Author: Japan Reacts Editorial

  • Backlash Erupts Over ‘Can’t Eat Fatty BBQ Past 30′ Claim — 5ch Says ’40 and Still Going Strong’

    A thread on 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo board) titled “Once you’re over 30 you can’t eat fatty short rib anymore” sparked an age-based debate over BBQ fat. The thread starter complained of feeling bloated right after eating yakiniku, but posters in their 20s and 30s pushed back hard: “I can eat as much as I want even at 40,” “Isn’t that just individual differences?” On the other hand, some admitted to real physical changes that come with age — “my joints and autonomic nervous system are wrecked,” “marbled wagyu is genuinely rough these days” — and plenty shared how they’d come to prefer offal or alcohol over fatty cuts. The discussion ended up going deeper than a simple young-versus-old split.

    1AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:04
    Me who just ate a serving of salted tongue, a serving of liver, a medium rice, and seaweed soup: "Uuurgh…"
    3AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:05
    Me right before bed: "Blegh… 🤮"
    4AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:06
    This guy's never actually lived (he's talking like he's never tried it himself)
    I can eat as much as I want even at 40
    5AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:07
    Re: #4
    Come on, that's pushing it
    21AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:14
    Re: #4
    But you do start preferring skirt steak over fatty short rib
    9AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:09
    For me it's short rib → bone-in short rib → premium short rib → back to short rib, on repeat
    10AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:09
    Once you hit 30 something's bound to start breaking down somewhere
    I can still put away a slice of short rib with rice just fine
    but my joints and autonomic nervous system are wrecked
    11AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:10
    I'm 40 and totally fine too
    Feels like it just comes down to individual differences
    13AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:11
    Making a thread you thought was interesting and having literally nobody push back is really embarrassing
    14AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:11
    Check social media, every middle-aged guy is out there eating meat
    Maybe you're just broke and can't afford it at your age
    15AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:11
    Can't eat fatty meat…
    ↓
    Can scarf down burgers and pizza no problem
    16AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:11
    Bragging about having a weak stomach went out of style ages ago
    how long are you gonna keep this up
    17AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:12
    I already couldn't handle short rib by age 22 🥹
    Eat it and I get diarrhea 100% of the time
    18AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:13
    I can eat a short rib BBQ rice bowl just fine, but at an actual grill place, ordering it à la carte and then plowing through a bunch more cuts one after another — that's just not a thing for me anymore, that's my sense of it
    19AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:13
    I can eat it, I just don't need to
    20AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:14
    Re: #19
    Yeah, that's basically it
    25AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:15
    At this age I've come to prefer eating it light, with grated daikon and ponzu, over BBQ sauce
    27AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:15
    Re: #25
    Yeah, that might be a factor too
    26AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:15
    Me, pushing 50, taking on the KFC all-you-can-eat lunch:
    One drumstick
    One crispy piece
    Coleslaw
    One biscuit
    Me: *burp*… don't need dinner tonight 🥺
    28AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:15
    Re: #26
    Isn't that kind of rough
    40AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:24
    Marbled wagyu is genuinely rough these days
    honestly it's weird that people treat that stuff like it's precious, it's basically all fat
    41AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:25
    Re: #40
    Apparently even Americans who pig out on T-bone steaks find it tough going
    46AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:29
    Honestly shoveling white rice down with short rib is the best way to eat it
    this whole take is really just vanity dressed up as an argument — like enjoying it makes you look like a kid, so people front otherwise
    47AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:30
    Re: #46
    It's basically like bragging about not sleeping
    it's embarrassing
    64AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:37
    Re: #46
    If that's the goal, steak and rice seems like the better call honestly
    with BBQ you're grilling it yourself bit by bit and taking your time, so isn't that kind of built around drinking

    if I'm the designated driver at a barbecue though, I go all-in on grilled rice balls and fatty meat
    51AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:31
    Re: #42
    Yeah, that's pretty much it
    young guys can just plow through fatty meat and rice
    it gets tougher as you get older
    69AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:39
    Re: #51
    If I'd been drinking since I was young, I don't think I'd have eaten white rice with it

    without alcohol, even a middle-aged guy will eat rice with fatty meat — it's just that you wouldn't pick a BBQ place for a no-drinking occasion in the first place
    56AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:33
    I'm 35 and I've never once had my stomach get heavy from eating greasy food, am I some kind of outlier? lol
    57AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:34
    Re: #56
    At 35 you might still be fine
    but bit by bit it shifts from rice-and-short-rib
    toward
    offal-and-booze
    62AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:36
    How tough your gut is varies a ton person to person
    pro baseball players, for instance, have insanely strong stomachs
    67AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:39
    Re: #62
    68AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:39
    Re: #67
    Well, there's some truth to that
    65AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:38
    Re: #64
    Nah, with BBQ it's rice, hands down
    rice over booze
    76AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:42
    Re: #65
    If I'm not drinking, I just want to eat quick and head home, so a steakhouse works better for me
    BBQ places take forever

    if I am drinking though, I'd rather be lazily grilling meat myself, so BBQ it is
    70AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:40
    Re: #69
    Yeah, young people really do want white rice with their BBQ
    they can handle rice plus booze together no problem
    80AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:44
    Re: #70
    That's possible too, but the booze tastes better without white rice
    cut the rice and drink twice as much instead — you'll get wrecked, trust me
    77AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:43
    If you can't wake up hungover and eat a steak within 5 minutes, you'll never make it as a pro baseball player
    97AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:53
    Nah, I'm done with BBQ
    haven't eaten it in like 7-8 years now
    I still eat ramen occasionally even though it's just as heavy
    but with age I've genuinely shifted from meat to fish
    99AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:54
    Re: #97
    Every time I eat Ramen Jiro-style ramen (a famously huge, greasy ramen chain) I get diarrhea, but somehow when I'm starving enough I still want to go back for more, no matter how many times it happens

    Background and key points

    Threads like this are a recurring genre on 5ch — the “getting older” thread — and there’s no established medical consensus here. As one poster in the thread put it, “how tough your gut is varies a lot person to person,” so tolerance for fatty meat seems to hinge more on individual constitution and everyday diet than on age alone. What’s notable is that most of the pushback wasn’t really about being unable to eat fatty meat at all, but about how people’s eating style changes. Several posters described shifting away from piling rice with fatty cuts toward favoring offal and tongue that pair well with alcohol — framing it less as declining digestion with age and more as a change in how they relate to drinking and personal taste. Note that some posts disparaging other commenters have been left out of this writeup.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo board) thread “Middle-aged guy: “Once you’re over 30 you can’t eat fatty short rib anymore” 20-something me: “As if lol”“.

  • Juice=Juice’s ‘BLOODY BULLET’ MV Tops 1 Million Views 35 Days After Release

    The music video for Juice=Juice’s new song “BLOODY BULLET” has surpassed 1 million views on YouTube. The track appears on the EP “MORE! MORE! EP,” released June 24, 2026 — and while it hit 500,000 views just three days after release, it reportedly took another 35 days to cross the 1 million mark. On 5ch’s Hello! Project board, posters noted that the early momentum didn’t carry through, and a wave of comparisons with view counts for other Hello! Project groups’ MVs and live footage sparked disagreement over how the groups stack up in popularity.

