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  • Venezuela Coach Fumes Over Late VAR Reversal After Collapse: ‘They Showed Us No Respect’

    In an international friendly on the 28th, Japan’s national team faced Venezuela and won 2-1. Deep into second-half stoppage time, Venezuela looked to have been awarded a penalty, but after VAR rewound and reviewed three separate phases of play, a foul on Takefusa Kubo was confirmed instead, flipping the call to a penalty for Japan. Ayase Ueda converted it to seal a come-from-behind win. Venezuela’s manager Oswaldo Vizcarrondo voiced his displeasure with the call, saying “they lacked respect for us.” On 5ch, discussion centered on whether VAR’s rule of reviewing plays retroactively was justified, along with the players’ reactions.

    ◆International Friendly: Japan 2-1 Venezuela (28th, E-Peace Stadium)

    Venezuela manager Oswaldo Vizcarrondo, whose side lost 1-2 to Japan, vented his frustration over the late penalty decision: “I was extremely surprised. I thought the penalty was going to be ours. There’s nothing to be done about the officiating now. We’re not machines, so emotion plays a big part in this. As for the judgment itself, I think it lacked respect for us.”

    The match was tied 1-1 deep into second-half stoppage time when Japan defender Junnosuke Suzuki brought down a Venezuelan player inside the box, prompting Australian referee Danaskos to point to the spot. But after a VAR review, the call was overturned in favor of an earlier foul — Kubo had been knocked down inside Venezuela’s penalty area on the previous phase of play — and the penalty was awarded to Japan instead. Ayase Ueda converted it, sealing Japan’s win.

    Source: hochi.news / Read the original article here

    2AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:05
    Right before full time

    Deep in second-half stoppage time, was Venezuela about to snatch a go-ahead penalty?!
    ↓
    Referee triggers VAR
    ↓
    Checks Junnosuke Suzuki's foul on a Venezuelan player inside the box
    ↓
    Wait — there might've been offside on the play just before Venezuela's penalty
    ↓
    Wait, rewind even further — inside Venezuela's own box, Takefusa Kubo may have been fouled
    ↓
    Commentator: "VAR is checking three separate plays!"
    ↓
    Referee: "Peeep! Venezuela's penalty is OUT — Japan gets the penalty instead!"
    ↓
    Japan scores the last-gasp winning penalty
    ↓
    Venezuela's bench erupts.
    80AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:14
    Re: #2
    That's just normal — the rule is to rewind all the way back to the point where Venezuela gained possession.
    4AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:06
    I—I'll tell you exactly what just happened, as it is!

    "I thought I'd given Venezuela a penalty… and before I knew it, I'd been given one myself…"

    I—I know you have no idea what I'm talking about… I know…

    Even I… don't know what was done to me…

    I felt like my head was going to break. Hypnotism, super speed…

    it was nothing that flimsy.

    I caught a glimpse of something far more terrifying…
    (a riff on DIO's famous "Za Warudo" monologue from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure)
    5AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:06
    They probably just wanted a beer — throw 'em one as a consolation prize.
    6AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:06
    Re: #1
    Machine scoring, no subjective bias involved
    59AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:12
    Re: #6
    1st: Ueda
    2nd: Kubo
    3rd: Inazuma

    Nice one, Ueda! (△ = a net-slang mark of respect/props)
    73AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:13
    Re: #6
    Why's Ueda rated so high? He just took the penalty. Can't trust the machine scoring either.
    76AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:14
    Re: #6
    Tanimura gets a 6.5 without even touching the ball? lol
    13AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:07
    Kubo giving up on defending the right and Wataru Tanaka cleaning up the mess for him — that's exactly the "recent Kubo" vibe.
    35AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:09
    Re: #13
    Throwing a tantrum like that while the team's down a man — guess that habit's never going to change.
    15AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:07
    Maybe they didn't tip the ref enough? (joking that the officials needed a bribe)
    19AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:07
    Can't really argue — there's footage of him flat-out stomping on the guy.
    20AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:07
    In the end it was just a match about which foul the ref decided to pick lol
    21AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:07
    Is "respect" the trendy buzzword in soccer circles these days?
    22AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:07
    Junnosuke, don't react so honestly like that — you're clumsy enough as it is without showing it there too.
    23AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:07
    Of course he's angry — even the players aren't convinced by the call.
    28AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:08
    Re: #23
    Whether Venezuela is convinced or not has nothing to do with whether the ref's call is valid.
    33AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:09
    Re: #23
    You should go brush up on the rules.
    24AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:07
    Huh? Kubo had his foot stepped on, went down, and couldn't play on — so the penalty call was fair, it's entirely up to the ref's judgment.

    Re: #1
    Sore losers, how lame.
    25AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:08
    Before VAR, a blatant penalty like that would've just been waved off, and Kubo — the guy who got his foot stomped on — would've probably taken the blame instead. Really glad VAR exists now. Then again, it just shows how broken soccer was before VAR.
    26AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:08
    Post #798 | Name: C'mon Anonymous, let's protect this place [] | Posted: 2026/09/28 (Mon) 21:28:07.70 | ID:8RedxSua
    The last pass before Venezuela's penalty was offside.
    https://n.picvr.net/2609282126457160.jpg
    92AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:16
    Re: #26
    I'd get it if there was no penalty at all after this, but it happened right before, lol.
    39AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:10
    But he was flat-out stomping on the guy.
    VAR is the reason South America's in decline — dirty play doesn't fly anymore.
    48AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:11
    Re: #39
    Nah, Argentina made it really far in the tournament — though they did embarrass themselves with zero shots in the final.
    41AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:10
    Same old flawed sport as ever.
    45AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:10
    If Venezuela hadn't gotten their penalty, I don't think Kubo's foul would've even been reviewed. When you think about it that way, it's almost like Venezuela getting their own penalty is what backfired and handed Japan one. If they'd just stayed quiet, it would've ended 1-1.
    56AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:12
    Re: #45
    They can't review it until play stops, so the ref's call in that moment was reasonable.
    62AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:12
    Re: #45
    No, VAR can step in the moment play is dead. The real question is whether the foul on Kubo alone was enough to send it to an on-field review (OFR).
    47AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:11
    Play didn't stop right at Kubo's foul, so I get why the ref's catching heat, but the pass leading to Venezuela's penalty was offside anyway, so that penalty wasn't happening either way.
    86AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:15
    Re: #47
    At the moment of Kubo's foul, the ref had already called it as a foul. VAR just flags it as a possible foul for the ref to consider. The issue is that VAR can't intervene with the referee unless play has stopped — and on top of that, the rules don't allow an OFR here.
    55AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:12
    VAR isn't perfect — it still comes down to the judgment of the VAR official and the referee.
    75AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:14
    Re: #55
    Easy enough if you just wine and dine the refs (i.e., "hospitality" calls favoring the home side).
    70AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:13
    Still, I was kind of surprised how far back they rewound it.
    71AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:13
    Re: #70
    Sounds like Venezuela's play was blatantly offside.
    88AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:15
    Re: #70
    That's the exact same thing that caused a stir at the World Cup — VAR rewinds all the way back to where the passage of play started. Since it went from that lost ball all the way to the penalty call, every play in between was fair game for VAR.

    Background and Talking Points

    Internationally, VAR operates on the principle of reviewing play back to the point where possession last changed hands — and in this case, the review rewound to the moment Venezuela lost the ball, checking three separate phases of play before arriving at Japan’s penalty. On the thread, reactions split between posters surprised by this rewind mechanic (“why bring this up now?”) and others explaining that it’s the same procedure that caused controversy at the World Cup. It’s also worth noting that VAR only advises the referee — the final call always rests with the official on the pitch, a detail that’s easy to overlook when arguing about whether the decision was right. And Coach Vizcarrondo’s remark about “a lack of respect for us” was an emotional protest, not a specific claim that the rules were misapplied.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Express+) thread “[Soccer] Venezuela coach, beaten by Japan, erupts after penalty call flips from theirs to Japan’s: “They lacked respect for us”“

  • Sergio Echigo Blasts Japan’s Lineup Selection as ‘Stuck in a Rut’ — 5ch Split on the Take

    Japan’s national football team beat Venezuela 2-1 in an international friendly at Edion Peace Wing Hiroshima on September 28, notching a second straight win following their victory over Uruguay. In a column for Nikkan Sports, commentator Sergio Echigo (81) criticized the approach of fielding a lineup centered on reserves and young players in the first half before bringing on the World Cup regulars in the second, calling it “stuck in a rut” and closing with “it’s unthinkable.” On 5ch, opinion was split between those arguing the nature of a friendly should be taken into account, and those agreeing that this approach does nothing to build up the bench.

