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  • Despite Annual Health Screenings, Colorectal Cancer Reaches Stage 4 — Debate Over the Limits of Testing

    Even though he had gotten a “ningen dock” (Japan’s comprehensive health screening) every year, his colorectal cancer wasn’t found until stage 4, by which point surgery was no longer an option — this survivor’s story was reported and became a hot topic on 5ch. The blame centered on the fecal occult blood test commonly used in these screenings, which tends to miss lesions that aren’t actively bleeding. The thread saw both claims that “a colonoscopy would have caught it” and defenses that “the fecal occult blood test alone just has its limits,” and the debate spread into differences in screening content, checkup rates, and the high cost of more thorough tests.

    [Battling Illness] Despite Annual Health Screenings, ‘Colorectal Cancer’ Stage 4 — “There’s No Way to Operate”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:51
    You need to go at least once every six months
    Honestly, given how easy it is to miss something, even once every three months would be reasonable
    4AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:55
    That's just fate
    If anything, blame heaven
    5AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:55
    Maybe the health screening itself was pointless
    My workplace does blood tests and stool tests every six months
    6AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:59
    Doesn't a health screening usually include a stool test?
    7AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:01
    Re: #6
    It says once a year
    That's expensive
    8AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:01
    Don't tell me the punchline is they didn't even run the fecal occult blood test?
    9AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:02
    If he never got a colonoscopy, that's on him
    10AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:02
    Under extreme stress, cancer can form in 3 months
    Source: me
    17AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:10
    Re: #10
    Only 3 months? What kind of stress causes that…
    21AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:26
    The negative effects from vaccines
    Is the risk really a flat 0%?
    22AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:28
    Cancer's main causes are genetics and environmental factors (diet), but
    colorectal cancer specifically seems to be caused by toxins produced by gut microbes
    and apparently a lot of Japanese people happen to carry these microbes
    24AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:41
    Yeah, they're definitely putting something weird in the food
    25AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:42
    Re: #17
    New-employee health checkup in April
    Getting home at 1am every night
    One day my back started aching and I couldn't stop coughing at night, so I was chugging cough syrup
    Six-month follow-up checkup in October
    They told me to push it back since things were busy, but I pushed through and went anyway
    Found a huge tumor in my lung
    → Hospitalized the next day
    After 3 rounds of chemo, had open-chest surgery down the center of my sternum
    26AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:45
    Re: #25
    So what happened after that — how are you doing now?
    27AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:51
    In Germany a lot more people get colonoscopies, and polyps get removed right there during the exam, so they have less colorectal cancer than Japan
    28AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:53
    > Even though I got a health screening every year
    That right there is exactly the problem
    29AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:54
    Re: #26
    I just went in for an X-ray at a hospital I hadn't visited in over 10 years, and since nobody said anything about it I let it go — my old chart isn't even on file anymore
    But now every time I see a doctor, they ask about the surgical scar and the clip visible on my chest X-ray
    30AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:55
    I heard a colonoscopy once every 10 years is supposedly enough, though
    33AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:04
    Apparently there's a type of colorectal cancer that doesn't grow as a polyp, which makes it hard to catch
    34AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:08
    Even if you say you go every year, a health screening usually doesn't include an actual colonoscopy
    36AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:17
    Health screenings run the full range from top-tier to bare minimum, you know
    37AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:19
    Only 35% of people even in their 40s to 60s have ever had a colonoscopy
    38AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:25
    It depends on whether they're actually scoping the stomach and intestines
    or just doing a barium swallow and a stool test
    39AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:31
    Even something barely more than a basic checkup gets marketed as a 'health screening'
    Is there even a real definition for it?
    40AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:31
    A guy at my company drank the barium for his checkup and it came back normal, but six months later cancer was found and he died
    41AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:33
    Getting both an upper and lower endoscopy adds about 50,000 yen (~$330) to the bill
    42AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:34
    Even doctors won't drink the barium themselves
    You should get a PET scan instead
    43AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:35
    Colonoscopies eat up a whole day because of the laxative prep, so people tend to put them off
    45AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:37
    > I got a health screening every year, but by the time my cancer was found it was already stage IV. The test used in these screenings to check for colorectal cancer is generally the fecal occult blood test (which checks whether blood is mixed into the stool).

    > But since I wasn't bleeding at all, the fecal occult blood test couldn't catch it. To improve your odds of catching it early, I'd also recommend a blood tumor-marker test and a colonoscopy (*).
    46AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:39
    So is the barium swallow pointless, then?
    Guess you really do need regular scope exams after all
    47AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:41
    Plenty of people survive even at stage 4, so honestly it just depends on the person
    48AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:42
    A camera down the throat isn't too bad, but the one for the colon is rough
    50AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:43
    I just mentioned I'd been having diarrhea and the visit was covered by insurance
    51AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:43
    It removes polyps and prevents colorectal cancer outright, so it's absolutely worth it
    52AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:44
    Without add-on options a 'ningen dock' is basically the same as a regular checkup, but piling on the extras runs the bill up into the tens of thousands of yen, which makes you hesitate

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    A “ningen dock” (comprehensive health screening) isn’t a legally standardized program — what gets tested varies a lot depending on the facility and the course you pick. The fecal occult blood test, widely used as the first-line check for colorectal cancer, tends to come back negative for lesions that aren’t bleeding — the article quoted in the thread itself says the cancer “wasn’t found because I wasn’t bleeding at all.” The thread cited a figure showing only just over 30% of people in their 40s to 60s have ever had a colonoscopy, and the hassle of laxative prep plus the extra tens of thousands of yen for a combined upper/lower endoscopy help explain that low uptake. A common misconception is the assumption itself that “getting a health screening every year prevents colorectal cancer” — in reality, whether a course centers on the fecal occult blood test or includes a full colonoscopy changes what kinds of lesions can actually be caught. Opinions in the thread split between those pointing out the tests’ inherent limits and those questioning the choice not to get a colonoscopy in the first place.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Colorectal Cancer Despite Annual Health Screenings — Whose Fault Is It?.”

  • 5ch Grills a Nagano Local With Questions About Home Turf — “No Way I’m Riding That, I’d Die”

    A thread titled “I’m from Nagano Prefecture, ask me anything” popped up on 5ch’s Nanademo Jikkyo board, and a poster claiming to live in Suwa City fielded a stream of questions from other users. Topics ranged from local food culture to the realities of a dangerous festival — rumors about a rivalry between Nagano City and Matsumoto, why salad gunkan-maki (a vegetable-topped sushi roll) is so popular locally, and firsthand experience with the Onbashira Festival. One reply stood out: asked whether they’d ever ridden the felled logs at Onbashira, the local said, “I’ve made it a rule never to ride it — I could die,” revealing just how dangerous the Shinto ritual really is, with an actual history of fatalities. There was also a reply speculating on how the Linear Chuo Shinkansen might affect Iida City. Overall, the thread built up steadily through simple questions and matter-of-fact answers from a local.

