Author: Japan Reacts Editorial

  • Kazu Laser Weighs In on Falling Rice Prices and Fears of Farmers Quitting: “I Hope the Culture of Eating Rice Grows a Bit More”

    Comedian Kazu Laser commented on falling rice prices during the September 28 broadcast of “DayDay.” According to data released by the Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries on the 25th, the average price of 5kg of rice sold at roughly 1,000 stores nationwide during the week of September 14–20 was 2,934 yen, down 37 yen from the previous week. Touching on concerns about farmers quitting the business, Kazu Laser said, “I hope the culture of eating rice grows a bit more.” A 5channel thread reacting to the topic saw opinions split over what’s behind the price drop and what originally caused Japan’s move away from rice in the first place.

    Kazu Laser on falling rice prices, concerns about farmers quitting: “I hope the culture of eating rice grows a bit more”

    Kazu Laser (41), of the comedy duo “Maple Chogokin,” appeared on Nippon TV’s “DayDay.” (weekdays 9:00 AM) on the 28th and commented on the drop in rice prices.

    The Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries announced on the 25th that the average price of 5kg of rice sold at roughly 1,000 supermarkets nationwide from September 14–20 was 2,934 yen, down 37 yen from the previous week.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:47
    Re: #1
    Average storefront price trend for rice (5kg)
    https://price-transition.mdingon.com/

    Dojima rice futures chart
    https://www.odex.co.jp/ex_contents/market/chart_51.html
    4AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:47
    Honestly the best fix would just be to properly educate the dumb, petty consumers who believe rumors and go around screaming about it.
    5AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:49
    Totally wrong. It won't recover until the distrust is cleared up.
    The terrifying power of a grudge over food is common knowledge across every era and culture.
    91AnonymousSep 29, 2026 04:56
    Re: #5
    It's because you lack common knowledge that you get swept up by rumors in the first place.
    6AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:50
    The acreage-reduction policy — where you get a subsidy for converting paddies into regular fields — is still going strong.
    Production just keeps shrinking.
    7AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:51
    Come on, rice isn't even the staple food anymore, is it?
    Japan's staple food is wheat now.
    9AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:54
    Re: #7
    Rice consumption has been declining for ages, but flour consumption has been flat for about 50 years.
    8AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:53
    They'll probably just jack the price back up out of nowhere again anyway, right?
    11AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:55
    Plenty of people quit rice before any farmer ever quit farming. (a play on words: 離農 "leaving farming" vs. 離米 "leaving rice")
    12AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:55
    The reason Japanese people abandoned the culture of eating rice is JA (the farm co-op) and the rice farmers themselves.
    14AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:58
    Re: #12
    Always so quick to blame someone else.
    16AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:00
    Why not just sell it overseas?
    28AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:14
    Re: #16
    Last year and the year before, Japanese rice was actually cheaper to buy overseas.
    Even in countries where prices are higher than Japan's across the board, you could get Japanese rice for less than you could in Japan itself.
    18AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:04
    I've recently gotten hooked on trying out and comparing different brand-name rice.
    24AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:11
    Re: #18
    I get it. Once prices went up, the price gap between brands weirdly shrank, so I tried a bunch and eventually settled on one particular brand.
    25AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:13
    Re: #18
    Tried a bunch of varieties and ended up right back on Hitomebore.
    Guess your taste never really changes.
    27AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:14
    Re: #25
    So you fell in love at first sight with Hitomebore, huh (the name literally means "love at first sight"). That's true love.
    30AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:17
    Re: #27
    Though there was a time I cheated on it without a second thought.
    32AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:21
    Rice production is actually down a lot this year, you know.
    Just because he's a comedian doesn't mean he should get away with spouting nonsense like this — don't let idiots run their mouths.
    What's "surplus" is old rice that's been hidden away in warehouses.
    42AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:34
    Re: #32
    And yet the Ministry of Agriculture was saying distribution stockpiles had basically bottomed out too.
    34AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:23
    Rice these days is basically just a lifestyle preference at this point — same as ramen.
    If a ramen shop goes under from lack of customers, nobody feels sorry for it, right? And the government doesn't hand out subsidies for it either.
    It's the same with rice farmers.
    JA won't go under until the rice farmers go under first.
    So hurry up and close shop already, rice farmers.
    We've proven we can live without rice, so there's no demand for you either.
    Stop burning taxpayer money on a business that doesn't turn a profit.
    35AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:26
    Re: #34
    Rice isn't the only crop that exists, you know. Shockingly dumb take.
    36AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:27
    Japan's rice culture is fully protected regardless, since the Emperor personally grows rice every year.
    So rice farmers don't need to worry about any of this — feel free to go out of business in peace.
    52AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:42
    Apparently there were people who destroyed that culture in the first place.
    53AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:43
    Are there still people out there eating rice who haven't caught on? (using slang for "info-illiterate"/clueless)

    60AnonymousSep 29, 2026 03:27
    Re: #40
    This guy's a piece of work.
    He's the one who hated the acreage-reduction policy so much that he was literally calling for rice futures prices to be driven up just to get the policy scrapped.
    Search around using that link and it comes right up, lol.
    You can't trust a word this guy says.
    71AnonymousSep 29, 2026 03:56
    Re: #60

    Personally, I just hope rice and wheat supplies stay stable if it ever comes to war with Communist China, but if there's a naval blockade, a starve-them-out siege would be unavoidable.
    If wheat imports from overseas ever stopped, it'd be sheer panic.
    103AnonymousSep 29, 2026 05:26
    If the reality is that both farmers and ordinary citizens are just getting pushed around by middlemen, then I'll gladly give up eating rice.
    Pasta or udon will do just fine, I reckon. (said in a mock old-fashioned, samurai-ish tone)
    107AnonymousSep 29, 2026 05:36
    Re: #103
    Well, unless you've got growing kids in the house, stew with two slices of bread makes for a perfectly satisfying meal on its own.
    Even without cutting rice out entirely — say, udon with a couple of inarizushi on the side — I still think it'd be rough if per-person rice consumption dropped to something like 40kg a year.
    111AnonymousSep 29, 2026 05:42
    Jacking the price up last year is exactly what caused people to turn away from rice in the first place.
    115AnonymousSep 29, 2026 05:45
    Pasta actually has more fiber than brown rice.
    Cheap pasta especially has a lot, and it's not easy to digest.
    117AnonymousSep 29, 2026 05:48
    Re: #115
    I've heard bodybuilders eat pasta. Does the average person really need to do that though?
    116AnonymousSep 29, 2026 05:47
    Eating barley rice in prison apparently improved people's sugar metabolism and overall health!?
    https://www.hakubaku.co.jp/omugi-lab/library/metabolic_improvement/

    It's genuinely good for you too. People say prison barley rice smells because it's made with old rice, but the rice regular households eat doesn't smell like that at all.
    119AnonymousSep 29, 2026 05:49
    Re: #116
    Maybe it just suits the Japanese constitution well.
    120AnonymousSep 29, 2026 05:50
    Rice was cheap, so that's what people filled up on.
    If rice gets expensive, people will just eat something else.
    That's really all there is to it.
    121AnonymousSep 29, 2026 05:52
    Re: #120
    It's low in salt and fat too, so it's actually pretty healthy.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    It’s worth noting that the Ministry of Agriculture’s figures come from a survey of storefront prices at roughly 1,000 stores nationwide — a weekly average price — which is a separate metric from actual trends in rice production. In the thread, while some welcomed the price drop, others pointed out that the “rice exodus” that took hold during last year’s price spike may still be ongoing, and that acreage-reduction-style policies — which still pay subsidies for converting paddies into regular farmland — remain in effect, meaning the production base itself continues to shrink. That paints a picture where a simple price drop can’t automatically be read as a recovery in demand. Many posts also voiced distrust over how prices were set during the price hikes and how distribution stockpiles were explained, suggesting the real dividing line in opinion was less about price itself and more about differing levels of trust in agricultural policy and JA, the farmers’ co-op.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5channel (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Entertainment] Kazu Laser on falling rice prices, concerns about farmers quitting: “I hope the culture of eating rice grows a bit more”.”

  • “Living at Home = Dependent”? Is That Just Bias? “Kodo-oba” Women Speak Out, 5ch Reacts

    “Kodo-beya obasan” (“child’s-room auntie”), shortened to “kodo-oba,” is a mocking term for single women who still live with their parents — and it has drawn pushback on social media from the very women it targets, who say things like “I work and I’m financially independent” and “People mistake me for a NEET.” After a news article on the topic was picked up by 5ch’s News Express+ board, some posters said they split housework and share care of aging parents, while others argued “if you’re really independent, you should actually move out” or “in the cities, living at home is normal — there’s no reason to pay for your own place.” Opinions split over what really counts as independence, and posts recounting real caregiving experiences stood out as well.

