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A thread went up on 5ch’s Newsoku VIP board after a poster reported finally pulling the character they’d been after from the mobile game Suikoden: Star Leap’s gacha. The thread turned into a discussion of just how generous the gacha is — commenters noted that the monthly event alone hands out enough currency for 160 pulls, and once you factor in daily stone collection, players can rack up close to 200 pulls a month. On the other hand, some pointed out that pulling a character just once isn’t enough to unlock their full potential — you need “totsu” (landing duplicate copies to power them up), a common mechanic in these games — which sparked debate over just how far you can really get without spending money.
What people said
(っ´ω`c)Were you my in-game friend?
Nope
I'm the Holodori guy
(っ´ω`c)Wait, you actually had it installed? I figured you weren't playing — thought you'd be busy with Holodori
I stopped even logging in after about 2 days so I deleted it lol
(っ´ω`c)Well get this, you can actually pull her from the gacha now
~･̆)I'm… not… gonna play it!!!
(っ´ω`c)I see, well that can't be helped then. But you should still play Astraea Oratio, okay?
Is this one of those Genshin-type games?
Pre-registered anyway
~･̆)Is that the lewd one?
(っ´ω`c)I want Georg too someday
From daily missions?
160 pulls a month from events
(っ´ω`c)This game hands out a ton of gacha stones through the monthly event rewards, don't you know~ It's enough for a full 160 pulls total, spread over 4 weeks, don't you know~
Add in the daily stone collection on top of that and you're looking at about 200 pulls a month altogether, don't you know~
But I'm still playing Star Leap completely free. I guess I really just don't feel like spending money anymore
(ꐦ·᷅ὢ·᷄ꐦ )Saving up for a Switch 2 instead, huh
Even when you pay and actually land the one you wanted, it still leaves a weird bad taste somehow
!? Whoa
No need to pay at all
(っ´ω`c)And on top of that, the free characters you get are crazy strong, don't you know~
(ꐦ·᷅ὢ·᷄ꐦ )In practice though, quite a few characters are basically worthless without dupes, so getting just one copy doesn't always let you use them effectively
I see!
I was wondering how they're making money off this
Guess paying is needed after all?
(っ´ω`c)No need to pay — I mean, I haven't paid a cent myself
Do they make you watch ads?
Guess it's ad revenue for now
(ꐦ·᷅ὢ·᷄ꐦ )Well, if we're just talking about whether it's "necessary," isn't that true of every gacha game?
With games built on an existing IP, people naturally want to casually main their favorite characters
And that means needing 2 dupes just to unlock skills they won't otherwise learn…
(っ´ω`c)There aren't even ads
The paid content will probably ramp up from here
(ꐦ·᷅ὢ·᷄ꐦ )For now it'll probably stay like this though
If anything, the difficulty's been tuned down compared to last event
Well, once the anime hype dies down, I bet we'll see a "loadout check" [content gatekept behind heavy dupe investment] show up in 6 months to a year
(っ´ω`c)A monthly pass did show up, didn't it
(ꐦ·᷅ὢ·᷄ꐦ )While this campaign's running I use the free tickets to grab breakfast or go out for lunch, so my Komeda's [Komeda Coffee, a Japanese café chain] visit rate goes way up
(っ´ω`c)That tea looks delicious!
Mobile order!?
(ꐦ·᷅ὢ·᷄ꐦ )Speaking of tea, I ordered green tea at a tea house last week
It's outrageous that cafés, despite being cafés, only put real effort into their coffee
Serve proper tea already
Apparently corn tea is trending right now
Saw a thread about it on Kenmo [5ch's anti-corporate/news board]
(っ´ω`c)What even is this, are they messing with us
5ch is the best
Your ID resets the next day so you get reborn — can't beat that
(ꐦ·᷅ὢ·᷄ꐦ )I mean, even as an influencer, without some kind of existing following, nobody's going to notice anything you post anyway
(っ´ω`c)Being a semi-regular like me, where people actually recognize you, is rough though……
Background and Key Points
Star Leap is a gacha mobile game featuring characters from the Suikoden series, apparently released to ride the wave of the anime’s broadcast. The “totsu” mentioned in the thread refers to acquiring duplicate copies of a character to unlock their exclusive skills or raise their performance ceiling — a revenue structure common to many Japanese gacha games, which is why pulling a character just once doesn’t let them show their full potential. It’s also not unusual in the industry for operators to pad out event rewards early on to draw in new players, only to adjust distribution rates and balance (a so-called “loadout check”) six months to a year later. The “200 pulls a month” figure cited in the thread reflects current distribution rates, and readers should keep in mind that this could change going forward.
※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Newsoku VIP) thread “(っ´ω`c) I Finally Pulled the Character I Wanted From Suikoden: Star Leap’s Gacha.”
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