    1AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:36
    Juice=Juice "BLOODY BULLET" (Music Video)
    tps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrGLxAWIUJo
    This is the Music Video for "BLOODY BULLET," from Juice=Juice's EP "MORE! MORE! EP," released June 24, 2026.
    2AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:36
    That's slooow lol
    This is supposed to be the group that went viral? lol
    3AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:37
    So it took over a month from that initial burst…
    4AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:37
    Not much different from the other Hello! Project groups at this point.
    5AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:38
    It's completely cooled off now.
    People are tired of it — both new fans and longtime fans are bailing.
    7AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:38
    Re: #1
    2026 Hello! Project MVs (plus live videos with 1M+ views) sorted by view count
    10AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:39
    Re: #7
    Even with Juice=Juice going easy on everyone, every single MV except "Dantotsu de Aishite" is already losing? Come on.
    32AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:48
    Re: #7
    And in the first place, even for Juice=Juice, the fact that the live footage is outperforming the MV proves making an MV at all is a waste — UP-FRONT needs to wake up to that.
    18AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:43
    After all that negative campaigning against them… why isn't it working?
    22AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:44
    Re: #18
    Seriously, if Juice=Juice fans are going to badmouth people both inside and outside their own camp, they should put that energy into boosting the MV views instead lol
    No wonder it's taking this long even with the view-padding lol
    20AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:44
    It broke 500K in 3 days after release.
    Then it took another 35 days to get from there to 1 million.
    24AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:45
    Re: #20
    Really shows both the #PR effect and people losing interest, doesn't it (#PR is a hashtag marking paid/sponsored promotion, like "#ad")
    23AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:45
    Re: #1
    View counts over the past 24 hours (quoted from HaroMiri)

    8,829 views — Juice=Juice "BLOODY BULLET"


    7,260 views — Morning Musume。'26 "Lonely…But not Alone"


    4,685 views — OCHA NORMA "Dantotsu de Aishite" (roughly "Love Me Above All")


    2,306 views — Tsubaki Factory "Mappira Datteba!" ("No Way, I Said!")


    2,218 views — ANGERME "BaBaBa Burning Love!"


    1,329 views — BEYOOOOONDS "Hi! Tension"


    *,906 views — Rosy Chronicle "Misery ~Ai no Tenbin~" ("Misery ~Scales of Love~")
    27AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:46
    Re: #23
    "Dantotsu de Aishite" isn't gaining much either at this point,
    so in the end "Bura-Bare" (fan shorthand for BLOODY BULLET) will probably end up as 2026's biggest-growing MV after all
    33AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:50
    Re: #32
    So going forward they basically don't even need MVs when they drop a song lol
    Total waste of money lol
    Well, it's all just #PR anyway lol
    37AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:52
    AKB's basically stolen the whole spotlight at this point lol

    Background and Discussion Points

    YouTube view counts tend to split into an initial “launch” surge right after release and a slower, steady climb afterward; when that later growth cools off, it’s easily read as fans “losing interest.” That said, MV view counts alone don’t capture the full picture of a group’s popularity. Hello! Project groups also post separate live-performance videos on their official channels apart from MVs, and as noted in the thread, some groups — including Juice=Juice — have live videos on their own channels topping 10 million views, meaning views end up split across multiple videos. Without combining the two, a straightforward comparison is difficult. In the thread, fans of different groups kept trading barbs using view counts as ammunition, but the figures cited are public data that update continuously, so declaring a clear winner or loser based on one snapshot in time is premature.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “[Breaking] Juice=Juice’s “BLOODY BULLET” MV Tops 1 Million Views キタ━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━!!“

  • Why Won’t Japanese Automakers Rush Into Self-Driving? 5ch: ‘Our Own Pettiness Would Turn It Into a Scandal’

    A post titled “Why don’t Japanese car companies hurry up and develop self-driving cars already?” appeared on 5ch’s Nyuusoku VIP board and drew a flood of responses. The discussion centered on where liability falls in an accident — commenters noted that Japan’s regulatory approach is moving toward holding the person in the driver’s seat responsible, rather than the manufacturer, with some arguing this would keep the technology from ever catching on. Posters raised both reasons development is lagging — Japan’s narrow roads and low speed limits — and reasons it’s urgently needed, like the driver shortage reflected in shrinking bus schedules. In the end, opinions never converged.

    1AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:49
    Aren't they worried, watching the US and China roll this out?
    12AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:58
    If the driver gets blamed whenever there's an accident, then what's even the point?
    And if it's the manufacturer's fault instead, China or the US would probably just shrug it off as "well, these things happen" —
    but with how nasty and petty Japanese people can be, they'd turn it into a huge scandal.
    62AnonymousSep 3, 2026 16:55
    Re: #12
    If it's the manufacturer's fault, the US would actually take a bigger hit —
    they got slapped with a ¥3 billion payout just because someone burned themselves on McDonald's coffee.
    14AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:59
    Don't worry about it — even US and Chinese self-driving cars couldn't handle Japan's narrow streets anyway.
    20AnonymousSep 3, 2026 16:04
    Re: #14
    The road conditions are just too different?
    16AnonymousSep 3, 2026 16:00
    There's no way Japan can pull this off — Japanese companies are terrible at software.
    18AnonymousSep 3, 2026 16:03
    Re: #16
    Yeah, that tracks — this is the country that couldn't even make an iPhone.
    19AnonymousSep 3, 2026 16:04
    Self-driving's already come a long way though
    parking is basically one-touch now.
    21AnonymousSep 3, 2026 16:06
    Re: #19
    There's still no car that can take you wherever you want with zero driver, though.
    22AnonymousSep 3, 2026 16:08
    https://youtu.be/vAzS2uSNDYA?si=HCkgIT11I8_7JqYM

    Look, it can even handle Japan's narrow streets.
    40AnonymousSep 3, 2026 16:25
    Re: #22
    No it can't.
    It only handles big roads and situations where crawling along is expected.
    It can't handle the roads that make up most of Japan — single lane each way but a 40 or 50 km/h speed limit.
    Just put one moped in front of it and the whole thing falls apart.
    28AnonymousSep 3, 2026 16:13
    Self-driving companies are actually the hottest thing in Japanese stocks right now.
    If you're saying this without knowing about Dynamic Map Platform or Tier IV, that's embarrassing.
    34AnonymousSep 3, 2026 16:16
    Re: #28
    Japan's still massively behind though.
    64AnonymousSep 3, 2026 16:56
    Re: #28
    They're not "hot" at all, and those companies barely register — no way they're taking over the industry.
    49AnonymousSep 3, 2026 16:32
    When a human causes an accident, it's just bad luck.
    When self-driving causes one, it's a scandal.
    54AnonymousSep 3, 2026 16:45
    Re: #49
    In Japan, even for self-driving cars, the plan is to make the person sitting in the driver's seat — or wherever they could hit the emergency brake — take responsibility.
    55AnonymousSep 3, 2026 16:48
    Re: #54
    Well then it's never going to catch on, is it.
    60AnonymousSep 3, 2026 16:53
    Re: #54
    That just makes the driver a lab rat.
    69AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:07
    Do we even need self-driving in the first place?
    72AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:11
    Re: #69
    Of course we do.
    For industry, there's a labor shortage.
    For regular people it's just easier, and it eliminates mistakes that come from manual driving.
    Most accidents are human error anyway.
    71AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:11
    Re: #69
    Cutting driver labor costs would bring taxi fares down.
    86AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:25
    Re: #71
    "Fewer workers means lower prices" is a fantasy.
    Name one thing that got cheaper because of a labor shortage.

    Re: #72
    Automation already exists in things like factory line-tracing or mining dump trucks.
    I work in the auto industry, so I know automatic braking has definitely cut down on regular accidents,
    but avoiding accidents at the margins really comes down to human prediction and judgment calls —
    automating it as things stand now is still going to produce plenty of errors…
    What needs fixing isn't the cars, it's the roads.
    91AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:30
    Re: #86
    Yeah, until someone deals with the chaotic road layouts, it's just not happening.