    Have you heard of the term “kodo-oba,” which has caught on in recent years? It’s a mocking label for single women who keep living with their parents into adulthood instead of moving out on their own — short for “kodo-beya obasan” (“child’s-room auntie”). They’re often viewed through a biased lens as financially, domestically, and emotionally dependent on their parents. But it seems “kodo-oba” women have their own side of the story.

    What “Kodo-oba” Women Really Think

    On social media, many kodo-oba women have pushed back against the assumption that they’re financially dependent on their parents, with comments like “I just happen to live at home — I actually work and I’m financially independent” and “A lot of people mistake kodo-oba for unemployed NEETs.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:47
    Doing housework, providing caregiving — isn't that a special case, not the norm?
    7AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:50
    Re: #2
    Whether care is needed varies person to person, but once you hit 50 you really start to feel how precarious your aging parents' health is.
    6AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:49
    If you're going to call yourself independent, just move out of your parents' house already.
    10AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:52
    And then there's caring for a parent with dementia on top of it all.
    13AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:53
    Re: #10
    My parent had a physical disability, so I was a caregiver for years.
    15AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:54
    Honestly, people should just leave other people's living situations alone — it's none of their business. It's nothing but pointless one-upmanship.
    20AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:58
    Re: #15
    I think about this every time I see the “residual-value-loan Alphard” threads on the news board (people financing a Toyota Alphard minivan with a residual-value loan plan). It's none of anyone's business how someone buys or drives a car, or even if they mess it up financially — but watching people rip into them so desperately just reads as jealousy. Kind of dumb, honestly.
    26AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:59
    “Kodo-oba” is just the mirror version of “kodo-oji,” the term that actually spread first — so calling it “bias” is a bit rich.
    122AnonymousSep 29, 2026 04:27
    Re: #26
    Sounds like stealth marketing from real estate agents.
    33AnonymousSep 29, 2026 03:07
    Isn't the real source of the bias the assumption that doing a bit of housework lets you off the hook?
    34AnonymousSep 29, 2026 03:08
    Re: #33
    Makes no sense. That's all I've got.
    43AnonymousSep 29, 2026 03:14
    Terms like “kodo-oji” and “kodo-oba” come from the mindset of people from the countryside, where there's no decent university or job nearby and you're basically forced to leave home. In the cities, living with your parents is totally normal. Why would you waste money living alone? Being from the countryside doesn't make you the moral standard.
    49AnonymousSep 29, 2026 03:18
    Reposting

    Re: #43
    In the first place… there's no point picking fights over “how other people live.”
    Unless the goal is some mysterious one-upmanship
    #Plus this weird urge to “monitor other people”

    Honestly, people should just leave other people's business alone.
    57AnonymousSep 29, 2026 03:25
    If you've started using words like “kodo-oji” and “kodo-oba” so unconsciously that they slip out at work, that's a bit concerning.
    58AnonymousSep 29, 2026 03:26
    Re: #57
    Yeah, exactly.

    It's basically a litmus test for who's a little unhinged.
    60AnonymousSep 29, 2026 03:27
    The real problem is unemployed, shut-in (hikikomori) middle-aged and older women. Japan is full of households like that. It's one of the causes of the falling birthrate too.
    65AnonymousSep 29, 2026 03:32
    Re: #60
    Why are you so obsessed with other people? Why are you “monitoring” them?
    70AnonymousSep 29, 2026 03:34
    Re: #65
    Are you talking to a mirror?
    71AnonymousSep 29, 2026 03:34
    Re: #65
    Though some people become shut-ins (hikikomori) precisely because of others watching them like that.
    66AnonymousSep 29, 2026 03:32
    How much are you even paying toward living expenses? “I handle the cleaning, laundry, and cooking on my days off” lol. If you actually lived on your own you'd be doing all of that on weekdays too — you think that's some kind of free pass?
    69AnonymousSep 29, 2026 03:33
    Re: #66
    What's even the point of digging into this — other people's business, about other people?
    118AnonymousSep 29, 2026 04:25
    I've moved out now, but after years as a kodo-oba I'd saved up 100 million yen. Never told my parents — they still thank me for living nearby and give me monthly spending money.
    125AnonymousSep 29, 2026 04:31
    Re: #118
    Well, the real question is how you'll face dying alone after your parents pass — though that varies from person to person.
    162AnonymousSep 29, 2026 05:03
    In my experience, meals cooked by women still living with their parents aren't worth eating.
    165AnonymousSep 29, 2026 05:06
    Re: #162
    No kids.
    No little ones.
    No grandkids.

    Same goes for men and women alike.

    Same for grandparents too.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    “Kodo-oba” is said to be slang mirroring “kodo-oji” — the term for men who live with their parents — recast in the feminine, and several posters in the thread pointed out this origin. The debate splits into two main threads. The first is over the definition of “independence” itself: those affected argue that paying living expenses and sharing housework counts as financial independence, while critics counter that “true independence would mean actually moving out.” The second is regional: posters noted the premise differs between rural areas, where people are often forced to leave home for lack of local schools or jobs, and urban areas, where rent is a heavy burden and living with parents is the norm. Also, though not covered in the original article, several posters shared personal experiences of staying home specifically to care for aging parents — a perspective the source article missed, and one that marks the real dividing line between seeing the arrangement as mere reliance versus mutual support.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (News Express+) thread ““Living at Home = Dependence” Is Bias… The Real Feelings of “Kodo-beya Obasan”: On Social Media, “People Mistake Me for a NEET,” “I Split Housework With My Parents””.

  • Kura Sushi Tightens Oversight After Collab Prize Leak Scandal — 5ch: ‘So Stealing Pays Off?’

    On September 28, Kura Sushi announced that it had discovered misconduct by an employee during its “Chiikawa” collaboration campaign, which had been running since August. The company said it would cancel the campaign, pursue legal action, and overhaul its prize management and distribution systems entirely. The problem of prizes leaking onto flea-market apps like Mercari had already been flagged before this collaboration. On the thread, opinions clashed: some called for the offending employee’s name to be made public, others took a cooler view (“even if they publish it, employees will just close ranks and cover for each other”), and still others argued that “it’s Mercari, not Kura Sushi, that needs to fix this.”

    On September 28, Kura Sushi posted a notice on its official website titled “On Strengthening Management Systems During Collaboration Campaigns.”

    Regarding the “Chiikawa” collaboration campaign it had been running since August, Kura Sushi stated that “misconduct by an employee has come to light” and cancelled the campaign. The company said it would take strict legal action against those involved while carrying out a fundamental review of its internal management systems.

    According to the announcement, the company will thoroughly review the entire process for managing prizes during collaboration campaigns — including in-store management and operations as well as logistics and distribution — in order to build a strict system that prevents any improper handling going forward.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:03
    Honestly I'd rather watch an Osaka night-view channel on YouTube than watch "Peace-kun" from Omiya Park.
    4AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:04
    That's not the point — just ditch the gacha prize system.
    140AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:35
    Re: #4
    Yeah, exactly… using gacha to lure in customers is just asking for trouble. They should put that effort into beating other chains on taste instead.
    7AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:05
    Kura Sushi itself didn't really do anything wrong, though.
    11AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:06
    Re: #7
    They won't be forgiven unless they actually press charges against the employee who stole the stuff.
    8AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:05
    It's not "strengthening," you idiot.
    Hand out proper punishment first, then talk.
    144AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:38
    Customer-facing business is tough.
    Even if they publish something like "we imposed such-and-such penalty on the identified employee,"
    you just know people like Re: #8 will start arguing over whether it's too harsh or too light.
    33AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:14
    At the extreme, as long as you've got humans doing the managing, isn't any countermeasure pointless? Nobody can guarantee the people in charge of management aren't bad actors themselves.
    98AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:57
    Re: #33
    On Twitter there are apparently several part-timers claiming to be "store manager," so maybe just making sure the person in charge is an actual full-time employee would fix a lot of this?
    36AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:15
    Has the culprit been arrested?
    49AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:20
    Re: #36
    Wait, hasn't the employee responsible not even been identified yet?
    44AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:18
    Japan's full of weirdos lately.
    48AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:20
    Re: #44
    And the old days were so much better?
    52AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:21
    Handing out popular prizes like that through Bikkura-Pon (Kura Sushi's in-store gacha game) always carried this kind of risk.
    A clear file folder for 3,000 yen should be about the limit.
    90AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:47
    Re: #52
    Honestly some mystery toy with an original character that nobody even knows how to play with would be fine.
    57AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:24
    Something like "spend over ¥X on food and you can apply to buy the merch"
    would probably be the way to go.
    65AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:28
    Re: #57
    All I can picture is people ordering a ton, not eating any of it, and it all getting thrown away — and then that blowing up online all over again.
    84AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:42
    They were strict with customers, though.
    I recall a nuisance customer actually getting arrested 🤔
    87AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:45
    Re: #84
    That double standard is pretty unfair.
    It's a lot like trouble at schools.
    If a student commits a crime it's an instant arrest, but when a teacher's the offender it stops at some watered-down punishment.
    95AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:56
    So in this case, whoever steals wins?
    115AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:11
    Re: #95
    I bet this had been going on for ages.
    Depending on the collab, they probably made more off this than their actual paycheck.
    With no real punishment, theft-and-resale is only going to increase.
    Whoever does it wins.
    101AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:58
    It's Mercari that needs to fix things, not Kura Sushi.
    187AnonymousSep 29, 2026 03:05
    Re: #101
    Why's that, I wonder?
    102AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:59
    Re: #90
    Lol, "mystery toy."
    Used to see those as freebies all the time back in the day.
    108AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:04
    Re: #102
    Kids have such wild imaginations, they'll play with literally anything.
    137AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:31

