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The story
The thread kicked off with a simple question: “Old-school netizens always used to call marriage ‘life’s graveyard’ — but was that actually a lie?” The discussion quickly spiraled into a slap-fight over who’s really better off, singles or married people, and it hit a full boil when a poster claiming to be married posted a photo of a property registration certificate as “proof” he was really married. The single camp fired back that he was just an unmarried guy still living with his parents, borrowing his niece’s or nephew’s stuff to troll. From there it turned into an escalating duel of “proof” screenshots. Posters also split over a more fundamental question: is getting married down to luck, or to effort?
What people said
Exactly this.
If you're going to argue single life is better, you need at least one divorce (a "batsu-ichi," literally "one X mark" — 5ch slang for a divorcé) under your belt, or it's not convincing.
Nah, that just wrecks your finances and burns your time — no thanks.
I know a guy whose life fell apart after his divorce, so I can't say that so lightly.
He spent years fighting it out in divorce mediation and ended up paying 150,000 yen a month in child support.
Reality check: one in three married couples gets divorced.
Probably patrolling the Yahoo! News comment section (a notorious hangout for lonely middle-aged men in Japanese internet culture).
Can you not see yourself, posting on NanJ (the sports/live-commentary board this very thread is on)?
Actually, I'm married with kids.
Anyone can just say they're married.
You lose, old single guy.
Too bad for you.
That's just a single guy still living with his parents, using his niece's and nephew's stuff to troll.
This is the custom-built single-story house I had put up, by the way, lol.
Pathetic kodo-oji screeching, lol.
You built a house and you've got a wife and kids, and yet this thread is the only place you belong — isn't that a bit too sad?
Don't stick your kid in front of an educational TV show! 😡
Good eye.
Actually, my kid won that from a crane game.
Anyway, here's my certificate of registration completion (proof issued after a property's ownership is officially recorded), lolol.
Bet the kodo-oji doesn't even know what this is, lol.
Don't let a baby operate a crane game! 😡
The kodo-oji's furious "certificate of registration" comeback, lol.
There's a surplus of women these days, so it's less about luck and more about how much time and effort you put in.
It's luck.
Though sure, you gotta spin the roulette wheel to get anything started.
Lol, he brought out his sibling's property register.
A-a "property register"?? lolol
The register itself is kept at the Legal Affairs Bureau, lol — there's no way you could take that out.
Totally busted as someone who's never actually owned a house ("air-play," 5ch slang for faking experience you don't have).
The idea that your family home was built in Reiwa 5 (2023, the current Japanese imperial era year) is hilarious, lol.
But that's your sibling's, isn't it, lol
Kind of not normal, honestly.
Re: #94
The idea in your head that people just hand documents you'd normally lock in a safe over to their siblings, lol.
Says the guy uploading "safe-level" documents to the internet.
The guy living with his sibling getting worked up, lol.
What is this guy even saying.
Are you seriously clueless about real estate?
So worked up, lol.
Ha, that landed, lol.
Messing with older singles is fun, lol.
But that's your nephew, isn't it, lol
If you hate kids there's no point getting married.
There's no way you'd ever become a hands-on, kid-loving dad like me.
You really just want to spend all your time on yourself, huh, lol
From the government's point of view you're just exploiting it for tax breaks — that's actually the worst kind, lol.
Background and Key Points of the Debate
The phrase “marriage is life’s graveyard” has long been used online by single people to justify their status — but this thread starts from the opposite position, arguing that saying was never true. In practice, divorce is common enough that pushback appeared too: posters pointed out that “one in three married couples divorces,” and cited an acquaintance whose divorce mediation dragged on for years and ended with 150,000 yen a month in child-support payments, suggesting marriage isn’t always a rose garden. The debate also split over whether getting married comes down to luck or to effort, with one side citing Japan’s current surplus of women to argue that time and effort matter more, and the other insisting luck is still the deciding factor. Notably, the “proof” documents that became the centerpiece of the argument — registers (登記簿) — are legally kept in original form only at the Legal Affairs Bureau and can’t be physically taken out by individuals, a technicality other posters were quick to call out.
*This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (NanJ / “Whatever’s on Live” board) thread: “[Sad News] Old-school netizens’ claim that ‘marriage is life’s graveyard’ turns out to be a lie, lol”.
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