy to begin with
    68AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:24
    Re: #65
    That's Juice=Juice to a T
    Not a single one of their numbers can be trusted
    72AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:25
    Re: #65
    That's Juice=Juice to a T
    Not a single one of their numbers can be trusted

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    YouTube is known to retroactively correct view and like counts when it detects unnatural patterns, such as the same user rapidly clicking repeatedly in a short span of time, and the thread’s talk of numbers being “corrected to reflect real activity” appears to refer to this mechanism. That said, the reported change from 100,000 to 41,000 is based solely on the original poster’s own observation — no official statement from YouTube or independent verification has been presented. Disputes over idol MV view and like counts, with fans of different groups accusing each other of “padding the numbers,” are a recurring sight across idol-related boards on 5ch, and discussions like this one typically play out through speculation and wishful thinking rather than hard evidence — this thread being a textbook example.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “[Bad News] I=LOVE’s Latest MV Likes Slashed from 100K to 41K.”

  • Ruri Hiromoto: “Tokyo Doesn’t Have Rivers — Hiroshima’s Ota River Is the Real Thing”

    Hello! Project idol Ruri Hiromoto, speaking fondly at a talk show during “Hiro Fes 2026” held in her hometown of Hiroshima about returning home after a long absence, sparked a debate on the 5channel Hello! Project discussion board over “which is the real river — Tokyo’s rivers or Hiroshima’s Ota River.” In the thread, some pushed back by naming Tokyo rivers like the Sumida, Tama, and Arakawa (“those are proper rivers too!”), while others defended Hiroshima by pointing to how the Ota River system branches like a web through the city center. Before long it had turned into a casual debate over what actually makes a river feel like a “real” river.

    1AnonymousSep 22, 2026 05:55
    ・Hiromoto, Nishizaki, and Kitahara appeared at the Hiro Fes 2026 talk show
    Hiromoto: I felt all sorts of things, coming back to Hiroshima after so long and getting to do an event here in Hiroshima
    3AnonymousSep 22, 2026 05:58
    https://tabetainjya.com/img/1909/rivermap.gif

    Hiroshima's city center is just packed with rivers
    5AnonymousSep 22, 2026 06:01
    The more people move to Tokyo, the stronger their hometown pride gets
    "One's hometown is best thought of from afar" (a famous line by poet Ishikawa Takuboku)
    6AnonymousSep 22, 2026 06:09
    Tsutsui: "Tokyo's the best, lololol"
    26AnonymousSep 22, 2026 06:58
    Re: #6
    Saga, though… (his/her actual hometown — implying it can't compete)
    52AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:03
    Re: #6
    Nakayama: "Only Tokyo wins, lololol"
    8AnonymousSep 22, 2026 06:09
    Honestly, rivers are safer once you fill them in
    9AnonymousSep 22, 2026 06:10
    Hiroshima's city center used to have 7 rivers, but one was filled in for flood control, leaving 6
    10AnonymousSep 22, 2026 06:14
    Roko-chan only brings up Yobuko squid once in a while
    meanwhile her castmate Marin Fukuda pushed her hometown hard and landed a promotional gig for Hasami ware (a pottery style)
    11AnonymousSep 22, 2026 06:15
    Isn't the Furukawa — aka the Shibuya River — a river too? Is that one fake?
    12AnonymousSep 22, 2026 06:15
    >Hiromoto, Nishizaki, and Kitahara appeared at the Hiro Fes 2026 talk show


