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  • “Refunds Are the Premise for Discussions”: Committee Behind Cancelled Lake Biwa Fireworks Festival Posts SNS Update

    The “Lake Biwa Three-City Simultaneous Fireworks Festival,” which three cities in Shiga Prefecture had planned to hold jointly, has been cancelled, and the organizing committee announced it is proceeding with discussions on the premise of issuing refunds. However, the scope, timing, and method of any refunds have “not yet reached a final decision,” and on 5ch a wave of comments questioned whether the committee actually exists in any real form and where the collected funds have gone.

    The organizing committee for the fireworks festival — which had sold tickets for a simultaneous fireworks display across three cities in Shiga Prefecture before announcing its cancellation — updated its social media account on the 21st.

    Addressing buyers of viewing-seat tickets and food-stall vendors, the committee stated: “On the premise that we will issue refunds, we are proceeding with confirmation and discussion — including the legal and accounting aspects — of the scope, method, timing, procedures, and other necessary matters regarding refunds.”

    At the same time, it stated that the specific refund method, timing, and scope of eligibility have “not yet reached a final decision.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:17
    Wait, this wasn't being run by just one guy… was it?
    11AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:18
    Re: #3
    I'm pretty sure it actually is just one person.
    169AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:10
    Re: #3
    Isn't it just one guy? It's way too sloppy for it to be more than that — the only other person involved is probably the influencer who promoted it.
    13AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:18
    Does just saying that get you out of a fraud charge?
    18AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:19
    Re: #13
    In the Tokematch case (a watch-trading scam), the arrest came right after they put out an announcement just like this one.
    17AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:19
    How many people even make up this "executive committee" in the first place?
    131AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:56
    Re: #17
    The name sounds impressive, but isn't it actually just one guy?
    24AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:21
    Who exactly are they "discussing" this with, lol
    31AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:22
    Re: #24
    Haha, fair. Really it just comes down to: hurry up and give the money back already.
    40AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:26
    Re: #24
    Their imaginary in-house legal counsel. Or maybe "Chappy" (Japanese slang nickname for ChatGPT).
    35AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:24
    Re: #1 The money's probably already almost all gone lol 🥹
    44AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:26
    Re: #1
    Didn't the Sanriku Fireworks Festival also say it would refund people and then never actually did?
    Is this just about staying under the legal bar for fraud while they stall for time?
    Seems pretty obvious that the longer this drags on, the more the money gets moved around and the harder it becomes to ever recover.
    54AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:29
    Re: #44
    If this really isn't fraud, they should just say "we will refund in full" instead of "we're looking into it." They should announce a concrete date for the refund process, and do it on the official website — not on social media.
    46AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:27
    There's no way a one-man fireworks show with no sponsors or backers was ever going to break even. What was this organizer even planning to do?
    51AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:28
    They're probably just busy funneling away the money they scammed out of people.
    64AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:31
    Re: #1
    If they'd actually been making preparations and then had to stop, fine — but they've only ever pretended to be making progress, so it's more accurate to say this is just building themselves an alibi for later excuses.

    Aggressive about collecting money, zero about paying it back out — that's the real answer here.
    73AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:33
    Re: #64
    If people paid by card, the sales would already be locked in at the end-of-month settlement anyway.
    65AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:31
    Next year: further acceleration of deliberations.
    The year after: resolute scrutiny and refund preparations.
    The year after that: we'll bring you next-dimension, unprecedented refund measures (mocking the government's habit of promising "unprecedented" policy fixes that never arrive).
    68AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:32
    Re: #65
    Is this the North Korean fried-rice method, lol (a jab at hollow propaganda promises with nothing to actually show for it)?
    67AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:32
    The police are moving way too slowly on this.
    76AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:34
    Re: #67
    If they're showing intent to refund and none of the people who paid have filed a police report, the police can't just move on their own.

    So it comes down to how long they can keep stringing people along by continuing to claim they intend to refund.
    82AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:35
    Re: #76
    Not even a single police report has been filed????
    69AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:32
    Isn't this just people who tried to cheat their way into good seats getting burned?
    90AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:37
    Re: #69
    Paying money for a good seat isn't cheating in any way, lol.
    103AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:42
    Re: #69
    Even if some people did buy tickets hoping for good seats, that's not cheating at all. And the main victims here are the food vendors and other stallholders. You clearly don't get it.
    72AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:33
    Have they filed for bankruptcy?
    80AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:34
    Re: #72
    That's the next phase.
    81AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:34
    Re: #72
    If it's fraud, the debt doesn't get discharged in bankruptcy, but if it's treated as an ordinary commercial debt it would be — so they might be dragging this out just to set up bankruptcy proceedings.
    130AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:56
    They haven't spent it on anything, so the money's probably just sitting there.
    132AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:57
    Re: #130
    Maybe they blew it all at the pachinko parlor, who knows.
    136AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:58
    Re: #130
    It's probably already been moved to another account, someone else's name, some company's account, or into crypto by now.
    168AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:10
    Seat fees for a fireworks festival aren't a "product" in the legal sense to begin with, so they're not covered by the cooling-off system anyway.
    179AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:15
    Re: #168
    The biggest fireworks festival where I live charges rip-off prices, and whether it's cancelled for bad weather or cut short by equipment trouble, they never refund a single yen — the well-off crowd who go just accept that's how it is.
    189AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:18
    Re: #168
    That's not what an AI would tell you. All I can say is there's a serious legal problem here — but online purchases are excluded from the cooling-off system. Seems like once you buy online, that's just it. The law hasn't caught up.

    Background and Key Points

    Lake Biwa, Japan’s largest lake, sits in Shiga Prefecture, and lakeside fireworks festivals are one of the region’s biggest summer draws, historically free events funded by sponsors and municipal budgets that in recent years have shifted toward paid reserved seating as costs and crowd-control needs have risen. Events like this are typically run by a “jikkō iinkai” (executive committee), a loose, often unregistered coalition of local businesses, municipalities, and volunteers assembled just for the occasion — a structure that has no legal personality of its own, which is why posters could plausibly ask whether an “executive committee” here means an actual organization or effectively one individual collecting money under an official-sounding name.

    The thread’s real fault line wasn’t whether the festival should have refunded people — everyone agreed on that — but whether the vague “we are proceeding on the premise of refunds” language is a genuine holding statement or a calculated way to avoid crossing into criminal fraud (which under Japanese law requires proving deceptive intent at the time money was collected) while stalling. Posters also disagreed on who the real victims are: ticket buyers, or the food-stall vendors who fronted costs to participate.

    What outside readers will likely miss is a legal detail one poster raised almost in passing: Japan’s cooling-off system, which lets consumers cancel certain contracts, explicitly excludes online purchases, so buyers here have essentially no statutory refund right to fall back on. It’s also worth knowing Japanese police generally won’t open a fraud investigation on economic cases like this until a victim files a formal complaint (higai todoke) — meaning nothing moves until buyers themselves go to the police, not the other way around.

    *This article compiles excerpts and a summary from the 5ch (Breaking News+) thread “‘Refunds Are the Premise for Discussions’ — Committee for Cancelled ‘Lake Biwa Three-City Simultaneous Fireworks Festival’ Updates SNS, Specific Method, Timing, and Scope Still Undecided.”

  • NTV Airs My Neighbor Totoro — 5ch Live Thread: ‘Satsuki Is Way Too Much of a Young Carer’

    NTV aired My Neighbor Totoro, and 5ch’s live-viewing thread quickly filled up with movie trivia and behind-the-scenes tidbits.

    Standouts included the behind-the-scenes story of how the sisters Satsuki and Mei were a last-minute addition due to production circumstances, plus comments from viewers who, rewatching as adults, felt a pang noticing how Satsuki handles cooking and housework for all three family members like a “young carer” (a child shouldering adult caregiving duties). The thread also touched on how viewing experiences differ by generation.