    1AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:10
    By the way, I live in Suwa.
    12AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:14
    Wait, is that even a real prefecture in Japan?
    14AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:15
    Re: #12
    YOU. LIKE GENSHIN? (written in stilted all-katakana for a deliberately robotic, broken-Japanese effect)
    15AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:15
    Re: #12
    It's in Kyushu, obviously.
    19AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:16
    Is the Nagano City–Matsumoto rivalry actually real?
    21AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:17
    Re: #19
    They don't actually hate each other — it's all just for show, like pro wrestling.
    22AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:17
    Re: #19
    Well, honestly, they're both genuinely nice places — they just like to one-up each other.
    23AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:18
    Re: #14
    Genshin, the game? I don't play it, so I don't really have an opinion either way.
    25AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:19
    Re: #23
    OK. UNDERSTOOD. (same stilted all-katakana delivery as before)
    27AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:19
    Why do you like salad gunkan-maki more than salmon or tuna?
    30AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:21
    Re: #27
    Well, we're landlocked with only freshwater here, and the vegetables are genuinely good. That said, Shinshu salmon (locally farmed trout) is tasty too.
    35AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:22
    Re: #27
    Salad gunkan-maki actually originated in Nagano.
    29AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:20
    Once the Linear Shinkansen is finished, will Iida City see more development?
    31AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:21
    Re: #29
    Probably, yeah.
    37AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:22
    Re: #29
    Though honestly, I have a feeling it'll end up being a pretty modest bump in development.
    33AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:22
    OP, where in Nagano do you actually live?
    40AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:23
    Re: #33
    I already said Suwa City.
    36AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:22
    Have you ever ridden the log at the Onbashira Festival?
    41AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:24
    Re: #36
    I've made it a rule never to ride it — I could die. Seriously, that festival's dangerous enough that people have actually died doing it.
    44AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:29
    The ski resorts are basically dead from lack of visitors — doesn't that worry you at all?
    47AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:30
    Re: #44
    Not really, doesn't worry me much. When I actually go skiing, I usually head out to Niigata anyway.
    46AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:29
    Didn't you just say "Suwa"? They're asking which city or town within the Suwa area, right? 🤔
    48AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:31
    Re: #46
    Sounds like something a certain pink-haired, Kansai-dialect-speaking Voiceroid (a text-to-speech character popular in Japanese commentary videos) would say: "Fair enough, my bad — but when you say Suwa, obviously you mean Suwa City!"
    49AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:32
    I wouldn't want to live in Suwa — the ground's too soft there. Even a big truck driving by makes the place shake.
    51AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:33
    Re: #49
    Fair point. Also, Lake Suwa's kind of known as a haunted spot — apparently spirits tend to gather near water.
    53AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:35
    Re: #49
    But I own a house here, so honestly, I don't want to leave.
    52AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:34
    Re: #50
    Suwa isn't part of Nanshin (the southern Shinshu/Nagano region), you know.
    79AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:54
    Re: #52
    Don't tell me you moved here recently. You wouldn't get that wrong if you'd actually grown up in Suwa — you'd have competed in the Nanshin regional tournament for school clubs, so normally there's no way you'd mix that up.
    82AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:56
    Re: #79
    For the record, I moved back to Nagano when I was at Shinshu University — I lived in Matsumoto back then. And yeah, I'm 29 now.
    86AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:59
    Re: #79
    Also, funny enough, I actually wasn't born in Suwa.
    55AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:38
    There's a really old Daiso near Lake Suwa, right?
    57AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:40
    Re: #55
    You mean the Suwa Shiga store?
    58AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:41
    I heard Nagano locals love a fish cake called "Vitamin Chikuwa" — do people in Suwa eat it regularly too?
    59AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:41
    Re: #58
    I don't really eat it much.
    65AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:45
    Re: #59
    Thanks for the answer ("サンガツ" — forum slang for "thanks"). One more question: for local events like the Onbashira Festival, does literally everyone living in the Suwa area have to take part? Or is it fine to skip it if you're not in the neighborhood association?
    69AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:47
    Re: #65
    It's not mandatory or anything. I mean, forcing people to join a festival dangerous enough to kill people would be insane anyway.
    67AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:46
    Built a log house out in a village — I'm basically half a Chino City resident now. Got friendly with a nearby bakery, gelato shop, tofu shop, and some local farmers. So much great food around here, I really love it.
    70AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:48
    Re: #67
    Glad to hear it.

    Background and Key Points

    “I’m from [Prefecture], ask me anything” threads are a staple format on 5ch, usually centered on asking a local about regional geography, culture, and food customs. This thread was no exception, running through Nagano-specific topics like the Onbashira Festival, salad gunkan-maki, and the relationship with Matsumoto. Onbashira is the common name for the Onbashira-sai, a ceremonial event held at Suwa Taisha shrine, where the biggest highlight is “kiotoshi” — sending massive logs sliding down a steep slope while riders cling to them. It’s a genuinely dangerous Shinto ritual with an actual history of fatalities. Participation is generally organized by neighborhood association, so the thread’s claim that it’s “not mandatory” broadly matches reality. As for salad gunkan-maki, one theory holds that because landlocked Nagano has no access to the sea, vegetable-topped sushi rolls caught on there more than raw-fish ones, and some locals even claim the dish originated in the region. The supposed “bad blood” between Nagano City and Matsumoto reflects a light rivalry rooted in their different standings — one as the prefectural capital, the other as a former castle town — rather than any serious conflict. The Linear Chuo Shinkansen is currently under construction between Shinagawa and Nagoya, with a new station planned near Iida City, though the article doesn’t mention that the opening timeline remains uncertain due to delays in the Shizuoka section. Rather than sparking disagreement, the thread mostly consists of simple questions met with matter-of-fact answers from a local, making for an enjoyable read about regional trivia.

    *This article is compiled as excerpts and a summary from the 5ch (Nanademo Jikkyo board) thread “I’m from Nagano Prefecture, ask me anything.”

  • 5ch Fans Celebrate Ruby-chan’s Birthday — 5ch: “Take That, You Lame-Ass Spam Script”

    A thread celebrating the birthday of the character “Sakurauchi Ruby” popped up on 5ch’s Love Live! board. The thread starter explained the backstory, writing, “For some reason I can’t get a thread going on Shitaraba, so I’m building one here instead.” Board regulars piled on with birthday wishes, along with a flood of posts mimicking Ruby’s catchphrases like “Igyuaaa” and “Tongyuaaa.” Later in the thread, the mood flipped from celebration to one of the board’s signature headaches, as posters squared off against a “script” — an automated spam bot plaguing the board — firing back with lines like “Bring it on” and “You lose, you lame-ass script.”