    <International Friendly: Japan 2-1 Venezuela> ◇September 28◇Edion Peace Wing Hiroshima

    Japan (FIFA ranking 17th), led by manager Hajime Moriyasu (58), who will stay on through next year’s Asian Cup, edged out Venezuela (ranked 47th). It was their second straight win, but Nikkan Sports commentator Sergio Echigo (81) pointed out a string of problems, closing with the word “unthinkable.”

    Japan’s matches have become remarkably stuck in a rut. In the first half they send out young, inexperienced players who fail to get anything going, then bring on the core World Cup squad in the second half. That was true of the Uruguay match the other day, and it was true of this Venezuela match too.

    Source: nikkansports.com / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:31
    If this is post #2, this week's workout gains are tripled (a classic 5ch lucky-number jinx post)
    5AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:33
    "Thanks for another moving Round-of-32 exit at the next tournament too"
    yeah, exactly
    15AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:35
    Re: #5
    Dentsu put this together, so that's basically the whole point, isn't it
    7AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:33
    Your comments are the ones stuck in a rut
    8AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:33
    This old man's forgotten it's just a friendly
    9AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:33
    "Stuck in a rut" — the go-to line when you can't think of anything else to say
    10AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:34
    Sergio, you could've gone even harsher
    11AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:35
    Meanwhile there's a country out there getting crushed even with Son Heung-min in the lineup (jab at South Korea, who lost 1-4 to Uruguay)
    17AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:35
    The guy who watches every national team match no matter how boring the friendly
    19AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:36
    Tactic: Junya Ito

    That's literally all they've got

    Going on years now….
    21AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:37
    Yeah, we know that already
    But these are matches you can't afford to write off if you want to land in Pot 1 for the next World Cup
    22AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:37
    Wait, did Venezuela play us at baseball too? (needling that Venezuela is a baseball powerhouse, not a soccer one)
    23AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:37
    This is basically charity-match level at this point
    26AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:37
    Sergio's got a point
    There's no sense chasing short-term results by leaning on a washed-up vet like Ito who has no future
    27AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:39
    China 0 – 3 New Zealand
    South Korea 1 – 4 Uruguay
    Japan 2 – 1 Venezuela
    29AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:40
    Fair point, but if they'd kept it youth-centered in the second half too, they'd have gotten steamrolled
    Lose ugly at home in front of the fans and the federation gets crucified for it
    The criticism is valid, but the manager just couldn't afford to lose
    Bandwagon fans can't stomach a loss anyway
    30AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:40
    You're the one who never evolves
    one-trick pony
    31AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:40
    It's just a friendly, what are you even on about?
    38AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:43
    Re: #31
    It's precisely because it's a friendly that they need to build up the squad
    There's no point unless they actually work young players into the starting eleven and test them
    33AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:42
    Old man Sergio's right
    Moriyasu hasn't learned a thing
    35AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:43
    Nothing changes unless they change Moriyasu
    36AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:43
    Japan's friendlies aren't just about scouting players — they're promotion for the national team, the sponsors, and soccer itself
    37AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:43
    Well, however good the play is in a domestic friendly, it doesn't really mean anything
    The number one purpose is putting on a show for the sponsors
    After that, it's about getting all the athletic-monster kids around the country watching so they aim to go pro in soccer instead of baseball or basketball

    There's no other point to it, and that's fine
    39AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:43
    Fielding a lineup that dumb is way too disrespectful to the fans who showed up in the rain on a weeknight
    40AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:44
    Once you've watched the Nations League, Japan's matches really do look like "just friendlies" by comparison
    42AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:45
    Even in a friendly, old man, you still have to win or it hits the FIFA ranking
    43AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:45
    Was there anything actually worth watching?
    How much longer with Moriyasu?
    45AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:46
    Re: #1
    The young players who underwhelmed in the first half got pulled to the bench,
    and I think there was a lot to take away from watching the veterans come on fired up in the second half
    47AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:46
    Criticizing without offering an alternative is the cheapest kind of cop-out lol
    Even among pundits, Harry always laid out exactly what should be done instead
    49AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:48
    Re: #1
    Kirin Cup broadcast schedule

    ・Thursday, October 1, 19:10~ 🇯🇵 Japan vs 🇪🇨 Ecuador (Yokohama International Stadium):
    Live nationwide on TBS, streaming on TVer

    ・Monday, October 5, 19:30~ 🇯🇵 Japan vs 🇵🇦 Panama or 🇳🇿 New Zealand (National Stadium):
    Live nationwide on TV Asahi, streaming on TVer, ABEMA, and DAZN
    51AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:50
    Sergio's stuck in a rut himself — nothing's changed with him either
    61AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:59
    Re: #38
    That's exactly why they tested them in the first half
    and everyone except the defenders and keeper failed the test
    Once the squad's back to 26 and the injured guys like Mitoma, Minamino, Machida, Tomiyasu, plus the U-age players currently away at the Asian Games, are all back, these guys are gone
    80AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:24
    Re: #61
    I'm saying put them into the actual starting lineup
    It's already been proven that Moriyasu's approach doesn't build team depth
    73AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:13
    This one's on point
    The rut is just way too real
    75AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:14
    Re: #73
    Seriously, exactly
    How much longer with Moriyasu? Isn't this a massive waste, since it just shrinks the time the next manager gets to work with?

    Background and key points of this discussion

    Sergio Echigo is a well-known, no-holds-barred columnist for Nikkan Sports, and this time his target was the lineup pattern manager Moriyasu has repeated friendly after friendly: fielding reserves and young players in the first half, then bringing on the World Cup regulars in the second. Friendlies are supposed to be a chance to test young and fringe players, but with FIFA rankings and next year’s Asian Cup on the line, results matter too, so opinion tends to split over whether development or winning should take priority. On the thread, one camp agreed that “if you don’t actually use young players as regulars, it doesn’t build depth,” while the other pushed back with “they’re forgetting what a friendly is for” and “it’s also a promotional event for sponsors and for growing the sport.” The national team is also set to face Ecuador and either Panama or New Zealand in the Kirin Cup this October, and whether this pattern of squad selection continues will be the thing to watch.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Sokuhou+) thread “[Sergio Echigo] Japan is stuck in a rut, nothing’s changed since the World Cup… They can sub all 11 players, so make it an event.”

  • “Is He Really 33?” Junya Ito Shines Against Venezuela — 5ch: “The Most Underrated Player in the World”

    On September 28, 2026, Japan’s national team took on Venezuela at Edion Peace Wing Hiroshima. The first half had its sluggish stretches, but 33-year-old Junya Ito stood out, setting up a goal from the flank. On 5ch, his performance sparked a thread that couldn’t settle on one verdict — surprise at a technical “evolution” that now extends even to his free kicks and passing accuracy, worry that no successor is in sight, and a sharper take that “the national team hasn’t actually progressed, it’s just leaning on a veteran.”

    Still evolving

    On September 28, 2026, Japan’s national team faced Venezuela at Edion Peace Wing Hiroshima. The starting lineup for the day was as follows.

    The formation was the familiar 3-4-2-1: Reo Bryan Kokubo in goal; the back three, from right to left, were Ayumu Seko, Go Watanabe, and Junnosuke Suzuki; the double pivot was Daichi Kamada and Koki Kumasaka. Shuto Nakano started at right wing-back and Yuki Soma at left wing-back, with Ryunosuke Sato and Shunsuke Saito as the two shadow strikers, and Keisuke Goto at center forward.

