Author: Japan Reacts Editorial

  • METI Requests ¥7.7 Trillion for FY2027 Budget, Prioritizing AI and Semiconductors

    The Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry (METI) will request ¥7.7 trillion across its general and special accounts in its budget request for fiscal year 2027, targeting growth areas like AI, semiconductors, and robotics. The figure is roughly 2.5 times last year’s initial budget, and on 5ch, criticism that the money will just be “skimmed off by middlemen” and that the move is “15 years too late” mixed with comments pointing out the gap in investment scale compared to other countries.

    METI’s draft budget request for fiscal year 2027 has come to light. It will seek a combined ¥7.7 trillion between its general and special accounts, advancing priority policies in growth fields such as AI, semiconductors, and robotics, as well as strengthening the supply capacity of naphtha (crude gasoline).

    The requested amount is about 2.5 times the size of the FY2026 initial budget (¥3.0693 trillion), and exceeds the combined total of that budget plus the FY2025 supplementary budget (¥2.2009 trillion) by roughly ¥2.5 trillion. In addition, the ministry is also making “item requests” that don’t specify a concrete figure. To concentrate investment in growth fields, the special “Strong and Prosperous Japan Investment Framework,” which places no ceiling on requests from individual ministries, accounts for about ¥4.5 trillion — more than half of the total.

    Within the investment framework, about ¥1.4 trillion is being requested for AI, semiconductor, and robotics-related projects. This will fund the development of infrastructure for “physical AI” — AI that controls robots — as well as programs to support the adoption of AI-powered robots.

    Source: yomiuri.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:41
    Put the money toward blue-collar workers — they're the ones we'll actually need.
    9AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:43
    Re: #2
    Blue-collar jobs are getting the mass layoff rush.
    5AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:42
    Just invest in unmanned systems already.
    Both military and civilian sectors are going to need autonomous/unmanned tech going forward.
    7AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:43
    METI, quit pretending to work already (lol). They'll just hand out loans to their buddy companies again, produce zero results, and waste taxpayer money — like always, right?
    8AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:43
    AI's a lost cause for Japan at this point.
    The US and China are just too strong.
    10AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:44
    90% of it gets skimmed off by middlemen and it all ends with nothing to show for it.
    That's Japan for you.
    11AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:45
    I want to ask someone who really knows this stuff — if you compare it to the original Mobile Suit Gundam, what point in the story are we at???
    12AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:45
    Re: #1
    So it got exposed as just middlemen sucking up subsidies, and they simply renamed it?


    The shock of "zero subsidies for anime/game creators" — is this the distortion at the heart of the Cool Japan strategy? #ExpertTopic
    Article by: Tane Kiyoshi
    Anime writer / game writer
    Mon, March 23, 2026, 7:01 AM
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/expert/articles/c821d18b24f06849346c13ed3da7fdaec49a69e5

    Of the Cool Japan money, creators got ¥0.
    14AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:45
    So they could drop Cool Japan without a fight because now it's a free-for-all for skimming.
    16AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:46
    These guys are probably hoarding up memory chips too, right?
    17AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:47
    "Invest in semiconductors! Invest in AI!" — what are they, kids?
    Which semiconductors are you even investing in?
    Focus on agricultural robots instead — that's a field desperate for labor.
    And don't you dare touch military stuff — Japan's nowhere near that level right now.
    18AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:47
    It's 15 years too late, but better late than never, I guess.
    The US, South Korea, and China are where they are now because they poured absurd amounts of money in.
    Japan and Europe left it to the private sector and said "you handle it," which is why they're weak in this field.
    73AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:23
    Re: #18
    The AI drones Rakuten imports are made in Germany.
    Germany even has a software company with a market cap bigger than Toyota's — it's only Japan that doesn't.
    Granted, Germany won't step in even if its banks are in trouble.
    China, meanwhile, has announced a new five-year plan to gut humanities departments and go all-in on STEM.
    Japan can't pull off that kind of brute-force move, so the gap just keeps widening.
    168AnonymousAug 21, 2026 12:17
    Re: #18
    The US government only started investing in AI recently too.
    They're just jumping on the winning horse of an industry the private sector already made successful — it's not like government support is what made it succeed.
    19AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:47
    Re: #9
    The layoff rush is a white-collar thing — wages on the front lines/shop floor are about to go up.
    21AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:49
    Looks like it's heading for a repeat of the Cool Japan fiasco. METI's policies are all just theater — making it look like they're doing something.
    Everyone piles on the Finance Ministry, but METI is really the ministry that symbolizes everything wrong with Japan right now.
    25AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:51
    They talk about investing in AI, but AI doesn't create jobs.
    All it does is cut jobs and kill off industries.
    88AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:40
    Re: #25
    We're short on labor right now, so it's necessary, isn't it?
    26AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:52
    This looks like a field where Japan's just playing catch-up. Rather than trying to keep pace, it seems like the only way to win is to let the leaders run ahead and then overtake them with a different strategy.
    46AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:07
    I'd like them to cut social security spending at the same time.
    48AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:08
    They've failed at this over and over — just stop letting bureaucrats invest and cut taxes instead.
    75AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:26
    83AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:36
    If it's between this and tax cuts, spending it this way is better.
    98AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:46
    Re: #83
    If you're going to cut taxes, then government investment should be scaled back, right?
    89AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:41
    The surprise at this dinner was that Apple's Tim Cook — Japan's longtime partner — was nowhere to be seen, and instead Google's CEO was there. What's more, he was seated right next to PM Takaichi. It's safe to assume some major deal is in the works between Japan and Google.
    96AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:46
    Re: #89
    Apple treats Japan as a major market, and a lot of its parts and materials suppliers are Japanese companies, so the least they could do is build a manufacturing plant in Japan.
    Just raking in profits here while investing it all in the US and other countries is way out of line.
    115AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:07
    IBM Albany's ecosystem
    https://news.mynavi.jp/techplus/article/20240131-2873604/images/001.jpg

    imec Leuven's ecosystem
    122AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:14
    Intel Oregon's ecosystem
    https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/66d7411326ba25266a3bb86a/2e58ef57-12d2-4cff-9926-a54b8c951ecc/Screenshot+2024-10-29+at+3.31.14%E2%80%AFPM.png
    124AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:15
    Basically the goal is to build Japan's own TSMC, but it'll start with trial mass production runs next year just to see if it can even operate properly.
    Then it'll take several more years of accumulating yield-rate know-how and such to win customers' trust.
    Even once they catch up to the cutting edge, they'll have to keep competing, so they really do need to pour in money like water.
    126AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:16
    Re: #124
    Does Japan even have that kind of financial stamina left?
    147AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:51
    SoftBank alone has invested something like ¥10 trillion in OpenAI cumulatively.
    149AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:58
    Re: #147
    It's ¥100 trillion.
    150AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:59
    US Under Secretary of Defense Colby: "Asia doesn't need a hegemon" — speech in Manila, Philippines, seen as a check on China

    During the Q&A after his speech, Colby cited Germany's major increase in defense spending as an example when discussing other countries' defense budgets, and argued that Japan "should follow suit" to reach the 3.5% of GDP defense spending level the US is asking of its allies. (Kyodo)

    https://www.sankei.com/article/20260810-MIDVJTCEZNIANFGS7WP47PU6KU/

    Background and Key Points

    METI (the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry) is the postwar successor to MITI, Japan’s traditional industrial-policy ministry, and every summer each ministry submits a “gaisan yōkyū” (budget request) to the Finance Ministry ahead of the fiscal year starting the following April — a wish list, not an enacted budget. That distinction matters here: the ¥7.7 trillion figure, and the ¥1.4 trillion earmarked for AI, semiconductors, and robotics, will still be cut down during the Finance Ministry’s year-end screening, and some line items are “item requests” with no figure attached yet, a common technique for leaving room to negotiate later. The comparison baseline cited — Japan’s actual FY2026 initial budget of about ¥3.07 trillion — is itself much smaller than the request, underscoring how aspirational these numbers are before December’s compromise.

    The thread’s real fault line wasn’t over whether AI/semiconductors deserve money, but over mechanism versus scale: one camp assumes any new fund just repeats the Cool Japan pattern — money routed through intermediaries with little reaching actual creators or workers — while another camp argues Japan’s underlying problem is that it never matched the raw scale of US, Korean, and Chinese state investment, so even a flawed program beats continued underinvestment.