    This blew up because of the Chiikawa collab,
    but it was already a mess before that —
    even sushi covers like these were being listed all over the stolen-goods marketplace known as Mercari.
    157AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:59
    If they'd just publish the employee's name for now, the rest of the staff would get scared
    and stop doing it.
    163AnonymousSep 29, 2026 00:24
    Re: #157
    I've seen the people doing this stuff up close —
    it just makes employees band together, which only makes it harder to catch.
    They'll do it again at the next collab too.
    164AnonymousSep 29, 2026 00:27
    Re: #157
    That only works on the assumption the other employees are decent people — this case shows that assumption no longer holds, which makes it extra troublesome.
    196AnonymousSep 29, 2026 05:02
    This isn't even a restaurant anymore at this point.
    197AnonymousSep 29, 2026 05:03
    Re: #196
    It's a business.
    Making money.

    Freedom.

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    The problem of prize reselling isn’t unique to this Chiikawa collaboration — it’s been flagged as a structural issue for some time at restaurant chains that run lottery- or gacha-style promotions. Since reselling on flea-market apps isn’t illegal in itself, companies’ countermeasures are largely limited to reviewing in-store management and distribution processes. Opinions on the thread split over where the real fix should come from: some called for deterrence through publishing the offending employee’s name, while others countered that “even if it’s published, it’ll just get covered up organizationally.” There was also disagreement over whether responsibility lies with Kura Sushi or with tighter regulation of the flea-market platforms where the resales happen. Note that this announcement only outlines a policy of strengthened management — it does not disclose specific disciplinary action against the employee involved or the scale of the damage.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Breaking News+) thread “Kura Sushi Strengthens Management of Collaboration Campaign Prizes.”

  • Excel’s New ‘Lists’ Feature Lets One Cell Hold Multiple Values — 5ch: ‘This DB Expert Is Losing It’

    On September 24, 2026, Microsoft released a preview of a new feature called “Lists” for Excel that lets a single cell hold multiple values. Data can be packed into one cell using comma separation, with dedicated functions like HAS, HASANY, and HASALL used to filter and evaluate the individual values — a change to the decades-old assumption that a cell holds just one value. The feature is rolling out to some Windows and Mac users. In a 5ch thread, posters well-versed in database design and spreadsheets expressed bewilderment, while others raised practical concerns about compatibility with existing macros and libraries, the division of labor with Access, and the generational gap within companies over who can actually make use of the new feature.

    Excel to change a principle that’s held for 40 years — new feature lets a single cell hold multiple values

    On September 24 (local time), Microsoft announced “Lists,” a new Excel feature that lets a single cell contain multiple pieces of data, each of which can be used for filtering and calculations.

    It’s rolling out as a preview to some Windows and Mac users.

    Source: itmedia.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:02
    As a DB expert, I'm losing my mind
    3AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:05
    Fix your bugs before adding new features
    4AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:17
    As a Level 1 certified spreadsheet specialist, I'm confused
    What happens to cell references now?
    5AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:17
    This is gonna cause absolute chaos lol
    6AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:21
    Feels like this'll create a divide between users who go all-in on the new feature and old-school veterans
    7AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:22
    Well, there goes Access, dead
    8AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:23
    Might be handy when working with matrices or sets.
    9AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:28
    So for strength calculations — instead of entering material strength values cell by cell like before, you could now put multiple material strength values into a single cell?
    10AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:31
    So basically you can put arrays or JSON into a cell now?
    Kind of like a MySQL field.
    11AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:33
    For us it's basically just an output destination at this point, so whatever.
    But existing libraries are mature and legacy, so they'll probably never support this — annoying if a client ever asks for it.
    12AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:52
    So a single cell can now do the job all on its own, huh
    13AnonymousSep 29, 2026 00:29
    Are older employees who can't get the hang of the new feature going to get mocked?
    14AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:15
    So it can be used like an array?
    Feels like it'd confuse anyone without some programming background.
    15AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:32
    If a client suddenly demands data shared in this format, our in-house systems are toast (lol)
    16AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:33
    If only Office would just die already, everyone could move to Linux… (lol)
    17AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:53
    Re: #1
    That's false
    Sounds like an amateur who doesn't know about "God Excel" (a nickname for elaborately over-engineered Excel sheets misused for things like diagrams or page layout)
    18AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:19
    WYSIWYG, huh… lol
    19AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:21
    Creating a list is simple: just type comma-separated values into a cell and press Ctrl+J. That shortcut instantly converts the text into an in-cell list. You can also select an entire range of cells containing comma-separated values and press Ctrl+J to convert them all at once. If you prefer working from the ribbon, there's also a button for it on the "Insert" tab.
    20AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:21
    Once a column contains lists, Excel starts behaving "smartly" toward new entries. If you type comma-separated values directly below an existing list cell and press Enter, Excel recognizes the pattern and converts it automatically — no need to press Ctrl+J.
    21AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:22
    Filtering by list items
    Once you create a column containing in-cell lists, the filter dropdown menu changes. Instead of showing the whole comma-separated string as a single entry, it displays each element of the list as an individual value. For example, if a cell contains "Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri", the filter dropdown will show five separate checkboxes.
    22AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:23
    This column has a "contains" filter applied, targeting items included in the in-cell list. As a result, any list that includes "Fri" will show up in the results. This is a simpler and more accurate approach than applying a "contains" filter to a cell that might hold a comma-separated string but hasn't actually been converted into list format.
    23AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:24
    At the top of the filter menu, a new "Select Field" dropdown appears. Here you can switch between "List Items" (individual values) and "Display Value" (the full comma-separated text). "List Items" is the default setting for columns using in-cell list format. You can also combine filters across multiple columns, making it easy to, say, find "baristas available on Saturdays."
    24AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:24
    The HAS function: checking whether a list contains a specific value
    Formula capabilities have also been significantly enhanced. The HAS function lets you check whether an in-cell list contains a specific value, returning TRUE or FALSE. It's ideal for conditional formatting, the FILTER function, or building helper columns to drive dashboard logic.

    Here's an overview of the HAS function. It checks whether a list or array contains a specific value and returns TRUE or FALSE. Its arguments look like this:
    =HAS([@[Available Days]],$I$4)
    26AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:26
    For anyone using the HASANY function for the first time: it returns TRUE if a list or array contains at least one of the specified values. Its arguments are as follows:
    =HASANY([@[Available Days]],$I$4:$I$5)
    27AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:28
    Before getting to the main topic, here's a quick rundown of the HASALL function. It returns TRUE if a list or array contains all of the specified values. The arguments are:
    array: the list or range to search
    values: the range, list, or array of values that must all be present in array
    =HASALL([@[Available Days]],$I$4:$I$5)
    28AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:29
    For anyone using the HASANY function for the first time: it returns TRUE if a list or array contains at least one of the specified values. Its arguments are as follows:
    array: the list or range to search
    values: a range, list, or array of values (TRUE is returned if even one matches)
    =HASANY([@[Available Days]],$I$4:$I$5)
    34AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:46
    This is only going to make things worse when people use Excel as a database — we'll see even more cases that don't even satisfy first normal form.
    Well, running Excel as a database is the real mistake to begin with, I guess.
    35AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:49
    Still, typing a bunch of values into one cell sounds like a hassle.
    Maybe you specify them from some other column?
    If so, they really should add a separate workspace page with icons for doing calculations, alongside the regular cell view.
    37AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:50
    If the cell's contents actually differ depending on who's looking at it, like some quantum cell, that's straight-up sci-fi at that point.
    38AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:51
    They should just merge it with MATLAB or Scilab.
    39AnonymousSep 29, 2026 02:57
    CSV inside Excel? lol
    40AnonymousSep 29, 2026 03:04
    This is soooo confusing.
    Looks like even I, still running Excel 2013, finally can't avoid upgrading because of this one.
    41AnonymousSep 29, 2026 03:16
    I wonder if this means you'll be able to directly import JSON files up to two levels deep?
    But it seems like it's going to cause a flood of macro bugs.
    Excel's market share basically depends on its legacy of existing macros, though.
    42AnonymousSep 29, 2026 03:17
    Quit messing with things nobody asked you to fix

    Background and key points of the discussion

    Spreadsheet software has followed the “one value per cell” principle ever since VisiCalc in 1979. The Lists feature breaks that assumption, letting a cell hold array-like data that can be evaluated and extracted using dedicated functions such as HAS, HASANY, and HASALL. In the thread, opinions split between those praising the convenience of handling JSON-like data directly, and those worried it would further encourage the already-common practice of using Excel as a pseudo-database, spreading usage that doesn’t even satisfy first normal form. For now, this is only a preview for some Windows and Mac users, and neither the article nor the thread specifies a timeline for full rollout or compatibility with existing macros, VBA, and external libraries. Some posters at companies that have long exchanged Excel files with business partners also worried about the cost of handling requests to share data in this new format.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Science News+) thread “[Software] Excel to change a 40-year-old principle — new feature lets a single cell hold multiple values.”