    Source: soccerdigestweb.com / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:20
    Kirin Cup broadcast schedule

    ・Thu, Oct 1, 19:10 — 🇯🇵 Japan vs 🇪🇨 Ecuador (Nissan Stadium, Yokohama):
    Live nationwide on TBS, streaming live on TVer

    ・Mon, Oct 5, 19:30 — 🇯🇵 Japan vs 🇵🇦 Panama or 🇳🇿 New Zealand (National Stadium):
    Live nationwide on TV Asahi, streaming live on TVer, ABEMA, and DAZN
    3AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:20
    Wasn't there news that the manager from that whole scandal got arrested?
    4AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:20
    Ito's the real superstar.
    Mitoma would be too, if he could just stay healthy.
    5AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:20
    Watched him blow past the defender on the left side at some ridiculous double speed. Wild.
    6AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:21
    Asian Games U21 broadcast schedule

    Semifinal
    Wed, 9/30, 19:30 — 🇯🇵 Japan vs Uzbekistan

    Final
    Sat, 10/3, 19:30 — 🇯🇵 Japan vs South Korea or China (if Japan wins the semifinal)

    https://img-footballchannel.com/wordpress/assets/2026/09/532982c2141fd30fe8e8f54bc2a96a10.jpg
    7AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:21
    Everyone knows Ito's amazing.
    What nobody knows is who replaces him.
    8AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:22
    Ito's evolved from an attacker into a dangerous passer too — he might still be useful in four years.
    9AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:22
    Both the Uruguay match and this one — this team can't do a thing without IJ (Ito Junya).
    11AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:22
    He's leveling up year after year.
    Still feels like he's climbing the mountain lol
    12AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:23
    A player I genuinely don't get why his career's just fizzling out in Belgium.
    13AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:23
    The most underrated player in the world.
    82AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:28
    Re: #13
    Wouldn't be surprised to see him at Arsenal or Inter.
    14AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:24
    This thread got started over an article calling him underrated, and now he's gone and picked up another assist.
    15AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:24
    His free kicks were flat-out good too. Why's he still improving at this age?
    16AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:24
    They always said speed-based players burn out fast, but he's got the technique to back it up now — he's still got plenty left in the tank.
    17AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:24
    Fast, can pick a pass, great vision too. If he were younger he'd have gone straight to a top club.
    18AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:24
    In the end it's all just leaning on the veteran. Zero progress.
    19AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:24
    He's probably the best striker of the ball on the whole national team too.
    20AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:24
    If it weren't for Ito, Moriyasu would've been fired five years ago.
    27AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:26
    Re: #20
    Moriyasu should be handing Ito a cut of his salary.
    36AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:28
    > Among them, Ito's play stood out — not only did he set up a goal from the right side…
    Did whoever wrote this even watch the match?
    He was clearly on the left side the whole time.
    45AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:31
    Re: #36
    He's on the senior national team on pure merit, with zero favoritism involved, and still doesn't get nearly the credit he deserves.
    51AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:36
    Why's he wasting away at some second-rate Belgian club?
    54AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:39
    Re: #51
    It's not a second-rate club, and from what I hear he's very much valued there.
    57AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:44
    Wasn't Ito cut from the Marinos youth academy? Textbook case of a coach with no eye for talent.
    70AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:05
    Re: #57
    Nobody can predict how a ninth-grader's career will turn out. If they could, big clubs wouldn't need to blow huge money on transfers.
    62AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:46
    What was he like back in his Reysol days?
    64AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:50
    Re: #62
    I support a rival club, but he was razor sharp. I still remember him blowing past Kashima's Shuto Yamamoto with a double touch.
    69AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:03
    Re: #62
    Back then my impression was "fast crossing machine." His ball control, passing, vision, and knack for breaking down tight spots have all gotten sharpened to another level after being tested overseas.
    67AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:59
    Re: #1
    Wait, there was a soccer match today?! I had the Asian Games on the whole time.
    72AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:09
    Re: #67
    Honestly today's match would've been fine to catch as highlights later. If I'd known the score already I'd have watched something else.
    75AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:14
    Is there really no one lined up to succeed Ito?
    78AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:24
    Re: #75
    There's Yokoyama, a dribbler, at the same club.
    79AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:24
    Re: #75
    Fast, great attacking instincts, good at both passing and crossing, and can score too…
    yeah, probably nobody like that.
    80AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:26
    Re: #75
    There just aren't many guys who are both fast and skilled. The fast ones are usually fast and nothing else.

    Background and Talking Points

    Junya Ito, a Kashiwa Reysol product, is now 33 and plays for a club in Belgium. In 2023, a scandal involving his manager made headlines and he briefly stepped away from the national team — a story the thread also referenced. What sparked this discussion is that, far from declining since that episode, he’s kept “evolving,” sharpening even his passing and free-kick accuracy — the kind of technical growth speed-reliant players are usually said to struggle to develop. The thread split between voices praising him as “still improving” and harsher takes arguing that “the national team is just leaning on a veteran and hasn’t actually progressed” — a distinction worth reading separately from the praise for Ito himself. Concerns about the lack of a successor also came up repeatedly, making this more of a structural talking point than just a one-off highlight.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Soccer] ‘Is he really 33?’ — The ‘fearsome attacker’ who brought life to a Japan team stuck in neutral in the first half.”

  • Nasukawa Tenshin: “I don’t think I’m the only one who thinks the decision was off”

    After the match, Nasukawa Tenshin reportedly spoke about the difficulty of scoring, saying “there’s so much I don’t understand” and “there are plenty of moments where I go, ‘huh?’” The bout, which he lost on points, appears to be his second career loss, and the fact that he scored a knockdown in round 7 yet still lost the decision became a hot topic on 5ch. The thread split between those who called the decision fair given the scoring rules for a round with a knockdown, and those who felt it was unacceptable to score a knockdown and still lose — with the discussion spreading into talk of future opponents and weight classes.

    Nasukawa Tenshin feels the difficulty of scoring firsthand: “There’s so much I don’t understand,” “I think there are plenty of moments where I go, ‘huh?’”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:29
    Should've just gone for the KO lol
    6AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:31
    Working the ref for sympathy only pays off in soccer
    7AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:32
    Two world title fights in and he still doesn't know how to work the scorecards?
    9AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:32
    They should just fight with no round limit until someone gets KO'd
    10AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:34
    Nah, he barely landed any clean hits
    11AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:35
    He lost every round except the one with the knockdown, so the decision seems fair to me.
    There was an adult-vs-child level gap in skill.
    13AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:36
    In boxing, a round with a knockdown is basically scored 10-8.
    Against that, he just wasn't racking up points elsewhere.
    14AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:37
    Scoring a knockdown and still losing just doesn't sit right
    18AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:43
    Honestly this is kind of pathetic lol
    He was hyped as a prodigy back in his kickboxing days, so he probably can't accept the reality that he's just an average boxer.
    19AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:45
    Almost every punch was easily handled
    If it weren't for that fluke knockdown, it would've been even more brutal.
    20AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:45


    21AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:46
    Why are you laughing?
    He's great at boxercise (i.e. not real boxing)
    22AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:47
    So this is just a business built on fooling his fanboys, huh
    He should just go do BREAKING DOWN instead (a Japanese fighting-entertainment show)
    23AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:48
    When Nasukawa scored the knockdown, he turned his back to throw up his arms in a victory pose instead of checking on Inoue's condition
    That meant nobody could confirm whether Inoue's younger brother was really hurt
    That's what cost him the fight
    In other words, he lost because of his own mistake
    24AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:49
    So he was bawling because he didn't like the decision?
    25AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:50
    Judges' scorecards
    26AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:51
    I'm no expert, but I started watching around round 8 or 9, and from there through round 12 Inoue looked ahead the whole way, so I think the decision was fair
    28AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:53
    Even at the end of round 7, when he scored the knockdown, he was already behind 2-1 on the cards
    29AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:53
    Inoue's younger brother isn't even that strong a champion
    And going 2-0 down against him means he'd have zero chance against the other bantamweight champs
    There's no division left for him
    30AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:53
    He barely landed any effective punches
    Can't blame people for thinking he's just looking for an excuse to quit boxing
    31AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:54
    He should just go do BREAKING DOWN
    Did watching Inoue Naoya make you want to try boxing?
    32AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:56
    Why switch to boxing when he doesn't even have punching power?
    He should've just stuck to being the big fish in the kickboxing pond
    33AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:57
    The guy who beat Nasukawa — the one he couldn't put away — stuck strictly to points-scoring boxing the whole way through
    44AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:09
    Against Inoue's points boxing, with Ohashi Gym judges involved, there's just no winning
    49AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:15
    Re: #44
    Ohashi Gym has no hand in this one, it's a Teiken Promotions card
    50AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:15
    WBA → Jesse "Bam" Rodriguez, one of the top pound-for-pound fighters and arguably the strongest boxer active today — basically unbeatable for him
    WBC → Inoue Takuma, but after two straight losses he won't get a title shot anytime soon
    IBF → Jose Salas Reyes, the unbeaten champ who picked up the belt Nakatani vacated
    WBO → Christian Jimenez, the champ who thrashed Yuki Takei — the one guy Nasukawa could actually beat — so also basically unbeatable for him
    Nasukawa can't beat any of them
    56AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:21
    Re: #50
    Honestly, if it's Bam, at least it'd be exciting just to see whether he gets crushed or not
    Amazon would probably put that fight on lol
    61AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:26
    Re: #50
    But Medina looked sluggish in his last fight, so maybe there's a chance
    60AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:25
    Decisions are brutal, huh — a flawed sport where making your punches look effective beats the guy who actually scored the knockdown
    64AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:30
    Re: #60
    lol a total amateur trying to talk boxing
    67AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:33
    I don't know much about this, but is it really okay to have 2 losses this early in his career?
    Was that fine for his promotion plans?
    70AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:35
    Re: #67
    For a normal fighter that'd be bad, but Tenshin draws big numbers, and Teiken has already hyped him up so hard they can't back out now
    68AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:33
    But in MMA you can just clinch and hug to rest, that's way easier lol
    71AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:35
    Re: #68
    Yesterday Takuma and Tenshin were both clinching to catch a breather too