    Hiromoto → from Hiroshima
    Nishizaki → from neighboring Okayama
    Kitahara → actually born in Fukuyama, Hiroshima Prefecture
    13AnonymousSep 22, 2026 06:16
    So the river running by the familiar Ueno Gakuen Hall is the Honkawa (the old Ota River)?
    15AnonymousSep 22, 2026 06:25
    It's nothing like Tokyo's sewage-ditch rivers
    54AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:05
    Re: #15
    Hiroshima's rivers are dirtier, if anything
    17AnonymousSep 22, 2026 06:33
    I used to live near the Sumida River, and that's definitely a river — back in the Edo period, people walked those banks bantering with drunk rich guys arriving by riverboat on their way to the Yoshiwara red-light district
    19AnonymousSep 22, 2026 06:36
    Well, the rivers in Tokyo that actually feel like real rivers are
    pretty much just the Tama, Arakawa, Nakagawa, and Edogawa
    28AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:06
    Ruri says there's no river in Tokyo,
    says she wants to see a real river.
    Startled, I look at the river.
    There amid the young cherry leaves
    is the inseparable,
    familiar old filthy Sumida River.
    The blur of the hazy horizon
    is the pale-pink dampness of morning.
    Ruri, gazing into the distance, says
    that the Ota River flowing
    through the city of Hiroshima every day
    is Ruri's real river.
    It's an artless little story about a river.
    (A parody of Takamura Kōtarō's famous poem "Chieko-shō," in which Chieko longs for the real sky of her hometown instead of Tokyo's.)
    34AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:18
    Re: #28
    The real-life woman behind Chieko-shō actually had a mental breakdown living in Tokyo… and wanted to go home to see the "real sky"
    32AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:15
    Even in Tokyo, as long as there's a riverbank it can look like a proper river
    ・Arakawa
    ・Tama River
    ・Edogawa
    43AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:46
    Re: #32
    Those three have a lot of greenery too, so even though it's Tokyo you get black kites flying overhead, plus raccoon dogs and otters. Going out to those rivers actually feels like seeing a real river
    I was born and raised in central Tokyo, but the one near me feels more like a moat than a river
    36AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:26
    The Sumida River is about the right size to feel like a river
    the Arakawa and Tama are too huge, and the rest feel like drainage ditches
    50AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:01
    Re: #36
    So too big is no good either?
    38AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:34
    That's more of a canal than a river, honestly
    41AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:38
    Re: #38
    Ah, that — well, people outside Hiroshima are surprised it even has a tidal ebb and flow
    39AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:35
    Reading threads like this makes me realize
    there are actually quite a few people on Ookami (the Hello! Project fan board) who can instantly connect it to Chieko-shō — impressive
    55AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:05
    Re: #39
    I'm from the generation that had Chieko-shō in our school textbooks
    wonder if it's still in there these days
    40AnonymousSep 22, 2026 07:36
    The Arakawa's water level is actually higher than the surrounding land, and yet it doesn't flood much
    51AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:01
    Re: #40
    That's because the Arakawa has a massive reservoir called Lake Saiko backing it up
    53AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:04
    Tokyo's got plenty of rivers too, I can't tell the difference from the Ota River

    Hiroshima's Ota River


    Tama River


    Arakawa


    Edogawa


    Nakagawa
    56AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:06
    I learned in school that Hiroshima has 7 rivers
    60AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:09
    Re: #56
    Were you in school before 1968 (Showa 43)?
    57AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:06
    It's not about any single river
    Hiroshima's rivers are packed densely into that narrow plain, so walking through the city you're bound to run into one
    in Hiroshima a river is just always part of daily life
    Tokyo is so much bigger than Hiroshima that you don't get to see a river as often day-to-day
    59AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:08
    Re: #57
    Still, Hiroshima's about as big as Tokyo's 23 wards
    62AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:12
    Hiroshima's rivers
    66AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:14
    Re: #62
    Nice
    the islands of the Seto Inland Sea
    63AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:12
    Hiroshima's upper reaches are all mountains
    water flows down into the Ota River from a huge mountain in Shimane
    it's just that right at the very end, downstream, it splits into 7
    well, 6 now
    64AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:13
    Re: #63
    Right
    it only splits at the very last stretch
    70AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:24
    If you go out to the old downtown area there are plenty of big rivers though —
    Sumida River, Arakawa, Edogawa
    72AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:26
    Re: #70
    Apparently the Sumida River doesn't count

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    The Ota River rises in the Chugoku Mountains and forms a delta just before reaching central Hiroshima, historically splitting into 7 channels — now 6, after one was filled in — before emptying into the Seto Inland Sea. The sheer density of these branches, so thick that you run into one wherever you walk in the city, is the source of Hiroshima’s reputation as a “city of rivers.” The Sumida and Meguro Rivers, meanwhile, are tidal rivers that ultimately connect to the genuine, officially designated Arakawa and Tama river systems, but decades of urbanization and concrete embankments have left them with more of a “drainage ditch” image. What split the thread was where to draw the line on what counts as a “real” river: the Hiroshima side pointed to density and closeness to daily life, while the Tokyo side cited the sheer scale of the Arakawa and Tama. Several posts also noted — as a fact that surprises people outside Hiroshima — that the mouth of the Ota River is tidal, with a genuine ebb and flow.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (Hello! Project board) thread “[Sad News] Ruri Hiromoto: “Tokyo has no rivers,” “Neither the Meguro River nor the Sumida River are real rivers — the Ota River flowing through Hiroshima is the real river”.”