  • University of Tokyo Picks Yuko Fujigaki as First Female President, Overturning In-House Vote — 5ch: “What Was the Point of the Preference Poll?”

    According to the Nikkei, the University of Tokyo announced on September 28 that it had selected Professor Yuko Fujigaki as its 32nd president, succeeding outgoing president Teruo Fujii. Her six-year term begins in April 2027, making her the university’s first-ever female president. A 5ch thread drew attention to the fact that another candidate reportedly won the internal preference poll by nearly a 2-to-1 margin, only for that result to be overturned by the selection committee. Discussion centered on the fact that the preference poll is, by design, merely a “survey of intent” with no binding power, as well as comparisons to the academic backgrounds of past presidents.

    University of Tokyo Selects Yuko Fujigaki as President, First Woman to Hold the Post, Overturning In-House Vote – Nikkei

    September 28, 2026, 10:17 PM

    On the 28th, the University of Tokyo held a presidential selection committee meeting following the end of President Teruo Fujii’s term, and selected Professor Yuko Fujigaki as its 32nd president. Her term runs six years starting in April 2027. She is the first woman to serve as president at the University of Tokyo.

    Source: nikkei.com / Original article here

    15AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:58
    And this is supposed to teach democracy?
    20AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:59
    Re: #15
    If anything, this IS what democracy actually looks like.
    25AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:01
    A gap of over 500 votes, basically a 2-to-1 margin — isn't overturning that a bit much? At least tell us what their policy statements were.
    40AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:09
    There was a similar story at Okayama University or somewhere before, wasn't there. Is this just standard practice at national universities?
    49AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:15
    Re: #40
    National university corporations where women are prominent get more funding from MEXT (the education ministry), or so I hear. Don't know the details though.
    41AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:09
    Wasn't Chizuko Ueno the first woman [to hold a top post there]?
    70AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:25
    Re: #41
    What position did she actually hold again? Is "sōchō" different from "gakuchō" (both roughly translate to "university president")?
    78AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:32
    Re: #41
    She's not even a University of Tokyo alumna (OG) to begin with. It'd be shocking if Todai ever picked an outside president.

    If Todai, Kyoto U, Keio, or Waseda ever appointed an outsider as president, that would be huge news. At this tier of school, no matter how brilliant they are, a non-alumnus — let alone a foreign national — becoming president won't happen even in 100 years.
    87AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:41
    Fujigaki was chosen with the silent majority who didn't vote taken into account.
    93AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:45
    Re: #87
    Over 80% of eligible voters actually took part in the poll.
    98AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:47
    Overturning a near-2x vote margin? That's a bit much. Might be worth scrutinizing who exactly sits on the selection committee.
    101AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:49
    Re: #98
    Here's the member list:
    https://www.u-tokyo.ac.jp/ja/about/public-info/b02_06.html
    109AnonymousSep 29, 2026 00:02
    Seems like there's a lot of misunderstanding here — university executive selection isn't a direct election. The vote is only a "preference survey." The actual decision is made by a selection committee, which considers the survey results but isn't bound by them.
    Given that she placed 2nd in the poll, plus the fact that Todai hasn't been designated a "University for International Research Excellence," and needs to show it's serious about governance reform — including affirmative action — the committee probably made a holistic judgment call.
    120AnonymousSep 29, 2026 00:06
    Re: #109
    But this has never happened before, has it?
    133AnonymousSep 29, 2026 00:19
    Undergraduate faculties/departments of past presidents:
    Fujigaki — College of Arts and Sciences, Dept. of Basic Science
    Fujii — Faculty of Engineering, Dept. of Naval Architecture
    Gonokami — Faculty of Science, Dept. of Physics
    Hamada — Faculty of Law
    Komiyama — Faculty of Engineering, Dept. of Chemical Engineering
    Sasaki — Faculty of Law
    Hasumi — Faculty of Letters, Dept. of French Literature
    Yoshikawa — Faculty of Engineering, Dept. of Precision Engineering
    Arima — Faculty of Science, Dept. of Physics
    Mori — Faculty of Medicine
    Hirano — Faculty of Law
    Mukaibo — Faculty of Engineering, Dept. of Applied Chemistry
    Hayashi — Faculty of Letters, Dept. of Western History
    Kato — Faculty of Law
    184AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:24
    A bit more to add to Re: #133 — past presidents' undergraduate faculty/department and academic specialty as professors:
    Fujigaki — College of Arts and Sciences, Basic Science / Sociology of Science
    Fujii — Faculty of Engineering, Naval Architecture / Microfluidic Devices
    Gonokami — Faculty of Science, Physics / Quantum Electronics
    Hamada — Faculty of Law / Media Law, Information Law
    Komiyama — Faculty of Engineering, Chemical Engineering / Chemical Systems Engineering
    Sasaki — Faculty of Law / History of Western Political Thought
    Hasumi — Faculty of Letters, French Literature / French Literature & Contemporary French Thought
    Yoshikawa — Faculty of Engineering, Precision Engineering / Robotics
    Arima — Faculty of Science, Physics / Nuclear Physics
    Mori — Faculty of Medicine / Pathology
    Hirano — Faculty of Law / Criminal Procedure Law
    Mukaibo — Faculty of Engineering, Applied Chemistry / Electrochemistry
    Hayashi — Faculty of Letters, Western History / Modern German History
    Kato — Faculty of Law / Civil Law (Tort Theory)
    144AnonymousSep 29, 2026 00:31
    Graduated from Todai's College of Arts and Sciences = graduated from a trash-tier faculty!
    146AnonymousSep 29, 2026 00:34
    Re: #144
    What kind of logic is that? Just plain ignorance?
    155AnonymousSep 29, 2026 00:48
    Re: #144
    The College of Arts and Sciences is actually brutal to get through — at Todai you need strong grades there just to advance into your desired faculty (the famous "shingaku furiwake" track-placement system).
    165AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:01
    Overturning a near-2x vote margin — that's bound to raise questions about what the point of the preference poll even was.
    172AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:07
    Re: #165
    (hands you a) honey trap.
    194AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:32
    An authority on classical Japanese literature would still make more sense. "Arts and Sciences" has "science" in the name, but her field is basically sociology, right?
    204AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:40
    Re: #194
    Since the Todai student uprising [the late-1960s Zenkyoto protests], Todai presidents have actually tended NOT to be big-name authorities in classic, traditional fields. Re: #184
    They're probably not choosing based on academic specialty per se, but my impression is that Todai tends to pick somewhat unconventional, sharp-edged people as its leaders.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The University of Tokyo’s presidential selection works in two stages: first, faculty and staff cast a preference poll, then a selection committee that includes outside members makes the final call. As explained in comment 109, the preference poll is only a “survey of intent” with no legal binding force, so the size of the vote gap alone doesn’t settle whether the outcome was valid. The thread held two views side by side: skepticism toward selecting a candidate who placed second in the preference poll, and a reading that ties the decision to the university’s push for governance reform, including greater representation of women. On the “first woman” point, some commenters thought of Chizuko Ueno, but others noted she held a different post — “sōchō” rather than “gakuchō” — and wasn’t even a University of Tokyo graduate to begin with. It was also noted that past presidents mostly came from the Faculty of Law, Faculty of Engineering, or Faculty of Science, making Fujigaki’s background in the College of Arts and Sciences comparatively unusual.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “University of Tokyo Selects Yuko Fujigaki as President, First Woman, Overturning In-House Vote.”

  • Emergency Bear Shooting in Hachioji, a Tokyo First — 5ch Asks ‘Who’s Protecting the Bear’s Human Rights?’