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    Boxing scoring rules generally count a round with a clear knockdown as 10-8. What split the thread was which mattered more: the “fact of the knockdown” or the overall balance of the fight. If the claim in the thread is accurate — that he was already behind 2-1 by the end of round 7 — then his comeback after the knockdown simply wasn’t enough on the cards, which supports the argument that the scoring was procedurally fair. At the same time, the gut-level pushback that “scoring a knockdown and still losing doesn’t add up” remains strong, and that’s a tension that follows scored combat sports in general. Also worth noting: the thread lists the current champions of the WBA, WBC, IBF, and WBO as potential future opponents for a title run, but that’s just one poster’s own rundown — not an official ranking or designation.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Nasukawa Tenshin: “I don’t think I’m the only one who thinks the decision was strange. I bet a lot of you feel that way too”.”

  • Sotetsu Izumino Line Extension: Plan for Early Opening to Keio SFC Scrapped — 5ch: “Kuramino Station Is an Unstaffed Stop With Under 2,000 Riders a Day”

    Kanagawa Prefecture has effectively shelved its plan to build, as a standalone first-phase project, just the roughly 3km stretch of the Sotetsu Izumino Line from Shonandai to the area near Keio University’s Shonan Fujisawa Campus (SFC), and will instead reconsider the entire roughly 8km line all the way to its terminus at Kuramino. The reversal comes down to the difficulty of securing profitability, effectively sending back to square one a plan that had been laid out in the 2016 Council for Transport Policy report. On the 5ch thread, discussion centered less on the rail plan itself and more on side topics: the push to attract a new Tokaido Shinkansen station to the Kuramino area at the line’s endpoint, and debates over SFC’s reputation and its AO (admissions-office) entrance exam system.

    Kanagawa Prefecture has announced it will move forward studying the extension of the Sotetsu Izumino Line across the entire Shonandai–Kuramino section. Until now, the stretch from Shonandai to the area near Keio University’s Shonan Fujisawa Campus (SFC) had been designated the first-phase section, but since profitability could not be secured there, the study area is being expanded to cover the full line through to Kuramino.

    The Sotetsu Izumino Line extension plan calls for connecting the current terminus, Shonandai Station, to the Kuramino district of Samukawa Town — home to JR Sagami Line’s Kuramino Station — a distance of roughly 8km. It was also included in the 2016 Council for Transport Policy report.

    Kanagawa Prefecture had, until now, been studying the roughly 3km stretch to the area near Keio University’s SFC — where a certain level of ridership could be expected — as the first-phase section, with plans for a Station A near Akihadai Park in Fujisawa City and a Station B near SFC. The remaining roughly 5km on to the Kuramino district had been designated the second-phase section.

    Source: tabiris.com / original article here

    7AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:53
    Re: #1
    SFC students all commute by car, right?
    95AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:20
    Re: #7
    Sorry, driving was too much hassle for me — I just took a taxi from home every time.
    179AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:53
    Re: #7
    What's actually surprising is that the university provides parking for students at all.
    11AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:55
    Why has Keio turned into the cancer of Japan?
    128AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:43
    Re: #11
    The head of the government's Tax Commission — always going on about raising taxes — is nothing but Keio professors and alumni.
    19AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:10
    You don't hear SFC's name around as much as you used to.
    163AnonymousSep 28, 2026 19:14
    Re: #19
    Maybe it's because they just say "Keio" over and over to hide it? That gym-membership card fraud case recently was SFC too.
    186AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:05
    Re: #19
    Back when TRON creator Ken Sakamura was still an active professor there, I feel like SFC had a lot more name recognition.

    SFC = Ken Sakamura, that was pretty much the image.
    21AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:11
    Aren't they going to build a station for Ayase?
    84AnonymousSep 28, 2026 13:39
    Re: #21
    Lol, got a little chuckle out of that.
    101AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:48
    Re: #21
    I'm literally in Kita-Ayase right now, got a problem with that?
    23AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:17
    Isn't it risky to plan all this on the assumption SFC never relocates?
    It might be fine in 10 years, but who knows about 20 or 30 years out
    SFC itself is already 30-some years old
    Aoyama Gakuin's Atsugi campus disappeared too, and Chuo University's heading back to central Tokyo as well
    26AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:19
    Re: #23
    You really can't count on universities going forward.
    Basing city planning and infrastructure development on something like that is something they should absolutely avoid.
    88AnonymousSep 28, 2026 13:42
    Re: #26
    True.
    Super-low birthrates are pretty much locked in from here, no need to fuss over some relic from the bubble era like that.
    191AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:13
    Re: #26
    The Ministry of Finance's policy is to drastically cut bloated university enrollment quotas given the shrinking, aging population — phasing out "F-rank" (bottom-tier) schools and departments one after another that can't stay solvent without international students.
    They're also working to curb the university enrollment rate itself, to weed out students who barely study and narrow down who actually goes to college.

    Honestly, that's a surprisingly good policy coming from the Finance Ministry.
    35AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:28
    Re: #1
    > Efforts are underway in the Kuramino area to attract a new Tokaido Shinkansen station

    So we're getting yet another Kodama-only stop, huh.
    40AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:31
    Re: #35
    Originally there was supposed to be one more too — Minami-Biwako Station.
    105AnonymousSep 28, 2026 15:24
    Re: #35
    Given scheduling constraints, I have a feeling every train would end up stopping there, same as Shin-Yokohama.
    39AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:31
    Re: #1
    [2026 Latest] Where students admitted to both Waseda and Keio actually choose to enroll
    https://www.toshin.com/news_release/uploadFiles/NewsReleases/850bcbaf0ad489ece16e4f586e71afaf24a8d4cbc9c26d1b9c4be1fbda766baa20260925125643.pdf

    ○Waseda Poli-Sci/Econ 100 – 0 Keio Law●
    ○Waseda Poli-Sci/Econ 90.0 – 10.0 Keio Econ●
    ○Waseda Law 73.3 – 26.7 Keio Law●
    ○Waseda Commerce 83.3 – 16.7 Keio Commerce●
    ○Waseda Letters 60.0 – 40.0 Keio Letters●
    ○Waseda Culture/Media/Society 62.5 – 37.5 Keio Letters●
    ○Waseda Fundamental Sci & Eng 66.7 – 33.3 Keio Sci & Eng●
    ○Waseda Creative Sci & Eng 81.8 – 18.2 Keio Sci & Eng●
    ○Waseda Advanced Sci & Eng 71.4 – 28.6 Keio Sci & Eng●

    Waseda wins 9 — Keio wins 0

    Overall enrollment-choice rate among students admitted to both in matching fields
    Waseda 75.7% — Keio 24.3%
    97AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:25
    Re: #39
    Compare the med schools instead!
    42AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:34
    Wouldn't it make more sense to build the Shinkansen station at Kozashibuya Station?
    43AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:36
    Re: #42
    Looking at the map, yeah, but JR probably doesn't want to foot the bill.
    And it's pointless if the Nozomi doesn't stop there anyway.
    47AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:41
    Still no Hiratsuka extension?