    Basically what you're saying is Japan needs to redo its urban planning and rebuild entire towns.
    92AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:30
    Re: #86
    It's not about cheap versus expensive.
    Companies are going bankrupt because they can't secure workers, and that's hitting the economy hard.
    And the labor shortage can't be solved without bringing in a huge number of immigrants.

    Back in 2000, seniors made up one-sixth of the working-age population.
    Now it's one-third, and in 30 years it's projected to be nearly half.
    The shortfall will hit 10 million workers before long.

    Even Tokyo's bus services have cut over 100 routes due to driver shortages.
    This is a genuinely serious situation.
    76AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:14
    Re: #71
    Even in the US it's sometimes a bit cheaper, sometimes pricier, depending on the case,
    so in Japan it'll probably end up more expensive if anything.

    Either way, a new service in Japan never comes out cheaper — that's just how it's always been.
    78AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:16
    Re: #76
    Oh, it's not cheaper?
    Is that just because it's still in the testing phase?
    80AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:19
    Re: #76
    Japan's labor shortage is serious, and especially in jobs that require certifications,
    what little talent exists flows toward competitive big companies.
    Small and midsize businesses can't secure workers and are going bankrupt one after another.
    The logistics sector is in really bad shape.
    89AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:28
    Re: #86
    Simple as that — the amount of work just goes down.
    98AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:45
    Re: #89
    If you were the one running the company, would you cut labor costs and then turn around and shrink your own profits? Come on.

    Re: #91
    I've actually tried Tesla's Autopilot in Tokyo, and it lost track of the lane even at a curving intersection.
    Out in the countryside the road surface is bad and the white lines are faded or gone in a lot of places — that needs fixing first.

    Re: #92
    "Labor shortage" just means a shortage of "cheap labor," doesn't it?
    If the population is shrinking and drivers are decreasing, then riders must be decreasing too.
    I don't know if cutting 100 routes overnight means riders are now overflowing, but just adding supply doesn't mean anything.
    Besides, in Tokyo the trains and taxis are already packed.
    What's actually needed first is better pay for drivers.
    100AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:47
    Re: #98
    But if you lower the price, wouldn't sales and profit go up too?
    105AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:55
    Re: #100
    That kind of price war, combined with pressure from insurance companies, is exactly what's made the entire auto-repair industry poor and short-staffed.
    And it's not just repair shops — if being cheap and pulling in customers actually meant profit, every non-discount chain would've died out by now, every supermarket in Japan would be a My Basket (a discount supermarket chain), and every barbershop would be a ¥1,000 quick-cut place.
    The reality is that customers who show up for cheapness don't actually make you money.
    106AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:55
    Re: #100
    So you're saying that just leaves us with a society where only the corporations profit and employees get nothing out of it.
    101AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:49
    It's not just self-driving — Japan has an extremely strong tendency to avoid any worst-case "just in case" scenario.
    America, on the other hand, is the country of "sacrifices are just part of scientific progress, desu" (a mocking, deliberately stilted phrase poking fun at the American attitude).
    I don't think either one is "right" —
    Japanese cars are famous for not breaking down, America leads in self-driving — each is just playing to its own strengths.
    102AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:52
    Re: #101
    Given how competitive things are now, I feel like Japan can't really afford to keep saying that anymore.
    107AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:56
    Re: #101
    Excessive safety standards.
    Excessive quality.
    That's exactly what caused Japan's decline.
    And these days Japan isn't even at the top of the world in quality anymore —
    in plenty of fields it's fallen behind due to lack of technology.
    A big part of that comes down to a shortage of engineers and the broader economic impact.
    112AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:03
    Re: #108
    Well, wages are inching up little by little, but they're trailing way behind price increases, so it's not like life's actually getting easier…
    That's why there are so many contract-based rehires and elderly workers now, plus short-term gig work through apps like Timee.

    And with buses, the problem is wages are way too low compared to the cost of getting a Class 2 large-vehicle license.
    Apparently driving tour buses pays something like ¥300,000-400,000 a month, so people go that route instead.
    116AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:07
    Re: #112
    At the end of the day, someone needs to cure companies of their deflation addiction.
    118AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:14
    Workers who make up the labor force are also consumers of everything — they ARE the demand.
    If they can't earn properly, population and demand will never grow.
    So what's the point of cutting the very workers who generate demand, through foreign labor or automation?

    A lot of people saying "cut civil servants' pay" don't get this either.

    Re: #116
    Small and midsize companies founded in the late Showa to early Heisei era are about due to pass to a second or third-generation owner, age-wise.
    Whether the ones running things like slave labor actually improve remains to be seen.
    For big companies, that's probably a tough ask.
    121AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:22
    Re: #118
    There's no realistic prospect of the working-age population growing in any developed country.
    To begin with, changing lifestyles in developed nations brought greater wealth, more women entering the workforce, and later marriage as a result.
    The data also shows that later marriage brings down the birth rate.
    The only developed country where the population keeps growing — and is projected to keep growing — is the immigration powerhouse that is the United States.
    America's real GDP will stay decisively No. 1.
    Even in India, birth rates among the wealthy are starting to fall.
    China's population is expected to drop sharply going forward.

    An economy runs on people, and on the movement of people.
    Business scales up too — from within a prefecture to nationwide, from nationwide to global.

    A certain amount of foreign labor is essential.
    On top of that, we have no choice but to cover the rest with AI.
    125AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:32
    Building office towers and high-rise condos pushes GDP up, you know.
    That's exactly how China's GDP went up — and since nobody's actually living in a lot of those buildings, it's already expected to come back down.
    127AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:33
    Re: #125
    But China's got EVs just sitting abandoned everywhere, and building prices have crashed to 30% of what they were — that's a massive recession.
    128AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:34
    Re: #125
    Even a kid knows the US economy is the center of the world.
    It's on a completely different scale than Japan.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    When it comes to the legal framework around self-driving cars, discussion in Japan has been trending toward holding the human monitoring the vehicle responsible for accidents — a premise that differs fundamentally from the US model, where the manufacturer bears the risk. This difference in liability structure came up in the thread as one answer to the question of “why isn’t Japan hurrying up with development.” At the same time, the idea that “Japan isn’t doing anything” is a misconception — domestic self-driving-related companies like Tier IV and Dynamic Map Platform are drawing real attention on the stock market, meaning development is very much underway, just at a different scale and pace than in the US or China. Another key point raised was that self-driving is being discussed not simply as a convenience, but as a response to the structural labor shortage symbolized by shrinking bus schedules — and opinions on whether the cost-cutting angle is justified never quite lined up by the end.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nyuusoku VIP) thread “Why don’t Japanese car companies hurry up and develop self-driving cars already?.”

  • NHK’s “Utacon” Official X Uses “#Ebamifu” Hashtag — 5ch: “Guess NHK’s Rooting for Ebamifu Too”

    The official X (formerly Twitter) account for NHK General TV’s music program “Utacon” posted using “#Ebamifu,” the fan nickname for Juice=Juice members Ebata Kisaki and Kawashima Mifuu. The pair covered Wink’s “Sabishii Netsutaigyo” (Lonely Tropical Fish) on the show, and the fact that the official account adopted a fan-coined hashtag as-is became a hot topic on 5ch’s Hello! Project board. Reactions in the thread leaned positive — “even NHK’s endorsed it now” — while others called for the duo to perform together live, and some speculated about which pairing might break out next year.