    On the 28th in Hachioji, Tokyo, an adult Asian black bear was caught in a snare trap set by a private organization, and an emergency shooting was carried out with the approval of Mayor Kazuo Soyado. This marks the first time an emergency bear shooting has been carried out for an Asian black bear within Tokyo. Most of Hachioji’s area is covered by mountains and forest, and there are areas where villages and farmland lie just a short distance from the built-up parts of the city. Reactions on 5ch threads ranged widely, from glib jokes like “who’s going to protect the bear’s human rights?” to questions like “why didn’t they use some method other than shooting?” to geography riffs casting Hachioji and the neighboring Tachikawa/Kichijoji area as a “line of defense against bears.”

    Emergency shooting of Asian black bear in Hachioji, Tokyo, a first for the city — mayor approves to prevent harm to people – Sankei News

    2026/9/28 20:51

    Hachioji City in Tokyo announced on the 28th that an adult Asian black bear had been caught in a snare trap set by a private organization in the city’s Odzu-machi area, and that an emergency shooting was carried out based on the approval of Mayor Kazuo Soyado. This is the first time an emergency bear shooting has taken place within Tokyo.

    Source: sankei.com / Original article here

    5AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:12
    Who's going to protect the bear's human rights?
    107AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:49
    Re: #5
    Bears aren't human, so they don't have human rights.
    194AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:20
    Re: #5
    Asian black bears have 'bear rights,' but do they pay taxes?
    10AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:15
    Fresh Tokyo-grown bear meat (gibier)
    23AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:19
    Re: #10
    It's covered in fleas from head to toe, so butchering it's going to be a pain.
    52AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:28
    Re: #10
    To turn it into meat you need to stun/kill it with electricity first — I don't think Tokyo has the equipment for that, though it's really just a rig hooked up to a car battery.
    11AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:16
    It wasn't a man-eating bear, right?
    They just shot it dead right off the bat?
    Why'd they give up on every other option?
    Hachioji — noted.
    168AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:20
    Re: #11
    Why don't you go keep it at your house, then?
    Easy to talk big from somewhere safe.
    Think about how the locals feel.
    12AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:16
    Don't kill the bear.
    You're supposed to start with a drink and a chat, not a gun.
    26AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:20
    Re: #12
    Sure — drink while eating a whole roasted bear.
    17AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:17
    A bear showing up? What backwater is this, lol
    34AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:21
    Re: #17
    That's in one of Hachioji's so-called 'dying villages,' so honestly a bear isn't that surprising.
    The fact that they resorted to an emergency shooting probably means it got closer to houses than usual.
    Good to have a mayor you can actually count on.
    83AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:39
    Re: #17
    That's the capital of Yamanashi, not Tokyo!
    20AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:19
    But if you fire a gun in a city area, don't you get arrested?
    101AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:46
    Re: #20
    Hachioji barely has a 'city area' to speak of — if you don't shoot it here, that's the real problem.
    30AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:21
    So it's finally happened.
    Looks like the last line of defense at Tachikawa is about to be breached this year.
    39AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:23
    Re: #30
    Come to think of it, what ever happened with those large-animal droppings found in Akishima? What were they from in the end?
    70AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:35
    Re: #30
    DNA testing confirmed it was wild boar
    https://www.city.akishima.lg.jp/kurashi/seikatsu/1002560/1011936.html
    41AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:23
    Poor bear — you Minato-ward girls live close by, go protest already ("Minato-ku joshi": slang for the fashionable, image-conscious young women associated with Tokyo's upscale Minato Ward)
    55AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:28
    Re: #41
    From Minato it's about a 2-hour trip switching trains and buses — you call that close?
    50AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:28
    Tokyo Metropolis should mean just the 23 wards — the outlying cities don't count, so stop calling yourselves 'Tokyo.'
    66AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:34
    Re: #50
    Like I posted before, here's a photo from Kamionkata, which is technically still Hachioji City.

    Yeah, calling this 'Tokyo' is a stretch.


    59AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:30
    Re: #52
    Feels like Okutama might have something like that. Not sure, but don't they sell venison souvenirs out there?
    67AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:34
    Re: #59
    Bears thrash around so much that apparently you have to stun them into a near-death state with electricity before finishing them off.
    A single shot to the head with a hunting rifle is supposedly fine too, but they said it moves too much to land the shot.
    With deer, a few people can just hold it down instead.
    69AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:35
    Ricochets are scary in an urban area.
    They'd probably get their license and gun confiscated over it.
    Just let the SAT (Japan's special assault team) handle it.
    109AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:49
    Re: #69
    Bears have thick fat and thick bones, apparently, which makes them prone to causing ricochets.
    72AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:36
    What's the plan if a bear shows up in a busy Tokyo shopping district?
    89AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:40
    Re: #72
    That's when the government finally gets serious.
    77AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:37
    Just coexist with it.
    What are the animal welfare groups even doing?
    80AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:38
    Re: #77
    Why don't you go handle it yourself, then?
    Go try 'coexisting' with it and see how that works out.
    86AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:39
    Solar panels — bears in the way — money over nature —
    94AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:44
    Re: #86
    People who complain from the city or from other regions do it because it costs them nothing — it's someone else's problem.
    In the Tohoku prefectures, bears are already wandering around areas that, in Tokyo terms, would be like right next to Kasumigaseki (Japan's government district).
    108AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:49
    Are people actually going to call up the Tokyo Metropolitan Government to complain?
    111AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:51
    Re: #108
    The bear: 'Stop the projection-mapping shows on the Metropolitan Government Building! You bureaucrats only care about your cushy post-retirement jobs!' (a jab at 'amakudari,' retired officials landing lucrative posts)
    113AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:52
    Re: #108
    The Metropolitan Government could easily handle complaints like that with an automated voice system.
    112AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:52
    If Hachioji falls, where do we draw the next line of defense?
    124AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:57
    Re: #112
    The border between the 23 wards and the outlying cities — meaning Kichijoji and Nishi-Ogikubo.
    148AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:25
    Re: #112
    If it crosses the Tama River, the sparsely-housed area would be around the Kurumagaeshi housing complex in Fuchu.
    Or maybe just barely the riverbank in Chofu.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Emergency shooting is a relatively new mechanism added to the Wildlife Protection and Management Act in response to a string of bear-related injuries to people nationwide. Its defining feature is that it lets a municipal mayor authorize culling by gunfire even in areas close to residential districts. This marks the first confirmed use of the provision within Tokyo, meaning the system has now actually been put into practice in the mountainous parts of Hachioji. Opinions in the thread split mainly between those questioning whether options other than shooting could have been used, and those who felt securing the safety of local residents should come first. The back-and-forth over whether “Hachioji is really Tokyo, or is it Yamanashi” also points to a geographic reality easy for readers picturing Tokyo as just its 23 wards to overlook: most of Hachioji’s municipal area is covered by mountains and forest, with villages dotted just a short distance from the built-up areas. Practical topics such as butchering the bear and the risk of ricocheting bullets also came up, making this a thread that spread well beyond a simple back-and-forth of approval and disapproval.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5channel (Breaking News+) thread “Emergency shooting of Asian black bear in Hachioji, Tokyo, a first for the city — mayor approves to prevent harm to people.”

  • Median Savings for Singles in Their 50s: Just ¥1.2 Million — 5ch: ‘How Do You Work 30 Years and Only Have That?’

    According to the Japan Financial Literacy and Education Corporation’s (J-FLEC) “2025 Public Opinion Survey on Household Financial Behavior,” the median savings for people in their 50s shows a stark divide: just ¥1.2 million for single-person households versus ¥7 million for households with two or more people. On 5ch’s News Express+ (Newsplus) thread, reactions ranged from shock — “Why would a single person have no savings?” — to pointed remarks about the gap between averages and medians. Users also debated how NISA investment assets are counted and how single people’s spending habits factor in.

    (Excerpt)

    Savings for people in their 40s to 70s: “What’s the difference between the average and the median?”

    Let’s take a look at savings by age group, based on J-FLEC’s (Japan Financial Literacy and Education Corporation) “2025 Public Opinion Survey on Household Financial Behavior.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    5AnonymousSep 28, 2026 19:48
    Guess if you've got no money, you can't get married either.
    13AnonymousSep 28, 2026 19:50
    Re: #5
    A housemate isn't necessarily a wife or kids.
    6AnonymousSep 28, 2026 19:49
    5ch is crawling with 'oku-ri-bito' (people who've hit ¥100 million in assets) though lol
    16AnonymousSep 28, 2026 19:50
    Re: #6
    That's the difference between average and median for you.
    17AnonymousSep 28, 2026 19:50
    How do you work for almost 30 years and end up with only ¥1.2 million?
    90AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:05
    Re: #17
    Spent every day off at the pachinko parlor.
    24AnonymousSep 28, 2026 19:52
    Why would a single person have no assets? There's nothing to even spend money on.
    33AnonymousSep 28, 2026 19:54
    Re: #24
    Exactly because they're single — they can party without worrying about the future.
    111AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:08
    Re: #24
    I'm single too, but if you spend all your money having fun, no amount is ever enough.