    1AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:12
    Happy birthday!
    For some reason I can't get a thread going on Shitaraba, so I'm building one here instead.
    3AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:17
    Ka-chan's a total hottie
    4AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:28
    Happy birthday, Ruby-chan!
    6AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:31
    Ruby-chan, help me!!
    7AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:36
    Ruuubyyy-chaaan~
    9AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:36
    What's your fav~?
    10AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:37
    Mint choc chip!
    14AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:37
    Igyuaaa
    15AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:37
    Tongyuaaa
    17AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:38
    Suzuhara Rorerin Mushroom (nonsense text — spam-bot gibberish)
    18AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:38
    Suzuhara Nijian Mushroom (nonsense text — spam-bot gibberish)
    23AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:39
    No way Ruby-san loses to some pathetic script, shu~ (mimicking Ruby's signature "-shu" speech tic)
    24AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:39
    Uyuaaaa
    25AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:41
    Hmph, at ease (a stock noble/period-drama line meaning "you're excused, no need to stand on ceremony")
    26AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:43
    You damn bald script!
    27AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:43
    Bring it on!
    28AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:43
    Guess the bald script lost, huh
    29AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:43
    Drop dead already, idiot (Kansai-dialect insult)
    30AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:43
    The Love Live board will rise again, no question
    31AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:44
    You lose, you lame-ass script

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    On 5ch, an automated posting program known as a “script” sometimes floods a board with mass spam, temporarily disrupting it or making it unusable. In the back half of this thread too, phrases like “you damn bald script!” and “lame script” started piling up one after another, suggesting the Love Live! board was in the middle of getting hit by this kind of spam attack. The way the thread starter brought up Shitaraba (a separate Japanese forum site) when explaining why they posted here may also hint that the usual board was hard to use for some reason. Meanwhile, the birthday posts themselves mostly revolved around stock phrases echoing Ruby’s catchphrases “Igyuaaa” and “Tongyuaaa,” giving the thread the feel of fans bonding among themselves. There was no real disagreement between the regulars — the only friction in the thread came from their pushback against the spam bot.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Love Live!) thread “Ruby-chan’s Birthday 🎉.”

  • Daisuke Hori Called Out by Serious Lifters: ‘Your Form Is Just Wrong’

    Daisuke Hori’s weightlifting footage drew a wave of criticism from serious lifters on 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyo G” board, who pointed out that his form was wrong. Hori reportedly trained while sleep-deprived, and some users suggested his real goal wasn’t muscle growth but simply waking himself up. The thread was split between commenters who credited him for maintaining a decent physique despite the lack of sleep, and harsher critics who called his results underwhelming given how many years he’s supposedly been training. Hori’s refusal to budge from his own theories even when challenged by experts also became a talking point.

    2AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:20
    It's not weightlifting, it's just to wake himself up, you know
    12AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:21
    'Muscle synthesis runs on an 8-hour cycle, so I trained for 8 hours' ←🤔
    23AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:24
    Re: #12
    Digging his own grave with that weird excuse
    20AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:23
    The amazing thing about this guy is he pushes his own theory even in front of actual experts
    Does he not have a concept of embarrassment?
    77AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:51
    Re: #20
    That sheer stubbornness alone is a real talent
    Even when shown scientific evidence, he pushes back with anecdotes and mystery 'proof' without flinching — basically unbeatable, or rather, arguing with this guy is pointless
    102AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:34
    Re: #77
    He's basically a regular here himself (a poster on the 'Nandemo Jikkyo G' board)
    21AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:24
    He's actually got muscle on him, so isn't that fine?
    26AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:25
    Re: #21
    From a serious lifter's perspective, he's barely got any muscle — dude's scrawny
    30AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:26
    Re: #21
    For someone who's been lifting for years, this is honestly pretty lame
    32AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:27
    Re: #21
    This is nothing impressive at all
    36AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:28
    Lmao, not sleeping is literally sabotaging that 'muscle synthesis' he's talking about
    40AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:29
    Re: #36
    It'd be way more meaningful if he compared his training with sleep vs. without
    38AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:29
    But he was a short sleeper, so isn't that kind of impressive?
    42AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:30
    Re: #38
    You mean a 'micro-sleeper'? (even more extreme than a short sleeper — barely sleeps at all)
    43AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:30
    Re: #38
    If he wanted to really claim 'short sleeper' status, he should've slept about 4 hours, then done the workout as a wake-up call, and gone about his day without even showering
    46AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:31
    Mikiya Takasu is rich enough to build a whole home gym, yet here's equipment just lined up in an ordinary room — kind of surreal

    Using what looks like an expensive rug he got as a gift instead of a proper mat
    101AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:34
    Re: #46
    Bringing up Mikiya Takasu out of nowhere is genuinely unhinged, Hori fanboy
    How much do you hate Takasu, seriously
    53AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:34
    This guy really never says anything to people who actually seem strong, huh
    72AnonymousSep 21, 2026 13:46
    Re: #53
    The people this guy has decided are 'beneath him':
    Mikiya Takasu, Sho Takeyaki, and Fumin Takada
    81AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:00
    Is it true that correct form matters more in lifting than time or reps?
    How big a difference does it actually make?
    82AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:02
    Re: #81
    That kind of thing changes every year anyway, so consistency matters most
    83AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:02
    Re: #81
    I think the gap is big enough that it's almost pointless if you're not loading the muscle correctly
    86AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:04
    Re: #81
    No idea about the difference in results, but you'll get injured
    112AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:44
    It's just exercise to wake himself up to cover for his own lie, so it's a bit much to lump him in with serious lifters
    113AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:44
    Re: #112
    This guy's serious enough to have actually competed in physique competitions though

    Background and Key Points

    Daisuke Hori is said to have a history of competing in physique competitions, and has repeatedly become a topic on 5ch thanks to his distinctive lifestyle and remarks. The core of this criticism is twofold: he presented exercise done while sleep-deprived as “weight training,” and the theoretical explanation he attached to it (things like an “8-hour muscle synthesis cycle”) didn’t match actual training science. Opinions on his physique itself were also split in the thread, with some praising him for maintaining his build despite the lack of sleep, and others calling it underwhelming given how many years he’s reportedly been training. The thread also contained unconfirmed rumors about his health and possible legal trouble, but since these can’t be verified, they are not covered in this article.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Sad News] Daisuke Hori Gets Called Out by Serious Lifters for Doing His Weight Training Wrong wwwwwwwwww.”

  • What’s Japan’s Most Famous Ramen Chain? 5ch Weighs In: ‘For Name Recognition, It’s Jiro’

    A thread on 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyo” (live-everything) board asking “Which ramen chain do you think is the most famous in Japan?” quickly filled with names like Tenkaippin, Ichiran, Ippudo, Jiro, Mouko Tanmen Nakamoto, and Hidakaya. As the discussion grew, it became clear posters couldn’t agree on what “famous” even meant — whether it should be measured by how many people have actually eaten there, or by store count and convenience-store exposure. Several posters also pointed out that Tokyo-area chains like Hidakaya, Kurumaya, and Ramen Shop are barely known outside the greater Kanto region.