    53AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:46
    Re: #47
    Apparently the Samukawa branch line still even exists.
    70AnonymousSep 28, 2026 13:04

    73AnonymousSep 28, 2026 13:13
    With something like the Shinkansen, the municipality would have to chip in public funds too, and there's no way Samukawa Town could manage that — that place is basically farmland.
    79AnonymousSep 28, 2026 13:33
    Re: #73
    Kanagawa Prefecture Tokaido Shinkansen New Station Promotion Association
    Members: Kanagawa Prefecture, Sagamihara City, Hiratsuka City, Fujisawa City, Chigasaki City, Atsugi City, Isehara City, Ebina City, Zama City, Ayase City, Samukawa Town, the Kanagawa Association of Mayors, the Kanagawa Association of Towns and Villages, the Kanagawa Federation of Chambers of Commerce and Industry, and the Kanagawa Federation of Societies of Commerce and Industry

    It's not just Samukawa Town pushing for this alone.
    102AnonymousSep 28, 2026 15:15
    Re: #79
    They probably haven't agreed on whether to build it on the east or west side of the Sagami River.
    110AnonymousSep 28, 2026 15:38
    Re: #102
    The location's already decided, including the scope of redevelopment.
    148AnonymousSep 28, 2026 18:23
    Re: #102
    Building it on the east side is settled. If they built it on the west, you wouldn't be able to walk to the Sagami Line's Kuramino Station.
    122AnonymousSep 28, 2026 16:36
    As someone from Kansai, this is an area in Kanagawa I have basically zero name recognition for.
    I have no idea where this even is.
    123AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:09
    Re: #122
    You might have at least heard of the New Year's visit (hatsumode) to Samukawa Shrine.
    133AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:55
    Re: #122
    Of course not.
    Kuramino Station is an unstaffed stop with under 2,000 boardings a day.
    It's got no name recognition even within Kanagawa.

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    The Sotetsu Izumino Line extension is a plan that was included in the 2016 Council for Transport Policy report. The prefecture had positioned the stretch up to near Keio SFC — where profitability seemed easier to secure — as the first phase, with the remaining section to Kuramino designated the second phase. This policy shift comes because officials judged that the first-phase section alone couldn’t be made to pay for itself on its own; it doesn’t mean the SFC extension has been scrapped outright, but rather that the plan is being reorganized to study the full roughly 8km to Kuramino as one unified project instead of splitting it into phases. This is the point readers most easily get wrong: the accurate framing isn’t “SFC extension canceled” but “first-phase construction called off.” In the thread, discussion centered less on the rail line’s own profitability and more on side topics — the push to attract a new Tokaido Shinkansen station to the Kuramino area at the extension’s endpoint, and debates over SFC’s reputation and its AO admissions system. The concrete figure that Kuramino Station sees under 2,000 boardings a day at an unstaffed station is also a useful reference point for gauging the scale of the extension plan.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “[Kanagawa] Sotetsu Izumino Line effectively scraps early opening to Keio SFC, to be reconsidered as full-line construction to Kuramino.”

  • New Fire Emblem Title “Banshi Senkō” Opens at 127K, Falls Short of Engage’s 144K First Week

    Fire Emblem: Banshi Senkō (万紫千紅, lit. “a riot of purples and reds”) opened its first week at 127,000 copies, falling short of both its immediate predecessor Engage’s 144,000 and Three Houses’ 143,000. Thread debate centered on how to weigh the roughly 2.2-million-unit gap in hardware install base between the Switch (at the time of Three Houses) and Switch 2 — one camp argued the game is “holding up well once you factor in the smaller install base,” while another countered that it’s not that the series is “finished,” but that it’s clearly on a downward slide. Many posters also brought up 3DS-era numbers like Awakening (262,000) and Fates (353,000) for comparison, once again highlighting the series’ long-term decline in opening-week sales.

    1AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:11
    Wait, huh?
    3AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:11
    It sold well considering the hardware install base is 2.2 million units smaller than it was during Three Houses

    Software units Hardware units
    143,130 8,593,033 Fire Emblem: Three Houses
    127,131 6,316,079 Fire Emblem: Banshi Senkō
    7AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:13
    Re: #3
    Don't try to compare it with Three Houses — that game had a slow-burn, steady-selling tail. You'll lose that argument
    11AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:13
    Re: #3
    Huh? That's not much of a gap at all
    So this really is a flop after all
    9AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:13
    Some stores were sold out, so maybe week two numbers actually climb higher
    18AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:16
    Re: #9
    If week two doesn't grow, can we agree Banshi Senkō is an even worse trash game than Engage?
    37AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:20
    Re: #9
    Some retail chains don't seem to have much stock left, so there's probably a fair amount of lost sales too
    14AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:14
    Re: #11
    If there's barely a difference, that's a success. What are you even saying?
    17AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:16
    Re: #14
    The install base is only 2 million units off from the Three Houses era, and on top of that this game has the name recognition of being a sequel to Three Houses — and this is what it does
    This isn't even on the FF8 track (a sequel that sells less but still does fine), it's a straight-up flop
    25AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:17
    Re: #17
    If there's a 2-million-unit gap and sales barely moved, that means it's actually selling well
    32AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:19
    Re: #17
    2 million is a massive gap lol
    You're really reaching just because you want to bash it
    27AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:18
    Re: #1
    Fire Emblem first-week sales
    262,399 Awakening
    353,201 Fates (released in Japan as "if")
    143,130 Three Houses
    144,558 Engage
    127,131 Banshi Senkō
    35AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:19
    Re: #27
    Engage > Three Houses > Banshi Senkō
    That's basically how it shakes out
    49AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:23
    Re: #27
    So it's a steady decline then
    38AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:20
    Install base doesn't matter for how an otaku game (a niche, fan-targeted title) opens
    52AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:25
    Re: #38
    Obviously it matters, come on
    Don't panic just because your made-up smear campaign isn't landing lol
    54AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:25
    Re: #38
    Nah, it definitely matters lol
    50AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:24
    It's a Switch 2 exclusive, so this is more than good enough
    You seriously think you can use this to troll people?
    53AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:25
    Re: #50
    FF16 was a PS5 exclusive and still got mocked even after selling 3 million
    59AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:26
    Re: #53
    Was FE ever really a title on the level of being compared to FF?
    67AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:31
    Re: #53
    Is FF even a brand where a comparison with FE makes sense?
    62AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:27
    Re: #60
    Even though the install base is already 6 million units?
    I'd get it if this were the very early days, but…
    68AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:32
    Re: #62
    You'd have to be out of your mind to call year two of a console with a planned 10-year lifespan "the very early days"
    71AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:34
    Re: #62
    Three Houses had the "katachike" pre-order bonus (some kind of bundled perk — exact details unclear) but Banshi Senkō doesn't
    That alone accounts for roughly double the effective price difference
    Three Houses also had a bigger install base
    So a drop of about 20,000 copies seems reasonable
    104AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:48
    Re: #62
    More importantly, what about Wolverine, which isn't selling despite having the install base to back it up…
    70AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:33
    Seriously, nothing sells on Switch 2, third-party or first-party…
    What does even sell on this console at this point…
    74AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:35
    Re: #70
    Wait, is the underperforming Wolverine even a first-party title?
    76AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:35
    Re: #59 Re: #64 Re: #67
    This is a conversation about exclusive-title sales
    You can look at FE as a series too, you know lol

    Fire Emblem first-week sales
    262,399 Awakening
    353,201 Fates (released in Japan as "if")
    143,130 Three Houses
    144,558 Engage
    127,131 Banshi Senkō
    85AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:38
    Re: #76
    A third-party's flagship title being put on the same level as a first-party's third-string title — just how far has third-party fallen
    102AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:47
    Re: #100
    I never imagined something worse than Engage would actually show up
    108AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:53
    Re: #102
    Banshi Senkō's user score is 8.9 versus Engage's 7.0, you know
    117AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:59
    Re: #108
    That's not reliable at all
    Engage is the more fun game to actually play

    People rating it high are just story/character otaku
    128AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:01
    Re: #117
    If you like Engage, I won't argue with that
    But having played it myself, I get why Engage ended up less well-received
    107AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:52
    In the SRPG genre, FE is the top brand in the world
    Not just top-tier — THE top
    109AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:54
    Re: #107
    Super Robot Wars sells more than that though
    118AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:59
    Re: #109
    The newest entry, Y, is only around 90K combined across PS and Switch
    122AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:00
    Re: #109
    Does Super Robot Wars even sell 100K anymore?
    121AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:00
    Mr. Distribution (a notorious regular poster) has been busy hopping IDs between the weekly sales thread, the FE thread, and the Trails thread lol
    123AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:01
    Re: #121
    He's going out of his way to visit every thread just to get mocked
    131AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:03
    Re: #121
    Palworld topping the pop-up store charts, the weekly sales numbers, Wolverine flopping, the Switch 2 version of Trails winning out — there's just too much stuff for that guy to lose his mind over

    Background and Key Points of Debate

    A metric that comes up often when discussing first-week sales is the comparison against hardware install base, and this time the starting point for discussion was the gap between Three Houses (at a Switch install base of 8.59 million) and the Switch 2 version of Banshi Senkō (an estimated install base of roughly 6 million). Looking at raw unit counts alone, sales dipped only slightly, from Three Houses’ 143,000 to Banshi Senkō’s 127,000, but once you factor in the roughly 2.2-million-unit gap in install base, opinion split between “proportionally, it’s holding up well” and “this is evidence the new hardware’s own growth is sluggish.” Looking at the series as a whole, first-week unit sales have been on a downward trend — from the 3DS era’s Awakening (262,000) and Fates (353,000) down to the Switch generation’s Engage (144,000) and Banshi Senkō (127,000) — but this overlaps with a broader trend of shrinking physical-copy launch sales across the console/handheld market as a whole, so it would be premature to chalk it up purely to FE losing steam on its own. As for the gap in user scores (Banshi Senkō at 8.9 vs. Engage at 7.0), review-site scores can skew depending on sample size and timing, so that should be read separately from the first-week sales comparison.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry (Geha)) thread “Fire Emblem First-Week Sales — Banshi Senkō 127K, Engage 144K“.