    Personally, I don't want a broke old age because I blew it all, so I hold back on having fun to some degree and put that money into building assets instead.
    27AnonymousSep 28, 2026 19:53
    If you've been a 'kodo-oji' (an adult man still living with his parents into middle age) since your 20s, you can easily rack up tens of millions of yen.
    I got a late start, so at 29 I've only managed to save about ¥15 million.
    NISA is widespread now too, so I'm jealous of the guys who had a guaranteed win from the start.
    46AnonymousSep 28, 2026 19:56
    Re: #27
    So the answer is: if you're single, live with your parents as long as possible.

    Well, for people in rural areas, unless you're taking over the family business like farming, there just aren't many jobs to begin with, so that's tough too.
    In the end it all comes down to the 'parent gacha' (the luck of which parents you're born to)…
    83AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:04
    Re: #27
    No need to go crazy with investing either.
    At that age, if you run things well with high-dividend stocks or government bonds, hitting tens of millions by retirement is a breeze.
    Don't panic into momentum investing with leverage.
    81AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:03
    I'm from the Employment Ice Age generation myself (Japan's tough job-market cohort of the late '90s/early 2000s), on a thin take-home pay of around ¥200,000 a month, no kids (though I do have a wife), but honestly, my parents' inheritance is close to ¥100 million, so I'm not worried about retirement.

    Even among the same Ice Age generation, though, people whose parents aren't well-off definitely have something to worry about.
    85AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:05
    Re: #81
    Won't inheritance tax eat up a huge chunk of that?
    92AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:05
    Re: #81
    Better start doing full inheritance tax planning now.
    147AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:15
    Re: #81
    I'm 48, single, also Ice Age generation.
    No inheritance from my parents either, but I got lucky and landed a stable job, so I've been able to save on my own.
    Right now I've got about ¥39 million, and I expect to reach ¥200-300 million by retirement, so honestly I don't worry much about money in old age.
    129AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:11
    Most people have around ¥10 million in NISA accounts, don't they? Savings figures like this are meaningless.
    140AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:13
    Re: #129
    Interest rates are only going to keep rising from here, so it's not like savings amounts don't matter.
    Individual growth stocks in NISA might actually be the most pointless choice lol
    143AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:14
    Re: #140
    I wouldn't touch individual stocks.
    175AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:20
    Re: #140
    I'm putting in an order for 'Orukan' (a nickname for the popular All-Country index fund) high-dividend tomorrow.
    139AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:13
    Even a 'loser' on a ¥3 million annual salary can save ¥1 million a year living at home, or ¥500,000 living alone.
    But rather than seriously saving like that, the smartest move is to party hard and just go on welfare in old age.
    152AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:16
    Re: #139
    With the Ice Age generation about to flood in, I think welfare eligibility is only going to get stricter from here.
    155AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:17
    Re: #139
    I don't know if you're serious or joking, but for just ¥60,000-70,000 a month plus a cramped rental and medical costs? Apparently you're basically required to have zero assets to qualify.
    164AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:18
    Unemployed, single, no friends, own a moped, 45 years old, still got my hair.
    ¥11.5 million in an online brokerage account, ¥4 million in bank savings.
    There can't be many people more washed-up than me (*´Д`)
    172AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:19
    Re: #164
    I'd guess most people in this thread actually have less than you.
    178AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:20
    Re: #164
    All I've got is negative net worth.
    215AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:28
    Re: #164
    I'm in a similar boat, but honestly, past 40, even if you had friends, would a trip with a bunch of middle-aged guys actually be fun? I have my doubts.
    Everyone around you is families and couples, and hanging out loud with other middle-aged guys just left me feeling hollow.
    Bouncing between temp jobs like me, living off unemployment insurance, and reluctantly going back to work once the money runs out — repeating that cycle, ¥1.2 million actually feels like a scarily realistic number lol
    189AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:22
    There's welfare, so having ¥1 million saved up is plenty.
    201AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:24
    Re: #189
    If you're planning to go on welfare, it's actually smoother if you have no savings at all.
    With not much time left before old age, that might be the play.
    202AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:24
    Re: #189
    Counting on welfare going forward is going to land you in hell.
    204AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:25
    Re: #189
    Your neighbors will find out you're on welfare, you know.
    Once a month a car with '[City Name] Welfare Division' written on it shows up lol
    206AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:26
    If you're doing what you truly want and your life feels fulfilling, then not having money doesn't matter at all.

    Or rather, I just can't understand the idea that having money makes you feel secure.

    Once things run out, you end up saying money isn't necessary at all.
    That's why things like fine kimono fabric got bartered for food — that was just normal right after the war ended, right after Japan's defeat.

    So money doesn't guarantee anything.
    222AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:29
    Re: #206
    Sure, there's no guarantee, but with only ¥1.2 million, you never know what trouble life might throw at you. When money worries pile up too, that's genuinely rough on your mental health.
    228AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:31
    Re: #206
    A famous Chaplin quote.

    'What we need is courage, imagination… and a little bit of money (some money).'

    Even if it's just a little, you still need money after all.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    This figure comes from the annual “Public Opinion Survey on Household Financial Behavior” conducted by the Japan Financial Literacy and Education Corporation (J-FLEC), and the key point is that it tallies single-person households separately from households with two or more people. Where opinions in the thread diverged was mainly over how to interpret the average versus the median. A wealthy minority tends to pull the average upward, while the median stays closer to the reality of a typical household. The reason the median is low for single-person households is that they rely on a single income source, whereas households with two or more people tend to see the number inflated by dual incomes and combined assets. It’s also worth noting that what counts as “savings” varies by survey, and the median can shift depending on the type of deposit and the age breakdown, so comparing living standards across generations or household types on face value alone should be done with caution.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “Median Savings for People in Their 50s: ¥1.2 Million for Singles, ¥7 Million for Two-or-More-Person Households — Comparing Savings by “Household Type” for Ages 40 to 70.”

  • Masashi Tashiro Tests Negative for Drugs 21st Time in a Row: ‘They Say Quit Now, But It Takes Time’

    On September 28, former TV personality Masashi Tashiro (69) opened up about his ongoing battle with drug dependency on his YouTube channel. Accompanied by staff from the NPO APARI, he underwent his 21st periodic drug test and reported a negative result. His remark — “They tell me to just quit right away, but it takes time” — sparked a debate on 5ch’s Entertainment/Sports News+ board over whether addiction is an illness or a form of self-indulgence. The names of other celebrities with past drug troubles, including Kazuhiro Kiyohara, Ryotaro Shimizu, and ASKA, also came up, with commenters split between skepticism about relapse and sympathy for those who keep speaking openly as former addicts.

    Masashi Tashiro opens up about his fight against drug addiction: “They say ‘just quit already’… but it takes time”

    Former TV personality Masashi Tashiro (69) updated his YouTube channel on the 28th with a segment discussing his ongoing battle with drug addiction.

    To make sure he never repeats his past mistakes, Tashiro keeps up monthly drug tests. This one marked his 21st, and he shared footage of himself being tested with staff from the NPO APARI present, smiling as he reported a negative result.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 29, 2026 00:48
    Watching Osaka night-view channels on YouTube beats watching Peace-kun from Omiya Park any day (Peace-kun is a peacock livestreamed from a park in Saitama).
    6AnonymousSep 29, 2026 00:50
    Guess this is about as 'human interest' as the news gets these days lol
    7AnonymousSep 29, 2026 00:52
    Tashiro, Shimizu, Kiyohara — I figure they'll all end up using again eventually.
    26AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:01
    Re: #8 Re: #7
    At this point guys like Tashiro can basically only become living witnesses telling everyone how scary drugs are lol
    8AnonymousSep 29, 2026 00:54
    You can tell just by looking at him — a cautionary tale, in a way?
    9AnonymousSep 29, 2026 00:57
    You can stop writing articles about this guy already.
    16AnonymousSep 29, 2026 00:59
    I can't quit drinking either, so I kind of get it.
    20AnonymousSep 29, 2026 00:59
    If he hadn't gotten busted for upskirt photography and drugs, I bet Tashiro would still be all over TV.
    34AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:04
    Re: #20
    Forget just being on TV constantly — he'd probably be living it up as a respected veteran entertainer, remembered as Ken Shimura's capable right-hand man.
    28AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:02
    It's not that it takes time — he just can't quit.
    31AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:04
    Honestly the other scandal left a bigger mark than the drugs did.
    32AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:04
    Quitting cigarettes was brutal enough for me, so of course meth would be worse.
    I was only hooked on cigarettes for 6 years and it was that hard.
    No way someone who's been using for over 10 years can just quit.
    43AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:10
    Re: #32
    It's not just cigarettes — if you told me that starting tomorrow I could never again do alcohol, pachinko, gaming, sex, or masturbation for the rest of my life, there's no way I could manage that either.
    Guys like Tashiro have had their brains rewired to crave the drug, so I do feel for them.
    54AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:15
    Re: #32
    That's because you're trying to quit cold turkey while still pulling nicotine deep into your lungs.
    Just switching to oral smoking that doesn't reach the lungs clears up nicotine addiction — taken step by step it's surprisingly easy.
    Most people just don't know that.
    40AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:06
    They say you can quit if you just smoke it, "aburi"-style (inhaling the vapor rather than injecting).
    That's supposedly how it was for Nori-P (Noriko Sakai, the singer/actress with a past drug case), right?
    41AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:07
    It's just weakness.
    Drinking, smoking, gambling —
    people who can really quit just quit outright.
    42AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:09
    And he's turning it into speaking-fee income, too.
    44AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:10
    Can they really pull you in for questioning out of nowhere and make you take a urine test without a warrant?
    Was it voluntary?
    49AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:13
    Nothing but excuses.
    He keeps using because he has no real intention of quitting.
    51AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:14
    This entertainment beat that's been recycling the same story for like 30 years — are they just having some hand-cranked pseudo-AI 'artificial non-intelligence' bot write it? lol
    56AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:15
    All the pleasure in the world gets funneled into meth alone, and the brain just keeps craving it — there's physically no way to simply quit.
    It's really about how well you can 'interrupt' it.
    You'd basically have to go into using meth already resolved to quit, which is a contradiction in itself.
    90AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:33
    Re: #43 Re: #56
    Right.
    Apparently the brain literally gets rewired to crave stimulants.
    So trying to quit on willpower alone is a lost cause.
    The only real option is physical isolation from the drug.
    58AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:16
    ASKA and Kiyohara are actually doing well for themselves, though.