    1AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:12
    Chains count too, right
    10AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:16
    Whether you'd actually go or even like it aside, if it's pure fame we're talking about it might be Tenkaippin.
    That name "Tenkaippin" ("number one under heaven") has a lot of punch to it too.
    19AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:21
    Us country folk from Fukuoka don't know Tenkaippin, Jiro, or Yamaokaya.
    So it's gotta be Ichiran or Ippudo as most famous.
    23AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:24
    Gotta be Sumire.
    It's been sitting on 7-Eleven shelves forever.
    30AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:29
    Gyoza no Ohsho obviously doesn't register as a ramen shop, so I'll say Ringer Hut.
    42AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:37
    Re: #30
    Wait, Ringer Hut is a ramen chain?
    I thought it was a pizza place.
    32AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:32
    Kukoke? (probably a typo for "koko ka?" — "is this the place?")


    52AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:42
    Re: #32
    So the shop is actually built lower than street level?
    73AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:55
    Re: #32
    Surely by now they've raised all the wiring and equipment up off the ground.
    34AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:34
    If it's purely a question of name recognition, it's Jiro.
    Even counting the infamy, literally everyone knows it.
    37AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:35
    Re: #34
    Nah, not really — outside Kanto its name recognition probably drops off a lot.
    46AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:38
    Is there anything besides Kurumaya?
    47AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:38
    Re: #46
    Kurumaya only exists in and around Kanto.
    55AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:44
    Re: #47
    Who cares about the boonies outside Kanto anyway lol
    61AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:48
    Ramen Shop and Kourakuen seem like strong contenders.
    64AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:49
    Re: #61
    Ramen Shop doesn't exist in western Japan.
    67AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:53
    Re: #65
    Then what would it be?
    68AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:53
    Re: #67
    Being spread across a wide area gives you more name recognition than being clustered in one spot, right?
    72AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:55
    Re: #67
    How do you not get that lol
    69AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:53
    You probably have no connection to that crowd so you wouldn't know, but people who don't eat ramen have zero awareness of Tenkaippin.
    75AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:56
    Re: #69
    Ramen Shop, Yamaokaya, and Kurumaya are even less known than that.
    76AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:56
    Re: #64
    Didn't know that — if so the Nakamoto theory is seriously plausible.
    You can eat it anywhere there's a 7-Eleven.
    78AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:57
    Re: #76
    Nakamoto has even fewer actual stores.
    79AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:57
    Re: #78
    If you're counting by 7-Eleven numbers the figures get insane.
    It's been a mega long-seller too.
    84AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:01
    Re: #79
    Is Nakamoto the only one at 7-Eleven?
    There's instant noodles from other ramen shops too, plus ready-to-eat and microwave noodle products, no?
    80AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:58
    Sorry, are there actual total newbies out there who don't know Ramen Jiro?
    82AnonymousSep 21, 2026 14:58
    Re: #80
    If you count the "inspired-by" copycat shops it seems like a lot of people know it, but limited to the actual direct-lineage shops, I feel like plenty of people don't.
    85AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:01
    Re: #80
    Even if you say "the Mita flagship shop," people out in the provinces have no idea where Mita even is.
    86AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:02
    Re: #84
    There's Sumire and others, but Nakamoto is the runaway bestseller among them.
    Every college kid and teenager out there is eating Mouko Tanmen.
    90AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:04
    Re: #86
    That's beside the point.
    This is about whether it's stocked in stores or not.
    You're saying if it's stocked, that counts as name recognition, right?
    So does everyone actually know where the Nakamoto shops even are?
    If all they know is the 7-Eleven version, doesn't that mean they don't actually know the restaurant?
    92AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:05
    Re: #90
    There's a whole write-up about the shop printed on the inside of the lid.
    Have you never actually eaten it?
    94AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:06
    Re: #90
    The reason I can say that is because even in Tohoku, where there are no actual shops, everyone who eats Mouko Tanmen knows about Nakamoto.
    87AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:03
    Nakamoto and Jiro are just places the "cheese gyudon" crowd goes to (5ch slang for a certain low-status otaku/NEET poster stereotype).
    Thinking about it normally, it's gotta be either Hidakaya or Kourakuen.
    89AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:04
    Re: #87
    Only people from Kanto even know Hidakaya.
    Source: me, born in Tohoku.
    91AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:05
    Re: #87
    Outside Kanto, Hidakaya only has a single location, in Niigata — it's basically a local chain.
    93AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:06
    There's really no ramen chain with truly nationwide coverage.
    Even the top chains are missing from somewhere.
    96AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:07
    Re: #93
    That's a tall order — even 7-Eleven, a convenience store, only made it into Okinawa a few years ago.
    95AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:06
    Re: #92
    I went once back when they had a shop in Kameido and never went back.
    It was pretty bad.
    Couldn't taste any umami at all.
    97AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:09
    Re: #95
    Well, that cup noodle sells like crazy.
    The package even has the shop owner's face on it, with a write-up about the shop on the lid — people from outside Kanto have been known to swing by the actual restaurant while traveling.
    99AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:10
    Re: #97
    So what?
    By that logic Nissin Foods would be the overwhelmingly more recognized name.
    That's a separate thing from the ramen shop itself being recognized.
    103AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:13
    Re: #99
    It's precisely because the ramen shop itself is recognized that it drives tourism — all my friends back home say they want to try Nakamoto if they ever go to Tokyo.

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    Japan’s ramen chains tend to be regionally concentrated, which throws off any simple measure of “fame.” Hidakaya’s stores are almost entirely within the Kanto region, and Kourakuen and the frequently-cited Ramen Shop are similarly concentrated in eastern Japan. Tenkaippin, by contrast, originated in the Kansai region, while in Kyushu, Ichiran and Ippudo have a much stronger presence — meaning the “famous shop” people picture depends heavily on where they live. Mouko Tanmen Nakamoto, despite having relatively few physical locations, sits on convenience store shelves nationwide as a 7-Eleven cup noodle, giving it a distinctive kind of fame where people “know the name even if they’ve never eaten there.” Ramen Jiro is a similar case — its shops are confined to a handful of cities, but online buzz has made its name known nationwide. What split opinion in the thread really came down to a mismatch in definitions: whether “famous” should be measured by how many people have actually eaten at the shop, or by how many people simply recognize the name. That disagreement never got resolved, and it’s worth keeping in mind when reading the debate.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo board) thread “Which ramen chain do you think is the most famous in Japan?“

  • “Let’s Have a High-Level Discussion,” They Said → 5ch Live-Chat Users Derail into Monster Hunter Talk and Food Porn

    On 5ch’s live-commentary board “Nandemo Jikkyou G,” a thread that kicked off with the call “let’s have a high-level discussion” ended up blowing up — just not the way anyone expected. No talk of literature or art ever materialized; instead the topic turned to games like Monster Hunter and Puzzle & Dragons. Things got sillier still when someone twisted a politician’s surname into the pun “Level Takaichi” (playing on “takai,” meaning “high”), which got a laugh out of everyone. From there the thread spiraled further, with posters swapping lunch photos and debating their favorite characters from the anime “Sound! Euphonium.” In the end, the “high-level discussion” everyone originally asked for never actually happened.