    1AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:04
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    2AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:05
    Guess I'll rewatch My Neighbor Toro-Toro (playful typo for Totoro) for the first time in ages
    8AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:14
    I love the scene where Mei eats the marbles, and the one where she cries "But that's our rice!"
    10AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:16
    Kokoro!
    Oh, your name is Kokoro!
    Ko-koro
    11AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:19
    Satsuki (Japanese for "May") and Mei (sounds like the English "May") — their parents had a funny sense of humor
    20AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:50
    Re: #11
    Totoro's heroine was originally just one girl, but Totoro's runtime got extended to match Grave of the Fireflies, whose length had grown for production reasons — so they hastily added a second character, making them sisters to fill the extra time
    14AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:25
    They start out fighting,
    but by the end they're calling each other "Satsuki~" and "Kan-chan~"
    Stay tuned for how their little romance turns out
    15AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:29
    It's not really fighting — it's that classic boyish thing of teasing a girl you like as a clumsy way of showing affection
    19AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:43
    Though quite a few older folks have never actually seen it
    24AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:59
    Re: #19
    I'm 47 now, and my whole class watched it in school, and so did the grades below mine
    But a lot of people 50 and older probably never saw it
    22AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:55
    I've loved this movie since I was a kid, but the older I get, the more Satsuki's young-carer situation makes me tear up out of pity
    Making breakfast and lunchboxes for all three of them, dealing with Mei throwing a tantrum and showing up at her elementary school — Satsuki's just too pitiful, I can't handle it
    32AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:06
    Re: #22
    To balance that out,
    she suddenly bursts into tears partway through the film,
    and they even have the mother say "Satsuki has it rough"
    43AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:23
    A bath scene ("NY," thread shorthand for nyūyoku/bathing) like this probably wouldn't fly nowadays
    54AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:37
    Re: #43
    I think it actually caused controversy overseas, or got cut
    Apparently in other countries fathers and daughters don't bathe together
    46AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:26
    That granny's probably around 50
    going by how people used to age back then
    48AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:27
    Re: #46
    Yeah, that's right (*-ω-)
    She's definitely in her 50s (o^∀^o)
    50AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:30
    Re: #48
    It's a Japanese-style squat toilet!
    53AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:32
    Re: #50
    What of it?! (*`ω´*)
    51AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:30
    Satsuki's basically Conan at this point (Miyazaki's Future Boy Conan)
    56AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:37
    Re: #51
    Isn't that more like Kiki from Kiki's Delivery Service?
    52AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:30
    [Miyazaki] really likes putting kids to work, huh
    57AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:39
    Re: #52
    I can still understand Pazu working out of necessity like in Castle in the Sky,
    but seeing Satsuki forced to do all this work is heartbreaking
    She has a father, and probably grandparents too — why make the kid do it?
    55AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:37
    Yaaay! (‘0’)
    60AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:40
    Re: #55
    ( ‘д‘⊂彡☆))Д´) *WHACK*
    62AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:41
    Re: #60
    Guess even someone with a jaded heart like you watches Totoro?! (ノ`Д´)ノ彡┻━┻ (table-flip kaomoji)
    63AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:42
    Sleeping on that belly looks like the dream, doesn't it
    64AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:43
    Re: #63
    I wanna lie down on Totoro's belly toooo! Toooo! Toooo! Toooo! (ノ≧∀≦)ノ
    74AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:57
    Kanta's spirit of self-sacrifice is so noble! So noble! So noble! So noble! (≧ω≦。)
    76AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:58
    Re: #74
    ( ‘д‘⊂彡☆))Д´) *WHACK*
    83AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:05
    Good evening🌙



    This is Ayana Murakoshi


    Watching My Neighbor Totoro right now^⦿ – ⦿^


    Just got to the scene where Mei meets Totoro👀


    Seriously! Mei! So cute♡♡
    84AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:06
    Re: #83
    Mu-ra-ko-shi♪ shi♪ shi♪ shi♪ゞ(^o^ゝ)≡(/^_^)/"
    Mu-ra-ko-shi♪ shi♪ shi♪ shi♪ゞ(^o^ゝ)≡(/^_^)/"
    Mu-ra-ko-shi♪ shi♪ shi♪ shi♪ゞ(^o^ゝ)≡(/^_^)/"
    87AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:09
    Re: #84
    "My Sludgy Neighbor" (a mocking pun on the title) is on streaming anytime, you can watch it whenever
    89AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:11
    Re: #87
    Watching it together with everyone is what makes it good( =^ω^)
    92AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:25
    Re: #89
    Can I… go take a dump real quick?
    106AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:47
    They didn't air Grave of the Fireflies this year, huh
    108AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:48
    Re: #106
    They aired it last year for the first time in a while though(o´・ω・`o)
    113AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:52
    "My Neighbor Totoro"

    right now


    I love this Ghibli picture quality

    https://ameblo.jp/rosychronicle/entry-12976406930.html
    115AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:55
    Re: #113
    Yaaay! (‘0’)
    I got to watch Totoro together with Hasumi-chan! Yaay! Yaay! Yaay! Yaay!ヽ(*≧ω≦)ノ

    Background and Key Points

    My Neighbor Totoro (1988) is Studio Ghibli’s fourth feature, directed by Hayao Miyazaki and set in rural Japan around the Showa 30s (mid-1950s), when a hospitalized mother and a scholarly father were common shorthand for postwar family strain. NTV has rebroadcast Ghibli films for decades as part of its Friday-night movie slot, and each airing still draws a live “実況” (real-time commentary) thread on 5ch, a tradition that predates Twitter live-tweeting and treats the broadcast as a shared national event rather than a rewatch on demand. The film originally premiered as half of a double bill with Grave of the Fireflies, and the trivia repeated in the thread — that Totoro’s heroine was conceived as a single girl before Satsuki and Mei were split into two sisters to pad the runtime to match its darker companion film — is a well-documented production anecdote, not thread speculation.

    Where the thread actually diverges is between posters treating the film as pure nostalgia (wordplay on the sisters’ names, the marble-eating scene, kaomoji reactions) and a smaller group reading Satsuki’s cooking and housekeeping through the modern lens of “young carer” (ヤングケアラー), a term that has only become common in Japanese social-policy discourse in the last several years as surveys revealed how normalized uncompensated child caregiving still is.

    What the thread never raises is that this labor wouldn’t have read as remarkable to an original 1988 audience: an eldest daughter running the household while a parent was hospitalized was unremarkable domestic reality in the setting’s era, which is precisely why applying today’s “young carer” framework to Satsuki feels like a retroactive diagnosis rather than a period-accurate observation.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “■ My Neighbor Totoro, NTV, 21:00~.”

  • Okayama High Schooler Approached by Stocky 50-Something Man: “I Used to Play Soccer Too, Ya Know” Sparks Buzz

    In a schoolyard in Okayama’s Higashi Ward, a stocky man in his 50s walked up to a male high schooler with the lines “I used to play soccer too, ya know” and “Mind lending me that ball for a sec?” — and got reported as a suspicious person.

    On 5ch, alongside skepticism that this even counts as an incident, commenters piled on comparisons to former pro players — “what’s left of Roberto Hongo” (a flamboyant street-soccer entertainer), “total Sergio Echigo” (the Brazilian-born football pundit famous in Japan) — and the thread also lit up with a running debate over why “suspicious person” reports always seem to describe someone stocky.

    According to Okayama Prefectural Police, at around 2:35 PM on August 20, a man approached a male high schooler at a sports ground near Shiono, Seto-cho, Higashi Ward, Okayama City.

    (Description of the individual: male, late 40s to 50s, graying hair, stocky build, navy work clothes)