    Background and key points of this discussion

    Since 2001, Tashiro has been arrested and served time multiple times for violations of the Stimulants Control Act and related offenses. Since his release, he has continued sharing his road to recovery with support from the NPO APARI, and the monthly self-testing reported here is part of that effort — though opinions remain divided over whether a celebrity with an arrest record should keep speaking publicly about it. The thread split over whether to see addiction as “weakness of will” or as “an illness involving changes in the brain,” with many commenters in the latter camp showing understanding that it’s a condition requiring specialized treatment. At the same time, his other scandals — including a voyeurism case unrelated to drugs — remain fresh in people’s minds, making for a complicated mix of sympathy and criticism that’s hard to capture through the back-and-forth of comments alone.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Entertainment/Sports News+) thread “[Entertainment] Masashi Tashiro opens up about his fight against drug addiction: “They say ‘just quit already’… but it takes time”.”

  • Men’s 4x100m Relay: Japan Finishes 5th — China Takes Gold, Taiwan Silver, South Korea Bronze

    In the men’s 400m relay final on day 10 of the Aichi-Nagoya Asian Games, Japan (Shuhei Tada, Fukuto Komuro, Yoshihide Kiryu, Yuki Koike) finished 5th with a time of 38.57 seconds. China took gold in 38.17, followed by Taiwan in 2nd, South Korea in 3rd, and Thailand in 4th. Japan never found its rhythm from the first leg (Tada) to the second (Komuro), and sloppy baton work throughout cost them a medal for the first time in four straight Games. Kiryu reflected, “We said ‘gold medal’ out loud, but somewhere in our hearts there was a feeling that just getting a medal would be fine.” On 5ch, discussion centered on baton-passing technique, the team’s aging roster, and whether hosting the Games was even worthwhile.

    ◇Aichi-Nagoya Asian Games, Day 10 — Athletics (September 28, 2026, Paloma Mizuho Stadium)

    The men’s 400m relay final was held, and Japan (Shuhei Tada, Fukuto Komuro, Yoshihide Kiryu, Yuki Koike) finished 5th in 38.57 seconds. China won gold in 38.17. Taiwan took 2nd, followed by South Korea and Thailand.

    Japan never got into a rhythm with Tada running the first leg and Komuro the second, and baton work lacked sharpness across the board. Koike, taking the handoff from Kiryu in 4th place on the anchor leg, dropped a further spot. Having missed a medal for the fourth Games running, Kiryu admitted, “We said ‘gold medal’ out loud, but somewhere in our hearts there was a feeling that just getting a medal would be fine.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 29, 2026 00:52
    Watching an Osaka night-view video channel on YouTube beats watching Peace-kun from Omiya Park any day.
    3AnonymousSep 29, 2026 00:53
    Every event here just screams 'declining Japan.'
    The only decent result was in Puyo Puyo lol (yes, competitive Puyo Puyo is an Asian Games event)
    4AnonymousSep 29, 2026 00:53
    They didn't have the raw speed to begin with, and on top of that the baton passes were fumbling — no way they were getting a medal.
    5AnonymousSep 29, 2026 00:53
    Re: #1
    What's a '400m relay'?
    Just write it properly as the 4×100m relay.
    6AnonymousSep 29, 2026 00:54
    Was there even any point in hosting the Asian Games?
    It hasn't generated any buzz at all.
    46AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:19
    Re: #6
    They wanted to host the Olympics in Aichi, right?
    Supposedly this was meant to build a track record of hosting international events toward that goal.
    I guess the upside is it proved hosting an Olympics here is basically out of the question.
    9AnonymousSep 29, 2026 00:56
    Didn't think losing to South Korea in track and field was even possible.
    11AnonymousSep 29, 2026 00:59
    Re: #9
    Isn't losing to Taiwan, of all teams, the bigger problem here?
    16AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:03
    Track and field looks best under a clear blue sky, but here it's all night sessions with nonstop rain — visually it's dark and cold, and just watching it makes you feel lonely and sad.
    Plus, not being able to use Yuji Oda, the ultimate hype man, is fatal (a TV personality famous for his enthusiastic athletics commentary). He's one of the best motivators this sport has — even if he can't do every day, they should at least squeeze him in as a guest for one.
    21AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:06
    Re: #16
    Isn't Yuji Oda busy over at Fuji TV right now?
    17AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:03
    China wasn't even that fast either,
    but Japan's time is bad, huh.
    Isn't that slower than 20 years ago?
    31AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:09
    Re: #17
    Yeah, not fast at all.
    Japan's 4×100 usually runs in the 37-second range — even the B-team ran 37.84 at the World Relays just a year ago.
    35AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:13
    The 4x400m relay is way more promising right now, honestly.
    45AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:18
    Re: #35
    Yeah, the 4×400 looks promising.
    Everyone was sharp in the heats.
    Question is where to slot in Nakaji — first leg, probably?
    If Nakaji runs the opener, he could come in right around 44.00 flat.
    36AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:14
    Japan's soccer team regressed at the World Cup too — it's done for.
    77AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:31
    Re: #36
    Wasn't Japan's World Cup result actually the best among Asian teams though?
    38AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:15
    The baton passing got really sloppy.
    At this rate there's barely any time spent at top speed.
    49AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:20
    Re: #38
    Japan's baton passing gets hailed as world-class
    👇
    Drops it at the Tokyo Olympics (trauma)
    👇
    Switches from underhand to overhand passing
    👇
    Ends up with this result

    Basically, they changed something that was working because of that trauma. Kind of dumb, honestly.
    50AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:20
    Re: #38
    Pretty much every handoff was botched.
    This one's on the coaching — sabotage-tier bad.
    43AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:17
    Tada, Koike, and Kiryu ran 37.78 together two years ago at the Paris Olympics — though it was Sani Brown instead of Komuro back then.
    They've fallen off way too hard.
    68AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:27
    Re: #43
    Judging by the heats, Tada wasn't pulling away at the start at all.
    53AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:20
    Same members as always — means there's nobody coming up behind them. Totally washed up.
    59AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:22
    Re: #53
    It was already abnormal that Japan was even in global medal contention in this event.
    56AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:21
    They kept hyping 'gold, gold' and this is what we get lol
    Thailand's Boonsong is cheat-level fast, and Japan got passed right at the end, dropping to 5th.
    60AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:23
    Re: #56
    His acceleration was like 'wow, fast guys really are fast' — I laughed.
    66AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:26
    What's with calling them the 'Relay Samurai'?
    69AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:27
    Re: #66
    Take it up with TBS.
    71AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:28
    Having multiple guys in their 30s is rough.
    One would be understandable, but this means generational turnover just isn't happening.
    78AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:31
    Re: #71
    It'd make sense if they were still performing at the same level, but
    the Japanese sprinters who used to run 10.00–10.10 in their prime are now in their 30s and can only manage 10.30–10.50,
    and that's still the top tier in Japan…
    No wonder they lost to Taiwan.
    81AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:32
    Re: #71
    The young guys are plenty fast, actually.
    They've even broken Kiryu's high school record — the one everyone said was untouchable.
    72AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:28
    The women's team looked great this time too and pulled off the feat of winning bronze,
    so they're the ones who should be pushed as the face of the sport.
    Something like 'Relay Maidens' or whatever — there's gotta be an angle.
    80AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:32
    Re: #72
    Right, it's the women's era now, not these lousy 'samurai.'
    83AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:33
    In Asia, Australia (Oz) is #1, and Japan's results are worse than before.
    84AnonymousSep 29, 2026 01:34
    Re: #83
    By that logic, so are Brazil and the Netherlands?