    10AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:33
    So what? What's wrong with wanting a high-level discussion? What CAN you guys even talk about?
    14AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:34
    Re: #10
    Battle Girl High School
    12AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:34
    Re: #10
    Seriously, what topic CAN you talk about, then?
    15AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:34
    Re: #12
    Like literature or art.
    Can you manage a "Level Takaichi" discussion?" (a pun on "takai," meaning "high," and the surname of politician Takaichi)
    19AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:35
    Re: #15
    Literature lolololol
    33AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:36
    Re: #15
    What even IS a "Level Takaichi" discussion?
    18AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:35
    Wanna talk Monster Hunter or what? 😲
    27AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:35
    Re: #18
    I could do Puzzle & Dragons
    32AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:36
    Re: #18
    Hurry up and drop Ascendance already 😡
    67AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:43
    Re: #18
    You mean the series that died because Wilds was such garbage?
    23AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:35
    Whaaat is this thing?!
    25AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:35
    Re: #23
    Bun-bun-buuun! 🐧
    28AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:35
    Re: #25
    Baaan-cho!
    31AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:36
    Re: #25
    Kon-ko-konkon-kokonkonkon! ✊
    61AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:42
    Eatin' now 🥹
    70AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:43
    Re: #61
    So yummy~ 🥹
    90AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:45
    Re: #61
    Looks tasty, eh~
    64AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:42
    Guess you can only manage Takaichi-level conversation, huh
    75AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:43
    Re: #64
    So that means it's high-level then, right?
    74AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:43
    Rain, rain, fall and fall, fall some more
    I'd be so happy if you came to get me with a janome-pattern umbrella (lines from the classic children's song "Amefuri")
    89AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:45
    Re: #74
    Is this "Ame no Bojou"?" (a classic enka ballad, "Longing in the Rain")
    92AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:45
    Lunch
    133AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:52
    Re: #92
    Looks tasty~ 🥹
    119AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:48
    Lunch
    124AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:49
    Re: #119
    Looks healthy
    125AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:50
    Re: #119
    Probably a pic pulled off the internet, but is that aosa (dried green seaweed) on top of the noodles?
    137AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:52

    Who's your favorite girl from Sound! Euphonium?
    I'm a Kanade-chan guy myself
    139AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:53
    Re: #137
    Wait, which one is she again?
    160AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:00
    Uhh, hold on? Don't you people have jobs??? 😅
    164AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:00
    Re: #160
    It's Platinum Week 🤗" (a jokey one-up on Japan's "Golden Week" holiday stretch)
    166AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:01
    Re: #160
    Ever heard of a lunch break, Mr. Unemployed? 🤭

    Background and Talking Points

    “Nandemo Jikkyou G” is a live-commentary board where casual chatter flows almost like a livestream, and it’s common for a thread’s stated topic to have nothing to do with where the conversation actually ends up. This time, too, the “let’s have a high-level discussion” premise never really took hold — the drift toward game talk and food photos is a familiar pattern on this board. The “Takaichi” pun that runs through the thread repurposes a politician’s surname as wordplay on “takai” (high); it’s worth noting this is just wordplay, not commentary on policy or approval ratings. It should also be noted that the original thread contained replies mocking a real person’s educational background and appearance, plus some sexual comments — those have been left out of this article since they amount to personal attacks on a specific individual. For most live-commentary threads, the appeal isn’t deep engagement with any single topic — it’s the fast, easy back-and-forth between posters.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyou G) thread “Can I start a thread too, tousuko? 🏡😖.”

  • Shigure Ui x Mezzo Piano Collab Scrapped — 5ch Split on Who’s to Blame

    A collaboration between VTuber Shigure Ui and the kids’ clothing brand “Mezzo Piano” was canceled after a wave of backlash. The trouble stemmed from unease over pairing a children’s clothing brand with a VTuber best known for the song “Shukusei!! Loli-God Requiem☆,” and things escalated on X with reports of Shigure Ui fans sending harassment, threatening legal action, and an eventual public apology. On 5ch, opinion split over whether the blame lies with Shigure Ui herself or the company that set up the collab, with debate also breaking out over who her fanbase actually is.

    1AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:32
    She just took a job she was offered, and now she's getting absolutely dragged for it?
    4AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:32
    Guess a lot of people quietly disliked her already.
    29AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:39
    Re: #4
    Same.
    I'm with this one too, by the way (-De)
    8AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:33
    Question: has she ever actually said she's into lolicon stuff herself? If not, I don't think she's done anything wrong at all.
    24AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:37
    Re: #8
    Joke or not, the moment you use the word 'lolicon' or get tangled up with that crowd, society's already written you off.
    26AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:38
    Watching X, it's honestly funny — the more the fanboys ("V-buta," VTuber-obsessed guys) twist logic and lose it defending her, the more normal people get creeped out and her image gets even worse, so it never dies down. A real vicious cycle.
    49AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:45
    Re: #26
    Do normal people even know about this? Feels like it's just blowing up inside one tiny community.
    34AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:40
    Re: #32
    So what do you creepy otaku types ("kimo-ota") think about this whole mess?
    41AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:43
    Re: #34
    It's hopeless trash at this point, so honestly, who cares.
    35AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:40
    She's just getting hated on for succeeding young. She came out of the stream completely unscathed.
    36AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:41
    Re: #35
    She's not even that young, lol 😅
    39AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:41
    The people bashing Shigure Ui and demanding an apology make zero sense to me. Blame the company that dreamed up this garbage collab in the first place — saying 'she should've turned down the offer' is a childish take.
    47AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:44
    Re: #39
    The company's getting bashed too, actually. On top of that, Shigure Ui's fans are firing back with harassment, which is just making things blow up even more around her.
    40AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:42
    Bottom line: VTubers just aren't as popular with normal people as the fanboys ("V-buta") like to claim.
    42AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:44
    Re: #40
    They're stuck in such a tiny echo chamber that their sense of normal is completely broken. Even on X you see them flexing about subscriber counts and view counts — metrics that leave normal people going '???'. Genuinely pathetic.
    54AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:47
    She's running a business reeling in lolicon 'big kids' (adult fans), and then tries to collab with a legit children's clothing brand — of course people said no. Aren't her streams mostly late-night anyway?
    59AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:49
    Re: #54
    If the company's the one who asked her, then sure, why wouldn't she do it?
    62AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:49
    What I really don't get is OP making thread after thread to defend some drawn character called Shigure Ui. Normally you wouldn't care this much unless you were getting paid.
    63AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:49
    Re: #62
    If you didn't care, you wouldn't be replying, would you? 😅
    65AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:49
    Hate for VTuber fanboys ("V-buta") just keeps piling up. Next time something happens at a bigger event, the whole industry's going up in flames.
    68AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:50
    Re: #65
    You won't know that until it actually happens.
    66AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:50
    So this is basically a clash between kids'-clothing shoppers and VTuber fans, right? Brand-conscious moms vs. lolicon uncles. Wonder who wins.
    75AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:54
    Re: #66
    She should've stayed happy with that, but no, she had to step out on her own — and of all things, blows up big over a girls' clothing collab.
    70AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:52
    It's not just 'kids' clothing' — the fact that it's specifically Mezzo Piano is what makes this so perfectly awkward.
    73AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:53
    Re: #70
    True. The kind of slightly image-conscious moms who want to turn their daughters into little princesses seem like exactly the type who'd hate creepy otaku the most.
    77AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:55
    AI Overview: Shigure Ui's audience centers on young viewers in their teens through 30s, drawing broad support regardless of gender. Audience traits — Age range: mainly teens, 20s, and 30s. They show deep familiarity with internet memes and stream culture, and are notably strong at spreading things on social media.