    What’s easy to miss is that this ¥7.7 trillion request is a starting bid in an annual bureaucratic ritual, not a signal that disbursement, oversight, or anti-skimming safeguards have been redesigned since Cool Japan’s well-documented governance failures — the posters debate trust in the money’s use without addressing whether METI’s distribution mechanism has actually changed at all.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “[Budget Request] METI to invest ¥7.7 trillion in growth fields like AI and semiconductors.”

  • Is “Watch and Learn” Good Job Training? 5ch: “They’re Just Bad at Explaining Things”

    A thread on 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyo” board started from frustration with the “watch and learn” style of job training. It began as griping about workplaces that never read manuals, and at times turned into a debate over whether “watch and learn” even counts as proper on-the-job training. One post that drew a lot of responses recalled being told to just “watch” while filleting fish at a seafood izakaya job, and argued it would have been much easier to understand if they’d been talked through the knife technique step by step.

    1AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:47
    They're probably just bad at putting things into words.
    2AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:48
    Even when there's a manual, nobody reads it anyway.
    30AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:04
    Re: #2
    If you have time to read the manual, use it to learn the job instead.
    3AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:49
    Isn't IT, full of people who struggle socially, actually pretty bad at putting things into words?
    7AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:52
    Re: #3
    Downstream workers have a lot of poor communicators who are bad at verbalizing things.
    Once you get up to the design level, there are fewer poor communicators.
    10AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:53
    Jobs that can actually be put into words are just simple tasks,
    like assembly line work.
    So the moment someone demands everything be verbalized, it's clear they're in some cheap job anyone could do.
    12AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:57
    They get mad when you ask questions.
    Ask something like "so this, this, and this share the same part, right?" and you just get "how should I know, idiot?"
    14AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:58
    Even in construction work (dokata, a blunt/slangy term for manual laborers), the bigger companies seem to have solid on-the-job training.
    Outside of construction too, crappy small companies just don't have a proper training environment to begin with — no time or staff to teach anyone.
    21AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:00
    Re: #14
    Isn't it precisely because the OJT is solid that it becomes "watch and learn"?
    15AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:58
    Guys like that get all competitive even when someone like me
    picks things up fast,
    which is incredibly annoying.
    20AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:59
    Re: #15
    They fight back with some mysterious "spirit and willpower" argument, right?
    Like stories about how hard things were back in their day.
    110AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:54
    Back when I was working part-time at a seafood izakaya, they told me to just "watch" when filleting fish, but honestly it would've been way easier to understand if they'd explained it in words — like where to start the knife cut, how to follow along the bone.

    "Watch and learn" works fine for someone who can already mentally replay and reproduce what they see, but if it's your first time, you don't even know what you're supposed to be looking at.
    113AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:56
    Re: #110
    If you can't learn a skill like that just by watching, you're probably not cut out for it.
    114AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:57
    Re: #110
    And normal people can understand it just by watching — plus, how to handle something irregular can't really be put into words anyway.
    In the end, the ones whining about wanting everything verbalized are just low-level guys who can't think for themselves.

    Background and Key Points

    Reddit-style “watch and learn” complaints translate awkwardly outside Japan, so the background matters here. The term at issue is “見て覚えろ” (mite oboero) — a mentorship style rooted in Japan’s traditional apprenticeship trades (sushi chefs, carpenters, artisans), where verbal instruction was historically minimal and skills were absorbed through years of observation before a trainee was even allowed to touch the tools. That model migrated into blue-collar and small-business work culture more broadly, including construction (“dokata,” a term posters use casually but which carries a rough, working-class connotation) and food service. It persists partly because Japanese workplaces, especially smaller ones, often lack dedicated training budgets or staff time, and partly because a “toughness” ethos still lingers from a generation that was trained the same way.

    The thread doesn’t split on whether OJT is good or bad in the abstract — everyone agrees good training matters. It splits on whether “watch and learn” is a legitimate teaching method or a euphemism for bad communicators refusing to explain things. One camp (post 113/114) argues that some skills, especially ones involving judgment calls on irregular situations, genuinely can’t be verbalized, and that struggling to learn by watching signals a lack of aptitude. The other camp (post 110/12) says vague instruction is just a failure to break a task into learnable steps, dressed up as tradition.

    What’s likely to get lost on non-Japanese readers: this isn’t a fringe complaint about one bad boss, it’s a recognized generational and structural tension in Japanese labor culture, sometimes discussed alongside “unspoken rules” workplace criticism. The thread never mentions that many companies have formal “OJT” (on-the-job training) programs as a HR buzzword precisely because the informal version was seen as inadequate — the corporate fix for the very problem posters are describing.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo board) thread “Construction worker: “Watch and learn the job”.”

  • Mystery Chants Take Over 5ch: ‘See No Bread, Speak No Bread, Hear No Bread’

    In a chat thread on 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyo G” (Live Commentary General) board, users traded a nonstop stream of nonsensical call-and-response chants like “see no bread, speak no bread, hear no bread,” along with a flood of Funassyi-style pear-mascot images.

    In between, the thread veered wildly off-topic — gripes demanding higher welfare payments, jokes reminiscent of the comedy duo Tetsu and Tomo, and other completely unrelated tangents.

    1AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:26
    Huh? (・o・🍬) VIPQ2_EXTDAT: none:none:1000:512:: EXT was configured
    11AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:29
    See-no-bread 👊😑👊
    Speak-no-bread 👊🤐👊
    Hear-no-bread 👊😷👊
    13AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:29
    Re: #11
    Ohh, OGAAAH!!
    15AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:32
    2 Anonymous (Still Running) 2026/08/21 (Fri) 15:17:13.06 ID:zndqzHUA
    What even is this place 👊😅👊

    3 Anonymous (Still Running) 2026/08/21 (Fri) 15:17:21.93 ID:zndqzHUA
    My bad, yanineko (probably a fumbled phone-typo) 👊😅👊
    16AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:33
    Re: #15
    It's the au Double-Bread guy!
    21AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:40
    What even is this thing?!
    22AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:40
    Re: #21
    Buzz buzz buzzzz! 🐧
    24AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:41
    Re: #22
    Hey-o, fish cake~ (a playful mashup of "konnichiwa" and "chikuwa")
    25AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:41
    Re: #22
    Konk-konk konk-konk-konk konk-konk-konk ✊
    29AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:42
    33AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:42
    Re: #29
    Look who reeled in a Funa-tan! (nod to Funassyi, the pear mascot)
    32AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:42
    Funa funa funa funa ♪
    35AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:44
    Re: #32
    The greatest 'good job' in history 👍
    34AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:43
    What's the difference between love and lust, anyway?
    36AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:44
    Re: #34
    Don't phrase it like a movie title lol
    37AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:45
    Re: #34
    Whether or not you're thinking about the other person's feelings
    66AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:52
    Re: #59
    Why do you think that is?
    72AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:53
    Re: #66
    It's a 'how many' leading into a 'why'!
    69AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:52
    Re: #66
    Nah, I was asking how many there were
    74AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:53
    Re: #69
    Three times
    Try thinking about why that is
    75AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:54
    Re: #74
    Tetsu and Tomo? (comedy duo famous for their 'why is that' bit)
    78AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:55
    Re: #74
    Don't say it like Taka & Toshi lol (another comedy duo)
    81AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:55
    Funasshoi!


    82AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:55
    I'm on welfare and the cost of living is brutal — wish they'd bump the payments up to 200,000 yen
    85AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:57
    Re: #82
    Didn't you get the extra payout?
    101AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:06
    Whose POV are you watching today's Hololive Among Us stream from?
    109AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:11
    Re: #101
    Ooe no Takayuki
    107AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:10
    Re: #100
    My mom left it out for me before heading off to her part-time job 🥹
    108AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:10
    Re: #107
    Lucky you♪ Lucky you♪
    112AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:13

    Background and Key Points

    5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyo G” board is a live-commentary space where users post in real time while watching TV, sports, or streams — closer in spirit to a Twitch chat than a discussion forum, which is why threads like this one exist purely to flood the page with in-jokes rather than debate anything. The chant “see no bread, speak no bread, hear no bread” is a pun on the classic three-wise-monkeys proverb (mizaru, kikazaru, iwazaru — “see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil”), swapping “evil” for “pan” (bread) purely for the rhythm. Funassyi, the pear mascot flooding the thread in image form, is an unofficial character created to promote Funabashi City in Chiba Prefecture; it became a nationwide phenomenon around 2013 for its manic, unscripted energy, which is exactly the tone this thread is imitating.

