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The Love Live! Fest pre-festival show is split into two separate performances: one featuring Nijigasaki (shorthand: “Niji”) and Liella! (shorthand: “Hasu”), and another featuring the remaining two units, nicknamed Hoshi (lit. “star”) and Tori (lit. “bird”). A 5ch thread blew up over the fact that the Nijigasaki+Liella! show is already sold out — and since applying for it disqualifies you from the Hoshi+Tori lottery, even that show’s obstructed-view seats vanished in an instant — while the Hoshi+Tori show still has tickets available as of this writing. Commenters split over what’s driving the lopsided demand, and over how to even judge singing quality (vocal overlay vs. lip-syncing) at a live show.
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If you also entered the lottery for the Hoshi+Tori show, you're disqualified from the Nijigasaki+Liella! one — on top of that it's one-show-only, and even the obstructed-view seats for that show sold out instantly. People who want to go simply can't.
Even granting that, having it play out exactly like Re: #4 describes — one show's obstructed-view seats gone in a flash while the other's still unsold — just isn't normal… I can only think Liella! is bigger than the organizers expected.
That's a stretch, calling it a flat "can't go" — I call BS.
I got into every single show, both days.
Pairing 1st with 4th and 2nd with 3rd is standard practice.
And with 104th-gen cast and the two EN (English dub) members appearing, of course a venue that size fills up without even trying.
Though I don't feel even a hint of "guess I'll go out of pity" either.
Where'd that 10,000-strong army at Keio Arena Tokyo go…?
Tori's just like Niji — it's a show where only the people who want to go wild at a live even bother watching.
The crowd manners at Tori's shows are the worst, come on.
Or is the reasoning something like "we want people to switch over from Hoshi to Tori"?
They just noticed it exists — that doesn't mean they became fans of both.
Wouldn't that mean there's a ridiculous gap between #1 and #2?
Day one is basically filled by Liella! alone.
If only 2-3 Liella! members were appearing, it'd have sold even less.
Do you even know who's performing?
I know that, but day two's Hoshi lineup is Date, Nagi, Suzuhara, and Yuina — it's not like they booked an unpopular slate.
So I'm asking why it's still not selling out.
Liella!'s lineup is basically the B-team.
The popular 102nd/103rd-gen members aren't even in it.
Feel bad for it just getting bundled with a debuff, basically.
Even Aqours, who leaned hard on vocal overlay (kabuse — backup/pre-recorded vocals layered over live singing) near the end, actually sang when they were young.
Aqours was lip-syncing from the very start, come on.
That's because nobody's actually listening to the singing.
If that's the standard, the other series might as well go full backup-track too —
that way Houmoto and Date could just dominate unopposed.
They weren't lip-syncing back then —
https://youtu.be/dnM1u_e57Rs?si=6S2kIX8NoEPqEiNV
At the actual regular lives they've been lip-syncing since the 1st live.
and that's precisely because those groups actually sing instead of lip-syncing.
Current-day Love Live! is running dead against that real-life (3D) idol trend.
Liella! is gaining popularity…? Since when?
K-pop idols sing for real, you know.
And it's precisely because they do that they get torn apart for being tone-deaf at US festivals, setting off bragging-rights wars among fans.
The Sakamichi groups (Nogizaka/Hinatazaka/Sakurazaka) were never expected to actually sing well in the first place.
Meanwhile over at Liella!, people like ID:GYfTkqXp were smugly going "heh, Liella!'s better than XX, isn't it~"
That's the difference, I think (dead serious).
The "can't-breathe live" fans and the SixTONES stans were having this nice cross-cultural exchange over their shared ordeal of watching the show in a downpour, and then a Hoshi diehard barges in with a sly "how about bundling it with Supa Suta (shorthand for another show)" suggestion — I couldn't help but laugh at the nerve.
Whatever happened with that, I wonder.
The "can't-breathe live" act's Spotify listener count went up, while Liella!'s dropped like usual.
Isn't that the answer right there?
Background and Key Points of This Discussion
The Love Live! franchise runs multiple units in parallel — Nijigasaki High School Idol Club, Liella! (Hasunosora), and others — each differing in when it formed, its member lineup, and how deep its fanbase runs. In joint events like this pre-festival show, applications tend to pile up on whichever pairing features the most popular units, sending lottery odds through the roof, while the leftover pairing becomes easy to get tickets for. Within the thread, opinions split over whether this imbalance comes down to the popularity of the performing members and generational differences (102nd-gen, 103rd-gen, 104th-gen, etc.), or whether it reflects how the shows themselves are rated. The use of lip-syncing and vocal overlay (kabuse) at lives has also long been a point of contention, and this thread again divided over whether anyone is really listening to the singing at all. None of this amounts to confirmed fact — it should be read as a snapshot of how different fans perceive the same situation.
*This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Love Live!) thread “[Sad News] You Can Still Buy Pre-Festival Tickets.”
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