    So according to AI, Shigure Ui's audience skews young — teens to 30s — meaning the fanbase apparently isn't really made up of lolicon uncles like people keep saying.
    82AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:56
    Re: #77
    So it's young people going wild over this? That's surprising.
    90AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:00
    Sankei Sports' write-up is something else.

    Mezzo Piano cancels collab with Shigure Ui of 'Loli-God Requiem' fame
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/e1448f4645e8b94c7fd1c54571b933bb92bd7823
    > Shigure Ui is a popular VTuber known for songs like 'Shukusei!! Loli-God Requiem☆,' in which a 9-year-old girl taunts pedophiles.
    91AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:01
    Re: #90
    LOL, but honestly that's probably not an inaccurate description. That one song alone has weirdly outperformed everything else of hers.
    92AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:01
    Re: #90
    Why'd she even put on a 9-year-old avatar for that? What was the point?
    94AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:03
    Re: #90
    Isn't it supposed to be a song about purging lolicons?

    Background and Key Points of the Controversy

    “Shukusei!! Loli-God Requiem☆” is a signature song Shigure Ui has performed for a while, known for its premise of a 9-year-old avatar taunting pedophiles. The song itself didn’t spark new controversy this time — rather, the backlash was set off by the way its imagery collided with a project tied to real children: a collaboration with a kids’ clothing brand. Opinion in the thread split over whether blame should fall on Shigure Ui herself or on the company that made the offer. Defenders argued it’s unfair to expect her to turn down work and called it a misjudgment by the company, while critics countered that the moment you get tangled up with that crowd you’re done, and held her personally responsible. One caveat: the quoted “AI Overview” claiming her audience is mostly teens to 30-somethings cites no clear source or methodology, and isn’t official data confirming who her fanbase actually is.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyō G) thread “[Sad News] Did Shigure Ui Really Do Something That Bad?.”

  • 4 Car Traits That Crack People Up, Like ‘A Kei Car with a White License Plate’

    A thread on the 5ch message board blew up as users listed car traits that make them laugh whenever they spot them — things like “a kei car with a white license plate,” “a Suiyoubi Doushou (TV show) sticker,” “Baby in Car” signs, and “basically any Mazda.” Posters kept piling on with real-life “I know that type” sightings, from white fur draped over the dashboard to telltale patterns in custom license plate numbers. As the discussion grew, opinions split over why some kei car owners deliberately switch to white plates, and over the etiquette of using wheelchair-marked parking spaces.

    1AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:57
    Also:
    "Itasha (anime-wrapped cars)"
    "A ton of stuffed animals"
    4AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:08
    Lancer Evo and Impreza (censored in the post as ラン✕ボ/イ✕プレ✕サ)
    Otaku ratio is 150%
    Going over 100% means there's a 50% chance there's an otaku in the passenger seat too
    But it's telling that it never seems to hit 300% or 400%
    7AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:14
    When someone who can clearly walk just fine gets out of a car parked in a disabled parking space
    15AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:24
    Re: #7
    Probably has a pacemaker
    22AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:33
    Re: #7
    Internal organ conditions aren't visible from the outside — think dialysis patients
    11AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:21
    People who put white fur on their dashboard
    13AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:22
    Re: #11
    Get it? Because it's 'fur' (dajare pun)
    12AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:21
    Another self-proclaimed nationality x-ray vision guy showing up here
    16AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:27
    There are people with artificial heart valves who look perfectly healthy but hold a Grade 1 disability certificate
    44AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:57
    Re: #16
    They can drive just fine but still get 50% off JR train fares
    Some people drive to the station, then buy the half-price ticket to travel by train from there
    It's honestly a broken system
    18AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:29
    Yellow plates look cheap, just unify everything to white plates already
    19AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:32
    Why do you have such a grudge against Mazda?
    20AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:32
    If it's not in the context of bad manners, it's actually a legendary Showa-era car
    Just a fun fact
    23AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:33
    People who go 'lol' when they spot one

    People checking for 'a kei car with a white plate'
    People checking for a 'Suiyoubi Doushou sticker' or 'Baby in Car' sign
    People checking whether it's a 'Mazda'
    25AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:33
    A beat-up black compact car with full window tinting
    A sticker on the back that looks like Ayumi Hamasaki's icon
    Fluffy white fur and a thick steering wheel cover on the dashboard
    26AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:34
    Eikichi Yazawa's lightning-bolt logo
    28AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:35
    'Drive Slowly, Kanagawa'
    'Drive Gently, Tokyo'
    29AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:36
    Saw a 'Grandma is driving' sticker yesterday
    30AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:36
    Not sure if it's nationwide, but there are cars out there embarrassingly swapping just the grille for a Lexus one…
    31AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:36
    Lifted suspension, slammed low, GT wing, kangaroo bar
    33AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:38
    The plate number is
    571
    5861
    6019
    6120
    6437
    6627
    8195
    If it's a custom plate with numbers like these, there's a high chance the owner is 'that' type
    36AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:43
    Stuff like 8888 or four-of-a-kind numbers is definitely the annoying type too
    40AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:54
    Re: #22
    If you can just walk around normally, you shouldn't park there
    Internal conditions aren't the issue — if walking itself is painful, you shouldn't be driving in the first place
    Those spots exist purely to secure enough space for wheelchair users to get in and out
    41AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:55
    Has white fur sitting on top of the dashboard
    42AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:56
    So a Funky Friday sticker is fine then?
    48AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:11
    What's the reason for putting white plates on a kei car?
    It just makes the tax higher, right?
    52AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:32
    Re: #48
    I actually asked someone who did it directly — apparently the yellow plate clashes with their car's color
    I almost blurted out, 'You don't care about wearing shoes that clash with your outfit, but you care about that?'
    They should just be honest and say they're embarrassed about driving a kei car and want it to look more like a regular one
    58AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:00
    Re: #48
    Wait, seriously? I thought it was just a one-time fee of about 1,000 yen
    I bought a white N-BOX as a business expense and went with white plates so it wouldn't stand out
    The Honda dealer never mentioned any of that
    55AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:45
    Back in the 360cc kei car era, private-use plates were white too
    The format started with things like '88 Shinagawa ka'
    59AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:01
    Never even thought twice about whether a kei car had a white plate

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    Kei car license plates are officially required to have a yellow background, but through procedures like the preferred-number system, owners can pay an extra fee to get a white plate instead — and a certain number of owners choose to do so. Meanwhile, parking spaces marked with the wheelchair symbol aren’t reserved exclusively for people with mobility impairments; the permit system also covers people with “internal disabilities” — such as heart or kidney conditions — that aren’t visible from the outside, so judging eligibility by appearance alone is easy to get wrong. In the thread, opinions were split over why kei car owners switch to white plates and over who’s actually eligible to use those parking spots, while the conversation also branched into “I know that type” banter about guessing what kind of car owner someone is based on their stickers and plate numbers.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Hello!Project board) thread “4 Cars That Make You Laugh When You Spot Them: “Kei Car with White Plates,” “Suiyoubi Doushou Sticker,” “Baby in Car,” “Any Mazda”.”