    There’s no real argument in this thread — it’s chat noise — but the one moment resembling disagreement is buried in the welfare tangent: one poster complains that living costs demand seikatsu hogo (welfare) payments of 200,000 yen, and another pushes back by asking whether they’d already received Japan’s periodic rinji kyufukin, the one-off cash relief payments the government issues during inflationary spikes. That’s a real policy distinction — ongoing welfare benefits versus temporary supplemental payouts — that the thread never resolves.

    What outside readers will likely miss is that none of this is a genuine political or cultural discussion; it’s the digital equivalent of chanting along at a stadium, and the off-topic detours (Hololive, comedy-duo callbacks to Tetsu and Tomo’s “why is that” bit) are the point, not a distraction from it.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “Funafunari♪ Funafunaru♪ (・o・🍬)🏡.”

  • Saitama Railroad Crossing Trap: Police ‘Can’t Confirm Tailgating’ — 5ch: ‘If He Trapped Him On Purpose, That’s Attempted Murder’

    At a railroad crossing in Saitama Prefecture, a man who works for JAF and was driving ahead has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after allegedly trapping the car behind him inside the crossing in an attempt to have it hit by a train. Saitama Prefectural Police say they “have not been able to confirm any tailgating,” but it has also come to light that dashcam footage shows the man pulling his own car away only after watching the crossing barrier come down all the way. On 5ch, opinions are split over whether the trapping was intentional, or whether the car behind had been tailgating him first.

    He allegedly trapped the car behind him inside the railroad crossing so it couldn’t get out, in an attempt to have it collide with a train and kill the male driver. On the 19th, Saitama Prefectural Police’s Iwatsuki Station arrested Kenichi Kato (52), an organization employee living in Magome, Hasuda City, in the same prefecture, on suspicion of attempted murder. According to investigative sources, Kato works for the Japan Automobile Federation (JAF), which provides roadside assistance and similar services. Kato denies any intent to kill, saying “I didn’t mean to kill him,” and claims “I was the one being tailgated.” Meanwhile, a relative said dejectedly, “I’m the one who’d like to know what happened.”

    The incident occurred at around 5:25 p.m. on the 18th. According to a Saitama Prefectural Police announcement, the scene was a railroad crossing on the Tobu Noda Line, between Shichiri and Iwatsuki stations.

    According to investigative sources, immediately after crossing the tracks, Kato stopped his car and left the vehicle driven by the male victim (56), who was following behind, unable to get out of the crossing. Kato then reportedly got out of his car, walked over to the victim’s vehicle, and warned him about things like “you’re following too close.” When the crossing’s warning alarm began to sound, he is said to have returned to his own car.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:43
    Why didn't the Sienta (the victim's Toyota Sienta) move?
    286AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:29
    Re: #4
    He could've just driven forward and broken through the barrier, but I bet he deliberately didn't — so he could make a big deal out of it.
    And sure enough, he got the other guy arrested for attempted murder this way.
    30AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:51
    Calling that 'not tailgating' is a stretch.
    43AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:55
    Re: #30
    >However, the victim's dashcam recorded Kato pulling his own car forward only after confirming the barrier had fully come down.
    >However, the victim's dashcam recorded Kato pulling his own car forward only after confirming the barrier had fully come down.


    Did you actually read the article?
    66AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:58
    Re: #43
    This is straight-up attempted murder — he's looking at something like a 10-year sentence.

    Apparently the JAF guy, the perpetrator, only pulled his car away after confirming the barrier had come down.
    122AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:06
    Re: #43
    That shows intent to kill, sure, but claiming the trapped car behind him wasn't tailgating him is a stretch.
    78AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:00
    Normally, you only enter a crossing after confirming the car ahead has cleared and there's enough space for you to get through too — so unless someone's tailgating you from behind, there's no way you'd end up stopped inside the crossing in the first place.
    91AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:01
    Re: #78
    Tailgating aside, there are plenty of idiots who barge into a crossing without properly checking ahead and end up stuck.
    101AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:03
    Re: #78
    If it's a crossing with no traffic light right after it, you'll find plenty of people doing that.
    114AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:05
    Re: #78
    Rule-wise that's true, but a lot of cars enter right as the car ahead is just about to clear the crossing.
    93AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:01
    The victim's dashcam recorded Kato pulling away only after confirming the barrier had fully come down.

    I don't get it.
    Did he force his way through while the barrier was down, and the car behind him followed?
    What's going on here?
    108AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:04
    Re: #93
    He was blocking him right in front of the barrier. Straight-up murderous intent 😅
    112AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:05
    Re: #93
    The perpetrator crosses the tracks.
    He gets out of his car and confronts the victim(?).
    After the barrier comes down, he checks it and then pulls his own car away.
    That's the story, right?
    So then why did the victim drive his car into the crossing in the first place?
    115AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:05
    Re: #93
    I guess he waited for the barrier to come down before pulling away, specifically to trap him inside.
    102AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:03
    The car in front couldn't move because it was stuck in traffic — the idea that he was deliberately blocking him is off to begin with.
    If anything, the driver who pulled in behind him while traffic was clearly backed up is the idiot.
    Same as at intersections — you get idiots who pull in even when it's obviously jammed ahead and then start honking.
    If you can't read a situation like that, you shouldn't be driving.
    125AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:06
    Re: #102
    There was no traffic jam ahead of the suspect's car. He blocked the way on purpose.
    132AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:08
    Re: #102
    It wasn't jammed. If it had been, the police wouldn't have gone as far as an arrest.
    He was arrested because he intentionally trapped the guy inside the crossing to kill him.
    Same as the Tomei Expressway tailgating case (a notorious 2017 incident) — stopping in a driving lane on the highway was ruled tantamount to murder.
    Don't you think it's messed up to say 'he tailgated so it's fine to kill him'?
    119AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:06
    Saitama police: 'We can investigate this as attempted murder if you want, but that means we'll also be filing charges against you for tailgating — you okay with that?'

    Is that basically what's happening here?
    133AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:08
    The tailgating uncles are shaking in their boots across this whole thread, but honestly, just don't tailgate and keep a proper following distance.
    It's not like it changes your arrival time by more than a minute or two anyway.
    159AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:12
    Re: #133
    It's fine when someone weaves through lanes in an annoying way to pass me while I'm just driving normally —
    but then I always catch up to them at the next red light, or the one after that,
    and there's definitely a certain number of drivers out there who make me think 'is this guy actually an idiot?'
    162AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:13
    Was that the day before yesterday?
    Doesn't have to be this guy specifically, but did anyone catch the footage on Nippon TV?
    Timing-wise it was probably the 'every.' evening news slot.


    'Trouble over following distance? Man, 52, stopped after crossing the tracks and walked away, possibly trapping the car behind him inside the crossing — arrested on suspicion of attempted murder'
    https://asahi.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/newsplus/1787129941/119
    119: Anonymous Donburako Wed, Aug 19, 2026 18:20:03.91 ID:m4PlKnU40
    Just saw it on the news — the car behind was totally tailgating.
    Way too close.

    133: Anonymous Donburako Wed, Aug 19, 2026 18:22:16.24 ID:v9DN2dfb0
    Re: #119
    Was that NTV?
    That following distance at that speed is way too close.