  • ‘I Can’t Bear to Watch Uber Delivery Riders’ — Is Capitalism Cruel? 5ch Weighs In

    A thread on 5ch’s freewheeling “Nandemo Jikkyo G” (general live-chat) board asked whether capitalism is simply too cruel, after the original poster watched Uber Eats and other delivery riders pedaling around town on their bikes. The poster floated “mild capitalism” as an alternative, but replies quickly pushed back, citing the realities of communist states and the inequality baked into American society. The discussion spread to historical points about how humans have traded and divided labor since the hunter-gatherer era, and speculation about whether AI will widen or narrow the wealth gap going forward. Opinions on delivery work itself ended up split right down the middle.

    1AnonymousSep 22, 2026 05:42
    Yeah, I'll admit that's rough to watch
    2AnonymousSep 22, 2026 05:43
    So what would an ideal society even look like, then?
    5AnonymousSep 22, 2026 05:45
    Re: #2
    Not sure, but something like 'mild capitalism,' I guess
    7AnonymousSep 22, 2026 05:47
    The old misconception that communism makes life easier
    You just get hit with brutal quotas and exploited instead
    9AnonymousSep 22, 2026 05:47
    Re: #7
    There's also a misconception that capitalism doesn't have quotas either
    10AnonymousSep 22, 2026 05:48
    Maybe we don't feel that way about taxi drivers because we're used to seeing them napping peacefully in their cars
    22AnonymousSep 22, 2026 05:53
    Re: #10
    True, taxis don't really trigger that feeling
    11AnonymousSep 22, 2026 05:48
    Isn't delivery work mostly a side gig for most people doing it?
    49AnonymousSep 22, 2026 06:12
    Re: #11
    Used to be
    Now it's people's main job
    13AnonymousSep 22, 2026 05:49
    I don't really think it's pitiable — what happens to other people isn't my problem
    16AnonymousSep 22, 2026 05:50
    Re: #13
    It is cruel though — your rank in life gets decided by money alone, and people with money never spare a thought for how hard the people below them are working
    17AnonymousSep 22, 2026 05:51
    You get these clueless Japanese people who go to China
    saying, 'It's so convenient here, everything gets delivered to your door with just one smartphone'
    but they conveniently forget
    that it only works because of countless delivery workers
    18AnonymousSep 22, 2026 05:52
    Re: #17
    You might want to choose your words more carefully
    20AnonymousSep 22, 2026 05:52
    Still better than the old feudal system, though, right?
    82AnonymousSep 22, 2026 06:41
    Re: #20
    Structurally, sure, I guess
    Back then everything you did was dictated for you
    And honestly, now is the golden age for the ruling class too — old-time royalty actually had to go to the battlefield, but today's elites start wars while keeping themselves safely out of harm's way
    24AnonymousSep 22, 2026 05:53
    Just look at America, the most advanced capitalist society there is
    That's where capitalism ends up
    Of course Trump got elected — it was inevitable
    26AnonymousSep 22, 2026 05:54
    Re: #24
    How is that any different?
    48AnonymousSep 22, 2026 06:11
    Re: #24
    Still better than the Soviet Union or Cambodia, which actually tried to be communist
    27AnonymousSep 22, 2026 05:55
    No need to treat them like some object of pity
    28AnonymousSep 22, 2026 05:55
    Re: #27
    At least nobody's doing that job because they actually want to, right?
    29AnonymousSep 22, 2026 05:56
    No matter how hard guys like us work, lifetime earnings top out at maybe 300 million yen (~$2M) if we're lucky
    And that's after pouring most of our lives into labor
    31AnonymousSep 22, 2026 05:58
    Re: #29
    300 million's plenty for me — how much do you want?
    If you want more than that, why not start a company like Maezawa or Son did? (famous Japanese entrepreneurs)
    35AnonymousSep 22, 2026 06:00
    People really need to stop unconsciously looking down on blue-collar workers
    Once your basic humanity gets called into question, it's over for you
    36AnonymousSep 22, 2026 06:02
    Re: #35
    Uh, I am blue-collar
    39AnonymousSep 22, 2026 06:05
    Honestly, Japan is basically the ideal capitalist society
    It's kind to the weak, so prices stay low

