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A thread on 5ch’s Hardware/Industry board (Gehan) accused Nintendo of “mass-producing shovelware.” The thread’s creator lined up a list of new Switch 2 titles to criticize, but other users quickly fired back, pointing out that Sony-related titles like Saros, Wolverine, and Marathon were struggling with lackluster concurrent player counts. The discussion spread from comparing sales and review scores to broader debates about load times on old consoles and general player satisfaction — not quite the direction the original poster had hoped for.
What people said
・Nintendo Switch 2 Secrets Exhibition
・Wheelchair Basketball
Wolverine
Marathon
Marvel Tōkon: Fighting Souls
The 'Four Kings of Flops' lineup is strong
And there's no letting up—their replacements are already lined up to take over after these
Sony, King of Shovelware lmaooooooo
No real technical chops
🐷 'Go bash Sony!'
Wolverine 20,039 ←NEW
Saros 4,614
Marvel Tōkon: Fighting Souls 2,814
MLB The Show 26 (English version) 1,893
Marathon (triple-digit concurrent players, about to get its servers shut down)
Guess that's what real shovelware looks like, no wonder it's not selling
Meanwhile Nintendo's stuff sells just fine
You should be more worried that it's barely moving on the Amazon sales ranking
Makes you wonder if it's really coming out in November
It's on a completely different level
Though I haven't played any of them, so what do I know
Even worldwide, I'd bet a lot of the core audience is waiting for the PC version
and got shut down right out the gate, lmao
Unlike a certain other game
It's got its flaws but it's playable
Wolverine looks like it might be the same kind of deal from the outside, but with its scores still dropping, it seems like it might genuinely be bad
Square Enix fanboys are always the ones stoking console wars
They've got no real loyalty to either side, so they can keep it up forever
Guess the console warriors ['Goki-buta,' a jab combining the PlayStation and Nintendo fanboy slurs] have finally started dragging Square Enix into the blame game too lol
Well, even Square Enix can't stay on a sinking ship forever
Wait, the N64 didn't have load times?
It did have load times, actually
And since the people enjoying it are mostly just playing quietly, what shows up online ends up being mostly complaints
Not sure what you'd even do to stop that from happening
Honestly, nothing changes unless the players themselves do
Even fair criticism branches off from there into 'can I forgive this or not,' so the same opinion isn't really the same depending on who's holding it
Palworld's only 3,400 yen though
The N64 supposedly went with cartridges in the first place specifically to avoid load screens
PlayStation's load times really were brutal back then
That said, Ocarina of Time did have load times too
These two alone crush PlayStation's whole lineup this year
Background and Key Points
The Hardware/Industry board, where terms like “gokiburi” (cockroach, a slur for PlayStation fans) and “nin-buta” (Nintendo pig) fly freely, has a long-established culture of Nintendo and Sony partisans goading each other’s camps — and many threads are created specifically to stir up that rivalry. The concurrent-player numbers cited in the replies appear to be drawn from Steam observation data, not official figures or primary-source statistics, so they should be taken with a grain of salt. Another hallmark of this board is how old hardware debates keep resurfacing, as seen in the back-and-forth over N64 and PlayStation load times. The view raised in the thread — that the better a game sells, the more complaints tend to dominate online discussion — is also a thought-provoking point for thinking about game reception in general.
*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry [Gehan]) thread “[Sad News] Nintendo Is Seriously Mass-Producing Shovelware Lately…“.
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