  • Hello! Project YouTuber Losing Interest in the Idol Group — 5ch Fumes: “They’d Sell Their Souls for Views”

    On “Morning Coffee,” the 5ch board dedicated to Hello! Project, speculation is spreading after posters noticed a certain Hello!-otaku YouTuber’s interest in Hello! Project content seems to be fading. Comments included sarcastic jabs like “At the end of the day, these guys would sell their souls for view counts,” along with pointed remarks suggesting he’s drifting toward topics that pull more views, like Juice=Juice (“Milk”), since “you can’t rack up views with Hello! Project.” Others countered that “Hello! Project’s been starved for content since forever,” pointing to the group’s own lack of video-worthy material as the real issue — leaving posters split on whether this is a YouTuber’s personal attitude problem or simply a symptom of Hello! Project’s thin content pipeline.

    1AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:39
    ↓
    ↓
    2AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:40
    Getting scolded by Katō Takashi again
    8AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:42
    Re: #2
    He's also said many times that he wants to talk about Juice=Juice for the views.
    And that he hates talking about Rosy because his viewer count tanks whenever he does.
    5AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:41
    At the end of the day, these guys would sell their souls for view counts.
    10AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:43
    Well yeah, you can't rack up views with Hello! Project.
    Why not just become a Juice=Juice ("Milk") fan already? Apparently they're pulling like 100k views.
    13AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:46
    He's not actually interested.
    He just picked it as one topic among many for content.
    14AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:46
    60AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:04
    Re: #14
    LOL, that hit a nerve.
    16AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:47
    He's realized Hello! Project just doesn't pay.
    18AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:47
    Slender, big-chested Hello! Project superfan eats McDonald's using shareholder perks
    https://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv351487638
    22AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:49
    Is this the guy? The one who's been posting those long copypasta walls of text lately?
    23AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:50
    Do Hello! Project fans actually unsubscribe from his channel when stuff like this happens?
    25AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:51
    Oh, this is the guy who got excited about the red panda ("lesser panda") getting hosed down with water.
    26AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:51
    The only true Hello! Project otaku YouTuber is Kunio.
    28AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:52
    RYOMUSIC turned out to be a disappointment.
    29AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:53
    RYOMUSIC used to praise Hello! Project's performances so much, and then ended up jumping ship to the Sakamichi groups (Nogizaka/Sakurazaka-style idols) anyway.
    31AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:54
    The only true diehard-otaku YouTuber is Kunio too.
    32AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:54
    There's nothing left to even talk about with Hello! Project these days.
    All anyone says is "it's going viral!" and that's it.
    33AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:54
    Each Hello! Project group barely has one newsworthy moment a year, if that.
    34AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:54
    Views are part of it, but honestly Hello! Project just doesn't have much content to work with.
    New songs come out like once a year, and these are live-focused idols — you can't really get why they're appealing unless you go see them in person.
    If you're just watching from home, there's seriously nothing to talk about.
    35AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:55
    And Kunio's reputation goes up yet again.
    44AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:58
    Re: #35
    Kunio's impressive in that he'll dig into literally anything, even with how little there is to talk about in Hello! Project these days.
    36AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:55
    OP and this whole thread are basically Akabanebashi Channel 12.
    38AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:56
    I thought Hello! Project had a decent amount of free content, like Hello! Station, but I guess not?
    50AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:59
    Re: #38
    Hello! Project's been starved for content since forever.
    The agency's clueless about social media and just puts out the same formulaic Hello! Station-type videos.
    39AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:57
    Even if there's free content, nobody's going to watch it if it's not actually worth watching.
    40AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:57
    If you're gonna lose interest in Hello! Project, don't even start streaming about it in the first place, you idiot!
    41AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:57
    A 23-year-old NEET who looks like she could be in Hello! Project eats dinner
    https://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv351487709

    A 23-year-old slender, big-chested type who looks like she could be in ℃-ute
    https://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv351486926
    48AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:59
    Won't the new "Moremi" fans watch it?
    52AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:00
    Even if you get hooked on Juice=Juice, it's shallow, so people get bored of it fast.
    53AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:00
    He's promoting you guys for free — you should be grateful.
    56AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:02
    Hmm, the view counts are quite different.
    That's just a natural move for a YouTuber to make.
    59AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:03
    He's just a regular person.
    Kunio, on the other hand, is not a regular person.
    65AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:06
    Re: #59
    No regular person uploads something like 12,000 videos, every single day, for five years straight, lol.
    74AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:09
    Re: #65
    How do you even find that much to talk about with Hello! Project, lol?
    75AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:10
    Kunio's knowledge base and analytical skills are on a completely different level.
    81AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:18
    Re: #75
    Yeah, Kunio really is an outlier among Hello! Project YouTubers.
    Most YouTubers' commentary is just "this part's so amazing~" and nothing more.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    This board, known as “Morning Coffee,” is a 5ch forum dedicated to Hello! Project, and the activities of YouTubers who cover Hello! Project (the roster of groups including Morning Musume。’26 and Juice=Juice) regularly become a topic there. Behind this thread lies a structural issue: compared with other talent agencies, Hello! Project has a lower frequency of new songs, live streams, and other exposure, making it hard for YouTubers to keep finding fresh material. Within the thread, two viewpoints run side by side: sarcasm aimed at YouTubers who’ve started prioritizing topics like Juice=Juice or Rosy that tend to pull more views, and the counter-argument that Hello! Project itself simply lacks content to begin with — posters are split on which is the real cause. It’s worth noting that no specific YouTuber is actually named in the thread, so this remains speculation and commentary on an anonymous board rather than confirmed fact. Several YouTuber names, including Kunio and RYOMUSIC, come up for comparison, but these too reflect individual posters’ subjective opinions.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “[Sad News] A Hello!-Otaku YouTuber Finally Loses Interest in Hello! Project…“

  • “6-Member Tsubaki” vs. “7-Member Rosy”: 5ch Points Out the Talent Gap Between Two Kobushi Reject Groups

    On a Hello! Project thread, a post comparing “6-Member Tsubaki” (later Tsubaki Factory) — formed from trainees who didn’t make the cut for Kobushi Factory — with the current “7-Member Rosy,” also formed from rejected trainees, went viral. While acknowledging that the industry has changed (fans can now attend handshake events with just one CD purchase), commenters pointed out that members like Yamagishi, Niinuma, and Kishimoto were already highly regarded back in their trainee days. Many argued that even though both were “leftover groups,” there was a clear difference in the members’ raw potential. Others noted that Kobushi itself later struggled too, with tour tickets eventually selling below face value, so it’s not simply a case of one group being better than the other.