    Though those low prices only work because workers' wages (labor costs) are kept down lol
    So basically Japan
    maintains a low-cost society by having everyone work for low pay
    which is exactly what lets old folks and people on welfare (namapo, slang for public assistance recipients) avoid ending up homeless
    41AnonymousSep 22, 2026 06:07
    I did 'side-FIRE' and drive for Uber now (side-FIRE: retiring early while keeping some income on the side)
    Nobody bossing me around, working whenever I feel like it for as long as I want — that's a genuine luxury
    43AnonymousSep 22, 2026 06:09
    Re: #41
    See, now you're even lying just to keep your self-esteem intact
    45AnonymousSep 22, 2026 06:10
    Re: #41
    More like communism in a delivery box
    47AnonymousSep 22, 2026 06:11
    Once AI surpasses humans in every field, an equally prosperous communism for everyone might not be such a pipe dream
    53AnonymousSep 22, 2026 06:16
    Re: #47
    AI is a tool for rich people to use — workers are just going to lose their jobs
    I can only see a future where the poor become an even bigger class
    57AnonymousSep 22, 2026 06:18
    Humans have been capitalist since the days of hunting and bartering — this is just the default state
    64AnonymousSep 22, 2026 06:23
    Re: #57
    Were there people back then who got meat without hunting for it themselves?
    68AnonymousSep 22, 2026 06:28
    Re: #64
    Sure there were
    Dividing up different jobs based on who's suited for what has been going on since the Yayoi period (roughly 300 BC–300 AD)
    75AnonymousSep 22, 2026 06:35
    Re: #64
    There's confirmed evidence that trading-company-like middlemen existed as far back as Mesopotamia
    Something like, 'I'll tell you where the good hunting grounds are, so hand over a cut of what you catch in return'
    78AnonymousSep 22, 2026 06:39
    Sure, capitalism has its cruel side, but I don't think Uber drivers specifically have it that bad
    Seems like it works fine as a way to earn money using your spare time
    81AnonymousSep 22, 2026 06:40
    Re: #78
    But what if it were your own parent doing Uber?

    Dressed all shabby, riding some grimy bike
    92AnonymousSep 22, 2026 06:49
    Re: #78
    I use it sometimes, but it kind of makes me feel guilty

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    The question of whether capitalism is “cruel” is a theme that keeps resurfacing on 5ch, but this time it was triggered by something close to home: food delivery work. What stood out in the thread was how sharply opinions split along the same axis — whether to view delivery work as “exploited, miserable labor” or as “flexible work that lets you set your own hours” — with people reading the very same job in completely opposite ways. Many defended capitalism by pointing to the failures of communist states (the Soviet Union, Cambodia, and so on), but this framing simplifies things down to “the only alternative to capitalism is a historical communist state,” and there was little discussion of reformist paths like the “mild capitalism” the original poster raised at the outset. Economically testable topics also came up, such as the ceiling on lifetime earnings and the relationship between prices and wages, but it’s worth noting that within the thread these were argued purely from personal impression rather than verified data.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “Isn’t capitalism just too cruel? I can’t stand watching Uber riders on bikes.”

  • Toshiro Yanagiba Finally Explains the Truth Behind His ‘Feud’ With Yuji Oda: ‘That’s Not How You’d Act This Scene’

    Yuji Oda and Toshiro Yanagiba co-starred in dramas like Furimukeba Yatsu ga Iru (If You Look Back, He’s There), and rumors of a rift between the two have persisted for years. Now Yanagiba himself has revealed the truth on a TV program. Back when he was a young actor, Oda reportedly pulled him aside during a scene and said, “Isn’t that acting wrong?” — and Yanagiba admits he held onto that comment for the entire run of the show. On 5ch, users weighed in with all kinds of takes, from anecdotes backing up just how obsessive Oda was about his craft (he allegedly had the final scene’s script rewritten) to stories about how sharp-edged Oda’s personality was back then.