    147: Anonymous Donburako Wed, Aug 19, 2026 18:23:56.37 ID:m4PlKnU40
    Re: #133
    Yeah, NTV.
    That's not a normal following distance.
    127AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:06
    Huh. So what, he charged into the crossing with no intent to tailgate? Why would he do that?
    137AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:09
    Re: #127
    Some people just don't have the concept of stopping properly or keeping a safe following distance.
    143AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:10
    Re: #127
    If you cross that crossing regularly you'll have seen it — cars that don't even stop and just roll on in with the flow of traffic. That's the type we're talking about.
    140AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:09
    I mean, if he really had intent to kill, he wouldn't have moved his car at all — he'd have kept blocking it, and probably wouldn't even let the door open until the last second so the guy couldn't escape.
    147AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:10
    Re: #140
    Eh, he probably did it with something as casual as 'let's give him a scare.'
    152AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:11
    Re: #140
    The fact that he's a JAF employee probably factors in too. If it were some random person, it might just be harassment, but a JAF guy? There's no way he wouldn't know exactly what could happen if you leave someone stuck inside a crossing.
    144AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:10
    https://gzo.ai/i/JdzCjyJ.jpg
    196AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:19
    'There was no tailgating' —
    Even if that were true, you're still not supposed to enter a crossing unless the car ahead has fully cleared it AND there's enough space for your own car to get all the way through.
    208AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:21
    Re: #196
    Sure, that's not allowed either.
    But deliberately stopping to obstruct him is way worse.
    Do you understand the difference between intent and negligence?
    244AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:24
    Re: #196
    Glad you're learning that blocking someone in front so they can't move is even worse.
    213AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:21
    One thing I'm wondering — the tailgating claim is only coming from the victim, right? Couldn't it just be that the following distance was a bit close? Has any footage come out that definitively shows tailgating?
    218AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:22
    Re: #213
    Sorry, I meant 'perpetrator,' not 'victim.'
    226AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:23
    Re: #213
    Neighbors are saying it wasn't tailgating, and besides, tailgating and simply not keeping enough following distance are completely different things. A JAF employee should definitely know that.
    230AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:23
    Re: #213
    According to the police's current information, they haven't been able to confirm any tailgating.
    231AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:23
    If it turns out the JAF guy has no prior record, while the older guy involved in the crash has a string of past tailgating incidents coming out one after another,
    this trial could end up being pretty darn funny.
    236AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:24
    Re: #231 Even so, if he wasn't doing it at the scene this time, he probably can't be blamed for it.
    246AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:25
    Re: #231
    People who tailgate are basically habitual offenders who also speed — it usually comes as a package deal.

    Background and Key Points

    JAF (Japan Automobile Federation) is the country’s main roadside-assistance body, a quasi-public organization most Japanese drivers know as the AAA equivalent that tows cars and jump-starts batteries — which is why posters found it notable that the suspect works there: a road-safety professional is accused of using a level crossing as a weapon. Japan’s Road Traffic Act explicitly forbids entering a crossing unless the driver can confirm the far side is clear enough for their own car to get all the way through, precisely because being trapped between the barriers as a train approaches is a known cause of fatal accidents. “Tailgating” (aori unten) became its own aggravated offense after a highly publicized 2017 Tomei Expressway case, where a driver forced another car to stop in a live lane, leading to a fatal rear-end collision — a case posters invoke directly as the closest precedent for “aggressive driving treated as equivalent to murder.”

    The thread’s actual fault line isn’t whether trapping someone in a crossing is dangerous — everyone agrees it is — but whether the suspect was defending himself against a tailgater or manufacturing the entrapment, since police have not corroborated Kato’s tailgating claim while his own dashcam shows him waiting for the barrier to fully close before easing away.

    What the discussion glosses over is that both drivers may have technically violated the same crossing-entry rule regardless of tailgating, and that “no confirmed tailgating” from police is a statement about current evidence, not an exoneration — intent for the attempted-murder charge hinges on the deliberate delay, not on who caused the initial pile-up.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt/summary from the 5ch (Breaking News Plus) thread “[Saitama Crossing Trapping] Police: ‘Can’t Confirm Tailgating’ — Dashcam Shows Him Pulling Away Only After Barrier Fully Closed, Also Under Investigation for Endangering Train Traffic.”

  • “J.P Room” 2027 Desk Calendar Officially Announced

    Ishida Ayumi’s official X account has announced the release of a 2027 desk calendar under the “J.P Room” name.

    On the thread, reactions ranged from pointing out that the lineup skews heavily toward Morning Musume and Juice=Juice, to sorting out which members do and don’t have their own solo calendars, to comparisons of follower counts. The thread also picked up on the news, announced around the same time, that Sasaki Rikako’s solo calendar has been confirmed for release.

    Ishida Ayumi & Staff [Official]

    @ayumi_ishida__

    🍀🐣Announcement🐣🍀

    Source: video.twimg.com / Original post here

    3AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:44
    Even the OGs are just Morning Musume and Juice=Juice again, huh
    10AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:50
    Members who put out solo calendars:
    Fukumura, Ishida, Sato, Morito, Miyamoto, Uemura, Inaba, Sasaki

    Members who don't:
    Miyazaki, Takeuchi, Koseki, Asakura
    19AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:53
    Re: #10
    Kiki-chan will definitely put one out
    44AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:06
    Re: #42
    Most of them already do
    Re: #10
    13AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:52
    Don't overlap the announcement dates, come on

    https://x.com/hagoromo_cl/status/2090635470590083339
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQNrSrdaIAEMktD.jpg:orig#.jpg
    Hagoromo @ Calendar Division
    @hagoromo_cl

    /
    Sasaki Rikako 2027 Desk Calendar 💛
    Release confirmed 🎉
    \

    Produced under the theme "the natural, true-to-life Sasaki Rikako" ✨

    For the second year running,
    Sasaki's admired senpai "#Takahashi Ai"
    handled the styling for every single page! 👗

    This time early preview shots are being released too! ✨

    📢 And there's more!
    A release commemoration event has also been confirmed 🎉

    ①10/17 (Sat) | SHIBUYA TSUTAYA
    ②11/7 (Sat) | Kinokuniya Bookstore Grand Front Osaka
    ③11/4 (Wed) | Online autograph session

    Check the thread below for details 👇

    #SasakiRikako

    ▼
    https://x.com/hagoromo_cl/status/2090635472871817328?s=20
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQNrcvSbkAAHisZ.jpg
    14AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:52
    So that's the day the original Juice=Juice members mysteriously got together to shoot TikToks
    17AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:53
    Re: #14
    Same, I thought that too lol
    The day HANAKIN was filming with Rikako
    16AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:52
    Koseki's wota have been begging for one forever, so if she pushes hard here it might actually lead to a solo calendar
    Once they know it'll sell, they'll make it
    18AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:53
    5000 yen shipping included, just to cover one month of my oshi
    20AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:54
    Isn't this Yukanya's first one in a while?
    22AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:55
    Don't tell me they're gonna do a release event with the entire J.P Room lineup?
    23AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:55
    Guess 12 is just a convenient number, huh
    24AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:56
    The popularity gap is way too brutal for that, they won't do it
    25AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:56
    Can't wrap my head around it costing more than a solo calendar when each member only gets one page
    26AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:57
    The autograph sessions take you one at a time
    27AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:58
    The release date lands right on the same day as the J.P Room fan thanksgiving festival
    30AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:59
    Re: #27
    They'll swap out the photo-card designs and sell venue-exclusive versions
    28AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:58
    Nobody's buying it if the autographs are random
    29AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:59
    What happens when the lineup changes down the road?
    31AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:00
    Got it — Karin-chan's July, Chii-chan's August
    33AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:02
    Wish they'd bring back the group calendars for the other Hello Project groups too
    40AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:05
    With 12 members, they should've done a full-group edition too, not just solo ones
    43AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:06
    Re: #40 Turns out they had both
    42AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:06
    Just give us a solo calendar already
    45AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:07
    Can Oda actually get along with this crew?
    48AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:08
    Re: #45
    Her best friend Ishida's right there
    56AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:14
    Guess it doesn't sell anymore unless it's a joint edition
    62AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:16
    Re: #56
    Most of them are putting out solo calendars too
    101AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:03
    If they split the 12 into groups of 3 or 4 and set up talk-event slots by group instead, it'd be a lot harder to directly compare each member's turnout
    103AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:06
    Re: #101
    Seriously, cut that out
    119AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:37
    Sawami
    @ice_528
    I'm fine with just the solo one lol
    125AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:44
    Re: #119
    Didn't expect Sawami of all people to say that
    Now I like her lol

    Background and Key Points

    Ishida Ayumi’s “J.P Room” is Hello! Project’s brand for individually themed 2027 desk calendars covering a shared 12-member roster, most of them drawn from Morning Musume ’25 and Juice=Juice, the agency’s two flagship groups. Solo H!P calendars have long been a fan-economy staple — merch sold via each member’s own team or “calendar division” (like the Hagoromo account handling Sasaki Rikako’s release), often bundled with in-store or online autograph events, since fans treat calendar sales and event turnout as informal popularity rankings. Ishida herself, along with Fukumura, Sato, Morito, Miyamoto, Uemura, and Inaba, already has an established solo-calendar track record, which is part of why posters immediately started cross-checking who’s in and who’s still missing.