    1AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:48
    Yamagishi: Praised for her figure since her trainee days
    Niinuma: Early favorite, pushed as a top candidate from the start
    Kishimoto: The skilled singer of the group
    2AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:48
    Sure, times have changed — you can get a handshake with just one CD now — but the members' potential was on a completely different level.
    3AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:50
    Isn't this exactly why Rosy is struggling?
    4AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:52
    Kobushi itself was already stacked with Hamaura and other sympathy-vote picks to begin with.
    10AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:57
    Re: #4
    Kobushi only looked decent because Nomura leveled up and they had a secret weapon in Reirei — Kobushi itself was the real leftovers group. Hello! Project fans openly called it the "bargain sale group" and figured the next group would be the real deal.
    5AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:53
    6-Tsuba's draw at shows was even worse than Rosy's.
    12AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:58
    Re: #5
    Right, 6-Member Tsubaki wasn't popular either, but the point is the members' potential was totally different.
    6AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:54
    At the 7-member stage they were still just trainees — Rosy didn't even have a name yet. Totally different from Tsubaki, which had already made its indie debut as official Hello! Project members.
    14AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:59
    Re: #6
    Their indie songs were quietly pretty good too.
    7AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:54
    With or without Uemura, it barely tips in Rosy's favor.
    16AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:59
    Re: #7
    Overall — center-appeal and all — Asakura Juju is on another level.
    9AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:57
    Kobushi has the skills, Tsubaki has the visuals.
    11AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:58
    If Kobushi counts as "leftovers," then Rosy would have to be industrial waste.
    19AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:03
    Re: #11
    By year two, Kobushi's regional tour tickets were selling below face value too, so it's hard to say either way.
    13AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:58
    Their member colors were just "light-such-and-such" — leftover shades from Kobushi's palette.
    15AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:59
    I got hooked on them when they opened for Country Girls' first tour.
    17AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:59
    Huh, so 6-Tsuba really wasn't popular.
    22AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:07
    Re: #17
    People said it reeked of "newbie," but it's still better than a trainee unit that never even got an indie debut.
    https://youtu.be/kBuNr17gKIU?si=YmIOOMzYZgyoKR2X
    23AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:10
    Niinuma being popular back in her trainee days is no joke — she was even more popular than Danbara.
    28AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:16
    Re: #23
    Well, I mean, Danbara though…
    24AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:11
    Tsubaki was Kobushi's leftovers, Ocha Norma was Beyooooonds' leftovers, and Rosy is Ocha Norma's leftovers.
    25AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:13
    The whole "indie debut first" tradition just stopped happening after Beyooooonds.
    27AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:15
    Though honestly, Juice=Juice — which has one Kobushi survivor in it — is the strongest of them all.
    30AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:17
    Let's not confuse "leftovers" with "held in reserve," okay?
    31AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:18
    Re: #10
    Really? I thought early on, Taguchi and Renashi seemed like they were expected to do well.
    32AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:19
    The main reason 6-Member Tsubaki never took off was that, for some reason, they were formed right in the middle of Kobushi's big promotional push.
    33AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:23
    The moment you factor in Juju-chan, Tsubaki is simply in a higher league.
    34AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:24
    Well, it was basically Kobushi as the main act and Tsubaki as the side act. Kobushi then self-destructed, and here we are.
    35AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:27
    Like, why release such a gloomy song for your indie debut? Their opening-act slot for ℃-ute was so painful I couldn't even watch.
    36AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:28
    Rosy just formed, so this is about what you'd expect. Tsubaki would be ranked below Rosy too if it weren't for "Ritokyame" (a member's nickname) joining.
    37AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:28
    Up until "Hatsukoi Sunrise," they were pretty hopeless — kind of like Rosy is now.
    38AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:30
    "Seishun Manmanka" and "Kedakaku" (song titles) were what got me into Tsubaki.
    39AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:30
    Tsubaki had real momentum back in the "Teion Yakedo" (Low-Temperature Burn) era. Even Gurasan (a well-known fan/blogger) was raving about them.
    47AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:46


    53AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:59
    You can tell how much effort the agency put in just by how they were treated post-debut — Tsubaki got nothing but great songs, while Rosy is drowning in duds.
    56AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:04
    Re: #53
    Though honestly, it was already bad news when their planned 2024 debut got quietly scrapped without explanation.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Hello! Project has repeatedly used the same method when forming new groups: gathering trainees who didn’t make the cut for an existing group’s lineup. Tsubaki Factory’s origins trace back to six trainees who missed out on Kobushi Factory, and the newly formed “7-Member Rosy” is said to have come about the same way. What split opinion on the thread was whether “missed the cut” can simply be equated with “lacking talent” — several posters pointed to cases where members’ reputations shot up years later, arguing that people who were simply held in reserve shouldn’t be lumped in with genuine leftovers. It’s not unusual for a group’s early reputation to diverge from how its members are judged years down the line — one former Kobushi member went on to become a core member of Juice=Juice — which shows just how hard it is to judge “potential” right after a group forms.

    ※This article was compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “‘6-Member Tsubaki,’ formed from Kobushi rejects, and ‘7-Member Rosy,’ also formed from rejects — the members’ potential was worlds apart.“

  • Fans campaign for Kotomi Suzuki, Yuna Aoki, and Nana Tamura to join ANGERME — 5ch: “Tamura’s all in”

    A thread appeared on 5ch’s Hello! Project board pleading for three trainees — Kotomi Suzuki, Yuna Aoki, and Nana Tamura — to be added to ANGERME as soon as possible. Replies were split over whether the three actually want ANGERME or have their eyes on a different group; some insisted Nana Tamura is “100% set on ANGERME,” while others speculated that Kotomi Suzuki and Yuna Aoki are actually aiming for Juice=Juice. The conversation then spiraled into predictions about when current members will graduate and what the group’s lineup might look like years from now.

    1AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:37
    Do that and ANGERME's back in business
    5AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:41
    Do these girls actually want to join ANGERME?
    38AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:13
    Re: #5
    Kotomi's motto is "ōbaitōri" (a proverb meaning each flower blooms in its own way, in its own time)
    6AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:42
    Isn't it more like they want Juice=Juice?
    8AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:43
    Re: #6
    No way
    Just not happening
    80AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:26
    Re: #6
    That's only Kotomi
    Tamura and Aoki are aiming for ANGERME
    7AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:42
    Nana Tamura is 100% set on ANGERME
    9AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:44
    Only the girls who truly, desperately want to join ANGERME should come to ANGERME.
    Dumping anyone else into it would just feel unfair to them.
    11AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:48
    Kotomi's spot in the next show is even shaky, isn't it?
    Being the oldest as a 9th-grader while constantly getting scolded and cut from songs has got to be rough.
    She and Saeki were already the only two stuck with zero unit songs and nothing but group numbers — and yesterday even those group numbers got trimmed by one compared to last time.
    She's clearly better suited to something outside Hello! Project.
    13AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:48
    Aoki's fine where she is.
    As for the red slot after Hashisako, that really should go to Suzuki or Tamura.
    14AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:49
    Shimoderiya wasn't nearly that bad.
    Isn't the closest comparison Kosuga from Sma 2nd Gen?
    15AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:51
    Even getting scolded, she'll probably just cry and never actually fix it.
    And Mitsubachi (Tsubaki Factory) had lately been taking the long view with rookies and avoiding cutting them too much, too.
    16AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:52
    Yoshida's already on the verge of promotion via the nksk award, and Hattori's got the Aichi-region slot open now — one of them's bound to get in.
    18AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:53
    Tamura's from Sendai, a dance-focused member, and likes blue — there was someone just like that in another group before, right?
    19AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:54
    Re: #18
    She's in the "lizard" slot (fan slang for a particular member type), 19th generation, right?
    20AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:55
    Kotomi Suzuki feels more like an Ocha Norma type — like Sakamoto-san and Suzuki-san.
    23AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:56
    Re: #19
    Panda should really go back to green.
    That whole switch reeks of favoritism and backroom dealing.
    If that kind of selfishness gets allowed, things will spiral out of control.
    24AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:58
    Re: #23
    Other way around —
    pink should be taken from Tameshita and handed to Momoha.
    49AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:19
    So-and-so: "If ANGERME breaks up, I could transfer to [group name]…"

    Whose voice did you hear that line in?
    52AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:19
    Re: #49
    That played in Tamenaga's voice in my head and now I want to commit murder
    51AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:19
    Yamamoto really is a "Hana" type.
    Sure, it overlaps with the other Hana, but who cares.
    64AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:22
    Re: #51
    Then how about "Byo"
    57AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:21
    Suzuki's situation turned out exactly like people feared.