    3AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:58
    Yanagiba: "I guess I was young too — I just held onto that feeling the whole time we were shooting the TV series."
    Oda: "Hmm… I see."
    4AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:58
    This is the same Oda who wasn't satisfied with the ending of Furimukeba Yatsu ga Iru and had the producer get the script rewritten.
    6AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:59
    The fact that they can say this stuff publicly means it can't be that fatal a rift.
    7AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:00
    Oda really was sharp-edged back then, though.
    9AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:01
    So is it even really a 'feud,' or was it just Yanagiba who had it in for him?
    10AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:01
    Oda really does speak his mind wherever he is, huh.
    11AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:02
    You can't dive into the sea without holding your breath.
    12AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:03
    I was watching Nep League and he said Furimukeba Yatsu ga Iru is his favorite.
    13AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:03
    That's literally exactly the reason everyone always rumored lol
    14AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:05
    Because of that, they barely let them cross paths — kept them split between the meeting room and location shoots.
    15AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:05
    Oda of Morning Musume is arrogant too, but… (a different Oda — Sakura Oda of the idol group Morning Musume)
    16AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:06
    Thanks to the World Athletics broadcasts, it's good to know he's actually a cheerful, easygoing guy underneath.
    If you didn't know his real personality and just heard a story like this, you'd think he was some arrogant, scary guy.
    17AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:08
    Oda's turning into Shigeru Matsuzaki (a singer famous for his flamboyant, larger-than-life image) at this point.
    18AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:08
    Well, personally I'm not a fan of either of their acting styles lol
    22AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:13
    Sounds exactly like something Oda would say — and also exactly like something he'd forget he ever said.
    29AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:17
    Better for everyone if he just pretends he doesn't remember.
    30AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:20
    Takuya Kimura and Kiyoto Hagiwara recently made up over something similar — in that case Hagiwara apologized and admitted he really had said it.
    58AnonymousSep 22, 2026 00:23
    Re: #30
    So the guy Kimura said he disliked for talking nonstop about pachinko, and the one always playing mahjong — that was Hagiwara?
    31AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:21
    Didn't Oda get furious at a comedian doing an impression of him and nearly sue over it?
    33AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:23
    Re: #31
    That impressionist actually appeared in this movie and did the impression right in front of Oda, over and over.
    34AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:23
    Both Yuji Oda and Kiyoto Hagiwara were popular enough that they could get away with saying stuff like that.
    These days young actors talk back without even having real popularity, just riding on their agency's backing.
    35AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:24
    I think Kentaro Hagiwara is more interesting than Shunsaku Aoshima.
    I like Takumi Kai more than Shinji Muroi.
    37AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:25
    Re: #35
    Okane ga Nai! (No Money!) is up on TVer right now — I've been rewatching it and it's still great.
    39AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:27
    Re: #37
    It's great. Even the supporting cast all bring real flavor to it.
    40AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:31
    Re: #39
    Honestly, all of Fuji TV's light, fun dramas from that era were good — Reiko Shiratori, Okane ga Nai!, Shomuni, Nurse no Oshigoto, stuff like that.
    41AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:31
    The fact that they hid the Muroi movie from Oda pretty much confirms he refused to co-star.
    And Eri Fukatsu not being in it is probably because Oda refused too.
    53AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:57
    Oda's the real deal — he doesn't belong to any faction, runs his own solo agency, total lone wolf.
    He sticks strictly to only taking jobs he personally believes in.
    65AnonymousSep 22, 2026 00:32
    Re: #53
    Heard he only takes lead roles.
    57AnonymousSep 22, 2026 00:23
    Re: #55
    Something about how when Hamada (comedian Masatoshi Hamada of Downtown) started appearing in dramas and greeted him on set, Oda just flat-out ignored him.
    63AnonymousSep 22, 2026 00:31
    Re: #57
    Ignoring Hamada — that's bold of Oda.
    62AnonymousSep 22, 2026 00:30
    Furimukeba Yatsu ga Iru was such a good drama.
    64AnonymousSep 22, 2026 00:32
    Re: #62
    Sounds like he's on bad terms with Ken Ishiguro too.
    67AnonymousSep 22, 2026 00:32
    I wonder what it's like between Oda and Koji Matoba.
    70AnonymousSep 22, 2026 00:36
    Re: #67
    I think Matoba was actually on set when Hamada got ignored. I remember them talking about it on Downtown DX.
    83AnonymousSep 22, 2026 00:42
    Hamada was genuinely good as an actor, though. I liked him in Ryoma ni Omakase. Funny how he's super close with Takeshi Naito, though lol
    86AnonymousSep 22, 2026 00:43
    Re: #83
    His role as a loan-shark debt collector in that drama with Kimutaku (Takuya Kimura) was actually really good. His performance as a guy fresh out of prison who'd turned into an alcoholic wreck was impressive lol
    85AnonymousSep 22, 2026 00:42
    '90s drama actors were apparently only interested in sleeping with actresses and making money, so sets were rough. Sounds like without a genuinely scary veteran around to keep order, people just did whatever they wanted and things didn't run smoothly.
    91AnonymousSep 22, 2026 00:46
    Re: #85
    Out of the '80s and '90s, the comedians were probably the worst offenders.
    95AnonymousSep 22, 2026 00:50
    Back then it was totally normal for comedians and idols to get ignored — comedians didn't have the status they do now. I recall Nakai saying he had constant clashes on Aji Ichimonme too.

