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A report posted on 5ch’s Hello! Project board claimed that, 17 minutes before showtime, only about half the seats were filled at an Angerme concert in Fukuoka. The thread that followed compared Angerme’s draw to other groups under the same agency, like Juice=Juice, with posters laying out a table of each group’s 2026 tour attendance figures to debate whether the venue size had been set appropriately. Opinions split between those blaming the agency’s venue choice and those pushing back on the empty-seat report itself, and no consensus emerged.
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@Angerme Fukuoka, 17 minutes before showtime. Looking down from above, it's a little over half full. With just over 10 minutes left, I wonder how much more will fill in.
They keep handing Angerme venues way too big for them 💢
Guess they figured Nagano's popularity would explode after the solo festival
They tried to squeeze Juice=Juice and funnel the fans over to Angerme
That's also why they scaled back the Beyooooonds and Tsubaki Factory tours too
They couldn't care less about fans who wanted to see Juice=Juice but lost the chance
If Up-Front Group is fine with not making money, I guess that's their business
If it's half full, that's still more than Juice=Juice's 800, so isn't that a huge win?
This, exactly
Exactly this
Even at the peak of the so-called 'more-mi' hype bubble (slang for an inflated popularity spike), Juice=Juice could only fill about 1000 seats in Fukuoka
They can't draw more than that, so the agency allocated venues accordingly
Even CANDY TUNE picked up a solid fanbase, so Juice=Juice should have it even easier
Easily
They ran four 800-capacity shows with almost completely different attendees each time
They could just barely fill 3000
They should've known from the start it wouldn't sell out, so stop giving them venues guaranteed to be half-empty!!
You're slyly lumping Musume. and Juice=Juice together, but Musume.'s live-viewing numbers are from graduation concerts lol
From the Fukumura/Takeuchi graduations through the Ikuta/Jokura graduation, Musume. actually lost to Angerme in graduation-concert turnout (including live viewing)
There's no way there's a 5x gap between Musume. and Angerme
Though for the fall tour, Musume. currently has the edge thanks to the bonus of 4 new members joining plus Oda's graduation
Nogizaka46 2026 attendance → 500,000
NiziU 2026 attendance → 240,000
=LOVE 2026 attendance → 220,000
FRUITS ZIPPER 2026 attendance → 200,000
CUTIE STREET 2026 attendance → 180,000
AKB48 2026 attendance → 170,000
Morning Musume. 2026 attendance → 150,000
Juice=Juice 2026 attendance → 100,000
Angerme 2026 attendance → 90,000 ←←←←← this one
Momoiro Clover Z 2026 attendance → 80,000
If you just add up the simple venue capacities for this year's spring and fall tours, it looks like this, so fix your copy-paste
140,000 (140,123) Morning Musume。'26
110,000 (113,420) Juice=Juice
*90,000 (*99,255) Angerme
So today it's probably around 600 to 700 people then?
There's also the family-seating section upstairs, so probably a bit more than that
Nagoya and Osaka are already running empty too, so all they can do is keep doing Tokyo
I can't help but think they're deliberately trolling everyone involved
It started with Berryz's hall shows becoming a running joke for being empty, and then C-ute got absolutely roasted when their Budokan show turned out half-empty
Berikyu kept the same lineup the whole time though
That's different from Angerme, which is in this state even with the boost from graduations and new member additions
Even though it's supposed to be her big homecoming show
This is probably WITH all the Nagano fans showing up
She barely had any time as a trainee, so she never built up a core fanbase, and she got promoted before her reputation had time to solidify, so she doesn't have broad support either
There's basically zero regular viewers who'd catch a promo spot and go buy a 9,000 yen ticket
I don't think anyone's paying them any attention
That's the nature of a graduation/addition-style group — the agency can deliberately power up a group like Juice=Juice just as easily as it can deliberately weaken one like Angerme
Quit lying
I'm at the venue right now and it's packed
Post a photo of the venue then
Background and Key Points of This Discussion
Hello! Project (run by the Up-Front Group) manages multiple idol groups in parallel, allocating venue sizes for each tour based on a group’s popularity and where it stands in its graduation/addition cycle. One factor cited behind Angerme’s inconsistent turnout is that the group has had a steady stream of member graduations and additions in recent years, a structure where the lineup tends to shift again before a stable fanbase can fully form. The thread split into two camps: those who saw it as a misjudgment by the agency for booking a venue too big for the group’s current draw, and those who argued the empty-seat report itself was just mockery from rival groups’ fans and that actual turnout wasn’t much different. Note that the table comparing 2026 attendance figures by group that appears in the replies consists of self-tallied numbers with no stated methodology — for instance, whether same-day ticket sales or livestream viewership are included — so some caution around a simple side-by-side comparison is warranted; this caveat isn’t addressed in the original posts themselves.
※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Angerme’s Fukuoka Show Hits Disastrous Levels of Empty-Seat Fever ｷﾀ━━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━━!!.”
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