    Utacon

    @nhk_utacon

    #Utacon

    Source: web.nhk / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:24
    Classic Ebamifu
    3AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:26
    #Ebamifu 💛❤
    5AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:27
    The photo's a little different from last time
    6AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:27
    Funny how whenever Eba's photo comes out great, Mifu's looks a bit off, and when Mifu's looks great, Eba's is the one that's off
    9AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:31
    Guess NHK's rooting for Ebamifu too, huh
    34AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:37
    Juice=Juice wins yet again
    41AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:38
    A prince and princess, huh
    gotta smash that like button
    42AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:45
    Mippuru, Mippuru (Mifuu's nickname)
    43AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:49
    Truly the dominant duo of the Reiwa era
    44AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:49
    Ebamifu: now NHK-verified
    51AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:59
    Re: #44
    Makes it easier for the commercial networks to use "Ebamifu" now too
    45AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:50
    Are they doing a duo performance at the venue?
    C'mon, NHK
    46AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:51
    Kind of excited to see if ANGERME blows up next year and Mochihana gets put in the spotlight
    52AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:00
    Re: #46
    Nagano Momoha and Uemura Reina already did their "Reiwa-era Wink" bit in Up to Boy, so Gotou Hana didn't make the cut
    47AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:52
    No cost in just fantasizing about it
    50AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:58
    Ebamifu: NHK-approved
    53AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:03
    ■ YouTube
    [Utacon] Lonely Tropical Fish / Juice=Juice | NHK
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_n-5BoBsbQ
    54AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:03
    [Utacon] Lonely Tropical Fish / Juice=Juice's Ebata Kisaki & Kawashima Mifuu — IT'S UP ON YOUTUBE キタ━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━!!
    https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1788429775/
    56AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:15
    Ankasu fans, lmaooo, serves you right (Ankasu = a mocking slur for ANGERME haters)
    57AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:16
    That's just being a fan at that point, honestly
    58AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:17
    [Image] Sandwichman's World Shock-Laugh Video Agency! (TV Asahi): "The Strongest Idol Squad! Juice=Juice's Ebata Kisaki and 2 Others Hold a Straw Triathlon"
    https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1788430579/
    60AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:36
    Wish I could show Aida-san these two (especially Eba)…
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vjfp9TKUbVg
    61AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:36
    Cute and can actually sing too
    67AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:38
    The jealousy from the Ankasu crowd feels so good

    Background and key points of this story

    “Utacon” is a weekly music program on NHK General TV, and its official X account regularly posts updates about each episode’s performers. What drew attention this time was the account’s use of “#Ebamifu,” a hashtag built from a nickname already well established among fans — reactions in the thread were largely positive, with comments like “even NHK’s endorsed it now” and “makes it easier for the official account to use going forward.” That said, using a fan-made hashtag is a fairly routine part of how the show runs its social media, and it’s easy to mistake it for an official announcement of the pair as a unit or a promise they’ll keep being paired together — which it isn’t. The thread also saw some light back-and-forth with fans of other groups, but that kind of banter is common between Hello! Project fanbases and isn’t really connected to this particular story.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “[Breaking] Utacon (NHK General TV) Official X: “#Ebamifu 💛❤” [Juice=Juice/Ebata Kisaki/Kawashima Mifuu/Wink/Lonely Tropical Fish].”

  • Okamura Homare’s Height Is 167cm — 5ch Says ‘Small Face, Long Limbs’

    Weekly Famitsu’s Thursday edition featured Morning Musume。’26 member Okamura Homare, sharing recent photos alongside a preview of the new single “Lonely…But not Alone/Yes ka No ka Watashi ka,” out September 30. On 5ch’s Hello! Project board, the reveal of Okamura’s height as 167cm sparked discussion, with users pointing out a discrepancy from a height list circulating back in 2023 (which listed Okamura at 169cm), prompting jokes like “why’d she shrink?” The thread also lit up over how her small face and long limbs make her look taller, along with comparisons to other tall members across Hello! Project.

    1AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:04
    I thought she was taller
    2AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:05
    Weekly Famitsu (Thursday releases) @WeeklyFamitsu

    "Leading the group with polished skills and visuals"

    Morning Musume。'26's Okamura Homare appears in Monthly Halo Tsuu in the September 3 issue of Weekly Famitsu! New single "Lonely…But not Alone/Yes ka No ka Watashi ka" drops September 30!!

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HRMnI1ua4AAg3X9.jpg:orig#.jpg
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HRMnI1iaQAAkNql.jpg:orig#.jpg
    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2095061312137256960/vid/avc1/1280×720/mPR4ItfO_9kEyn0B.mp4
    3AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:06
    2019



    2026

    5AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:08
    Re: #3
    Kinda looks like the cover of one of those "went back to the countryside" adult videos (a common Japanese AV genre trope)
    9AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:12
    Tallest in Morning Musume。history?
    11AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:13
    Wait, isn't her pet a toy poodle?
    18AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:16
    Re: #11
    Pretty sure Koromo-chan is the same breed as Morito's dog, so yeah, toy poodle checks out
    12AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:14
    27AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:25
    Re: #12
    What's with this Ultraseven-looking tracksuit lol
    36AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:37
    Re: #12
    Height's about the same as Marii's
    But her face is small and her limbs are long
    65AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:17
    Re: #12
    Tallest one of them all and yet the smallest face
    20AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:19
    Why'd she shrink

    1: 2023/07/06 (Thu) 15:32:19.61 0
    Group average: 159.2cm

    169cm Okamura
    166cm Makino
    165cm Yuketa
    164cm Haga
    163cm Fukumura
    162cm Yamazaki
    161cm Sakurai
    158cm Ikuta / Kitagawa
    157cm Nonaka
    153cm Ishida
    152cm Oda / Yokoyama
    150cm Inoue
    72AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:30
    Re: #20
    Looking at this, a lot of them are in the 160s
    21AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:20
    Thought she'd be bigger, but compared to the other members I guess this checks out
    24AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:23
    Homare
    Guess she'll go down as the tallest member in Morning Musume。history
    28AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:27
    Feels like she should be taller — must be the small face throwing off the perception
    30AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:28
    Small face and long limbs probably make her look taller than she actually is
    34AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:35
    Re: #33
    Seriously? That's a shame
    Wait, Iida was that tall?
    37AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:37
    These days being around 167cm doesn't even get you called a 'big useless tree' anymore (udo no taiboku — a Japanese idiom for someone tall but 'good for nothing')
    39AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:39
    Hasn't Yuketa already surpassed her?
    41AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:41
    Re: #39
    In the photo above they look about the same
    42AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:42
    Even at 170 nobody says that anymore lol
    You'd need like 190 for that now
    43AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:43
    Is Homare so tall she doesn't have a duo partner?
    46AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:44
    Re: #43
    That's why she's close with Eguchi Saya from BEYOOOOONDS
    45AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:44
    Her 'partner' is a panda, and one of her batchmates got kicked out over a scandal
    49AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:46
    Re: #46
    I'll bring it up
    Nah, that one's beside the point
    51AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:47
    She's got great proportions but it's not really being used to her advantage
    52AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:49
    She put on weight and it got rough for a while, but she slimmed down and looks great now
    53AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:52
    She wore that silver getup at the Hello! Con and it was hilarious
    55AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:57
    Re: #35
    Say that to Kumai-chan's face
    56AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:59
    Current top 3 tallest in Hello! Project right now are
    Eguchi Saya
    Maeko
    Nina
    something like that?
    57AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:00
    What are you even talking about
    61AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:14
    Homatan's tall, but for some reason people don't call her 'great proportions'
    62AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:16
    181cm
    63AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:16
    I think her proportions are good, it's just her posture that's bad
    64AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:17
    Kids who skip their bath ("furo-can") just to sleep more end up growing taller
    66AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:18
    Next to Kumai-chan even Sayarin looks like a kid
    69AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:24
    71AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:30
    How tall someone looks depends on what's around them for contrast
    With Oda and Haru-san next to her, she looks even bigger

    Background and Discussion Points

    Idol profile heights are usually self-reported figures released by talent agencies, so it’s not unusual for the number to shift due to whether shoes were worn, when the measurement was taken, or updates made after a growth spurt. The gap noted in the thread — 169cm as of 2023 versus 167cm now — is more likely the result of a remeasurement or profile update than an actual decrease in height, and it’s worth being cautious about treating it as confirmed fact rather than an unverified rumor that’s taken on a life of its own. The thread also compared her height to other tall members like Eguchi Saya and Maeko, but since each group publishes its own self-reported figures, precise comparisons across groups have their limits. It’s also worth keeping in mind that impressions about a small face or long limbs are really about body proportions rather than actual height differences.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Homatan, 167cm.”