    ■ Circumstances at the time

    Source: news.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:22
    Reeks of a lonely guy who just wanted a friend
    3AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:22
    Wait, what even counts as "suspicious" these days?
    134AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:41
    Re: #3
    A nice little cash cow — lets them log some investigation expenses
    7AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:23
    If this were Captain Tsubasa (the soccer anime), that guy would be a certified ex-pro
    255AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:56
    Re: #7
    A drunk, scruffy foreigner bursting into a kids' soccer practice — even Roberto Hongo would get reported on the spot if he tried that today
    12AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:24
    What's left of Roberto Hongo
    211AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:51
    Re: #12
    Roberto Hongo used to be an ace-caliber player for the Brazil national team, you know
    He's on a whole different level from some guy who just dabbled in soccer
    232AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:53
    Re: #12
    More like Sergio Echigo
    23AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:27
    The ball is his only friend
    259AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:56
    Re: #23
    Should be "wa," not "ga"
    With that particle it really sounds like the ball's the only friend he's got
    32AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:28
    I can do 200 keepy-uppies too, you know
    83AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:35
    Re: #32
    Juggling's all about how little effort you can get away with — once you can do a few dozen, going further is basically pointless lol
    42AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:29
    Seriously, go on a diet already, all of you lol
    46AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:30
    Bet he was bald and fat
    If he'd had a full head of hair and a lean build, he'd have walked free
    48AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:30
    If this were baseball, it'd definitely be this guy
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nDCMEZxifE
    72AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:33
    Re: #48
    Nah, for baseball it'd be this guy
    https://www.nikkansports.com/m/baseball/news/1603090_m.html
    51AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:30
    What crime did he even commit?
    96AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:37
    Re: #51
    No crime, technically.
    Just "suspicious" (cue nervous sweat)
    74AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:33
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnYbV_MUEAAWvcj.jpg
    88AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:36
    What's so wrong with that?
    Is being a middle-aged guy a crime now? (´;ω;`)
    116AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:39
    Re: #88
    Same with shorts, same with hoodies
    The media's been greenlighting and airing this whole "bash middle-aged men" thing for a while now.
    97AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:37
    Why are "suspicious persons" always stocky?
    Why never lean and muscular?
    262AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:56
    Re: #97
    With middle-aged guys, appearance is basically the tell for whether someone knows where the line is or not
    Build, hairstyle, whatever — if someone can't keep themselves groomed, they're… that type
    118AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:39
    Guess you just can't talk to strangers anymore
    Even if someone's dying right in front of you, better to just walk on by
    130AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:41
    Re: #118
    Yeah, help a drunk passed out on the street and you'll probably get accused of stealing his wallet anyway
    120AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:40
    Even door-to-door salesmen sometimes get flagged as "suspicious person" alerts from schools
    148AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:43
    Re: #120
    Can't really blame them — there's always a chance it's a burglar scoping the place out
    That's how they mark mailboxes to flag houses where a woman lives alone
    175AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:46
    Whoever reported this was definitely a bully back in the day
    Fair enough if it were an elementary schooler, but calling this "suspicious" for a male high schooler is a stretch
    186AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:48
    Re: #175
    Guess he just looked suspicious
    185AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:48
    Probably figured he was lying because he's stocky
    206AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:51
    Re: #185
    Ah I see
    So his look just didn't scream "I used to play soccer too, ya know," huh lol
    233AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:53
    Re: #185
    Plenty of former legends are stocky too lol
    198AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:50
    I'm the smart one here, avoiding eye contact with babies these days
    Look at one, smile at one, and you'll get reported
    207AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:51
    Re: #198
    👶: "Ew, creepy"
    213AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:52
    Dude, that's not soccer
    That's kemari (an ancient Japanese ball-kicking court game)
    242AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:54
    Re: #213
    "I used to play too" (back in the Heian era, he means)
    251AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:55
    50s, stocky
    http://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgZCnZLUEAA-I3G.jpg
    260AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:56
    Re: #251
    He was in that Slendertone ab-toner commercial lol
    Sugimura Taizo (TV personality/ex-lawmaker) was in it too

    Background and Key Points

    Some things I looked up for background weren’t in the article at all, so I’ll rely only on what’s given.

    Japan’s “fushinsha” (suspicious person) reporting system is the informal backbone of school-area safety here: schools and neighborhood watch networks push out alerts whenever an adult’s contact with a child feels off, and prefectural police, as in this Okayama Higashi Ward case, log and publicize even encounters with no crime, no threat, and no request beyond borrowing a soccer ball. That practice is why so many of these bulletins read like non-events to outsiders — the bar is “made someone uncomfortable,” not “broke a law,” and the 5ch crowd’s own question, “what even counts as suspicious these days,” reflects a real gap between what the alert system flags and what average readers would consider incident-worthy.

    Notably, the thread didn’t split over whether the report was justified at all — nearly everyone agreed a man politely asking to join or borrow a ball from a high schooler is a thin basis for a police bulletin. The actual fault line was narrower: whether the man’s stocky, unkempt look was itself grounds for suspicion, versus the counterpoint that plenty of retired star athletes (the running Roberto Hongo and Sergio Echigo comparisons) are stocky too, so build says nothing about intent.

    What outside readers will likely miss is that this bulletin cost the man nothing legally — Japan has no loitering or “suspicious approach” statute triggered here, per the thread’s own “no crime, technically” exchange. The police release exists purely as a community advisory, meaning the subject’s description and vague conduct are now public with no charge ever filed or contemplated. The article also never says whether the boy actually handed over the ball or how the encounter ended.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Breaking News Plus) thread “Suspicious person incident in Okayama: stocky man in his 50s approaches male high schooler with lines like ‘I used to play soccer too, ya know’ and ‘Mind lending me the ball for a bit?’”.

  • Shizuoka City to Lose ¥2.7 Billion from Consumption Tax Cut — Mayor Demands Government Compensation, as Local Governments Nationwide Face ¥1.6 Trillion Annual Shortfall

    At a press conference on the 21st, Shizuoka Mayor Takashi Namba revealed that the consumption tax cut on food would shrink local tax grants by ¥2.7 billion a year, and called on the national government to provide compensation. The government plans to cut the consumption tax rate on food from 8% to 1% for two years starting next April, with local governments nationwide expected to lose roughly ¥1.6 trillion a year in revenue. On 5ch, comments clashed between those questioning civil servants’ pay and how local assembly members spend their budgets, and those questioning the funding debate itself.

    Regarding the consumption tax cut on food, Shizuoka Mayor Takashi Namba called on the national government at his regular press conference on the 21st to take compensatory measures so that grants to local governments aren’t reduced.

    Shizuoka Mayor Takashi Namba: “The impact of the cut, in Shizuoka’s case, comes to ¥2.7 billion in local consumption tax grants. Without an alternative funding source, this would end up affecting things like social security, so we’d like the national government to put compensatory measures in place.”

    As part of its response to rising prices, the government plans to cut the consumption tax rate on food from the current 8% to 1% for two years starting April 1 next year, but local governments are expected to lose roughly ¥1.6 trillion a year in revenue, and calls are growing for securing alternative funding.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:05
    Re: #1
    The real question is how much they're actually raking in.
    194AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:39
    Re: #4
    It's basically all civil servant salaries.
    Nothing costs more than personnel expenses.
    6AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:05
    Re: #1
    Ever consider that the tax cut might boost spending and actually raise revenue?
    19AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:09
    Re: #6
    You gonna eat three times as much every day? lolol
    8AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:07
    Won't this ultimately just mean higher insurance premiums and city taxes for residents?
    205AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:58
    Re: #8
    That's really the only option left.
    Or they cut various support programs —
    child medical subsidies, free childcare support centers, that kind of thing.
    11AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:08
    Which prefecture was it that whined about blocking the maglev line and ended up burning through even more budget? (a jab at Shizuoka's own holdup of the Linear Chuo Shinkansen project)
    20AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:09
    Why not just raise taxes in Shizuoka City specifically?
    They've got resident tax and the like, so it should be doable, right?
    31AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:13
    Re: #20
    They could just declare "Public services will collapse!" and hike resident tax for two years to cover it — whether they'd win public support is another story.
    27AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:11
    Sending local assembly members on lavish overseas junkets,
    handing civil servants cushy post-retirement jobs (amakudari)…

    Local governments clearly have money to spare.
    58AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:19
    Re: #27
    Then why are Kumamoto's disaster victims still sleeping on gym floors?
    60AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:20
    Re: #58
    Because Kumamoto's local assembly members and civil servants
    won't spend tax money
    on the people who actually need it.
    74AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:27
    Re: #58 Volunteers desperately needed
    33AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:13
    Just cut ¥2.7 billion in waste — problem solved.
    43AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:15
    Re: #33
    Cut city officials' pay by ¥300,000 a year and there'd be plenty of slack.
    Cut the assembly members' and mayor's pay too and you could shrink it even further.
    35AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:13
    Re: #1
    This lousy administration acts like tax revenue is just owed to them.
    202AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:54
    Re: #35
    I mean, tax revenue flowing to the government is kind of the whole point?
    38AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:14
    Like in Europe, local assembly members should just be volunteers.

    And civil servant paperwork could be handled by AI.
    80AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:29
    Re: #38
    That would mean only people with outside income could afford to be assembly members.
    Also, it'd make it easier for them to funnel favors for personal gain.
    40AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:14
    Re: #1
    If you love the funding debate so much, just roll back the corporate tax cuts that came with every consumption tax hike, and scrap the export refunds too (i.e., abolish the consumption tax).

