Sada Masashi: “AI Songs Have No Philosophy” — 5ch Fires Back: “Nobody Asked for Philosophy in Music”

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Singer-songwriter Sada Masashi (74) was asked about AI-composed music at a press conference at the Foreign Correspondents’ Club of Japan on September 15, 2026, and replied, “It actually makes pretty good stuff. It just doesn’t have philosophy in it.” Coming from someone who has released over 650 songs across a career spanning more than half a century since his debut, the remark drew a mixed reaction on 5ch: some agreed that “nobody’s asking music for philosophy,” while others pushed back with “it all depends on the prompt” and “tweak the parameters and you can get it closer to human-made music,” splitting opinion over both the quality of AI-made songs and whether music needs “philosophy” at all.

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Singer-songwriter Sada Masashi (74) held a press conference on September 15, 2026, at the Foreign Correspondents’ Club of Japan in Marunouchi, Tokyo. Having released more than 650 songs and continued creating and touring energetically for over 50 years since his debut, Sada shared his views — with occasional laughs — on the value of AI-made music and how to face the loneliness deepening in modern society.

As PCs and AI lower the barrier to making music, how will the value of music and musicians change? Asked this by a reporter, Sada paused for a moment and said, “Now that’s a tough one.” He continued: “When you have AI make music, you know, it actually makes pretty good stuff. It just doesn’t have philosophy in it.”

Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

What people said

3AnonymousSep 15, 2026 18:01
Nobody's asking music for philosophy.
89AnonymousSep 15, 2026 19:23
Re: #3
It's basically the musical equivalent of Irasutoya clip art. (Irasutoya: a hugely popular free clip-art site famous for cheerful but generic illustrations.)
4AnonymousSep 15, 2026 18:01
AI is built by hoovering up mountains of data, so of course it can't produce anything with a sharp edge.
54AnonymousSep 15, 2026 18:53
Re: #4
Tweak the numbers and you can dial it closer to or further from human-made music. That kind of adjustment is doable.
5AnonymousSep 15, 2026 18:04
First I've ever heard that songs are supposed to have 'philosophy' lol (and for the record, I do rate Sada)
6AnonymousSep 15, 2026 18:04
Just ask it to make music 'with philosophy' and it will.
7AnonymousSep 15, 2026 18:05
I genuinely listen to tracks made with Flow Music. It's already at a 'good enough' level. (Flow Music: an AI music-generation service.)
8AnonymousSep 15, 2026 18:06
Sada's a Paul Simon fan, but his lyrics are so heavy-handed for it. Don't spell everything out — leave some interpretation to the listener.
9AnonymousSep 15, 2026 18:06
At the end of the day it's still just a novelty. Voices themselves aren't copyrightable, but once you tie a voice to a name, I'd bet rights kick in — so this kind of fun won't last forever.
10AnonymousSep 15, 2026 18:08
No philosophy, no ideas — shallow music, like Tetsuya Komuro's stuff. (Komuro: legendary '90s J-pop hitmaker/producer.)
41AnonymousSep 15, 2026 18:33
Re: #10
Komuro's music is shallow? Since when?
68AnonymousSep 15, 2026 19:04
Re: #10
Huh? What on earth are you talking about?
11Guard [Lv.14]Sep 15, 2026 18:08
Still a gap for now, but AI's probably going to take over eventually.
Music seems likely to get there faster than illustration or video.
13AnonymousSep 15, 2026 18:10
'Philosophy in music' — I'll bet 10,000 pesetas he blurted that out without really knowing what he meant. (An old joke wager using an obsolete currency, roughly like betting 'a million bucks.')
14AnonymousSep 15, 2026 18:10
Composing is dead.
30AnonymousSep 15, 2026 18:25
Re: #14
Human-made stuff can keep circulating too, I don't really care either way. Good is good, that's all there is to it.
70AnonymousSep 15, 2026 19:06
Re: #14
Is composing dying? Is songwriting dying? Is arranging dying? Please, enlighten me.
15AnonymousSep 15, 2026 18:10
Maybe he means 'music' as in songs, not 'music' as in melody — that's the sense in which he's saying there's no philosophy?
16AnonymousSep 15, 2026 18:10
AI can crank out infinite songs, but it has no idea which ones will actually resonate with people. So humans still have to do the curating, which is still work — and there's no guarantee the curated songs sell. Composing just gets faster for everyone, but that doesn't change anything fundamental.
17AnonymousSep 15, 2026 18:11
You couldn't put Sada's songs on TV these days.
18AnonymousSep 15, 2026 18:11
A reggae version of 'Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon' — solid as actual reggae too.
https://youtu.be/vPGWcaZ-fMY?si=wd5Peal3Jm4swobd
21AnonymousSep 15, 2026 18:16
Re: #18
That's funny precisely because Sailor Moon and reggae already existed as reference points. The real question is whether AI can create a hit on the level of Sailor Moon or reggae completely from scratch.
23AnonymousSep 15, 2026 18:17
AI tracks all seem to have that flat, one-note mix to me.
Re: #18 This person's remix was good too.
86AnonymousSep 15, 2026 19:21
Re: #18
YouTube's flooded with AI tracks, but aren't they mostly 'take an existing famous song and do it in the style of X'? My impression is the only ones that actually go viral are built around celebrities or events, like the Yajuu-senpai meme songs. Has there ever been a case of AI creating a hit completely from scratch — true zero-to-one? Well, maybe a genuine zero-to-one AI hit will show up eventually as the tech improves. (Yajuu-senpai: a famous Japanese variety-show meme figure who's inspired countless fan remix tracks.)
20AnonymousSep 15, 2026 18:12
That trend of making recent songs sound like they're from the Showa era has taken off lately — that's got to be a copyright problem, right? (Showa era: 1926–1989.)
25AnonymousSep 15, 2026 18:21
Something like 'Tsugunai' (Atonement) would be absolutely impossible for AI. Same with 'Remon' (Lemon), 'Kasokudo' (Acceleration), 'Tobiume,' 'Mahoroba,' 'Tsuyu no Atosaki' — no way AI touches those either. (All classic Sada Masashi songs.)
26AnonymousSep 15, 2026 18:21
Re: #12
Maybe the philosophy is… in the prompt.
27AnonymousSep 15, 2026 18:23
Realistically, even humans can't write that many good songs either.
28AnonymousSep 15, 2026 18:24
The music being AI is fine, but since the lyrics are still human-written, some of them are clearly amateurish. Wish an AI would show up that writes and fixes lyrics too.
39AnonymousSep 15, 2026 18:32
Re: #28
Humans can already barely beat AI at senryu and tanka, so it should be able to do that too. (Senryu/tanka: short-form Japanese poetry.)
29AnonymousSep 15, 2026 18:25
You get lyrics with such clunky phrasing you can't even focus on the song.
32AnonymousSep 15, 2026 18:26
There's surely know-how to writing lyrics too.
36AnonymousSep 15, 2026 18:29
Honestly I think AI is crazy good at literature and philosophy lol
47AnonymousSep 15, 2026 18:40
Re: #36
You're better at trolling than AI is. Current AI can't even judge the right number of 'w's to use. ('w' is Japanese net shorthand for laughter, like a string of 'lol's.)

Background and points of contention

Sada Masashi debuted in 1976, and his comment reflects the gut feeling of a creator with nearly 50 years in the business — it wasn’t meant as a blanket dismissal of AI technology itself. Where the thread split was over how to interpret the word “philosophy”: one camp argued listeners don’t need it at all, while another countered that prompt engineering and parameter tuning can push AI output closer to a human style — a fair point given how much a generative AI’s direction can shift based on its instructions. Others pointed to Sada’s own signature songs, like “Tsugunai,” as lyrics rooted in specific lived experience and historical context that AI can’t easily replicate — which is really more a question of where the source material comes from than whether “philosophy” is present. Note that comments amounting to personal attacks on Sada’s talent or track record have been excluded from this roundup.

*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “Sada Masashi on AI composition: “It actually makes pretty good stuff. It just doesn’t have philosophy in it.”

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