    Background and Key Points

    Yuji Oda and Toshiro Yanagiba co-starred in 1990s dramas such as Furimukeba Yatsu ga Iru, and rumors of a rift between the pair have resurfaced repeatedly ever since. With Yanagiba now explaining the story himself, it’s become clear the rumor originated from a disagreement over acting guidance back when he was a young actor. In the thread, users piled on with anecdotes reinforcing just how obsessive Oda was about his craft — including the claim that he had the final scene’s script rewritten — alongside stories about other actors from the same era, with plenty of commenters nostalgic for the atmosphere on 1990s TV sets. That said, claims like Oda ignoring a greeting on set remain unconfirmed hearsay rather than something either party has publicly acknowledged.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from excerpts of the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Yanagiba Reveals the Truth Behind the Rumored Feud With Yuji Oda: ‘Oda Told Me, Isn’t That Acting Wrong?’“

  • Osaka Ramen Falls Flat? 5ch Says ‘Even the Famous Shops Are Just Average’

    A thread titled “Osaka’s Ramen Game Is Too Weak” popped up on 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyo G” board and sparked a lively debate. Posters brought up ramen scenes from all over Japan — Yamagata, Niigata, Tokyo, Kyoto, Hokkaido, and more — as they argued over just how good Osaka’s ramen shops really are. Some said “Osaka just has Kyoto ramen shops that expanded here,” or that chains like Kappa and Kamukura are satisfying enough, while others pushed back with specific shop names, highlighting just how divided opinions were.

    1AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:19
    Seriously, there isn't any.
    6AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:24
    Which prefecture has the strongest ramen game?
    8AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:25
    Re: #6
    Yamagata, Niigata, Tokyo
    10AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:27
    Can't be helped — there are way more food options than just ramen there.
    Actually it's weird that people in Tokyo, which has tons of restaurants, are so obsessed with ramen specifically.
    63AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:14
    Re: #10
    Obviously because every shop there sucks lol
    11AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:28
    Kyoto's one of the top ramen battlegrounds in the whole country.
    Only Hokkaido or Niigata are even in the same league.
    35AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:48
    Re: #11
    Niigata ramen is good, but is Hokkaido really that great? It might just be a "battleground" because there are so many shops, not because they're good.
    17AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:30
    There's seriously no Iekei (Yokohama-style tonkotsu-shoyu ramen) here.
    I don't want to go to that place under Odoya where the staff cosplay as construction workers.
    21AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:32
    Re: #17
    Yoshikawa, part of the Akutagawa lineage, is still one of the better ones
    23AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:33
    Hokkaido's seen as a fierce ramen battleground, but it's really just Yamaokaya's one-man show.
    That's why there aren't many shops worth talking about.
    28AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:36
    Re: #23
    I see Houryu around a lot
    25AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:33
    Mugi to Mensuke (Nakatsu)
    Ramen Jinsei JET (Fukushima)
    Tsumugi (Ibaraki)
    Hayato (Minami-Morimachi)
    Moeyo Mensuke (Fukushima)
    Sora no Hoshi (Senbayashi)
    Rekishi wo Kizame (Kami-Shinjo)
    Jinrui Mina Menrui (Nishi-Nakajima)
    Buta no Hoshi (Amagasaki)
    Sanku (Fukushima)
    Jikon (Sumido)
    45AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:55
    Re: #25
    Sorry, but isn't that a pretty low level? Feels like it's about 1.8 laps behind Tokyo.
    72AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:19
    Basically, if you eat ramen shops in Osaka that made it big in Kyoto first and then expanded here, it's good.
    No need to make your own — just leave it to Kyoto.
    The shops on Re: #25's list are good at business but the taste is just average.
    Jinrui Mina Menrui ("All Humankind Is Noodles") is genuinely great at exposure and promotion, but the taste is more like "…huh?" Not bad, just average.
    There ARE genuinely great ramen shops based in Osaka, but none of them made that list.
    That's a relief.
    32AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:42
    Re: #30
    Doesn't a lot of Osaka ramen just taste like thinned-out udon noodles?
    33AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:45
    Re: #32
    You clearly haven't actually eaten it lol (i.e. talking big without real experience)
    38AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:49
    Kyoto's only got Fukusaikan, so why's it acting so high and mighty?
    73AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:19
    Re: #38
    There's also Shikura, though it's closed indefinitely
    48AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:59
    Kansai people are satisfied with chains anyway.
    They're not that particular about ramen itself, so Tenichi, Kappa, Zundo, Kairiki Yokozuna, Makotoya, Kamukura, and Marugen are plenty for them.
    50AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:01
    Re: #48
    Is there even a Tokyo-founded chain that's better than Kappa?
    59AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:12
    Osaka seriously has no good ramen shops.
    Even the famous ones are just average.
    61AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:14
    Re: #59
    Outside Osaka, where's actually good then?
    65AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:16
    Re: #61
    Tokyo.
    And I mean the famous shops, not the average level.
    68AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:17
    Re: #65
    Tokyo's actually famous for bad food though
    69AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:18
    Re: #65
    Got any specific shop names?
    76AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:20
    In a good way, Kappa is honestly enough.
    80AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:23
    Re: #76
    Miyako Soba's shoyu ramen is great.
    The obaachan pulls out a packet of concentrated ready-made ramen soup right in front of you, cuts it open, pours in hot water, and makes your ramen — and honestly, it's just genuinely good lol
    84AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:25
    Re: #76
    Kappa isn't creative, but there's something good about a simple, rich tonkotsu.
    There aren't that many places doing a really rich tonkotsu.
    79AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:23
    Seriously, people who say "such-and-such is way better!" just to trash-talk in threads like this never actually name the shop, huh.
    81AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:24
    Re: #79
    No way I'm giving that up lol
    Info on Osaka's good ramen shops is my secret treasure.
    Though the people who already know, know.
    86AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:25
    Re: #79
    Even if I name a specific shop, people would just pile on to trash it anyway.
    Just go check the top-ranked shops on a ramen database.
    89AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:26
    Oh, here's an Osaka ramen tier list for ya 💁‍♂
    96AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:29
    Re: #89
    The fact that Kamukura isn't on it makes it seem trustworthy
    116AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:36
    Re: #89
    Kadoya Shokudo is S-tier?! Lolololol
    A tier list where Kadoya Shokudo is S-tier lol
    I'll say this much, Kadoya isn't bad.
    But S-tier? lol
    100AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:30
    I like Takaida-style ramen.
    Ramen should be that junky and cheap.
    121AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:40
    Re: #100
    If you eat that stuff, you've got no right to complain that Tokyo soba broth is too dark.
    119AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:39
    Re: #100
    I want to try it once.
    I like that style made for construction workers who sweat a ton on the job.
    123AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:41
    Re: #119
    I've had it, and it makes you go "this is all ramen really needs to be."