    And they're already raking it in thanks to the weak yen.

    Guess you can't say that when you're a lapdog of Keidanren (the big-business federation)…

    By the way:
    🐨 Tax cuts don't need a funding source
    🐼 The only "funding source" is government bonds
    🐻 Taxes were never a funding source to begin with

    https://up.gc-img.ne…Tvfyj_ONLQh_207.jpeg

    ● Over ¥600 trillion in tax breaks for big corporations and the wealthy

    ● ¥12 trillion a year in refunds to exporting companies

    ● ¥27 trillion a year on civil servant salaries
    45AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:16
    Maybe it's because it has fewer companies than Hamamatsu, but Shizuoka City really has no financial cushion.
    59AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:19
    Re: #45
    Well yeah, the population drain just won't stop.
    47AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:18
    Meanwhile the assembly delegation is off on an overseas trip on the taxpayer's dime.
    54AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:18
    Re: #47
    Local governments really do have money to burn.
    65AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:24
    40% of consumption tax revenue funds local governments.
    It was obvious from the start that localities would take a devastating hit.
    There's no way the powers that be who ordered this tax cut didn't know that.
    67AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:25
    Re: #65
    They're already working on it — all that's left is hashing out how to fund the compensation.
    79AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:29
    Re: #65
    The opposition has never actually had to run the country, so they can irresponsibly demand a flat 5% or 8% rate.
    73AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:27
    This is pure vested-interest behavior at this point.
    "Our cut is shrinking, so compensate us" —
    what nerve!
    78AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:28
    Re: #73
    They're living off citizens' tax money and still have the gall to complain!
    83AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:30
    I think it's absurd that local civil servants' pay is higher than, or even on par with, national civil servants'.
    Local civil servant salaries should be cut.
    90AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:32
    Re: #83
    Because if you cut it, you won't attract young people.
    Just make up the shortfall from the Employment Ice Age generation (Japan's generation who struggled to find jobs after the 1990s–2000s recession).
    91AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:32
    If they raise taxes again, they should hand that increase straight back to the national government.
    101AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:34
    Re: #91
    Of course once the two years are up and the rate reverts, the compensation will obviously vanish too.
    115AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:41
    Re: #80
    I don't know which country you mean, but how do places where assembly members work for low pay or as volunteers even function?
    132AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:49
    Re: #115
    If you think the UK is doing a good job of it, fine, go with that.

    Background and Key Points

    Japan’s consumption tax runs at 10%, but food and non-alcoholic drinks already sit at a reduced 8% under the dual-rate system introduced in 2019. The government’s new plan cuts that food rate further, to 1%, for two years from April 2026 — a much steeper reduction than the “10% to 8%” framing most coverage uses. Crucially, a fixed slice of consumption tax revenue — the *chihō shōhizei* (local consumption tax) — is earmarked for prefectures and municipalities by statutory formula and funds ordinary budget items, social security programs among them. Shizuoka’s ¥2.7 billion loss and the nationwide ¥1.6 trillion figure both come from that mechanism, not from any discretionary local tax.

    The thread’s real fault line wasn’t over whether the tax cut is good policy, but over who should absorb the shortfall. One camp pointed at local government spending itself — personnel costs, assembly members’ overseas trips, amakudari retirement placements — as fat that should be cut before asking Tokyo for money. The other treated the “funding source” framing as a category error, arguing (in MMT-adjacent terms) that tax cuts don’t require an offsetting revenue source at all, since bond issuance already fills gaps.

    What’s missing from the thread is any acknowledgment that Japanese local civil servant pay isn’t set arbitrarily — it’s benchmarked against national pay scales via the Laspeyres index, adjusted regionally, so claims that local salaries are simply bloated skip over the mechanism that actually determines them. Readers should also note the national government hasn’t yet specified how — or whether — it will compensate municipalities once the two-year cut ends; posters assumed compensation lapses with the rate reversion, but that isn’t confirmed policy.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Breaking News+) thread “Shizuoka City to Lose ¥2.7 Billion from Consumption Tax Cut — Mayor Demands Compensation Measures from Government; Local Governments Facing ¥1.6 Trillion Annual Shortfall, Calls Grow for Alternative Funding”.

  • Message Board ‘Edge’ Set to Shut Down in 10 Hours — Some on 5ch’s NanG Board Say ‘Serves Them Right’

    A notice that the anonymous message board “Edge” will shut down in 10 hours has been circulating, sparking discussion on 5ch’s NanG board (“Nanidemo Jikkyō G,” a sports/live-discussion board). Reactions ranged from jabs at users who defected to Edge during a past board-split controversy, to questions about the board’s management and its ID-display system.

    Notice from the Edge administrator on what happens next

    Source: ligshtshot.site / Original article here

    9AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:28
    Ohh man…
    Edge helped me out with a lot of stuff, gonna miss it.
    11AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:29
    Thanks for everything, admin 😢
    12AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:29
    It was a good containment board (a place to dump the problem posters) — feels like NanG's about to get messy again.
    15AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:29
    Thought it was a troll post, but it's real.
    Startled me for a second, but well, can't be helped.
    17AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:29
    Kenmo (another 5ch board) works fine for me
    never went to Edge once the whole time.
    21AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:30
    Wonder what face those guys are gonna make crawling back to NanG.
    23AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:30
    They kept posting those shady stealth-marketing replies steering people over there, the whole time.
    25AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:30
    Shutting down right as China cracks down harder on VPNs for overseas access and Edge becomes totally unreachable from the mainland…? Suspicious timing.
    30AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:31
    They'd occasionally come shill it over here — guess they were desperate.
    35AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:32
    Isn't this thread just some guy who got banned on Edge starting it out of spite?
    39AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:32
    Edge people, get out of NanG.
    41AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:32
    Please don't come crawling back.
    Go to Open2ch instead, pretty please.
    42AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:33
    Hang in there a little longer
    please don't unleash the baseball-thread "named" regulars and the affiliate-blog scum
    back onto the world.
    44AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:33
    Can't we divert the refugees somewhere else so they don't end up here?
    46AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:33
    They're not really coming back here anyway.
    It's fine, it's fine.
    47AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:33
    I'm stuck — can't get verified on Edge over a mobile connection.
    51AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:34
    Re: #1
    Isn't this just a troll post…?
    I'm holding my head in my hands.
    52AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:34
    What face are the ones who fled gonna make when they come crawling back? 🤪
    55AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:35
    To begin with, Edge's thread-creation ID feature didn't change for an entire week — which basically meant everyone's Wachoi (partial-IP ID tag) was exposed the whole time.
    That's not an anonymous board.
    Of course a place like that was bound to collapse.
    56AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:35
    They were acting so full of themselves just a little while ago, why did it come to this 😢
    58AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:35
    What even are Edge and Talk in the first place?
    I heard bits about someone called Tarako getting pushed out or something.
    59AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:35
    If it means NanG gets livelier, that's fine by me.
    We're generous, so we welcome them.
    60AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:35
    It was creepy how the Edge admin just quietly let stuff get reposted to Kinisoku and other affiliate-aggregator blogs.
    Wonder how much they were getting paid.
    61AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:36
    Why don't they just go to whichever NanJ board isn't being used these days.
    64AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:36
    LMAOOOO wwwwwwwwwwww
    66AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:37
    When did the split even happen? Can't remember.
    67AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:37
    Edge people should just go recycle NanJ instead.

    Background and Key Points

    5ch is the successor to the pioneering forum 2channel and remains Japan’s largest anonymous message-board network, organized into hundreds of topic boards. NanG (“Nanidemo Jikkyō G,” roughly “Anything Live-Discussion G”) is one of its most active and culturally distinctive boards, built around sports commentary but functioning as a general hangout with its own slang and humor. Like many long-running 5ch communities, NanG has periodically split when disputes among regulars or moderators pushed a faction to found a splinter board elsewhere — Edge appears to be one such offshoot, alongside another called Talk. This pattern of schism, exile, and eventual limping return is common in 5ch culture, distinct from anything like a corporate platform shutdown; boards are informally run and can appear or disappear with little institutional weight behind them.

    The thread doesn’t split over whether Edge’s closure is good or bad — nearly everyone treats it as deserved. The actual disagreement is over what happens next: whether returning Edge users should be welcomed back into NanG to reinvigorate it, or should be turned away and redirected to Open2ch (a separate free alternative board community) or an idle NanJ offshoot instead.