    The thread’s real fault line wasn’t the calendar itself but the optics around it: whether J.P Room, as a shared 12-person product, undercuts or gets undercut by members’ individual solo calendars announced in the same window — Sasaki Rikako’s solo release dropped almost simultaneously, and posters debated whether joint products like this only sell when paired with solo ones, whether cramming 12 members into one release invites unflattering popularity comparisons, and whether splitting event slots by subgroup could hide those gaps.

    What outside readers will likely miss is that “solo calendar” isn’t a formality — it’s a revenue and popularity signal within the idol economy, and members without one (like Miyazaki, Takeuchi, Koseki, Asakura per the thread) are read by fans as a gap worth noting, not neutral. The thread never explains why 12 members specifically were chosen for J.P Room, leaving the group’s actual selection criteria unaddressed.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello Project) thread “J.P Room Calendar 2027 Release Confirmed ✨.”

  • “I’ll Kill You Right Here”: Woman in Her 20s Seriously Injured in Wrong-Way Crash in Itako, Ibaraki — 38-Year-Old Man Rearrested on Attempted Murder Charges

    A 38-year-old man has been rearrested on suspicion of attempted murder over a wrong-way driving crash that occurred in July in Itako, Ibaraki Prefecture. He allegedly threatened the female victim with a metal bat after the collision, leaving her with serious injuries including fractures. On 5ch, after reports featuring what appears to be dashcam footage, users debated the man’s motive and the state of Japan’s driver’s license system.

    1AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:12
    A woman in her 20s was seriously injured in a head-on collision with a wrong-way vehicle in Itako, Ibaraki Prefecture, and a 38-year-old man has been rearrested on suspicion of attempted murder. After the crash, the man allegedly threatened the woman with a metal bat, leaving her with serious injuries including fractures. Police are investigating in detail how the man came to be driving the wrong way, how the collision happened, and what his motive was.
    ◆ Head-on collision with a wrong-way vehicle — but then…
    Footage capturing the entirety of the attempted-murder incident involving a woman in her 20s, which occurred in Itako, Ibaraki in July.
    5AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:13
    There are way more outlets online now for one-sided opinions to get validated than there used to be, so it just accelerates things even more.
    20AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:19
    To have someone harbor that much murderous intent toward you… what did this woman even do??
    65AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:39
    Re: #20
    Can't you read the source?
    They're total strangers.
    38AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:28
    Can she actually get any money out of this guy?
    43AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:29
    Re: #38
    His parents will probably cough up some money on their own, I'd guess.
    64AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:39
    Classic ice-age generation, lol (the "employment ice age" cohort that graduated into Japan's brutal job market of the '90s–2000s)
    78AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:50
    Re: #64
    If he's 38, that'd put his job hunting right around the years of the "nightmare" DPJ government, no? (a common conservative-leaning jab at the Democratic Party of Japan's 2009–2012 rule)
    77AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:50
    Guy's half insane, honestly.
    83AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:51
    Re: #77
    'Half'? Is it really only half?
    91AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:58
    Really simply put, I feel like the pattern here is:
    – He didn't realize he was the one driving the wrong way
    – He figured the other person caused the crash by going the wrong way, so he started acting tough first so he wouldn't be looked down on 🥺
    92AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:59
    Re: #91
    So from this guy's point of view it's like, 'What the hell, this bitch came at me driving the wrong way! I'll kill her!!'
    115AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:17
    Re: #112
    If he's 38 he was born in the Showa era. When I think 'yutori generation' (Japan's so-called 'relaxed education' cohort) I picture people born in the Heisei era… though technically the yutori curriculum might've already started by then.
    125AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:27
    Re: #115
    People around 35 now are the last of the yutori generation, so that checks out pretty well, I think.
    129AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:28
    Re: #125
    I'm turning 40 this year and I'm the first of the yutori generation, so yeah, that lines up.
    131AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:29
    Re: #125
    So is everyone after the yutori generation safe from being like this?
    132AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:29
    Feels like this is going to end with her just having to swallow it and move on…
    136AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:31
    Re: #132
    Wonder how the insurance is going to work out. This is just too awful for her.

    Background and Key Points

    I’ll kill you right here”: Woman in her 20s seriously injured — man rearrested on attempted murder.

    The framework here matters: under Japan’s Road Traffic Act, driving on the wrong side of a two-way road is a straightforward violation, but this case escalated to attempted murder (satsujin misui) because prosecutors allege intent to kill, evidenced by the man’s verbal threat and his use of a metal bat after the crash — Japan classifies assault with such a weapon and clear homicidal statements as far more serious than a traffic accident alone, which is why this went from a car-crash report to a rearrest on a violent-crime charge. Dashcam footage, now common in Japanese vehicles largely because of a string of “road rage” (aori unten) cases since around 2017 that led to a 2020 law specifically criminalizing dangerous obstructive driving, is what let the public and posters actually see the sequence rather than rely on the man’s account.

    Where the thread actually splits is over motive: several posters (post 91-92) floated the theory that the man never realized he himself was driving the wrong way, believed the woman had caused the crash, and lashed out to avoid looking weak — a reading that reframes his aggression as panicked face-saving rather than premeditated malice, versus other posters treating the threat and bat as evidence of straightforward violent intent. Separately, a chunk of the thread drifts into generational riffing (ice-age job-market cohort, yutori generation cutoffs) that never gets resolved and isn’t really about the case.

    What’s likely to be missed: nothing in the thread addresses whether the man had any prior driving or criminal record, or how Japan’s at-fault insurance system (posts 38, 43, 136) will actually apply given that attempted murder, if convicted, sits outside ordinary jiko (accident) insurance frameworks — meaning the victim’s compensation path may depend far more on the man’s personal assets than any auto policy.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “38-year-old man says “I’ll kill you right here” and rams his car, driving the wrong way, into a car driven by a woman in her 20s — is this seriously Japan?“

  • SF6 Usage Rate Stats Spark Surprise Over Zangief’s Popularity — 5ch: “He Just Has a Lot of Diehard Fans”

    A thread titled “Take a look at the current character usage rates in Street Fighter 6” popped up on 5ch’s Nandemo Jikkyo G (Anything Goes Live) board, and posters had a field day dissecting the numbers. The thread lit up with surprise that Zangief — long an unpopular pick throughout the series — is ranking near the top again this time, plus a fun bit of trivia: Terry, famous from KOF, actually originated as a Street Fighter 1 character.

    1AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:09
    Takashi…!
    2AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:11
    Did they finally buff Ryu (written with the kanji 隆)?
    3AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:12
    Re: #2
    He's been buffed little by little — not the best in the game, but he's high-spec now.
    98AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:53
    Re: #2
    He's actually in the running for best character right now.
    11AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:14
    Zangief is popular?? For real?!
    15AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:15
    Re: #11
    Say what you want, but he's always near the top of the usage charts.
    18AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:16
    Re: #15
    Did Zangief's popularity start with SF4? I feel like he used to be in the unpopular tier.
    23AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:18
    So how's Terry? If he's strong I might actually pick up SF6.
    35AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:22
    Re: #23
    He got nerfed a bit but he's still top-tier. Honestly there aren't any weak characters in this game to begin with.
    36AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:22
    Re: #23
    Terry's top tier right now.