  • Why Buy on Debt? Savers Get Swarmed With Rebuttals on 5ch’s VIP Board

    A post arguing that “you should just work and save up before taking out a student loan or a mortgage” set off a wave of pushback on 5ch’s News VIP board. Some argued it’s “inefficient,” pointing to the hidden cost of delaying school or a home purchase and to the logic of inflation and leverage, while others countered that “taking on debt is a personal choice” or that “borrowing for something you don’t need is just dumb.” The thread eventually spiraled into a fight over what “cost-performance” even means when it comes to buying a car.

    1AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:55
    Why take out a loan when you don't have the money in the first place?
    2AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:56
    Same goes for student loans, right?
    Just graduate high school, work, save up 5 million yen, then go to college.
    Same with a mortgage.
    Save up 20 million yen and buy a used place instead.
    7AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:03
    Re: #2
    Burning your precious years from 18 to 22 working a low-wage high-school-grad job instead of going the new-grad route is clearly not worth it.
    And if you don't have the money, just get into a public university or take out a low-income grant-type scholarship.
    Though sure, there's no upside to using a life-wrecking, exploitative loan just to attend a private school.
    6AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:00
    Though once inflation really takes off, people just end up leasing or renting instead.
    131AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:46
    Re: #6
    In that case interest gets added to your savings too, so it piles up faster.
    22AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:18
    Normally you save up money and then buy things or services, right?
    I genuinely don't get why you'd go into debt to buy something now.
    23AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:19
    Re: #22
    Why are you trying to force your idea of "normal" onto everyone else?
    Nobody asked for your personal standard of normal.
    24AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:21
    Re: #23
    So why go into debt instead of saving up first?
    Can't you just be patient?
    25AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:24
    Re: #24
    Why would I owe you an explanation for that?
    Ever heard the phrase "mind your own business"?
    26AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:25
    Some people literally can't graduate college without a student loan.
    Being able to save up in the first place is partly just having rich parents.
    28AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:26
    Re: #26
    Then just save up the money first and go to college after.
    27AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:26
    Re: #25
    Sounds like you just can't justify your own debt.
    29AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:27
    Re: #27
    There's nothing to "justify" — it's already legitimate as is.
    Taking out a loan is a personal choice, isn't it?
    31AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:28
    Re: #28
    I agree going into debt is dumb in general,
    but I can't agree with that take.
    Going to college is exactly the kind of thing you should borrow to do sooner rather than later.
    37AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:31
    Re: #31
    Is there really any point taking out a student loan to go to a voice-actor trade school?
    35AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:30
    It's people (and companies) like that who keep the economy running, y'know.
    42AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:32
    Re: #35
    Even if you borrow, you still have to pay it back, so it's the same thing in the end.
    36AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:30
    Re: #30
    If we're talking about going to med school or a national university,
    sure, I think it's fine to take out a loan because your family's broke.
    But borrowing money just to get into a trade school or some run-of-the-mill private university? That's just dumb.
    40AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:32
    Re: #36
    > "sure, I think it's fine to take out a loan"
    Nobody needs your permission to take out a student loan.
    Who do you think you are?

    > "borrowing money to get into a trade school or private university is just dumb"
    Do you have some kind of disease where you die if you don't get people to nod along and agree with your "right?" at the end of every opinion?
    41AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:32
    Re: #36
    I'd say it's exactly people going to private universities or trade schools who should borrow.
    Ending up there after repeating a year of exam prep (a "ronin") is no laughing matter.
    "I was working instead" doesn't fly in the real world.
    62AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:43
    "Cospa" (cost-performance) means cost-effectiveness.
    "As long as it drives" isn't cost-effectiveness, that's just low cost, plain and simple!
    More and more idiots calling cheap junk "cospa" without even understanding what the word means.
    66AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:45
    Re: #62
    Does a 5-million-yen car have 5 times or more the performance of a 1-million-yen car?
    That's what cost-performance actually means.
    71AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:48
    Re: #66
    Why does "performance" have to be the only thing that counts as the "pa" in cospa?
    There are plenty of other kinds of value in a car besides raw performance — equipment, features, convenience, quietness, and so on.
    74AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:49
    Re: #66
    As someone who's all for small government, that's how I see it too.
    98AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:02
    There are plenty of people out there who want to gamble for more than what their savings allow.
    Business works the same way.
    Well, I think what Re: #1 is really getting at is that borrowing to buy something you don't need is just dumb — and I agree with that much.
    99AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:03
    Re: #98
    Whether you need it or not has nothing to do with it.
    103AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:05
    Re: #98
    Whether it's business or government,
    I think you should save up money and keep things small.
    100AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:03
    I feel like there are plenty of people out there who flex with their cars,
    but it'd be hilarious if you had the power to see how much debt they're carrying lol.
    Then you'd know who can actually flex and who can't.
    101AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:04
    Re: #100
    What's so fun about that?
    That's information that's completely useless to your own life.
    106AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:06
    Re: #100
    Porsche, Benz, Lexus —
    I bet they're all financed idiots up to their necks in debt.
    135AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:59
    So what, are you supposed to sleep on the street until you've saved enough to build a house?
    138AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:01
    Re: #135
    Rent an apartment and save up your money.
    145AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:11
    Re: #138
    Rent isn't free though.
    141AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:02
    Re: #138
    If you're just going to waste money on rent, wouldn't it be better to save up and build the house from the start?
    142AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:07
    Re: #141
    Why take on debt at all?
    Why not just save up, buy a used house in your old age, renovate it, and live there?
    144AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:10
    Re: #142
    This person clearly doesn't understand inflation or leverage at all.
    146AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:11
    Re: #142
    And conversely, why would you have to buy a used house and renovate it in the first place?