  • Morning Musume。’26 Set for Buzz Rhythm 02 — 5ch: “No Talk Segment, Ranked Below Tsubaki”

    It’s been announced that Morning Musume。’26 will appear on Nippon TV’s late-night music show “Buzz Rhythm 02” on September 25. As is now customary, the announcement carries its recurring disclaimer: “Miki Nonaka will not be appearing.” Thread posters were happy at the chance to see the new single “Lonely” performed, but once it became clear the appearance would be studio-performance only with no talk segment, comparisons to Tsubaki Factory and Juice=Juice’s past appearances on the show piled up, with many feeling Morning Musume was being treated as a lesser act. Speculation also swirled that the schedule of a guest actress was to blame, and the discussion broadened into the disparity in TV exposure between different Hello! Project groups.

    1AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:09
    9/25 (Fri) 24:59–25:59
    Nippon TV's "Buzz Rhythm 02" *Miki Nonaka will not be appearing.
    Morning Musume。'26 #morningmusume26 #モーニング娘26 #ハロプロ [Hello! Project] #Helloproject
    3AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:10
    Main guest?
    5AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:11
    The only time you can catch "Morning" Whatever-They're-Called is in the middle of the night
    6AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:12
    "Lonely"?
    Yes!!
    7AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:12
    Panda: "Ah, glad it turned out to be Morning Musume." [note: "Panda" appears to be a nickname for a personality/commentator referenced on the thread]
    18AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:15
    Re: #7
    Tsubaki (Factory) was JUST on though
    8AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:12
    Guess they can't dance to "Lonely" either
    9AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:12
    If Cheru isn't appearing then it's just a studio live… makes me nostalgic for when I watched in the audience…
    10AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:13
    So even the flagship group finally gets this treatment
    11AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:13
    I'll be in Mito that day so I can't watch live
    Guess I'll record it and catch it later
    12AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:13
    What about ANGERME?
    13AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:13
    Is Moa-chan appearing?
    23AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:18
    I'll leave late-night shows to Musume and ANGERME
    JJ (Juice=Juice) will keep grinding away in prime time lol
    30AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:25
    Re: #23
    ANGERME can't even get ON a late-night show though
    40AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:33
    Re: #23
    ANGERME doesn't even have late-night appearances, are you making fun of us?
    25AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:18
    Apparently if there's no studio-audience call, it means you're not the main act
    Meanwhile Juice=Juice and Tsubaki Factory WERE the main act
    27AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:19
    Most recent "Buzz Rhythm 02" appearance, by group:
    Morning Musume: 2025 "Akaruku Ii Ko" ["A Bright Good Kid"] → 2026 "Lonely"
    ANGERME: 2024 "Yuuyuu Kankan" ["Carefree and Leisurely"]
    Juice=Juice: 2026 "Moreme" [wordplay on "looking good/photogenic"]
    Tsubaki Factory: 2026 "FireWorks"
    BEYOOOOONDS: 2023 "Tabibito-zan" ["The Traveler's Word Problem"]
    OCHA NORMA: none
    ROSSO: none
    31AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:25
    Hinatazaka46, CANDY TUNE, Tokimeki Sendenbu and others share the same release date after all
    33AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:27
    Just a studio live, huh…
    It'll be over in a flash
    35AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:30
    Wasn't Buzz Rhythm supposed to be launching a whole Hello! Project segment when Tsubaki appeared — the corner where a guest comes on and they talk it all out?
    Guess it ended up a one-off
    38AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:32
    Re: #35
    They only got that slot as a bundled tie-in with Juice=Juice anyway ["バーター" — industry slang for booking a lower-profile act alongside a more popular one as a package deal]
    37AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:32
    Re: #1
    No talk segment lolololol, treated worse than Tsubaki, I'm dying 🤣🤣🤣
    39fusianasanSep 3, 2026 18:33
    [poster name "fusianasan" is an old imageboard in-joke referencing an exposed IP address]
    They made it sound like this would become a recurring series when Tsubaki was on — is this that?
    42AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:34
    Come to think of it, "Lonely" hasn't even been released yet
    55AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:40
    Juice=Juice can land a prime-time music show with just two of their younger members
    Morning Musume can't even get a talk segment on a late-night show, even with the attention boost from Oda's graduation

    How did it come to this
    57AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:42
    I mean, even on Tsubaki's episode, host Matsuoka talked more than the members did
    Big contrast with Juice=Juice, whose members really stood out during the talk segment
    61AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:46
    She's a wildcard, but Tako-chan can definitely talk
    62AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:46
    If Maria were still around, there'd probably have been a talk segment
    64AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:48
    I wonder which celebrity could actually talk about today's Musume with real passion
    65AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:49
    You'd think during release week at least they'd get a late-night slot to perform the song
    66AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:51
    I only catch this show once a year, so I'm surprised it's still running

    Background and Talking Points

    “Buzz Rhythm 02” is a late-night music variety show on the NTV network, and in recent years various Hello! Project groups [the idol agency umbrella that includes Morning Musume, ANGERME, Juice=Juice, Tsubaki Factory, BEYOOOOONDS, OCHA NORMA, and ROSSO] have appeared on it from time to time. Looking at the appearance history cited in the thread, TV opportunities appear unevenly distributed across groups — with posters noting that ANGERME has never even appeared on a late-night show. Morning Musume。’26’s slot is expected to be a song performance only, with no talk segment, and posters compared it unfavorably to Tsubaki Factory’s earlier appearance, which was treated as the “main” booking complete with an open call for studio audience members — leading some to read this as a step down in status. As for the recurring disclaimer “Miki Nonaka will not be appearing,” it’s a stock phrase attached to these announcements repeatedly, not something unique to this occasion, and the thread offers no confirmed explanation for it — only speculation.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “[Breaking] Morning Musume。’26 Confirmed for Nippon TV’s “Buzz Rhythm 02” キタ━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━!!“

  • Gacha small talk derails into an Ohtani popularity debate — 5ch: ‘Isn’t it just that the media hype died down?’

    A thread for players of “Suikoden: Star Leap” on Newsspeed VIP was rolling along with emoji-faced posters trading gacha-pull reports and swapping talk about the weather whenever someone asked to see a photo. Then the thread starter suddenly asked, “Isn’t Ohtani’s popularity dropping lately?” — sending the conversation off the rails into a debate over baseball star Shohei Ohtani’s popularity. Opinions split over whether his popularity itself had actually declined, or whether it was simply that media coverage had cooled off.

