23-Year-Old Idol Left Speechless: ‘That’s Just Awful’ — Stunned to Learn What Heisei-Era ‘Ashii-kun’ and ‘Messhii-kun’ Really Meant

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Inukari Soya (23), a member of STARTO ENTERTAINMENT’s junior group “KEY TO LIT,” was stunned during a Heisei-era trivia segment on Fuji TV’s “Pokapoka” upon learning the meaning of “Ashii-kun” (a guy who chauffeurs women around) and “Messhii-kun” (a guy who treats women to meals), reacting with “That’s just too awful.” Guests Ozawa Shinju and Yada Akiko also appeared on the show. In the 5ch thread, posters old enough to remember that era chimed in with stories like “There was a ‘Mitsugu-kun’ too” and “That’s really what they were called back then,” while others were skeptical, asking “Isn’t this just an urban legend made up by the media?” — opinion was split.

23-year-old male idol says “That’s just awful,” reacting with anger after hearing the origin of the Heisei-era terms “Ashii-kun” and “Messhii-kun”

Inukari Soya (23), a member of STARTO ENTERTAINMENT’s junior group KEY TO LIT (“Kiteretsu”), appeared live on Fuji TV’s “Pokapoka” on the 3rd. There was a moment where he was floored by a Heisei-era buzzword.

On that day’s episode, actresses Ozawa Shinju and Yada Akiko appeared as guests for a quiz segment about things that were popular back in the Heisei era.

Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

What people said

3AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:02
So what about 'oshikatsu' then? (obsessively supporting your favorite idol/celebrity with time and money)
21AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:07
Re: #3
Back then he was called "Mitsugu-kun" (lit. "Mr. Provider")
20AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:07
Even back then people slammed it as shitty, didn't they?
22AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:07
Johnny's talent agency is way worse 😚
23AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:08
Uchan used to be the "Ashii/Messhii" guy for the female announcers, right? Moriguchi Hiroko said on "Ii Tomo" that she wanted one too.
24AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:08
However you slice it, that was pretty misogynistic toward men, if you ask me… though I bet people will deny that too.
26AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:08
Re: #21
There really were guys named "Mitsugu" (lit. "to provide/give") — wild name when you think about it now.
27AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:09
Re: #5
Atsushi's dad's name was Mitsugu lol
29AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:10
Doesn't that just mean people had more breathing room back then? It was a more prosperous era than now, after all.
30AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:10
So there were cases where the "Ashii-kun" got promoted to actual boyfriend, huh?
32AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:10
No point getting worked up over a custom that died out ages ago, is there? That's like complaining about the caste system from before the Edo period.
34AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:11
Re: #1
Guess values are gradually shifting toward gender equality.
35AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:11
The media just hyped it up — whether it ever actually existed is unclear.
40AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:13
"Ashii" and "Messhii" are basically urban legends.
41AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:14
Better than "papakatsu" or paid drinking dates, isn't it? (papakatsu = young women seeking money/gifts from older men)
60AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:27
Back when I was young, besides my actual boyfriend I also had an Ashii-kun, a Messhii-kun, and a Mitsugu-kun… sorry.
85AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:44
Re: #60
I bet plenty of people had them. Actually, regardless of era, there've always been people treated this way.
61AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:27
Honestly, even the guys back then couldn't figure each other out — like, if you knew you were just the "Ashii," why keep doing it?
83AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:43
Re: #61
There was also this subtle thing where being seen with a great-looking woman gave you status among your friends. Even as just the "Ashii" or "Messhii," getting called on by a woman everyone envied, and driving her around or walking with her in public, gave you a sense of superiority.
84AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:44
Know the background first — back then there was a genuinely massive gender pay gap — before you say stuff like that.
92AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:48
Re: #84
Ah, I see.
Still, makes you wonder what happened to all the Ashii/Messhii guys afterward.
Back then more people went to college in the Tokyo area than now, so maybe they moved back to their hometowns and got married locally?

Background and key points of this topic

“Ashii-kun” and “Messhii-kun” are slang terms said to have spread during Japan’s bubble economy era (late 1980s to early 1990s), describing a practice where women used men other than their actual boyfriend as a designated driver or designated treater-to-meals, respectively. Around the same time, the term “Mitsugu-kun” (“Mr. Provider”) also circulated. Back then the gender pay gap was far larger than today, and this trend — premised on men’s earning power — was something the media of the era enjoyed playing up for laughs. Within the thread, opinions are split over how much these terms reflected real practice versus how much was media exaggeration bordering on urban legend, with posters too young to have lived through that era voicing skepticism it was ever real. Worth flagging for readers who might otherwise assume this reflected “typical Japanese dating attitudes of the past”: it was really just a phenomenon the media of the time liked to spotlight, not a broad social norm.

※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Entertainment] 23-year-old male idol says “That’s just awful,” angered upon learning the meaning of the Heisei-era buzzwords “Ashii-kun” and “Messhii-kun”…“.

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