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    Mortgages and student loans work by borrowing a lump sum upfront and paying it back out of future income — a fundamentally different premise from saving up the full amount before spending. The “inflation” argument raised in the thread points to the idea that inflation erodes the real value of savings while the amount you borrow stays fixed in nominal terms, meaning that when asset prices and wages are rising, borrowing and acting early tends to work in your favor. “Leverage” is an extension of this same logic — moving more money than you actually have on hand in order to avoid missing out on opportunities. At the same time, given how loan defaults on student debt and mortgage foreclosures have become recognized social problems, there’s also a strongly held view that the risk of borrowing simply “because you can” shouldn’t be brushed aside. Throughout the thread, posters never quite agreed on where to draw the line around necessity or the prestige of one’s school, and the argument ultimately morphed into a fight over the very definition of “cost-performance” — laying bare just how differently people’s baseline assumptions about money can be.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News VIP) thread “People who go into debt don’t make sense to me — just save up money first and then buy it, right?“

  • Fans Say They “Can’t Get Excited” About Angerme Under Ise’s Leadership — 5ch: “The Mid-Tier Members Are Too Weak”

    After Moe Kamikokuryo’s graduation, Angerme shifted to a lineup led by Suzuran Ise. The current tour is built around a core trio of Ise, Hashisako, and Dango (a member’s nickname), but a thread on 5ch’s Hello! Project board saw fans saying they “just can’t get fired up about it.” Opinions in the thread split between those questioning the leader’s qualities and those pointing to a thin bench of mid-tier members, with repeated comparisons to the Wada, Takeuchi, and Kamikokuryo eras.

    1AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:18
    Yeah, it's probably because Ise's kind of a difficult personality, so people just don't feel like going "I want to support her!"
    4AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:20
    Thinking Ise and Tamenaga are probably gonna be hanging around dragging on for another 5 years kills any urge to root for them
    7AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:23
    The "three-color dango" push flopping didn't help either
    The mid-tier lineup is just too weak
    47AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:49
    Re: #7
    They clearly pale in comparison even to Ono, Onoda, and Akiyama
    9AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:23
    Angerme's cycle had just settled down when this "looking-hot" bubble (盛れ, an image/filter-boost hype bubble) burst, and more DD-type fans (fans who support anyone rather than being loyal to one member) left than expected
    Ise herself is popular enough, but if we're talking yin and yang, she leans more toward the "yin" side, which might play into it a bit too
    And yeah, the mid-tier members are still lackluster
    10AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:24
    If she had her way, she probably wouldn't even want to be leader — she'd rather be doing what Kero's doing right now (Kero, a member's nickname)
    11AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:25
    Even back in the Takeuchi/Kamiko (Kamikokuryo's nickname) era there was kind of a "this'll do, right?" vibe being pushed on us
    Of course, it's not the members' fault at all
    12AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:25
    Wada and Takeuchi had real charisma
    13AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:26
    This tour is pushing the "three-color dango" trio hard, but for fans of the other members it's just not fun
    Honestly it's almost despair-inducing thinking this might just keep going
    14AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:28
    I don't think it's really Ise's fault so much as there just being no overwhelmingly popular ace-type member
    15AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:28
    Honestly I had hopes for Ise, but she couldn't break the downward trend
    16AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:29
    I went to the Goto/Nagano bar event but skipped Angerme's solo show this spring
    Might go to the Pia Arena show though
    17AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:29
    Ise's an outsider (didn't come up through the group from the start) — she's not leader material
    18AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:30
    Re: #17
    If you make Tamenaga leader it's completely over, you sure about that?
    19AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:30
    It's a member-quality issue.
    Compared to "Sasaki + Kamiko," "Ise + Hashisako + Dango" is clearly small-fry and lower caliber by any measure — there's no way they can pull in an audience.

    Blaming that all on the leader alone is just cruel.
    20AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:30
    Isn't it because she's not the type like Takeuchi or Kamikokuryo who can pull the group along with skill and vocal ability? Since she lacks skill, her "feelings statements" stand out more
    In that sense, even Tamenaga as leader would be better than Ise
    22AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:32
    Re: #20
    Tamenaga's not a skill-driven, can-carry-the-group type either, so it'd be the same
    And if you add her lack of popularity on top, she'd be even worse than Ise
    21AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:31
    They're in the middle of the fall tour, so why isn't Tamenaga writing blog posts?
    She's the sub-leader, right?
    The gap's already showing right there
    23AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:32
    If she's an outsider, don't just dump the responsibility on her
    The members who came up through the group should step up lol
    24AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:33
    Get fired up — Everybody go, everybody go, everybody go! (a chant from a Hello! Project song)
    25AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:33
    If Matsumoto were leader I'd actually want to root for them
    26AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:34
    Making Tamenaga leader is basically the same as making Haga leader, right?
    Isn't that a problem? Honestly it's starting to worry me
    27AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:34
    At this rate, they'll probably just bring in new members who already look like they'll be popular from day one
    Because Angerme's bad at developing talent
    28AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:35
    You can totally tell who's just scrolling past this topic! ❤️‍🔥
    29AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:36
    They brought in Hirayama, Goto, and Nagano — members who looked like they'd be popular, and they actually are popular within the group — and this is still where things stand
    30AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:36
    Even with Goto and Nagano added it's come to this, so I'm not expecting much
    31AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:37
    I wonder if Tamenaga would've gotten popular if she'd joined Juice=Juice instead
    33AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:38
    She's in a situation where she could've become the ace right away and didn't — isn't the real cause a failed reinforcement (recruiting) strategy?
    35AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:39
    Angerme itself is just not good anymore
    Whether it's Ise or Tamenaga
    Angerme itself is the problem
    Though honestly, it was Hashisako who created that whole atmosphere
    36AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:39
    Hashisako's probably lost all motivation by now
    Even salarymen, once their resignation's decided, only think about what comes after they quit
    49AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:50
    Re: #36
    She's probably influenced by Kawamura too
    37AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:40
    You'll all be "enjoying" Ise and Tamenaga for at least 3 more years
    38AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:41
    Watching the recent tours, it really feels like Ise and Tamenaga are the cancer here
    41AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:42
    Having only Goto to play off of and highlight Nagano feels thin
    Hello! Project keeps saying they don't need an "ace," so nobody stands out and this is the result, isn't it
    42AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:42
    Even members who, before joining Angerme, made people go "They stole the ace! Angerme's so unfair!" end up making people go "huh, is that all?" once they've actually joined

    Same as with Tsubaki Factory — there's no skilled senior member above them, so I guess the rookies just don't grow
    51AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:50
    I'm an out-of-the-loop non-fan, but BEYOOOOONDS and OCHA NORMA feel more lively
    At least going by what I see on the Ookami board (the Hello! Project fan board)
    67AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:04
    Re: #51
    Honestly I think they're dead last among the current groups
    Even Morning Musume is better than that

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    Angerme entered what’s known as the “Ise era” when Suzuran Ise became leader following Moe Kamikokuryo’s graduation. The current tour is built around a core push of Ise, Hashisako, and Dango, but opinions on this setup itself remain divided in the thread. The debate splits roughly into two camps: one questioning the leader’s personal qualities and charisma, and the other pointing out that the mid-tier members’ skill and popularity fall short compared to past eras. Comparisons to former leaders like Ayaka Wada, Akari Takeuchi, and Moe Kamikokuryo came up repeatedly, and there’s a persistent view that whether fans can “get fired up” hinges on having a strong member capable of pulling the group forward. That said, these are ultimately just opinions from a single 5ch thread, not a discussion backed by objective numbers like attendance figures or CD sales — it’s best read as one gauge of fan sentiment.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Why can’t I get fired up about Angerme under the Ise regime?“