    Ryu's usage rate stays near the top even when he's weak, though it depends on the rank bracket.
    27AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:18
    With this many characters, how come nobody from the Street Fighter EX series made the cut?
    33AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:20
    Re: #27
    Well, those characters belong to a different company.
    43AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:26
    Wait, isn't Terry a KOF character?
    53AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:30
    Re: #43
    He was originally a Street Fighter character who ended up moonlighting at "the gallery" (画廊, a pun on 餓狼/Garou, aka Fatal Fury).
    49AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:29
    Of course — there's never been a Street Fighter game where Ryu was weak.
    64AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:34
    Re: #49
    In SF2, Ryu and Ken were like the second-weakest after Zangief.
    77AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:40
    Re: #49
    There's never been an era across the whole series where Ryu counted as meta-defining, must-pick material.
    57AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:32
    Re: #53
    No way!? Terry wasn't even in the first game, was he?
    71AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:37
    Re: #57
    Apparently this guy who only shows up on the title screen is Terry's original design. He wasn't properly implemented as a playable character until Fatal Fury.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVUZpIwagAApMEz.jpg
    59AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:33
    Re: #45
    I can never really tell the difference between that and KOF. Who's even the main character in KOF again?
    62AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:33
    Re: #59
    Isn't it Kyo?
    63AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:34
    Re: #59
    Come on, everyone knows Kyo Kusanagi.
    "Heh, bet that lit you up." (his famous catchphrase)
    66AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:35
    Re: #59
    For KOF, I'd say Kyo and Iori are basically the main characters. But the game itself is an SNK all-star crossover, so all kinds of SNK characters show up.
    61AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:33
    An environment where Zangief is strong is worse than garbage. He should stay a total scrub who can only win if he lands one lucky read — anything more and he's just a mountain of stress to fight.
    67AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:35
    Re: #61
    He's not actually strong. He's just got a huge fanbase of diehards who play him no matter what.
    69AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:36
    Terry's story is a myth, but Street Fighter 1's Eagle actually did transfer to Fatal Fury, became Billy, and never came back.
    74AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:38
    Re: #69
    He came back in Capcom vs. SNK 2, though.
    76AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:39
    Re: #69
    You don't know about Zero 3 Upper?
    79AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:42
    Juri really is genuinely popular. Her kit's rough enough that you'd need to actually love the character to stick with her.
    81AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:43
    Re: #79
    She's popular across the board, regardless of gender.
    86AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:47
    I don't know much about this stuff, but couldn't they just buff whoever has the lowest usage rate?
    88AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:47
    Re: #86
    Blanka's a strong character but nobody wants to play him 🥲
    93AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:51
    Why is there a KOF character in this? Did Street Fighter turn into Smash Bros.?
    94AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:52
    Re: #93
    Cross-company character collabs are the big trend in fighting games right now.
    103AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:05
    It's actually fairly spread out, isn't it? Young female characters like Mai, Juri, and Cammy clearly have steady demand.
    107AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:12
    Re: #103
    Then where does that leave Lily and Kimberly, who look even younger?
    122AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:46
    I got wrecked by a Zangief while playing Cammy about two years ago and quit, that jerk.
    124AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:48
    Re: #122
    Cammy looks like she has a lot of freedom, but once you actually play her she feels stifling and weak.

    Background and Key Points

    Zangief has been Street Fighter’s designated joke pick since the earliest games — a slow, no-projectile grappler whose entire kit is built around eating chip damage to land a command grab, and for most of the series’ 35-plus-year history he sat at or near the bottom of tournament tier lists precisely because that playstyle punishes any mistake severely while offering little reward against a competent opponent who just runs away. Street Fighter 6, released by Capcom in 2023, changed the equation with its Drive system and rebalanced grapple mechanics, and Zangief has consistently shown up near the top of the game’s usage-rate charts ever since — a genuine reversal that surprised even longtime players in the thread.

    The actual disagreement in the thread wasn’t about whether Zangief’s numbers are real — nobody disputed the data — but about what the numbers mean. One camp (post 67) argued high usage doesn’t equal high strength: Zangief simply has an unusually loyal fanbase that keeps picking him regardless of win rate, so usage rate is measuring devotion, not power. Nobody in the thread offered hard win-rate data to settle it either way, so the thread ends in disagreement rather than resolution.

    What’s likely to trip up readers unfamiliar with Capcom’s roster history is the Terry Bogard tangent: he did not originate in Street Fighter as a playable fighter. The “Street Fighter 1 Terry” claim refers to an unused/background design sketch that only appears on a title screen, later repurposed when SNK built Fatal Fury (Garou Densetsu) as a spin-off using Capcom’s leftover concept art — a well-known but easily garbled piece of trivia, and the thread’s discussion of it (posts 53, 71) already contains some confusion between “concept origin” and “he was a cut playable character.”

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Good News] Take a Look at the Current Street Fighter 6 Character Usage Rates.”

  • JAF Worker Stops After Being Tailgated, Trapping Car Behind at Railroad Crossing — Arrest Sparks 5ch Blame Debate

    A JAF (Japan Automobile Federation) rescue vehicle, after being tailgated, stopped just past a railroad crossing — leaving the car behind it trapped inside the crossing. The JAF employee was arrested on suspicion of attempted murder. On 5ch, opinion is split between those who say “the following car shouldn’t have entered the crossing until the car ahead had cleared it” and those who say “the fault lies with the tailgater who closed the gap.”

    1AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:19
    [Trapped the Car Behind Inside a Railroad Crossing] JAF Employee Arrested for Attempted Murder
    A 52-year-old man was arrested on the 19th on suspicion of trying to kill a driver by trapping the car behind him inside a level crossing on the Tobu Urban Park Line
    Someone who witnessed the incident right after it happened
    3AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:22
    If he knew that stopping would leave the other driver with nowhere to go, and kept him stuck on the tracks anyway, there's no excuse for that.
    15AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:35
    Re: #3
    Couldn't the car behind have just checked it was safe before entering the crossing?
    18AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:36
    Re: #15
    This.
    The one who was so busy tailgating that he ignored the traffic laws is the one at fault.
    23AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:41
    Re: #15
    That's just a way to avoid an accident happening in the first place — it has nothing to do with whether the perpetrator was at fault for what actually occurred.
    4AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:22
    In a case like this, which side ends up paying compensation to the railway company?
    10AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:28
    Re: #4
    Probably both.
    26AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:43
    Re: #4
    They'll probably be held jointly liable.
    6AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:25
    There really are idiots who barrel onto the tracks even with a car right in front of them.
    8AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:26
    Re: #6
    Guess he really was tailgating, huh.
    109AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:27
    Re: #6
    You wouldn't normally do that.
    He was definitely tailgating.
    32AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:45
    You're taught in driving school not to enter a crossing until the car ahead has cleared it.
    So the JAF employee isn't at fault — the idiot who "died" is.
    53AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:55
    Re: #32
    Unfortunately, he didn't actually die.
    35AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:46
    "I panicked because I was being chased and ended up stopping right after clearing the crossing" — let's go with that story.
    40AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:49
    Re: #35
    But Mr. Kato got out of his car right after exiting the crossing and confronted the victim, who was stopped inside the crossing.
    37AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:48
    Proving intent to kill seems like a stretch.
    Even if they can establish he was aware he was damaging the car,
    you still can't rule out the possibility that he assumed the victim himself would get out and escape (which is exactly what happened).
    41AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:49
    Re: #37
    Is this the type who thinks getting hit by a train is no big deal???
    39AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:48
    "I already felt like the car behind me was crowding me, and when it kept crowding me even at the crossing, I was sure it was deliberate tailgating, so I went to complain" —
    that story does hold together to some degree.
    44AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:51
    Re: #39
    Goes without saying what happens if you leave a car stuck on the tracks in that state, right?
    56AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:55
    His parents' house is just before the crossing, and he was heading there when he got tailgated! So maybe he got so angry he thought, "I'll trap him on the tracks"?

    "From the point in the footage where the gap between suspect Kato's car and the victim's car starts closing, it's about a one-minute drive to the crossing. Suspect Kato's parents' house sits even before the crossing at the scene, so the gap with the victim's car may have closed when he slowed down to turn off toward his parents' place."
    58AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:56
    Re: #56
    So 400m before the scene, there was a normal amount of following distance.

    > A car believed to be suspect Kato's, traveling about 400 meters before the scene.
    Ten seconds later, a car believed to be the victim's can also be seen.
    57AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:55
    I think they should toughen the penalties for tailgating.
    You see it practically every day.
    61AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:58
    Re: #57
    The penalties are already fairly harsh — it's proving it that's hard.
    63AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:59
    When he got trapped,
    he should have just called JAF.