    With looks and a figure like that, plus being good enough at competitive tennis to make a name for herself, she could've dialed tennis back to a hobby, gone the normal school route, and had an easy life.
    Why take the thorny path instead?
    70AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:23
    Re: #57
    No, going for idol is fine — with that face, sure.
    But why Hello! Project?
    She doesn't seem the least bit interested in singing or dancing.
    If anything, she probably hates it.
    61AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:22
    Yamamoto's getting a solid solo part even though it's her first showcase.
    Meanwhile Kotomi's only solo moment was in the rotating "Seinen no Shuchou" segment of Nippon no DNA, and she got totally upstaged by Sakata (who's got insane vocal power) — a literal elementary schooler.
    81AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:26
    Re: #61
    Yamamoto making the final round of auditions wasn't for nothing, and once Sakata's technique catches up to that vocal power, she's going to be something else.
    63AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:22
    ANGERME might bring in a mid-career addition around age 20 — someone who'd mesh well with Goto and Shimoderiya.
    68AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:23
    Re: #63
    Kunio: "Aiki Sugata is transferring in"
    95AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:29
    Once Ise and Kawana graduate, here's roughly what ANGERME might look like a few years down the line:

    Tamenaga – Leader
    Matsumoto – Sub-leader
    Hirayama
    Shimoderiya
    Goto
    Nagano
    Plus maybe three new high-school-age members
    104AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:30
    Re: #95
    Matsumoto will probably move on to something else once she's out of university too.
    And how long do Hirayama and Goto even plan to stick around?
    111AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:31
    Re: #104
    If Matsumoto, Hirayama, and Goto all bail too, the group collapses — so I'm assuming they stay put.
    113AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:33
    Re: #111
    Once Goto and Hirayama start burning out, there's no holding them back.
    Tamenaga alone seems like she'll stick around forever, though.
    119AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:35
    Re: #113
    Matsumoto's young but senior in tenure, so that's one thing — but if Goto and Hirayama graduate first, that's bad news.
    It was the same with Musume (Morning Musume) — a popular mid-tier member graduating early does serious damage to the group.
    121AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:37
    Re: #113
    Wouldn't it have been better to hold onto Hashisako, who didn't seem to be burning out?
    Though I guess they did get her to stay an extra six months.

    Background and talking points

    New member additions in Hello! Project only ever become official once management formally announces them, so it’s worth flagging that the thread’s talk of “who’s aiming for which group” is hearsay and speculation, not statements from the trainees themselves. Posts predicting when current members will graduate fall into the same category — unconfirmed guesswork with no official announcement behind it, not fact. One exchange was also left out of this piece: a back-and-forth where posters singled out specific members as unwanted (e.g. “Tamura only, nobody else needed”) and traded insults like “You’re the one who’s not needed, idiot” with anyone who pushed back. It just repeated the same claims and abuse while stoking fan-vs-fan conflict, so it added nothing worth including.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Hurry up and let Kotomi Suzuki, Yuna Aoki, and Nana Tamura join ANGERME!“.

  • “Dawngazer” Officially Confirmed for Xbox as 72-Hour Block Period Ends

    Dawngazer, the new title from the developers of Unicorn Overlord (slated for a 2028 release), was originally announced as a PS5 exclusive — but exactly 72 hours after that announcement, an Xbox Series X|S version was officially confirmed. On 5ch’s Hardware/Industry (“Geha”) board, discussion flared up around the suspiciously neat “72 hours” and the phrase “in response to many requests from our users” in the announcement, with posters split between thinking the Xbox version was planned all along and thinking the tiny dev team was simply able to change course quickly.

    In response to many requests from our users, after careful consideration we have decided to add Xbox Series X|S to the list of supported platforms for “Dawngazer.”

    Source: x.com / Original post here

    4AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:20
    They were screaming "hako-gaa, hako-gaa!" (mocking chant for Xbox fans loudly complaining about being snubbed) right up until this dropped, then scattered like startled spiders — cracked me up lol


    [PS5] New title "Dawngazer" from the developer of Unicorn Overlord, out in 2028! [Xbox Snub]
    https://krsw.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/ghard/1790305589/
    8AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:22
    Re: #4
    It's genuinely hilarious how they've gone completely silent about this since the announcement — way too inconvenient for them, huh.
    7AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:22
    Guess Sony ran out of money and can't afford to block sales anymore
    9AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:22
    It won't even sell, so why bother — idiots
    11AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:24
    Re: #9
    If it wasn't gonna sell they wouldn't bother releasing it there, would they, genius?
    18AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:27
    Re: #11
    Then show me proof something actually sold. What's ever sold on that crap-box, ever?
    10AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:24
    No way you add a whole platform in exactly 3 days flat — obviously this was decided from the start lol
    19AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:27
    Re: #10
    It's a company with only 5 staff. Normal logic doesn't apply here.
    68AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:03
    Re: #19
    A studio with only 5 staff, and they can make a whole new hardware decision in just 3 days?

    Wait… where's Kemuri?
    Didn't they say the staff were dying from overwork?
    Where's Kemuri now??
    12AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:25
    Xbox's done this exact move before too, like with the Persona games
    13AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:25
    Hope you enjoyed your 72 hours of feeling superior?
    14AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:26
    Oink oink oink oink, guess who's getting snubbed now! wwwwwwwwww (mocking "buhi" oink noise used for PS5/Sony fanboys)
    42AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:45
    Re: #14, Re: #39
    Honestly can't tell if these guys are joking or dead serious 😅
    15AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:26
    The whole point was that it wasn't coming to Xbox, you idiots. Now not a single PS5 owner is gonna bother buying it.
    17AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:27
    It wouldn't have mattered if they'd skipped it, but they went out of their way to release it anyway lol
    20AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:28
    "Many users"? Were there even that many of them?
    23AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:29
    Xbox owners are always said to have a tiny market share but a loud mouth — guess the devs actually caved to that
    29AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:32
    Lol they got played — it's probably just one guy making noise like he's a thousand people
    34AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:34
    Re: #29
    Well, they've gotta make up for the sales they're missing out on with PS5, so it can't be helped.
    33AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:34
    Sunsoft's stopped bringing their games to Xbox now, even though the last one was on it.

    We are pleased to announce that "SUNSOFT is Back! Retro Game Selection 2" will release on December 17, 2026.
    Available platforms: Nintendo Switch, PlayStation 5, and Steam.
    45AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:48
    Re: #33
    Don't need that one lol. I picked up part 1 on sale for about 150 yen and it was awful — no wonder even the publisher itself treats it like shovelware.
    49AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:51
    Switch is the one getting snubbed here lol. Getting treated worse than Xbox — is this thing actually even selling? 🤣
    56AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:55
    Re: #49
    It's reasonable not to release on the original Switch in 2028. Though maybe you mistakenly thought it wasn't coming to Switch 2.
    58AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:55
    Back in the day they could've kept this exclusive lol
    59AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:56
    Re: #58
    "Exclusive"? It's coming to Switch and Steam too, what are you even talking about?
    91AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:18
    Re: #59
    Back then they could've made it a PS exclusive outright. Now all they can manage is failing to block anyone else — at best just pettily harassing Xbox.

    That's basically where things stand.
    65AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:59
    It wasn't 72 hours, it was 76 hours — so it wasn't a contract, they genuinely just weren't planning to release it on Xbox at all.
    69AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:05
    Re: #65
    What is this guy even talking about
    66AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:00
    Can something like this really get decided in just 3 days?
    70AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:06
    Re: #66
    Anyone taking that statement at face value is way too naive. Obviously, if you think about it normally, it was decided from the start.
    67AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:01
    Re: #67
    Even if the developer had made the call within 3 days of the announcement, there's no way Microsoft's approval for the announcement comes through in just 3 days. It was decided from the start — they just blocked the Xbox announcement for exactly 72 hours.
    73AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:08
    Re: #73
    Looked it up, apparently approval takes about 48 hours from application.
    75AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:09
    Re: #73
    But that includes a weekend, doesn't it?
    76AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:10
    Re: #73
    Rather than splitting hairs like that —

    every unreasonable obstacle thrown at Xbox
    is all Sony's doing

    you get that, right?
    77AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:11
    Re: #74
    No, that's not even the point here lol
    84AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:13
    Re: #77
    No — if it were a contract, it'd land at exactly 72 hours, right? The fact that it didn't means there's no contract at all.
    87AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:15
    Re: #84
    No way something like this gets decided in just a few days lolol
    78AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:12
    Re: #75
    The 25th was a business day though

    Background and Discussion Points

    What the thread calls the “block period” typically refers to a “timed exclusivity” deal, in which the platform holder with the exclusive contract pays to keep announcements and releases on other platforms suppressed for a set window — so it’s hard to believe the decision genuinely flipped purely on user requests, as the announcement’s “in response to many requests from our users” phrasing implies. Thread opinion split over the fact that the developer is a tiny 5-person studio: some argued a small team could make decisions fast, others argued the opposite — that such a small team couldn’t possibly have had the bandwidth. The suspiciously round figure of exactly 72 hours fueled speculation that this was contractually determined from the very start. It’s also worth flagging that the case mentioned in comment 33 — Sunsoft skipping an Xbox release for its retro game collection — involves a completely different publisher and title, and reading it alongside this story as direct evidence would be misleading.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry “Geha”) thread “[PS5] “Dawngazer” Officially Gets Xbox Version as 72-Hour Block Period Ends!“