    What outside readers are likely to miss is that this “shutdown” is unverified even within the thread — several posters explicitly wonder if the whole notice is a troll post or a grudge post from a banned user, and the article never confirms otherwise. Readers may also assume Edge was a major platform; in context it reads as a small, contested splinter community whose founding grievance (something involving a user called Tarako) is never actually explained by anyone in the thread.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (NanG) thread “[Breaking] Message Board Edge Set to Shut Down in 10 Hours WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.”

  • Justice Ministry Pulls Tie-In Poster With Netflix’s “Ravu Jōtō” After Backlash on Social Media

    Japan’s Ministry of Justice announced it is scrapping a tie-up poster campaign with Netflix’s romance reality show “Ravu Jōtō” (“Bring It On, Love”) after the collaboration drew a wave of criticism. On 5ch, users voiced discomfort at a government agency’s public messaging being tied to a show themed around rehabilitation, along with questions about how the campaign was ever approved in the first place.

    Published 8/21 (Fri) 5:00 PM

    FNN Prime Online (Fuji TV Group)

    The Ministry of Justice announced that it is ending its tie-up with a poster campaign for Netflix’s romance reality show “Ravu Jōtō,” citing a wave of public criticism among other factors.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:11
    Actors are playing the roles here — so are there even any actual victims?
    5AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:12
    Money down the drain, seriously.
    Public servants really are a bunch of clueless morons.
    87AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:03
    Re: #5
    Mission accomplished — they got to funnel public money to their buddies, that was the whole point.
    6AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:12
    They didn't even need a tie-up — prisons are already packed with criminals.
    Should've just used death row inmates. Those guys definitely aren't reoffending, right?
    7AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:13
    Not to channel Ryo-san from 'Kochikame,' but this is the whole issue — why do people who did bad things and then "rehabilitated" get put on a pedestal over people who just lived honestly the whole time?
    No matter how much you rehabilitate, the people you once hurt never actually forgive you.
    187AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:57
    Re: #7
    Is this it?
    191AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:02
    Re: #187
    Hard to argue with that. Classic Ryo-san.
    8AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:13
    Then go ahead and protect the human rights of people who never even got prosecuted too, huh?
    15AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:15
    So this is MEGUMI's pet project — you know, the one who sat down for a chat with the Prime Minister—
    21AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:20
    Re: #15
    Wow, what a convenient little connection.
    24AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:22
    Honestly I think it's a cool, well-made poster.
    31AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:27
    Re: #24
    What's "Rehabilitation, Bring It On" even supposed to mean lol.
    Is the finale gonna have them slick their hair into a side part, put on black-rimmed glasses and a suit, and do a full dogeza apology to their victims?
    161AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:23
    Re: #24
    They clearly haven't reflected on a single thing…
    183AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:51
    Re: #24
    That camera angle is gross too — like we're crawling on the ground looking up at them from their feet.

    That's literally a dogeza (groveling-apology) point of view.
    30AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:27
    https://contents.oricon.co.jp/upimg/news/2474000/2473930/20260810_204349_p_o_99347012.jpg
    lol
    Can't believe this tie-up campaign actually got approved inside a government ministry.
    162AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:24
    Re: #30
    Which one's Gomaki's (idol Maki Goto's) nephew?
    45AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:34
    Obviously — but what kind of nerve does it take to leave the victims out of the picture entirely?
    90AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:06
    Re: #45
    The "elites" be like: "Well, it didn't personally bother me, so…"
    73AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:48
    If it's gonna be a reality show, I'd rather watch past bullying victims get revenge on the bullies who are living it up now.

    Watch them lose their jobs, their status, get their engagements called off — basically watch their lives fall apart, right there in everyone's living room.
    It'd double as moral education for kids today too.
    81AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:54
    Re: #73
    That wouldn't be realistic at all, and it wouldn't be exciting either.
    If you're gonna do it, it'd be way more realistic — and more entertaining — to watch a cocky former bullying victim get beaten right back down.
    107AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:25
    The Justice Ministry… must be full of sheltered rich-kid types who have no clue about the real world.
    110AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:29
    Re: #107
    Probably never experienced a shred of violence in their lives either.
    108AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:26
    Maybe the Justice Ministry should rehabilitate itself first.
    143AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:00
    Re: #108
    And of course, zero accountability for flushing a huge pile of tax money down the drain!
    121AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:39
    The Justice Ministry stepping right on a landmine it could clearly see.
    It was a landmine, so of course it went off.

    Why'd you step on it in the first place?
    127AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:45
    Re: #121
    Probably because they think it's the weak one's own fault for being weak.
    122AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:40
    Turns out some shady types were feasting on tax money — busted.
    Seriously, who in the government came up with this plan lol
    130AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:48
    Well done, Justice Ministry.
    It's rare for a rigid government agency to actually reverse a decision — that's a nice upside of this SNS-driven democratization.

    That said, whoever at the Ministry first greenlit the collab with 'Ravu Jōtō' bears heavy responsibility.
    Discipline that staffer properly and make sure it hits their performance review hard.
    Don't you dare spend tax money cozying up to criminals, whoever planned this!
    144AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:01
    I want whoever at the Justice Ministry spearheaded this collab to show their face and explain themselves.
    171AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:31
    A troublemaker does one good deed on a whim → "See, deep down So-and-so's actually a good person."
    A normally serious person happens to forget an event and skips it → "See, deep down So-and-so's actually got a dark side."

    It's just not fair, honestly.
    177AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:39
    Re: #171
    That's the gain-loss effect, isn't it.
    175AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:37
    "He's so loyal and warm-hearted to his own people!" — yeah, that's just an echo chamber talking.
    182AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:48
    Re: #175
    Even Pol Pot was apparently kind to his own family.
    Humans are social animals, so being nice to the people close to you is just baseline stuff — practically on the level of eating and sleeping.

    Background and Key Points

    The Ministry of Justice’s rehabilitation apparatus rests heavily on hogoshi (保護司), unpaid volunteer probation officers who supervise parolees and ex-offenders in their communities. The system is chronically short-staffed and aging, which is why the ministry regularly runs PR campaigns, often fronted by TV personalities, to humanize offender reintegration (kōsei hogo, 更生保護) and recruit sympathy or new volunteers. That context explains why a government agency would tie its messaging to a Netflix dating show at all: the pitch was presumably not “watch a fun reality show” but “support second chances,” a framing that made sense internally but read very differently once the poster reached the public. MEGUMI, mentioned repeatedly in the thread, has been publicly associated with the ministry’s rehabilitation-support outreach and reportedly met with the prime minister, which is why posters treated her involvement as a red flag rather than a coincidence.

    The thread doesn’t really split over whether cancelling the poster was right; almost everyone agrees it was overdue. The actual fault line is between posters angry that public funds went to a poorly vetted collaboration at all (waste, cronyism, no accountability) and the smaller subset engaging with the harder question the ministry’s mission actually raises: whether public sympathy campaigns for rehabilitated offenders implicitly sideline victims and law-abiding citizens who get no comparable spotlight.

    What’s likely to be missed by outside readers is that this wasn’t a random corporate tie-in gone wrong; it sits inside a real, ongoing policy problem, a shrinking, unpaid volunteer corps the ministry has struggled for years to replenish, which the thread never engages with directly.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Breaking News+) thread “[Justice Ministry] “Ravu Jōtō” Tie-In Poster Cancelled — “This Is Not a Denial of the Cast or Their Rehabilitation Efforts” — Criticism Mounts on Social Media.”

  • Uemura Aarie’s Time as Leader Praised for Its Good Vibes — 5ch: ‘A Gal Who’s Kind Even to Introverts’

    A thread looking back on the atmosphere in Morning Musume during Uemura Aarie’s time as leader has appeared on 5ch’s Hello! Project board. Some say it was a much-needed period of recovery from the tense mood of the original-member era, while others argue she wasn’t really suited to being leader — opinions are split on what the group’s vibe was really like back then.