    Then they'd have come back and helped him out. (Ironic, since the perpetrator himself was a JAF employee.)
    66AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:01
    Re: #63
    But this JAF employee knew the accident had happened and still fled home to his parents' place.
    If his parents' house is just before the crossing, maybe he saw the tracks turn into a major accident scene, thought "oh no," and went home anyway.
    71AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:04
    Why couldn't he just drive out past the crossing barrier?
    You'd think a tailgating scumbag would just try to push the car ahead out of the way.
    74AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:05
    Re: #71
    Doesn't a safety feature bring the car to a stop?
    78AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:08
    This one's on the tailgater.
    You can tell from the video — there's basically no following distance at all.
    87AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:15
    Re: #78
    This guy sounds like he's got real talent for it.
    86AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:15
    Wait, about that crossing barrier getting stuck and trapping him… wasn't it supposed to snap easily so you could still get out even if you got trapped?
    97AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:18
    Re: #86
    It's built so it's hard to break going in, but easy to break going out.
    98AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:18
    Re: #86
    He got out of the car because with the way blocked ahead, he thought he'd be killed if he stayed.
    Only after seeing that did the JAF car move.
    By then there probably wasn't time for him to get back in and move his own car.
    101AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:21
    Either way, isn't the one who pushed forward with no space to spare the one at fault?
    104AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:24
    Re: #101
    That's true.
    Everyone has a duty to avoid causing an accident, after all.
    106AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:25
    Re: #101
    What kind of logic is that???
    Are you the type who can't be satisfied unless it's entirely one side's fault?
    122AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:34
    The people defending him are tough on tailgating, but they're conveniently ignoring that stopping near a crossing is a clear traffic violation — it's a no-stopping zone.
    124AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:36
    Re: #122
    If you're going to say that, then you absolutely can't stop inside the crossing either.
    128AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:37
    Re: #124
    But the car ahead stopped right at the crossing exit and blocked the way out — isn't that just unavoidable?
    129AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:38
    Re: #128
    If you're going to say that, then you shouldn't force your way forward when the way ahead is already blocked.
    131AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:39
    Re: #128
    Situations like that can happen (breakdowns, accidents, etc.), which is exactly why the rule is: you only enter a crossing if you're sure you can make it all the way across.

    Background and Key Points

    JAF (Japan Automobile Federation) is a nonprofit roughly equivalent to the AAA in the US — most of its staff drive rescue vans to disabled vehicles rather than get involved in criminal cases, which is part of why an employee facing an attempted-murder charge became national news. The relevant law here isn’t just driving-school etiquette: Japan’s Road Traffic Act explicitly bars entering a railroad crossing unless the driver can be certain of clearing it entirely, and crossing gates are deliberately engineered to resist being pushed on the way in but snap easily on the way out, precisely because vehicles have historically been trapped this way. Separately, “aori unten” (malicious tailgating) was made its own criminal offense in 2020, carrying up to five years’ imprisonment and mandatory license revocation, after a viral highway case exposed how hard tailgating was to prosecute under ordinary traffic rules.

    The thread’s actual fault line isn’t “was tailgating bad” — everyone agrees it was — but whether the trailing driver’s own violation (entering a crossing without a guaranteed clear path) legally or morally cancels out the JAF employee’s choice to stop and trap him there, which prosecutors read as intent to kill.

    What outside readers may miss is that attempted murder in Japan doesn’t require the victim to be harmed; the charge rests on demonstrated intent, not outcome, which is why one poster had to clarify that the escape shown in dashcam footage doesn’t undercut the charge. The thread never engages with the aori unten law itself, even though it’s the more likely charge to actually stick against the trailing driver.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Nanでも実況G) thread “JAF Employee: “I noticed I was being tailgated and stopped — turned out it was right after crossing the tracks” ← Well, that’s fair enough then.”

  • “Money Buys Everything” Sparks Debate on 5ch — “You Can Buy Class Too”

    A thread titled “In the end, this world runs on money” popped up on the Nanimo Jikkyou G board, sparking a debate over whether things like class, happiness, and love can actually be bought with money. One comment arguing “class can’t be bought with money” drew a popular pushback: “You can buy class too — if you’re rich, you don’t really need it anyway.” The thread snowballed into discussions of happiness theory and fantasies about what people would do with infinite money.

    1AnonymousAug 20, 2026 09:56
    If you've got money, you can get anything
    Even a human life
    6AnonymousAug 20, 2026 09:57
    Class can't be bought with money, Leorio. (a nod to the money-obsessed Hunter x Hunter character)
    8AnonymousAug 20, 2026 09:58
    Re: #6
    You can buy class too
    If you're rich you don't really need class anyway
    Though plenty of rich people stay tacky
    12AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:01
    Happiness can't be bought
    Well, that's if there are tons of unhappy rich people
    Depends how you play it
    14AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:01
    Re: #12
    There aren't tons of them
    Unhappy poor people are way more common
    17AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:03
    Extreme example
    Say you had 5 billion yen
    Just dump it all in the S&P 500 and let it sit, you'd pull in about 30 million yen a year
    You could sleep all day if you wanted

    But without money you'd be grinding away for like 20,000 yen a day
    21AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:06
    Re: #17
    There are better dividend options than that
    18AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:06
    As long as the money keeps coming, someone will love you
    24AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:07
    Re: #18
    Exactly this
    With money everyone respects you and people suck up to you
    39AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:20
    Re: #18
    That's not you being loved, that's just women who love money coming around
    27AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:11
    Well, if you start from the conclusion and reverse-engineer the logic, sure, you can make that argument work
    37AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:20
    Re: #27
    Then let me ask, is there anything money can't buy?
    48AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:23
    Money's just a means to an end
    It's like in-game currency that lowers the difficulty
    It makes things easier to get, but whether you actually get them is a different story
    53AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:25
    Whoever owns the foundational AI tech is the strongest
    To AI, humans are basically just bugs
    56AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:27
    Re: #53
    So how much are you making off that 'foundational tech' of yours (lol)?
    63AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:29
    The dumber someone is, the more they want to boil it down to one simple thing
    They don't get that money only works once you already have a healthy body, a peaceful world, a prosperous society, and plenty of good content around you
    67AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:31
    Re: #63
    As a baseline, most people are healthy and content is already overflowing in the world
    65AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:30
    That's just money-loving women flocking to you — you're basically a creepy old dude getting cheated on constantly
    73AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:33
    Re: #65
    Even a woman who doesn't love money would strip if you dropped 100 million yen in front of her
    77AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:36
    So far, nobody's actually named a single thing money can't buy
    78AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:37
    Re: #77
    Well for starters, the 'birth lottery' (gacha) — what country and parents you're born to
    79AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:37
    Once you have money, you just start wanting status, honor, and academic credentials next — the wanting never ends
    80AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:38
    Re: #79
    Status and academic credentials can both be bought with money too
    90AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:42
    Re: #79
    Status and honor can be bought with money
    Just buy a decently big company or hospital and make yourself the president or director
    102AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:48
    Intelligence and refinement can't be bought with money
    105AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:50
    Re: #102
    If you've got money you don't need either of those — they're worthless
    108AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:51
    Re: #105
    Sounds like someone who'd get scammed real easy
    120AnonymousAug 20, 2026 11:04
    Re: #105
    If anything, that's something the poor don't need but the rich do
    103AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:49
    Honestly, the only things money can buy are trivial stuff
    And it's because I don't want to waste my life buying that trivial stuff that I need money in the first place
    106AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:50
    Re: #103
    You're literally wasting your life on it right now

    Background and Key Points

    5ch is the successor to the old 2channel, Japan’s largest anonymous message-board network, and Nanimo Jikkyou (なんJ) is one of its most-read subforums — originally built for live sports commentary but long since drifted into general chat dominated by young, mostly male posters trading deadpan, often self-deprecating banter. The “Leorio” reference nods to Hunter x Hunter, whose money-obsessed character is nanJ shorthand for exactly this argument; invoking him signals the poster expects to be mocked, which is part of the board’s house style. The debate itself sits against three decades of flat real wages and a widening gap between secure “regular” employees and irregular, precarious workers in Japan — the kind of backdrop that makes “just buy an S&P 500 position and stop working” read as aspirational rather than abstract to this audience.

    The thread doesn’t actually split over whether money buys most things — nearly everyone agrees it buys comfort, deference, and escape from labor. The real fault line is over hinkaku, “class” or refinement: one side treats it as an innate trait money can’t touch, the other insists it’s just another purchasable trapping, buyable by literally acquiring a title (company president, hospital director) the way status was bought in earlier eras.

    What’s easy to miss reading this in English is that no one in the thread invokes any actual data — no Gini coefficient, no wage statistics, nothing about Japan’s comparatively narrow income inequality relative to the US. It’s a purely rhetorical, meme-driven exercise, not a policy discussion, and its cynicism is a genre convention of the board rather than a demographic survey of Japanese attitudes toward wealth.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and summaries of the 5ch (Nanimo Jikkyou G board) thread 【[Truth] In the End, This World Runs on Money】.

  • 16% of US Adults Don’t Agree the Earth Is Round — Why Flat Earth Belief Persists

    An article reporting that 16% of US adults don’t agree the Earth is round drew a wave of responses on 5ch’s Science News+ board. While some pointed to religion or poverty as underlying factors, the thread evolved into a debate over ways to verify the Earth’s roundness for yourself — from watching ships vanish over the horizon to laser experiments.