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Ramen ratings are a subjective topic heavily shaped by personal taste, and it’s worth noting that in this thread, the standard for a “famous shop” and the regions used for comparison varied from poster to poster. Points like Kyoto ramen shops expanding into Osaka, and comments that chains like Kappa, Kamukura, and Tenichi are satisfying enough, were often tied to Osaka’s distinctive “konamon” (flour-based food) culture and its sheer abundance of dining options, with many citing factors beyond taste itself. At the same time there was pushback, with comments like “even the famous shops are just average” and “criticism that doesn’t name specific shops isn’t convincing.” In the end, the discussion largely stayed at the level of gut-feeling comparisons. Note that this article simply introduces individual opinions from within the thread and isn’t based on objective evidence like statistical surveys.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “Osaka’s Ramen Game Is Too Weak.”

  • “Nagoya’s a Car Town, So Trains Must Be Scarce” — Guy Checks the Timetable, Sparks a 5ch Debate

    A post that checked the train timetable based on the assumption “Nagoya’s a car-dependent city, so trains must run infrequently” became a hot topic on 5ch. In reality, Nagoya’s subway network — led by the Higashiyama Line — turns out to be quite well developed, undermining the simple idea that a car-centric city automatically means sparse trains. The thread saw detailed comparisons of service frequency with other cities like Tokyo, Osaka, and Yokohama, along with discussion of stations such as Fujigaoka and Gokiso and access to Chubu Centrair International Airport, with opinions split over just how good or bad Nagoya’s transit really is.