    1AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:27
    Eba (nickname for a member) got treated pretty carelessly at times
    2AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:29
    It was exactly the breathing room the group needed to get away from all that tension.
    3AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:30
    I guess Tomoko really was scary after all, huh?
    44AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:21
    Re: #3
    Not really — it's just that the group barely had any activities because it overlapped with the COVID pandemic.
    4AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:30
    A lot of credit for creating that good atmosphere goes to Aarie's efforts.
    13AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:38
    The vibe was great — but there wasn't really a mindset of trying to improve their skills.
    32AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:08
    Re: #13
    That's not true. Back then they were given tons of freedom to improvise, and sure, some of it fell flat, but that experience is exactly what led to where they are now. Has Hello! Project ever let members run that free before?
    14AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:38
    I get they want people to buy her photobook, but lately Uemura and her fans seem way too eager to cozy up to Juice=Juice, and it's kind of off-putting.
    22AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:46
    Re: #14
    Uemura fans are always in 'Ookami' (the Morning Musume fan board on 5ch), no matter what.
    17AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:39
    Uemura and Ishiyama holding hands at the fireworks show

    27AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:51
    30AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:00
    I never disliked Aarie, but I don't think she was cut out to be leader. Credit to her for trying hard, though.
    34AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:10
    Re: #30
    Can't really blame her — she didn't even want to be leader in the first place.
    38AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:13
    I remember Tako being super attached to her.
    46AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:22
    Re: #38
    Your memory's fading way too fast, lol.
    42AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:19
    The bond between 'Mama Uemura' and baby Endo
    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1766016490204286976/pu/vid/avc1/1280×720/orYS97ghwTrDvXPD.mp4
    73AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:53
    Re: #42
    No wonder Uemura Hazumi looks like her daughter.
    43AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:20
    45AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:22
    Every current member is basically a 'Uemura child,' devout followers of the Church of Uemura — though she never actually tries to recruit anyone, lol.
    52AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:29
    Re: #45
    By 'recruit,' you mean she chimes in on other groups like 'well, Uemura would've done it this way'?
    51AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:27
    Apparently Aarie had already decided to graduate by the time she became leader, and she'd told everyone, including the OGs, from the start.
    53AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:29
    Re: #51
    Makes you wonder if she wanted to quit even sooner if it weren't for the Takagi thing. Still, props to her for seeing it through as leader even though she hated every second of it.
    58AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:33
    Karin: 'Aarie's a gal who's kind even to introverts'
    61AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:36
    Re: #58
    Coming from an introvert herself, that carries some weight.
    72AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:53
    Kanazawa never blames people for messing up, and Uemura's carried that on. There's zero of that 'pile-on' culture you saw in Morning Musume or Berryz Koubou during the original-member era.
    79AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:02
    Re: #72
    Though on the flip side, nobody calls out Manakan even when she keeps blanking on the unison lyrics.
    90AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:09
    Antis just can't help running their mouths even when they don't know a thing, lol.
    93AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:11
    Re: #90
    You're the ones bashing the original members here.

    Background and Key Points

    Uemura Aarie became Morning Musume’s leader in 2022 during a period widely regarded within the fandom as the group’s lowest-tension era after the intensity associated with earlier lineups (the “original-member era” referenced in the thread points back to groups like the Tsunku-produced 2000s incarnations and Berryz Koubou, known for strict hierarchy and public dressing-downs of underperforming members). Her tenure also coincided almost entirely with the COVID-19 pandemic, which sharply curtailed concerts, handshake events, and other activities that would normally stress-test a leader — a constraint the thread only gestures at once (post 44) rather than fully accounting for. Hello! Project groups typically rotate the leader role among senior members rather than electing based on aptitude, which matters context-wise since several posts note Aarie reportedly didn’t want the position and had already privately planned her graduation before taking it on.

    The thread’s actual fault line isn’t whether the atmosphere was good — nearly everyone agrees it was — but whether that good atmosphere reflects positively on Aarie’s leadership or was simply a byproduct of reduced activity during COVID and her personal knack for making colleagues comfortable rather than any deliberate leadership skill. A secondary disagreement concerns whether the relaxed, improvisational style she fostered helped or hindered members’ technical growth.

    What outside readers likely miss is that “leader” in idol groups like this carries no formal authority over choreography, setlists, or discipline — it’s largely a liaison and morale role, decided by management and seniority rather than election or demonstrated leadership ability. That framing explains why posters credit her for “vibe” rather than concrete decisions, and why her reluctance to hold the position at all isn’t seen as disqualifying.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Still, the vibe was good during Uemura Aarie’s time as leader too”.

  • Can’t tell the difference between okonomiyaki sauce and takoyaki sauce — 5ch: “They’re both just brown”

    A debate broke out on the Nandemo Jikkyo G board over the difference between okonomiyaki sauce and takoyaki sauce. When the poster explained to a friend in Tokyo that “they’re totally different things,” the friend wouldn’t budge — “they’re both just sauce,” “they’re both brown” — and the thread spiraled into opinions on Gindaco (a major takoyaki chain) and the lineage of sauce makers like Ikari Sauce, Otafuku Sauce, and Bulldog Sauce.

    1AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:46
    Me: "Okonomiyaki sauce and takoyaki sauce are totally different things."
    Tokyoite: "Isn't it all just sauce?"
    Me: "…"
    3AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:46
    Gindaco sucks.
    Real Osaka takoyaki is where it's at.
    4AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:47
    Re: #3
    Why do Osaka people hate Gindaco so much?
    7AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:48
    Re: #3
    What's "real" even mean? The mushy ones that look like balls?
    10AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:49
    Re: #3
    You're seriously eating that soggy, gross takoyaki? Are you out of your mind? 🤣
    8AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:48
    Tokyoite: "Worcestershire sauce and chuunou sauce (Japan's medium-thick sauce) are the same too, right?"
    11AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:49
    Re: #8
    No way they're the same lol. These guys really do have dumb taste buds.
    12AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:49
    So what's actually different, specifically?
    Don't dodge with vague stuff like "richness" or "aroma" — talk ingredients.
    15AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:50
    Re: #12
    Tokyoite: "They're the same color though."
    14AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:50
    Not the "nation's kitchen" — more like the nation's dumb palate 🥹 (a jab at Osaka's old nickname, "the nation's kitchen")
    23AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:52
    Re: #14
    Says the guy who can't even tell sauces apart by taste.
    16AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:50
    Honestly, isn't chuunou sauce good enough for everything?
    45AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:03
    Re: #16
    That's basically the answer to every sauce dish.
    18AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:50
    Re: #3
    You seem like the type who'd like La Muu (a discount supermarket chain).
    25AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:53
    Re: #18
    At least La Muu beats choosing Gindaco.
    108AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:51
    Re: #25
    La Muu is dangerous, let's set that aside for now.
    31AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:56
    Kanto person: "Kansai-style okonomiyaki beats Hiroshima-style."

    Kansai person: "Can't argue with that."
    34AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:57
    Re: #31
    Kanto person: "Modan-yaki (okonomiyaki with fried noodles mixed in) is the best of all."
    37AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:58
    Re: #31 (as imagined by a Kansai person): "Kanto person: 'Modan-yaki is the best of all.'"

    This is reality.
    39AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:00
    Gindaco genuinely isn't that tasty though.
    Wish the Gindaco faithful would quit being jealous of Osaka.
    41AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:02
    Re: #39
    Just stirring up conflict to bump the thread. Pathetic.
    44AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:03
    Re: #39
    It's fried octopus, that's why.
    49AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:07
    Re: #39
    Gindaco actually sells more though, just saying.
    51AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:09
    When you think Osaka sauce maker, it's Ikari Sauce.

    When you think Tokyo sauce maker, it's Bulldog Sauce.

    By the way, Osaka's Ikari Sauce is actually a subsidiary of Tokyo's Bulldog Sauce.
    52AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:11
    Re: #51
    It's Otafuku Sauce, actually.
    59AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:16
    Feels like takoyaki sauce is the sweeter one.
    Wild that mixing it with ketchup basically makes demi-glace.
    124AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:18
    Re: #59
    Takoyaki sauce is spicier though.
    62AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:17
    Me: "Okonomiyaki sauce and takoyaki sauce are totally different things."

    Tokyoite: "Wait, aren't they the same sauce?"

    Me: "Not even close. Okonomiyaki sauce is sweet and thick, takoyaki sauce is thinner with more of a dashi flavor."

    Tokyoite: "But they're both brown."

    Me: "That's not the point."

    Tokyoite: "Yakisoba sauce is the same too, right?"