    16% of US Adults Don’t Agree the Earth Is Round… The Background Behind Why the Crackpot “Flat Earth” Theory Persists

    Kazushi Matsumura, Associate Professor, Graduate School of Human Sciences, Osaka University

    That the Earth is round seems like an unquestionable fact of common sense.

    Source: president.jp / Original article here

    16AnonymousAug 21, 2026 03:02
    That number's pretty high.
    Guess it just shows how unequal the society is, with a fixed chunk of people at the extremes.
    25AnonymousAug 21, 2026 05:26
    Re: #16
    It's about religion, not because they're poor.
    26AnonymousAug 21, 2026 06:28
    Too much Minecraft, probably.
    That game's world really is basically flat-earth central.
    28AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:56
    Re: #26
    Play Animal Crossing and you'll believe it's a sphere.
    42AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:38
    Re: #26
    Try climbing up to about height 128 in Minecraft.
    The world's super round.
    27AnonymousAug 21, 2026 06:57
    It's not just Earth — the whole universe is flat, two-dimensional.
    You're all just holograms.
    30AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:04
    Before we even get to whether the US thinks the Earth is round
    Something like 'don't just feed me𓃠 🐙octopus, eat 🦑squid too' and '🦇🦇bats, not 🦟mosquitoes'
    Don't really get it
    31AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:05
    Re: #30
    Duh-earf iz rownd (deliberately garbled, mocking spelling — 地球/'Earth' swapped for a pun meaning 'idiot-level')
    36AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:15
    Prepare two boards, each with a hole at the same height.
    Set them up at points A and B, 10km apart.
    Fire a laser through the hole in the board at point A.
    Since light travels in a straight line, if flat-earth theory were true, the laser from point A should pass through the hole in the board at point B.
    But in reality, the laser never passes through the hole at point B — it hits a spot above the hole, offset upward.
    In other words, this proves the Earth isn't flat, it's a sphere.

    Do this experiment and you'll get it in seconds.
    40AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:28
    Re: #36
    > the laser hits a spot above the hole, offset upward

    If you space them 10km apart, the laser won't even hit unless the boards are ridiculously huge.
    41AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:35
    Re: #36
    You don't even need a laser — just measure the shadow length of identical sticks at distant points at the same time.
    44AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:05
    Isn't it possible some people answered 'I don't believe it's a sphere' because technically it's an oblate spheroid, not a perfect sphere?
    45AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:08
    Re: #44
    Must be rough, but hang in there and keep on living… sheesh.
    64AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:55
    Re: #44
    > oblate spheroid

    To be even more precise, it's shaped more like a pear.
    46AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:17
    This whole world is nothing but data in some simulation game someone's playing — we call the player 'God.'
    47AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:18
    Re: #46
    It's already too late for you…
    49AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:23
    Re: #47
    You can't deny it, right? Both you and I are beings controlled by a game system — just characters inside some advanced SimCity.
    51AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:27
    Re: #49
    Your parents must be going through hell…
    80AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:59
    Re: #49
    Can't confirm it either.
    Things you can neither confirm nor deny are basically just delusion.
    Religion included.
    57AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:43
    You can treat it as flat for practical purposes.
    Keep walking straight and you'll end up back where you started.
    62AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:51
    A flat Earth doesn't add up logically in all sorts of ways — how do these people convince themselves it does?
    63AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:53
    Re: #62
    Probably just never leaving their village.
    68AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:11
    Got called 'Hey, man!' in America — that's not flat, right? (pun: 'hey man' sounds like heimen, 平面, meaning 'flat plane')
    70AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:22
    Are there actually a lot of people who've confirmed the Earth is round by themselves?
    Even the land survey map of my own property doesn't show any elevation difference proving the Earth is a sphere.
    71AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:25
    Re: #70
    Go to the coast and watch a ship approach!
    72AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:27
    Re: #70
    I was born in a coastal town, so I've seen ships sink below the horizon plenty of times since I was a kid.
    75AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:41
    Re: #72
    Maybe try drawing a perspective diagram.
    There's a thing called a vanishing point.
    The logic should be that it becomes a point on the horizon.
    In other words, even when drawing that ship, you never factor in any number for the Earth being round.
    Even a 10m object shrinks to a point and eventually disappears.
    But that's still just it vanishing on flat ground's horizon, nothing more.
    82AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:00
    Huh?
    Can't give a reason?

    This kind of thing has got to be partly about your attitude toward knowledge.
    Personally, I consider anything I can't confirm myself as objective fact to be pure subjectivity.
    I've never confirmed with my own power, without special equipment, that the Earth is round.
    So I can't bring myself to criticize people who think it's flat.
    87AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:16
    Re: #82
    'I only believe what I've confirmed myself' basically means you can't learn from anyone else's knowledge.
    At the end of the day that's just dressing up an excuse to believe misinformation.
    115AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:19
    Re: #82
    You can tell it's a sphere from watching ships vanish over the horizon, or from the round shadow on the moon during a lunar eclipse, right?
    If that's how you think, didn't you ever look into it as a kid?
    91AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:29
    Re: #87
    That's just how I see things, can't help it.
    I make a point of treating only what I can confirm myself as objective fact.
    That doesn't really cause me any problems.
    I just don't casually believe things I can't verify with my own hands.

    For what it's worth, I've studied science, so I'm good at drawing accurate diagrams.
    Not illustrations — diagrams.
    So I have more ability than the average person to read and represent objects scientifically.
    But I've never once actually seen the numbers that show the Earth is round.
    98AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:40
    They used to say there's no water on the moon's surface.
    Apparently that's now considered wrong.
    Turns out there's ice, not water, they say.
    But since I can't confirm it myself, I can't judge which is correct.
    124AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:00
    You're all mocking people who believe in flat earth, aren't you.
    Sure, people who blindly believe what others say without scientific verification are fools.
    But have you all actually verified with your own experiments that the Earth is a sphere?
    Or are you just believing what other people tell you?
    Huh, doesn't that make you no different from the fools you're mocking!

    Here's an experiment anyone can use to verify the Earth is round.
    If it's a sphere, then the water's surface is curved too, not flat.
    So look across a body of water more than 5km wide and see if you can spot the far shore.
    If it's curved, you shouldn't be able to see the low shoreline — only the tops of tall buildings.
    5km is the distance at which, given Earth's diameter, the far side disappears below the sea surface.

    Do this and you too are a proper scientist.
    By the way, here's a photo from when I actually ran the experiment.
    https://media.wired.jp/photos/65ffee09c971dd1c60869ff1/master/w_1600,c_limit/science-pontchartrain-(1).jpg

    Background and Key Points

    The number the article cites echoes a genre of English-language polling from the past decade — YouGov-style surveys that ask Americans whether they’ve “always believed,” “used to believe but now doubt,” or “never believed” the Earth is round, with the flat-Earth-adjacent minority landing somewhere around one in six. That movement itself is not new: it traces to the 19th-century “Zetetic” society founded by Samuel Rowbotham, and was revived in the 2010s largely through YouTube and podcast conspiracy culture, often overlapping with distrust of NASA, biblical literalism, and general institutional skepticism — the “religion, not poverty” framing raised early in the thread is closer to the actual research literature than the “unequal society” theory it was responding to.

    What the thread actually divided over wasn’t belief versus disbelief in a round Earth — nobody on 5ch endorsed flat-Earth theory outright — but a meta-question: what counts as legitimate proof, and who gets to claim they’ve “verified” anything themselves. Posters proposing horizon, laser, and shadow experiments were met not by flat-Earth pushback but by a self-described empiricist arguing that trusting textbook diagrams is itself just secondhand belief, no different in kind from religious faith. That argument, and the pushback that refusing all secondhand knowledge makes learning from anyone impossible, is the real fault line here.

    The thing likely to be missed by readers unfamiliar with the source: a “don’t fully agree the Earth is round” response in polling isn’t the same as “believes the Earth is flat” — it usually captures agnosticism or reflexive contrarianism toward a question people rarely think about, not a coherent competing cosmology.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Science News+) thread “[Pseudoscience] 16% of US Adults Don’t Agree the Earth Is Round… The Background Behind Why the Crackpot “Flat Earth” Theory Persists”.