    Background and Talking Points

    Japan’s men’s 400m relay squad is still largely built around the generation that contended for medals at the Tokyo Olympics, and many posts in the thread pointed to a stalled generational handover — “same members, nobody coming up behind them.” Some posts speculated that Japan overhauled its baton-passing technique in the wake of the Tokyo Olympics dropped-baton incident, but that’s speculation within the thread rather than an officially confirmed change, so it’s worth treating with caution. Opinions were also split on the value of hosting the Games, with some framing it as a track record built toward an eventual Olympic bid and others simply seeing it as an event that failed to generate buzz. Alongside comparisons noting that times from China, Taiwan, South Korea, and Thailand have all improved while Japan’s top sprinters’ personal bests have declined with age, this 5th-place finish is being read less as a one-off slump than as a structural problem.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Asian Games] Athletics: Men’s 400m Relay — Japan Finishes 5th, Athletes Stunned After the Race, China Gold, Taiwan 2nd, South Korea 3rd.”

  • Ace Combat 8 Sparks Launch Sales Worries — Predecessor Only Hit 7.5 Million After Steep Discounts

    With the release of “Ace Combat 8” approaching, users on 5ch’s game hardware board have been buzzing about the fact that its Amazon bestseller ranking has barely moved from around 2,000th place for nearly a month. While the official livestream drew over 4,500 concurrent viewers, and the game sits at No. 4 on the PlayStation Store and No. 1 on Steam, opinions split on whether the weak package sales reflect genuinely soft demand or simply a shift toward digital purchases. Posters also pointed to the previous entry, “7,” which opened with 202,000 units in its first week before eventually reaching 7.5 million copies through repeated steep discounts — fueling a lively debate over how far “8” will climb.

    1AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:41
    Marathon
    TOKON
    Wolverine
    7AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:44
    It hasn't budged from around 2,000th on Amazon for the past month.
    Even adding in the limited-edition sales, that's basically a rounding error — this looks pretty bad…
    88AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:28
    Re: #7
    About on par with Wolverine.
    Looks like a guaranteed bomb.
    8AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:45
    The official stream is getting huge hype, so isn't this destined to dominate?
    https://www.youtube.com/live/sKv4lbKC7zU
    12AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:47
    Re: #8
    Oh, it's live right now?
    4,500 concurrent viewers, huh…
    16AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:49
    Re: #12
    That's a solid number.
    If I ever got that many concurrent viewers on my own stream, I'd be doing a happy dance.
    69AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:52
    Re: #12
    Beating the official Xbox stream's numbers, huh.

    Re: #45
    Leave Xbox out of it —
    its sales probably won't even register ("棒"/"stick" is slang for numbers so low they don't even show up as a bar on the chart).
    13AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:47
    It'll clear 50k in the first week at least,
    but I doubt it grows much after week two.
    14AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:48
    Re: #13
    Wasn't 7's first week around 200k units…?
    15AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:48
    Seriously, how did it end up like this?
    26AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:55
    Re: #15
    Either demand shifted to Steam and digital,
    or people have simply lost interest —
    hard to say for sure.
    19AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:50
    By today's PlayStation standards that's a hard number to imagine.


    "PS4 Ace Combat 7 domestic first-week sales: 202,000 units — far surpassing the previous title"
    https://www.gamespark.jp/article/2019/01/25/86883.html
    55AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:16
    Re: #19
    So 200k is the bar to clear?
    That's rough, lol
    20AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:51
    I got an email saying it arrives tomorrow, and thought "huh?" — turns out it's early access, only found out from the video.
    By the way, this is the Steam version
    https://jpeg.men/1KoU850BWyS.jpg
    24AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:54
    Re: #1
    Currently No. 4 on the PlayStation Store.
    Early access starts tomorrow for 3 days.
    42AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:07
    Re: #24
    No. 4 on a PS Store that's practically empty, huh…
    28AnonymousSep 28, 2026 20:57
    Steam's ranking is high, and there's early access on the digital version, so package sales are only a small slice of the total.
    34AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:01
    Re: #28
    There's also a Collector's Box package that comes with early access, you know.
    31AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:00
    A big factor is that AC7 was full of stress-inducing missions — people just don't want to go through that again.
    32AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:00
    Re: #31
    Yeah, I felt that too.
    40AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:07
    Re: #38
    The digital version of Ace Combat 8 is still losing to FC27 though (FC27 = the annual EA Sports FC soccer game).
    45AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:09
    Re: #40
    FC's numbers include microtransactions plus the base game, though.
    Ace Combat is No. 4 on the overall PS ranking and No. 1 on Steam,
    so it's obvious most of its sales are digital.
    48AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:12
    Re: #45
    The fact that you can't make the case on PS5 numbers alone and have to bring up Steam kind of says it all.
    51AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:14
    Re: #45
    Another case of it flopping on PS5 but selling mainly on Steam?
    61AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:34
    If the last one did 7 million, this one'll probably sell decently too, no?
    62AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:35
    Re: #61
    If it doesn't move over 200k in weekly sales though, that's a failure.
    65AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:43
    Re: #61 Re: #63
    Heard something similar about Tekken back in the day.
    Is this just how Namco titles always go?
    63AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:39
    7 racked up its numbers by getting dumped at 90% off — the real question is how many actual fans that created.
    68AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:51
    Re: #63
    People who bought it during the fire sale are just going to wait for the next one to get dumped too.
    66AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:49
    Re: #49
    Coming from someone who's been bumping threads about third-party games not selling on Switch 2, this take is absolutely ridiculous.
    67AnonymousSep 28, 2026 21:49
    Re: #66
    Come on, leave it.
    He probably thinks he's being totally consistent with that.
    75AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:22
    When's a Switch 2 version of this likely to get greenlit, I wonder?
    76AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:23
    Re: #75
    Bandai Namco owes too much of a debt of gratitude to Sony for that ("マンバンナム" is net slang for Bandai Namco), so they probably won't release it there —
    7 basically existed to promote this one anyway.
    80AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:40
    I think a big reason AC7 sold well was that it was the first numbered entry in 12 years, plus VR support.
    It had only been 5 years since '3D,' but that was a portable remake, and during those 12 years it was mostly spin-offs like the X series, Horizon, and Infinity — I think that gap mattered a lot.
    But on the flip side, 7's actual content was pretty mediocre, so as a reaction a lot of people seem to be taking a wait-and-see approach with 8.
    81AnonymousSep 28, 2026 22:43
    Re: #80
    I think 7 would've been a lot better if the mission time limits weren't so tight.
    Though it'd only be "better," since what you can actually do got cut down a lot compared to 6.
    89AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:36
    Latest word is that 7 has apparently hit 7.5 million units lol
    Bandai Namco has revealed that total sales of "Ace Combat 7" have reached 7.5 million
    https://gamecolumn.jp/blog-entry-115750.html
    94AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:43
    Re: #89
    Well, it did get as cheap as 668 yen at its lowest.
    90AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:37
    They're running a ton of TV commercials too —
    this time they're really putting serious effort into promotion.
    You can feel the publisher's seriousness, but who knows how it'll turn out.
    92AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:38
    Re: #90
    No matter how much they pour into advertising, sales on PS5 still look shaky.
    93AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:42
    Re: #92
    The industry's already shifted to digital, that's just how it is now.
    The publisher understands that too, which is exactly why they can afford to pour money into commercials.
    If it really wasn't going to sell, they'd be cutting the ad budget too.
    95AnonymousSep 28, 2026 23:45
    Re: #93
    Have you not noticed the PS5 console itself — despite airing tons of desperate commercials over and over, its sales never budge!?

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    The previous title, “Ace Combat 7,” put up a respectable first-week showing for its time on PS4 with 202,000 units, but it was later discounted repeatedly — down to as low as 668 yen — eventually building up to 7.5 million units in cumulative sales. In the thread, this history of “padding the numbers through discounting” was treated as shared background knowledge, setting a high bar for what’s expected of 8. Where opinions diverged was in how to read the sluggish Amazon ranking. Given that the game sits at No. 4 on the PlayStation Store and No. 1 on Steam, some read this as simply “sales having shifted from packaged copies to downloads and Steam,” while others remained skeptical that “even so, the numbers are just too weak.” Some also pointed out that 7’s time-limited missions were poorly received, and that as a reaction many fans are taking a wait-and-see approach with 8. It’s also worth noting that 8 has a paid three-day early access period before release, and the thread never made clear exactly what will be counted as part of its “first week” sales.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry (Geha)) thread “If Ace Combat 8 flops this week….”