    Me: "……"

    The world of konamon (Osaka's flour-based food culture) runs deeper than I thought.
    64AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:19
    Re: #62
    Drop the puppet-show dialogue and just show us the real sauce.
    66AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:20
    Bulldog Sauce is for tonkatsu and stuff.
    Otafuku Sauce is for okonomiyaki and takoyaki.
    What even is Ikari Sauce, never heard of it.
    73AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:26
    Me, an Osakan, spends a good hour explaining the sauce difference to a Tokyoite.
    76AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:27
    Re: #73
    Ugh, not funny.
    78AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:28
    Re: #73
    They're all just vegetable-simmered sauces anyway, right?
    85AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:32
    Tokyoite: "I'm confident I wouldn't even notice if you served me okonomiyaki with takoyaki sauce on it."
    90AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:34
    Re: #85
    You probably wouldn't notice if it was soy sauce either.
    89AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:34
    Tokyoite: "Okay then, close your eyes and guess the sauce."

    Osakan: "……Takoyaki sauce."

    Tokyoite: "How do you even know?"

    Osakan: "Because I eat it every day."

    Tokyoite: "To me it all just looks like sauce."

    Osakan: "It's not about how it looks, it's about the taste."
    91AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:35
    Re: #89
    Like a Kansai person would even understand "taste" lol.
    103AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:45



    123AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:13
    Re: #103
    What manga is this from?

    Background and Key Points

    Sauce culture in Japan is more codified than it looks to outsiders. Under Japan’s agricultural standards (JAS), Worcestershire-style sauces are actually classified into a spectrum by viscosity alone — usutā (thin), chūnō (“medium-thick,” the everyday table sauce), and nōkō (thick, used for tonkatsu, okonomiyaki, and takoyaki) — all built from the same base of vegetables, fruit purée, vinegar, and spices, just concentrated to different degrees. Okonomiyaki and takoyaki both grew out of Osaka’s konamon (flour-based food) culture, and the sauces marketed for each are formulated slightly differently even within the nōkō category: okonomiyaki sauce leans sweeter and thicker to cling to a flat, griddled surface, while takoyaki sauce is cut thinner and more dashi-forward so it coats round balls without pooling. Regional makers like Otafuku (Hiroshima/Osaka-linked) built their whole product lines around this distinction.

    The thread’s actual fault line isn’t really about chemistry — it’s about whether visual/categorical sameness (“it’s all brown,” “it’s all sauce”) overrides lived taste memory, with the Osaka poster unable to articulate the difference in terms a non-eater would accept beyond “I just know.”

    What outsiders likely misread is the sauce-lineage trivia in the thread itself (Ikari being a Bulldog subsidiary, or actually Otafuku) — the posters contradict each other and neither claim is confirmed there, so it should be read as thread lore, not verified corporate history. Also overlooked entirely: Gindaco, mocked here as inauthentic, is Japan’s largest takoyaki chain by revenue, meaning the “authentic Osaka” preference expressed in the thread is a minority taste nationally.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Mystery] Tokyoites can’t tell takoyaki sauce from okonomiyaki sauce.”

  • Big-Eater Character ‘Hungry Tiger’ Declares on 5ch: ‘I’ll Devour Everything!’

    On 5ch’s Newsspeed VIP board, a character known by the emoticon (´・ω・`) — nicknamed “Hungry Tiger” — kicked off a thread. Despite boasting “I’ll devour everything!”, other posters pointed out he’s actually “the biggest light-eater in VIP” — and someone noticed that if you shorten the nickname, it becomes “Hentai” (pervert).

    From there, the thread veered off freely into pork dishes, Heinz’s hashed-beef sauce, and horse-racing predictions.

    1AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:24
    (´・ω・`)That's me you're talking about.
    2AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:25
    (´・ω・`)You're always playing 'starving roulette,' aren't you.
    3AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:26
    Re: #2
    (´・ω・`)I'll devour everything!
    つ🐘と
    4AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:26
    ( ・᷇ὢ・᷆ )Word is you're actually the biggest light-eater in VIP?
    5AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:26
    Re: #4
    (´・ω・`)Lying isn't nice, you know.
    6AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:26
    (´・ω・`)I grilled some pork and ate it.
    8AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:27
    Re: #6
    (´・ω・`)Oh, nice! Ginger pork? Stir-fried pork and veggies? Tonteki (pork steak)?
    10AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:27
    ( ・᷇ὢ・᷆ )You eat so little you're starting to look like Lupin (the lanky thief from Lupin III).
    15AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:29
    Re: #10
    (´・ω・`)I'd say I'm more like Goemon (the swordsman from Lupin III).
    43AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:37
    Shorten it and you get 'Han-tai.'
    44AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:38
    Re: #43
    (´・ω・`)It's already a nickname, don't shorten it any further!
    49AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:38
    Re: #43
    Wait, 'Hentai'? (pervert)
    66AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:44
    Re: #64
    (´・ω・`)Simmer it in ready-made hashed-beef sauce.
    70AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:45
    Re: #66
    Heinz brand works fine.
    79AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:47
    Re: #70
    (´・ω・`)(Wait, I thought Heinz only made ketchup…)
    85AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:48
    Re: #79
    So good, so good!
    89AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:50
    Re: #85
    (´・ω・`)Whoa, it's true!
    68AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:45
    I wish you'd do the dinner roulette once in a while (´・ω・)
    75AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:46
    Re: #68
    (´・ω・`)Right after a bath there just aren't many options.
    78AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:47
    Re: #75
    It's okay to eat gyudon (beef bowl) once in a while, you know.
    83AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:48
    Re: #75
    *sigh*~~~ (´・ω・)
    80AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:47
    Λ_Λ
    ૮₍ ・᷇ ∀ ・᷆ ₎ა
    つ🎫と


     Λ_:;.:…
    ૮₍ ・᷇ ∀:;.:…
    つ🎫:;.:…

     Λ:;….::;.:. :::;.. …..
    ૮₍:;….::;.:. :::;.. …..
    つ:;….::;.:. :::;.. …..
    87AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:49
    Re: #80
    (´・ω・`)And poof, he's gone.
    95AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:52
    (´・ω・`)Looks like Takasugi only has one mount this week.
    100AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:54
    Re: #95
     Λ_Λ
    ૮₍ ・᷇ ∀ ・᷆ ₎ა I don't think he's bad, but the moment he went freelance his rides dropped off a cliff…
    106AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:57
    Re: #95
    Guess he's stuck with some rookie trainer's stable.
    125AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:04
    Re: #111
    _φ(´・∀・`)Noted: more mushrooms and onions.
    128AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:05
    Re: #125
    (´・ω・`)I'm gonna buy Heinz's simmered hamburger-steak sauce.
    154AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:16
    Re: #128
    (´・∀・`)Is this the one?

    156AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:17
    Re: #154
    That one's so good!!!
    157AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:17
    Re: #154
    (´・ω・`)That's the one! (never actually used it though)
    131AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:06
    Re: #126
    (´・ω・`)Saying a line straight out of Brocken Jr. (Kinnikuman).
    136AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:08
    Re: #131
    Take this! My all-or-nothing Bremen Sunset!
    142AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:09
    Re: #136
    (´・ω・`)Was that even a real move?
    148AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:13
    Re: #142
    Their faces are so close I'm a little worried they might kiss
    151AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:15
    Re: #148
    (´・ω・`)He uses it on Prisman too! (Kinnikuman)
    134AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:06
    Λ_Λ
    ૮₍ ・᷇ ∀ ・᷆ ₎ა For the JRA race, I'm going all-in on the Keeneland Cup alone!
    つ🎫と Pa-pa-pa Panja! Tower!
    138AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:08
    Re: #134
    (´・ω・`)I was gonna go with Road Fore Ace, but he drew the far outside gate… also curious about that Indian jockey, Naredu.
    139AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:09
    Re: #134
    Let's bet on the All-Star Jockeys race too — it could turn into total chaos, who knows.
    153AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:16
    Λ_Λ
    ૮₍ ・᷇ ∀ ・᷆ ₎ა I've never seen Indian horse racing, but he'll probably be thrown off by Japanese racing at first…

    Re: #139
     Λ_Λ
    ૮₍ ・᷇ ∀ ・᷆ ₎ა I picked up more work hours, but it won't show up until my next paycheck…
    Gotta be patient for a while 😣
    155AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:16
    Re: #153
    (´・ω・`)I'm hoping for something like Haguworl from Taiyou no Makibao (a horse-racing manga).
    167AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:23
    Re: #153
    When you're broke, that's basically gambling, right?
    164AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:22
    Re: #156,157
    (´・∀・`)Got it!
    Shimeji mushrooms were cheap, so I gave up on regular mushrooms.
    168AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:23
    Re: #164
    (´・ω・`)o Hamburger steak! Hamburger steak!
    o彡
    174AnonymousAug 21, 2026 21:26
    Re: #164
    That shimeji, always selling itself short.