    1AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:37
    (っ´ω`c) Did you pull the new gacha?
    2AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:38
    (´・ω・`) The Steam version isn't even out yet
    4AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:40
    Re: #2
    (っ´ω`c) Wanna go ahead and pull the new gacha?
    6AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:42
    (´・ω・`) I'm not even playing it, though?
    7AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:42
    Re: #6
    (っ´ω`c) Come on, let's pull the new gacha
    8AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:45
    Re: #7
    (´・ω・`) Did you pull, Pomii?
    10AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:47
    Re: #8
    (っ´ω`c) Yeah……
    9AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:46
    (´・ω・`) Did you spend this month's allowance on it?
    11AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:48
    Re: #9
    (っ´ω`c) Nope…… because I don't want to spend money on it anymore……
    12AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:48
    Re: #10
    (´・ω・`) Oh, so you got the character you wanted after all! Nice!
    13AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:50
    Re: #12
    (っ´ω`c) ……yeah
    17AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:03
    Marle was too cute so I went for 200 pulls
    23AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:04
    Re: #17
    (っ´ω`c) Seriously? So what was the result?
    26AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:04
    (´・ω・`) Want to see… a downpour? (gacha slang for a huge pull haul)
    27AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:05
    Re: #26
    (っ´ω`c) Just take a picture of the scenery outside and show me that
    29AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:05
    Re: #23
    Got Marle to 2 dupes, and managed to secure base copies of Humphrey and Miruihi too, so it worked out okay
    32AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:07
    Re: #29
    (っ´ω`c) ……congrats. Are you Takashi-kun?
    30AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:06
    (´・ω・`) Like this?
    33AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:08
    Re: #30
    (っ´ω`c) Nope, not that. The scenery outside, I said
    34AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:09
    (´・ω・`) Pomii's scheming to pinpoint my location from this (basically trying to dox me)
    35AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:10
    Re: #34
    (っ´ω`c) Can't be done, so don't worry. Just hide anything identifying and show me?
    36AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:10
    (´・ω・`) It's not coming down that hard right now
    37AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:11
    Re: #36
    (っ´ω`c) So it wasn't a downpour after all
    39AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:12
    (´・ω・`) Looks like the peak has passed
    41AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:13
    Re: #39
    (っ´ω`c) Good to hear. Natural disasters are scary, after all
    40AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:12
    (っ´ω`c) Isn't Ohtani's popularity with the public dropping lately? The media doesn't go on and on about 'Ohtani, Ohtani' as much anymore either, right?
    59AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:37
    Re: #40
    Ohtani always seemed like the type who'd rather not be fussed over, so honestly I think this is a good thing
    63AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:39
    Re: #40
    (ꐦ·᷅ὢ·᷄ꐦ) It's not that his popularity dropped — isn't it just that the over-the-top coverage died down?
    42AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:13
    (´・ω・`) It's less about popularity and more that he's just an easy way to fill a program slot, that's all
    43AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:15
    Re: #42
    (っ´ω`c) ……
    44AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:18
    (´・ω・`) It's the same as how it's always just weather and food segments
    46AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:20
    Re: #44
    (っ´ω`c) You think so? …Maybe you're right
    50AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:29
    (ꐦ·᷅ὢ·᷄ꐦ) I did pull, though?
    51AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:31
    Re: #50
    (っ´ω`c) So cut to the chase — what was the result?
    52AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:33
    Re: #51


    53AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:34
    (ꐦ·᷅ὢ·᷄ꐦ) Though I'm completely out of gems now
    54AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:35
    Re: #53
    (っ´ω`c) Not totally sure what you actually pulled, but congrats
    56AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:36
    Hey there~
    Props for not spending money on it
    62AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:39
    Re: #56
    (っ´ω`c) I don't want to spend money on it anymore. The reason is: I just don't want to
    57AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:37
    (ꐦ·᷅ὢ·᷄ꐦ) Though no SSR has shown up yet
    60AnonymousSep 3, 2026 15:39
    Re: #57
    (っ´ω`c) How many times did you pull?

    Background and Points of Debate

    No clear statistics or data back either side of this debate — it’s strictly an exchange of gut impressions among thread posters. Both the claim that “popularity has dropped” and the counter that “it’s just that coverage volume has calmed down” are purely impressionistic; no actual figures on media exposure or opinion polling appear anywhere in the thread. It’s also worth noting this was originally a casual chat thread for reporting gacha-pull luck, and the Ohtani topic was nothing more than a temporary detour from the main subject. As a read, it captures that distinctly 5ch atmosphere where game chatter and topical commentary on public figures blend together seamlessly.</analysis>

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    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Newsspeed VIP) thread 「(っ´ω`c) Anyone here playing Suikoden: Star Leap, come on in」.

  • McDonald’s Employee’s ‘Refused to Apologize’ Post Splits Opinion — 5ch: ‘Sincerity Isn’t Words, It’s Money’

    A customer whose McDonald’s order was missing an item posted on X (formerly Twitter) that, despite receiving the missing item, a refund, and even a free fries voucher from the store, there was still “no word of apology.” The post was reposted to 5ch and sparked a wave of discussion.

    On the thread, comments piled up like “Demanding an apology on top of the product and a refund sounds like customer harassment (kasu-hara)” and “Sincerity is shown through money, not words,” while others argued “A simple ‘I’m sorry’ should be a given.” The disagreement exposed a real divide over whether compensation and a verbal apology are the same thing. Plenty of posts also questioned whether the story was even true, noting it was spreading widely without any confirmation the employee actually said this.

    3AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:09
    Was there no apology even when they brought the burger over?
    4AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:09
    OP, did a McDonald's employee actually say what's in the thread title?
    5AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:09
    They mooched a free fries voucher out of them and still have the nerve to complain?
    7AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:10
    They brought it to you AND gave you a refund?
    Demanding an apology on top of that is basically customer harassment (kasu-hara) at this point.
    8AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:11
    "We'll bring it right over" — that IS the apology.
    What more do you need?
    10AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:11
    We don't even know if it's true yet, and just deciding McDonald's is the villain, making a thread title that trashes their image, and reposting someone's tweet without permission — that's not okay.
    12AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:11
    Just tell me straight — is this right or wrong?
    13AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:12
    They did apologize, technically.
    Is it just that getting the actual item handed to you doesn't let you flex on people online?
    15AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:12
    Just file a complaint with head office.
    Tweeting about it doesn't solve anything, you know?
    16AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:13
    Sorry, but I honestly can't follow what happened here.
    Is it just me?
    17AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:14
    They got the burger replaced, kept whining anyway, scored a refund AND a free voucher, and now they're thinking "I bet I can squeeze out a bit more" and going full moocher mode.
    18AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:14
    They got the product, the refund, AND a fries voucher, and they still have the nerve to say that?
    That's plenty of sincerity right there.
    19AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:14
    They already brought the missing item — so why is there also talk about a refund on the next visit?
    This person really can't write clearly.
    23AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:17
    Re: #19
    Probably went: "I couldn't eat it all together, it's cold now, I can't eat it — refund me!" and then "Okay, come back to the store and we'll sort out the refund," right?
    24AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:17
    Re: #19
    They probably turned down having it delivered and asked for a refund instead.
    I'd say that's plenty of sincerity already.
    20AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:15
    Honestly, a simple "I'm sorry" should be the bare minimum.
    21AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:15
    I don't need an apology.
    Just give me the burger.
    What's the point of begging for an apology?
    25AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:17
    If they brought the burger over, isn't that enough already?
    Asking for a refund on top of that — why not just say so on the first call? That's just greedy.
    27AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:18
    Did a McDonald's employee actually say what's in the thread title?
    28AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:18
    Years ago I bought a Tsukimi Burger (a seasonal "moon-viewing" burger with a fried egg) and got home to find there was no patty — just a fried-egg sandwich.
    I called and they brought me a replacement, with a normal apology too. I think I got a drink voucher as well.
    30AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:19
    Stuff blowing up on X should probably just stay on X, no?
    Same goes for people reposting it without permission — but chatting it up using someone else's unauthorized repost is shady too, honestly like a bunch of thieves.
    33AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:19
    Re: #30
    Eh, who cares, it's fine.
    34AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:21
    Re: #30
    But hey, we all love X anyway.
    31AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:19
    Can't tell from this post whether the missing item actually got delivered or not.
    Normally that alone would settle the whole thing.
    35AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:23
    This is just how McDonald's customers are.
    Nothing but poor folks spinning tall tales ("Kojiki" — slang borrowing Japan's oldest chronicle to mean a long-winded, self-serving story).
    39AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:26
    Not sure how it got to the refund stage, but they should've just brought the cash along when they delivered the item.
    47AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:31
    Re: #39
    Common pattern is: "While I was waiting my other food went cold, what are you gonna do about it?!" → "We're terribly sorry, we'll refund the whole order" → and then they just let the customer keep the canceled item too.
    I mean, it's not like they could resell it to another customer anyway.
    No proof, just guessing though.
    65AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:39
    Re: #14
    What even is "sincerity," anyway?
    70AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:41
    Re: #65
    That'd be the Great General, obviously.
    73AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:43
    Re: #65
    Sincerity isn't words — it's the amount of money.
    80AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:51
    Would someone who brought both the replacement item and a refund really hand it over with zero apology?
    If what they actually wanted was the employee handing it over while dogeza-ing (prostrating on the ground in apology) instead of just saying sorry, then sure, the post makes sense.
    84AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:53
    Re: #80
    They probably expected the entire staff to line up and bow in apology.
    90AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:57
    I've always thought takeout orders should just get checked on the spot for mistakes, but most places still don't do that. Just saying "okay, that's one of this, here's your drink" right there would avoid all this hassle.
    91AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:58
    Re: #90
    They packed it up neatly — digging back through it to double-check would just mess it up.