    See the source for the image

    Source: x.com / Original post here

    11AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:42

    Nagoya's subway system is actually pretty well developed
    26AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:48
    Re: #11
    I don't know much about it, but is Gokiso supposed to be the liveliest area around there?
    27AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:48
    Re: #11
    With a subway network this convenient, saying you can't live without a car is being way too soft
    38AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:52
    Re: #11
    This shows Nagoya Station is actually stuck way out on the edge of the city
    18AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:44
    Seriously nobody cares, but it's always "Nagoya this, Nagoya that"
    19AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:45
    Re: #18
    Nah, I'm super into this lol
    22AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:46
    Is there even anything at Fujigaoka?
    28AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:48
    Re: #22
    It's basically the transfer point for the Linimo maglev line
    29AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:48
    Re: #22
    Kind of like Tokyo's Hikarigaoka or Azamino
    30AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:49
    Re: #22
    It connects to the Linimo line
    36AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:50
    That's dumb — I've lived in Tokyo, Osaka, and Nagoya for work transfers, and Nagoya's trains are overwhelmingly worse.
    The Higashiyama Line cited as the source is Nagoya's #1 subway "spiral,"
    but Tokyo's Tozai Line and Osaka's Midosuji Line run about 30 trains at rush hour — more than double the Higashiyama Line.
    40AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:52
    Re: #36
    Lmao, the subway's spinning in circles (mocking the previous poster's typo — they wrote "spiral" instead of "line")
    56AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:01
    Re: #36
    Are you some kind of masochist who wants to ride packed trains?
    42AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:53
    According to Tokyo people, apparently everything except the Higashiyama Line at rush hour runs pretty infrequently
    45AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:54
    Re: #42
    Yeah, true
    The Meijo Line and others aren't all that frequent either
    52AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:59
    This morning too, nobody even asked but people started bragging hard about how solid Nagoya's flood control is — annoying
    57AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:02
    Re: #52
    Yeah, the places that actually get flood damage are more like Mie and Gifu — you don't hear about it much in Nagoya
    62AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:10
    The Blue Line was about this frequent too, I think
    Though I don't live a life where checking the timetable is even a problem in the first place
    68AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:15
    Re: #62
    The Blue Line runs once every 10 minutes during the day
    Rush-hour Blue Line = daytime Higashiyama Line
    Well, the cities are different sizes so that's to be expected
    Yokohama's doing its best too
    64AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:12
    Re: #61
    "City center" lol
    Like, an AEON mall or something? lol (AEON — a big-box shopping mall chain)
    69AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:16
    Re: #64
    Do you really want to turn the area right outside your house into a tourist spot?
    If you want sightseeing, you drive out of the prefecture
    That's how Nagoya people do it
    70AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:20
    Contrary to the image people have, it's Toyota City where the rail network is actually well developed
    They're managing well even without JR
    71AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:21
    Re: #70
    The Aichi Loop Line is basically JR in practice
    72AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:22
    Someone's having a meltdown over here, what happened to this guy
    73AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:23
    Re: #72
    Probably someone from Chiba, losing it comparing flooding to Nagoya
    81AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:35
    I'm from a neighboring prefecture, but I've thought this for a while —
    isn't it weird that you can't get to Chubu Centrair International Airport by train?
    Roads can get delayed however much from traffic jams,
    so it's way too inconvenient
    Worst case you miss your flight
    82AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:36
    Re: #81
    You can get there by train, what are you talking about
    84AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:38
    Re: #81
    You're clearly not actually from a neighboring prefecture
    Even people from nearby prefectures know Nagoya's Meitetsu line is well developed
    86AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:42
    Re: #81
    And the highway to Chubu Centrair doesn't even get congested, you know?
    94AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:57
    Nagoya's got a good balance in everything — people, housing, roads, transit, disaster risk
    95AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:58
    Re: #94
    You'd die if a Nankai Trough quake or a huge tsunami hit though…
    97AnonymousSep 21, 2026 23:01
    Re: #94
    Except since it's sandwiched between Tokyo and Osaka, nobody really bothers to go all the way to Nagoya

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Nagoya’s public transit is often described as having “few trains because it’s a car-dependent city,” but what sparked this discussion was the actual timetable, centered on the subway’s Higashiyama Line. In the thread, some posts compared rush-hour frequency with Tokyo’s Tozai Line and Osaka’s Midosuji Line, pointing out that in absolute terms Nagoya doesn’t match the major lines of the biggest cities. On the other hand, many comments highlighted ways the Nagoya area’s rail network is actually quite developed — the connection between Fujigaoka and the Linimo maglev line, and the state of the Aichi Loop Railway, for example. The debate moved away from a simple “more or less” binary and toward how to evaluate differences in city scale and the role each line plays. What readers can easily get wrong is that the common image of “Nagoya equals car society” doesn’t necessarily match the actual state of its subway development — and this thread put that assumption to the test using the hard data of a timetable.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nanademo Jikkyou G) thread “[Image] Me: “Nagoya? It’s car country so trains must be infrequent” → I checked the timetable and…“.