    Background and Key Points

    This 5ch board is Newsspeed VIP (better known simply as VIP), the platform’s oldest and most freewheeling anonymous board — descended from 2channel, the pseudonymous forum culture that birthed Japan’s kaomoji (text-face) tradition long before emoji existed. (´・ω・`), a simple droopy-mouthed face, has been floating around Japanese net culture for two decades as shorthand for a slightly pathetic, deadpan character; posters here have adopted and nicknamed it “Hungry Tiger” as a running bit, giving it a personality that the thread then contradicts for laughs.

    The thread’s actual split is narrow but real: is the character a big eater or not? The opening boast (“I’ll devour everything!”) is immediately punctured by other posters insisting he’s “the biggest light-eater in VIP,” and the food talk that follows — pork dishes, hashed-beef sauce, a hamburger-steak sauce he admits he’s never actually used — keeps undercutting the “hungry” branding rather than confirming it. That’s the entire disagreement; everything after (horse racing, Kinnikuman references, a shimeji-mushroom pun) is unrelated drift, not a continuation of any debate.

    What’s easy to misread as significance is really just VIP’s house style: threads built around a kaomoji “character” are a long-running genre where the appeal is the gap between the persona’s name and its actual behavior, plus in-joke wordplay (like “Hungry Tiger” collapsing into “Hentai”). There’s no news event, product, or real person behind this — it’s improvised collective roleplay with a mascot, and the horse-racing and manga tangents are just VIP’s normal channel-surfing, not evidence of a coherent theme.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Newsspeed VIP) thread “(´・ω・`) They Call Me ‘Hungry Tiger’.”

  • Team Otokojuku vs. Team Fist of the North Star: Who’d Win? 5ch Debates It Out

    A classic strength-comparison debate lit up 5ch: if the forces of “Sakigake!! Otokojuku” and “Fist of the North Star” clashed, who would come out on top? Posters cited Headmaster Eda Heihachi’s legendary immortality and the monstrous showdown potential between Daigouin Jaki and Devil Rebirth, while others countered that “both series are basically gag manga anyway” — sparking a full-blown debate over genre classification.

    1AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:05
    The rule: one-on-one duels
    5AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:08
    There's no way a serious series can beat a gag manga!
    8AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:09
    Re: #5
    Both of them are gag manga, this comes up every time
    7AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:08
    In Fist of the North Star, when you lose you actually die, but Otokojuku characters basically come back to life no matter how many times they die.

    So Team Otokojuku wins in the end.
    They've got Heihachi, after all.
    10AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:10
    Re: #7
    It's a fistfight between the two — how do they win if they're the ones who keep dying?
    11AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:11
    I get you want to hype up "Homo-juku" (a jokey nickname for Otokojuku, poking fun at its over-the-top homoerotic bromance vibes), but whoever wins this fight doesn't make it the better manga.
    46AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:48
    Re: #11
    Whichever one's funnier wins, right? 😁
    96AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:38
    Re: #11
    Then don't get so worked up about it lol
    16AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:16
    I want to see Daigouin Jaki fight Devil Rebirth
    92AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:35
    Re: #16


    He's already bigger than Devil Rebirth
    115AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:51
    Re: #92
    18AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:17
    I mean, the whole "he's dead! no he's alive!" thing usually only works for falls off cliffs and stuff.
    If your body gets blown to pieces, "actually I survived" isn't gonna fly.
    23AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:18
    Re: #18
    They've had severed arms just reattach before, so it'll be fine
    19AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:17
    Team Otokojuku's got yakuza on their side too
    25AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:21
    Re: #19
    Are the yakuza stronger than the mohawk guys who survived the post-apocalypse?
    27AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:21
    Re: #25
    Well, they did put Momo through some serious injuries
    29AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:24
    The author of Fist of the North Star has said himself it's full of retcons, so…
    guess Otokojuku takes it?
    30AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:27
    Re: #29
    Otokojuku's way beyond retcons — they forget a character even died and just bring them back with zero explanation
    39AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:42
    Baron Dino alone could beat the entire Fist of the North Star cast
    64AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:20
    Re: #39
    Dino would lose to Ken-oh's royal guard in drag
    54AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:09
    Mach Punch, easy win 👊
    59AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:16
    Re: #54
    He'd be even with Ein
    71AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:21
    Re: #54
    Let me show you… my new blow
    73AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:22
    Otokojuku characters have this rule where they have to take at least one hit from the enemy's ultimate technique first,
    so they're a bad matchup against Hokuto Shinken.
    80AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:25
    Re: #73
    No — taking the hit and then no-selling it through sheer guts is the whole Otokojuku package
    75AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:23
    Both are gag manga, so it's a draw
    78AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:24
    Re: #75
    Fist of the North Star still fights within battle-manga logic, so it's not a gag manga.
    It's like Prince of Tennis — it can do comedy, but that doesn't make it a gag series.
    There's no way Kenshiro could keep up with the sheer absurdity of Ryotsu (from Kochikame) or Jaguar.
    76AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:23
    Otokojuku is a gag manga, so its opponents include anything-goes characters like Ryotsu or Jaguar — it's just playing a different game entirely.
    The power-tier rankings for this kind of debate are already settled:

    At the top of the pyramid is the Gag tier, then Omnipotent tier, then Concept tier, then Power tier, then Superhuman tier at the bottom.

    Fist of the North Star sits at the very bottom of that pyramid in the Superhuman tier, so there's no way it beats the Gag tier at the top.
    89AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:31
    Re: #86
    Lol, treating how gag manga handle death and how a real story handles death as the same thing
    104AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:43
    Re: #89
    Lol, moving the goalposts
    98AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:39
    Honestly doubt anyone on the Fist of the North Star side can even recite their multiplication tables
    102AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:43
    Re: #98
    Don't underestimate Lord Judas
    109AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:47
    Re: #108
    Lol, you're not getting it —
    every example I gave except Crayon Shin-chan is either the protagonist or a key character on the protagonist's side
    110AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:49
    Re: #109
    And what does that have to do with them being gag characters?
    You're the one not getting it — those are deliberately written for special one-off developments, totally different from their usual vibe, right?
    Like movie-version Gian (from Doraemon).
    In other words, they don't interfere with the normal laws of gag-manga logic, so obviously it counts.

    Background and Key Points

    Team Otokojuku belongs to the lineage of over-the-top delinquent/gakuran manga that ran in Weekly Shonen Jump from 1988-1993, famous for a “die and come back with no explanation” storytelling style built around Headmaster Eda Heihachi and his students’ absurd, tearful spirit-power feats. Fist of the North Star, also a Jump-era classic (1983-1988), is a post-apocalyptic martial-arts saga built on Hokuto Shinken, a pressure-point assassination art where hits are final — the manga’s own author has publicly admitted to writing in retcons to bring characters back, which is the detail posters use to undercut its “serious battle manga” reputation. Both series are pillars of the “atsukurushii” (hot-blooded, sweaty, over-the-top) subgenre of Japanese boys’ manga that peaked in the late 80s, and both are frequently cited on Japanese boards as ancestors of today’s meme culture precisely because of how earnestly they escalate absurd stakes.

    The thread’s real fault line isn’t who’s stronger, it’s genre classification: is Otokojuku’s “nobody really dies” logic a legitimate combat rule, or does it only work within gag-manga physics that shouldn’t be allowed to interact with Fist of the North Star’s harder, if imperfect, internal death-rules? Once someone brought up a tier list placing “Gag” above “Superhuman,” the debate stopped being about punches and became an argument over whether narrative genre itself is a valid trump card in a crossover fight.

    What outsiders will likely miss is that this format is a recurring 5ch ritual independent of the two series involved — the “which universe’s logic wins” argument shows up any time two wildly different power systems are pitted against each other, and the specific characters (Jaki, Devil Rebirth, Baron Dino) are almost incidental to the actual disagreement about rules of engagement.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyou G) thread “If Team Otokojuku Fought Team Fist of the North Star, Who Would Win?”.