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    Some in the thread noted that at major chains like McDonald’s, part-timers handling the rush alone makes mis-packed or missing items more likely. This post originated from the customer’s own writing on X (formerly Twitter), which was then reposted to 5ch — whether the employee actually said “I have no obligation to apologize” can’t be confirmed from the text alone. Multiple replies pointed this out, and a fair number of posters were skeptical about condemning the store based on an unverified, single-source account reduced to a headline.

    The debate split over whether financial compensation — a replacement item, a refund, and a coupon — amounts to the same thing as a spoken apology. Those who saw the compensation as sufficient argued “sincerity is shown through money,” while those who still wanted an apology said “a simple sorry should be a given.” Both sides were arguing from guesswork without knowing the actual details of the exchange (whether it happened by phone or in person, or whether an apology was ever spoken) — worth keeping in mind given how shaky that premise is.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G board) thread “[Sad News] McDonald’s Employee: “It Was Someone Else’s Mistake, I Have No Obligation to Apologize” → Backlash Erupts.”

  • Palworld Card Bid Tops $10,000 — 5ch Users Smell a Fake

    A post by an overseas collector claiming a PSA10-graded gold “Kattiva” card from the Palworld TCG (Trading Card Game) had received a $10,350 bid went viral. The post declared that “a card only 34 days old just beat out Charizard, which carries 10 years of history,” but reactions on 5ch were largely skeptical. Users pointed out that the same card’s Japanese version was still sitting unsold on Mercari at 130,000 yen, and that the auction hadn’t actually closed at the time. Comments questioning the story followed, like “Nobody’s actually bought it” and “Isn’t that just a typo for $1,000?” Meanwhile, data suggesting Palworld’s own popularity is fading also drew attention, feeding a broader debate over the card’s price tag versus the game’s momentum.

    A card that’s only 34 days old just beat out Charizard, which carries 10 years of nostalgia.

    Rarity doesn’t need history. It just needs everyone to agree “this is the one.”

    Palworld’s Gold Kattiva card broke $10,000 just 34 days after the TCG’s release.

    Source: x.com / original post here

    5AnonymousSep 3, 2026 16:42
    Turns out someone's just listing it at that price — looks like nobody's actually buying it.
    24AnonymousSep 3, 2026 16:51
    Re: #5
    Same pattern as that wobbly 'Atashinchi' balance game (a Jenga-like toy used as slang for something shaky about to collapse)?
    43AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:01
    Re: #5
    Isn't this just one of those fat-finger order mistakes you sometimes see on the stock market?
    90AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:54
    Re: #5
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 🤣🌱 lololololol
    21AnonymousSep 3, 2026 16:50
    The Japanese version's still sitting at 130,000 yen on Mercari, though.
    27AnonymousSep 3, 2026 16:52
    Re: #21
    Is anyone actually buying it?
    26AnonymousSep 3, 2026 16:51
    If something really sells for $10,000, listing it for 130,000 yen on Mercari should sell instantly, right? (Note: it hasn't sold.)
    28AnonymousSep 3, 2026 16:52
    Re: #26
    Wait, this one hasn't sold either? lol
    30AnonymousSep 3, 2026 16:53
    Re: #26
    Stop it, that's basically 'the crime of stating an inconvenient fact' (a joking meme term).
    86AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:48
    Re: #26
    Different language market, though.
    31AnonymousSep 3, 2026 16:54
    That 🐷 guy's Palworld inferiority complex just won't quit, huh
    53AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:08
    Re: #31
    If anything, this article's the one flaunting a Pokémon complex — where'd Charizard even come from, lol
    41AnonymousSep 3, 2026 16:59
    It's already washed up, so just give up.

    Google Trends

    Steam concurrent players
    42AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:00
    Re: #41
    Guess it's back down to about the same level as before the 1.00 release, huh.
    63AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:13
    Re: #41
    There's a sudden spike around August 15 — did something happen then?
    49AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:03
    Looks like the 🐷 guy can't read the English in the original source.
    50AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:06
    Re: #49
    It literally says 'auction' right in Re: #1, so he probably doesn't even know what an auction is.
    51AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:07
    That's the whole point — it's PSA10. That alone can make it worth more than 10x a raw copy. Guess a pig wouldn't understand PSA grading, lol
    59AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:11
    The ID's been changing over and over — scalpers sneaking around in here, lolololol

    If you want to talk about a crazy market like this, take it to a TCG thread, not the console-war board (Geha)?
    On Geha, it's long been settled that stuff like this has zero value, lol
    64AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:13
    Re: #59
    Haha, the 🐷 guy's getting all worked up
    Is it bugging you that there are already 61 bids? lol
    79AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:40
    Here's the current state on eBay — the one that's actually getting bids is the ¥420,000 listing below.
    82AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:44
    🐷: Paaal, Paaal, Paaaal! 💢💢💢 (mocking cry of frustration)
    87AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:49
    Re: #82
    Saying that in a Palworld thread is just… painfully sad.
    83AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:45
    Nah, that's small potatoes — a rare Pokémon card sold for $16 million (about 2.5 billion yen).
    88AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:53
    Re: #83
    At card shops, stuff like Umbreon and Espeon actually goes for quite a bit too.
    91AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:57
    One PSA 10 copy briefly had a $10,350 bid placed on it. That said, at that point the auction hadn't ended or been settled yet.

