New Juice=Juice Fans and Respect for Graduated Members: 5ch Says “The Feeling Just Isn’t There”

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A thread appeared on 5ch’s Hello! Project board asking, “Do people who recently became Juice=Juice fans actually respect the OGs (graduated former members) who left the group?” Some new fans said, “I don’t really know what kind of people they were, so I’d like to learn about them little by little,” while others pushed back with, “Don’t force me to respect members I don’t even know.” Even longtime fans admitted, “The golden era is too far in the past to feel anything real about it,” and the most common view was that how much respect you feel depends on how closely your favorite member’s era overlaps with the OGs.

What people said

1AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:45
Or is it more of a "who cares about the old-school members" kind of thing?
2AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:45
The style where you go all-in denying and bashing the OGs
4AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:47
Re: #1
It's none of your business anyway, you're just an anti-fan!
5AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:48
When you're digging into the old songs, you can probably manage without knowing who Yukanya is (fan nickname for an early member)
6AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:49
If Kanazawa were still active today, she'd probably be insanely popular
7AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:50
Takagi's the only one I respect
8AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:50
I do want to respect them
But honestly I have no idea what kind of people they were, so I want to learn bit by bit going forward
I got into the group from the McDonald's commercial this past March
9AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:51
These days you can watch all sorts of stuff on YouTube ("tube") or Chinese streaming sites
14AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:53
Re: #9
YouTube got way less convenient since you can't search videos by upload date anymore
Especially annoying when you're trying to dig up old footage
And I don't want to touch those illegal Chinese sites
10AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:52
In the early days it was basically a group built around Karin-chan
11AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:52
You like Juice's current vibe, right?
So you'd probably hate the tense, drama-filled original lineup
13AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:53
I respect whoever wrote the songs
The songwriters are the real MVPs
15AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:53
Re: #1
Let me ask you this instead — why do we have to respect them?
16AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:54
Didn't Juice start out as a duo with Inoue and Danbara?
17AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:55
Re: #1
There's no way that's just a given
Sure, some people will do it on the surface
I'm an old-timer from the "One For" era, but the golden age is so far back that I honestly still don't feel real respect for it
On the surface I logically think things like "we owe where we are now to those people," but that's about as far as it goes
The Platinum era is about the cutoff where I can actually feel respect
And that's coming from someone as old-school as me
20AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:56
Re: #17
You'll always be a "One For"-era newbie no matter how much time passes
18AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:55
Re: #14
Whether you like it or not isn't my problem
21AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:57
Not interested
I want to listen on streaming services, but since I want to hear the current members' voices, I mostly just watch YouTube and the Blu-ray of the Spring 2025 tour
22AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:57
Do Homamei (portmanteau nickname for two current members' fanbase) fans even respect the original members???
23AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:58
The loudest voices are always the ones who don't respect them
24AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:58
Juice had Uemura around until fairly recently, so it's still pretty easy to trace things back
41AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:24
Re: #7
That's the one that got called "on another level" on Kanjam (Danbara was in it too)
Re: #24
Uemura Akari's contribution to laying the groundwork for today's Juice=Juice
Everyone got along really well

Including Kanazawa Tomoko and Inaba Manaka — that's the impression that sticks most
25AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:59
Quick question
How exactly am I supposed to "respect" them?
26AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:01
It's ridiculous to tell Moremi or Kurakura newbies (fanbases of current members) to respect OGs they barely know who graduated more than five years ago
Forcing respect on anyone in the first place is just wrong
28AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:01
Why would new fans have to respect members who already quit and aren't even around anymore lol
Makes no sense
30AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:03
I do respect the saintly Miyamoto Karin — she rescued Mippuru, made her the group's first great ace, and gave birth to Juice=Juice
31AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:04
It's kind of like how people feel about pro baseball alumni
Basically don't care either way, but it's annoying when they pop up as commentators and say something dumb
32AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:08
Re: #1
Which OG, specifically?

I don't think for a second that "if even one OG were missing, Angerme wouldn't be what it is today"
Somebody just say it already
34AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:10
If it were Morning Musume's golden-era members singing songs released after they left, that'd be one thing
But Miyamoto and Inaba singing current members' songs — yeah, that's a bit much
35AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:11
I respect the former leader
I think she directly laid the foundation for how things are run now
36AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:12
Both Morning Musume fans and original-lineup ghosts are just so full of themselves about it
37AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:16
For anti-fans, current members and OGs don't matter
They just bash everyone
38AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:16
Is it not just OGs from groups like Juice, which only got popular after all the founding members left — do even OGs from groups that built a genuine legend, like AKB, get seen as annoying when they get involved with the current lineup?
48AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:35
I think it depends on which current member you're into
If you're a Ruru or Yumeriai fan, digging into the past naturally grows respect for the original members
If you're into 3FLOWER, you probably have no idea who Takagi is
If you're a Sakuringo or Mippuru fan, you respect Uemura-shan (and if you're a Sakurachi fan, Manakan too)
I'm a Nia newbie, so I genuinely feel nothing toward the original members
49AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:37
Re: #48
Liar
You clearly know way too much for that
57AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:50
Kanatomo retired and still gets discovered by new fans, while Miyamoto's still active and yet doesn't — guess that's the difference in star power

Background and Key Points of This Discussion

Juice=Juice is a Hello! Project group formed in 2013. All of the members who were in the group at its founding have since graduated, and the current lineup is made up of members who joined at various later points. Because of this, what counts as an “OG” (graduated former member) varies from fan to fan — there’s a real gap in how well new fans recognize “older OGs” like early members Miyamoto Karin and Kanazawa Tomoko versus “newer OGs” like Uemura Akari, who stayed with the group until relatively recently. Where opinions split in the thread was over whether respect is something that arises naturally or a personal feeling that shouldn’t be forced on anyone, with the intensity of feeling varying depending on how closely a fan’s favorite current member connects to the OGs. Note that some replies involving personal insults or political/religious comparisons have been excluded from this article.

※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Do people who recently became Juice=Juice fans actually respect the OGs who graduated???

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