    So the bidding's still ongoing, then?
    106AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:23
    Re: #91
    If it's 'temporary,' does that mean it can be withdrawn?
    93AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:02
    [Sad News] Palworld TCG launch day: a flop start at #17 on Amazon's bestseller ranking 😭
    https://krsw.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/ghard/1785394164/


    Threads tracking 'current rank: #whatever' used to pop up regularly after that one, but they stopped once it dropped off the charts entirely.
    94AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:04
    Re: #93
    On Amazon now you can only get it from scalpers — guess you were too slow, lol
    95AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:10
    Word is someone probably typo'd $1,000 and added an extra digit by mistake.
    Sounds like it'll get treated as a cancellation and fall through.
    98AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:13
    Re: #95
    There they go again with another dumb lie.
    Just look at the bid count, it's obviously real — there's 61 of them. Not too bright, are you.
    101AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:17
    Re: #95
    Re: #96
    Replying to your own 'lie' within a minute — that's a pretty transparent bit of sockpuppeting.
    105AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:19
    Just a little while ago everyone was making a huge fuss about how there's no way Palworld cards would sell, total flop 🤪
    Are the Geha trash losing again? 🙄
    Is there anything these old guys can actually win at? 👴
    108AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:25
    Re: #105
    Nothing's changed, it's still the same — there's no way this actually sells, you idiot, lol

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    The original source is a post on X by overseas TCG collector Jared K. Tartre, claiming that a PSA10-graded gold “Kattiva” card from the Palworld TCG had received a $10,350 bid. However, posters in the thread noted that “the auction hadn’t ended or been settled at that point,” so it’s worth remembering that a bid isn’t the same as a final sale price. In fact, the same card’s Japanese version is listed on Mercari for 130,000 yen and remains unsold, and other eBay listings haven’t drawn much bidding action either. On 5ch, some floated the theory that it was a data-entry error (“maybe they meant $1,000 and added a zero”), while others pushed back, citing a bid history of 61 entries — leaving the truth of the matter unresolved as the discussion went on. In the background is data suggesting the Palworld TCG has slid out of Amazon’s sales rankings after debuting at #17 right after launch, alongside Steam and Google Trends figures showing interest has dropped back to pre-launch levels — meaning the debate has partly turned into a muddled argument that conflates one card’s price tag with the game’s overall momentum.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry (Geha)) thread “Palworld card hits $10,000 in 34 days! Overseas expert says ‘It beat Charizard! Rarity doesn’t need history!’“.

  • Kura Sushi’s Non-Sale Freebies Allegedly Hit Mercari for Resale Before Handout Even Starts

    Kura Sushi’s not-for-sale promotional merchandise, given away based on how much a customer spends, was found listed on the flea-market app Mercari before distribution had even begun — sparking a stir on a 5channel livestream-commentary board. Opinion in the thread split: some suspected store staff of pocketing the freebies and reselling them on the side, while others figured customers or resellers who’d already secured the items were simply listing them early using the “no-stock listing” trick. While some flagged the Mercari terms-of-service violation itself as the real issue, others pointed out that pinning all the blame on Kura Sushi’s management would be unfair.

    1AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:37
    Distribution of the tea cups doesn't even start until tomorrow.
    So why's it already up on Mercari?
    2AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:37
    If they just checked stock at every store today, they'd find the culprit right away.
    5AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:38
    "We investigated (or, well, we're just saying we did) and found no wrongdoing."
    That's probably how this ends.
    6AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:38
    Once staff start reselling this stuff, that's the end of any workplace ethics.
    7AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:39
    Shipping's probably scheduled for tomorrow.
    This kind of thing happens all the time with popular items.
    31AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:45
    Re: #7
    Re: #17
    Wait, what do you mean? Like tomorrow they're gonna pig out, spam the "Bikkura-Pon" prize draws (Kura Sushi's plate-triggered capsule-toy game), complete the set, and then ship it out?
    39AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:47
    Re: #31
    Yep, they list it before they've even got it, planning to secure it later.
    Shady resellers pull this all the time.
    44AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:50
    Re: #31
    This one's not a gacha draw — spend a set amount and you're guaranteed to get it.
    8AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:39
    Might as well flood the head office with inquiries about it.
    12AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:39
    And it's a full "complete the set" item too?
    They're bound to get caught at this rate.
    14AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:40
    Honestly they should just make it "guaranteed once you spend ¥X" instead of a gacha format.
    With bad luck you could spend forever and never pull the figure.
    Though I'm sure Kura Sushi's definitely mixed up in this.
    16AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:40
    Kind of a rush imagining customers drawing from a lottery that's already had the winning tickets pulled out.
    17AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:40
    It's just a no-stock listing.
    18AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:40
    Honestly there's a real chance this isn't staff at all, just a no-stock listing, so we can't say for sure.
    19AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:40
    This is basically the same as a convenience store clerk pocketing the lottery prizes, right?
    20AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:41
    A part-timer who can make some pocket money off it probably wouldn't care even if they got fired for it.
    23AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:41
    Food service work is basically an exploitative "black" part-time job these days anyway, so honestly a perk like this seems fair enough.
    24AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:42
    Well, they really did it, lol.
    Not setting foot in there again.
    Not that I was going there for the freebies in the first place.
    29AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:44
    Kura Sushi's ad guy is Hamada? Say no more (a nod to the comedian's own history of controversy).
    30AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:44
    How desperate is this country that people go this far for five thousand yen?
    35AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:46
    Did they finish building a time machine already?
    45AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:50
    Re: #35
    Because the goal is dragging Japan's food culture back to prewar times.
    40AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:48
    Is this even a problem? They just secured it in advance, that's all.
    48AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:51
    Re: #40
    It's a Mercari terms-of-service violation, so that part is the problem.
    Blaming Kura Sushi for it doesn't add up.
    46AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:50
    They say there's no smoke without fire.
    Guess that explains why you can drop ¥10,000 and still not get a figure.
    47AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:50
    Re: #44
    Oh really? How much do you have to spend to complete the set?
    51AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:51
    Re: #47
    ¥3,000 gets you one.
    50AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:51
    They're even selling the non-sale ones.

    100AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:19
    Re: #50
    Lol, that's insane.
    60AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:53
    Re: #51
    So that's ¥12,000 for all four types.
    So the idea is: stuff yourself with ¥12,000 worth of sushi, then sell the figures for a few thousand yen and come out ahead?
    74AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:01
    Re: #60
    Even without turning a profit, a few college students going together and stuffing themselves cheap would be plenty satisfying.
    Though that's apparently not what happened here.
    68AnonymousSep 3, 2026 17:57
    Kappa Sushi is the only one you can trust anymore.
    Can't trust Sushiro or Kura Sushi at this point.
    72AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:00
    Re: #68
    You got summoned in another thread!
    79AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:02
    Isn't this just the usual move where resellers trade among themselves first to jack the price up?
    88AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:12
    Re: #79
    Honestly, we live in an age where playing it straight just makes you the sucker.
    Cheating or not, whoever moves first comes out ahead.
    105AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:22
    Isn't selling something that hasn't even been released — and presumably doesn't physically exist yet — supposed to get you banned?
    Though I doubt Mercari will actually do anything about it.
    106AnonymousSep 3, 2026 18:23
    Re: #105
    Honestly, they'd probably just freeze the account that reported it and call it "trolling."

    Background and points of discussion

    On Mercari, listing an item before actually having it in stock — then securing and shipping it only after a sale goes through — is called “no-stock listing” and violates the platform’s terms of service. Since this particular promotion guarantees the item once a customer spends a set amount, the culprit could just as easily be a customer or reseller who moved first, not necessarily a staff member skimming stock — and the thread itself never reached a consensus on “who’s actually responsible.” The thread also included replies mocking an image posted by someone claiming to be a “store manager,” but since that risked identifying a private individual, it has been left out of this article. This isn’t unique to Kura Sushi — pre-release or pre-distribution listings of limited-edition merchandise are a recurring problem, and it’s worth being careful not to conflate a company’s lax oversight with an individual’s violation of platform rules.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Sad News] Kura Sushi Is Done For.”