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The story
A thread appeared on 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyou G” board from a poster reporting that they had quit their neighborhood association and set up their own trash collection point out of pocket. In the poster’s area, neighborhood association membership apparently sits at only around 50%, and the thread saw a string of comments from residents saying things like “I pay the fee but won’t join,” along with pointed remarks about unexplained uses of membership fees and associations where members have even been arrested for embezzlement. On the other hand, some argued for the organization’s necessity, asking “without a neighborhood association, who handles upkeep and events in the area?” — leaving opinions split over both the rightness of quitting and the meaning of the neighborhood-association system itself.
What people said
② Maintenance
③ Cleaning
Who even needs a neighborhood association?
Same here, I'm not in one either.
Nobody cleans the collection point anyway, so since mine's pretty close I just do it myself voluntarily.
I take recyclables to the supermarket or wherever.
Already approved by the local government, lol
I'll be using that trash station.
Sure, go ahead.
I do pay the association fee, you know?
But I'm not joining the association, lol
They should just split the neighborhood association into a cheap 'trash only' plan and a regular plan with all the annoying backroom dealing.
Exactly this.
I don't want to deal with anything besides the trash.
so he went and complained to city hall, and ended up getting individual door-to-door collection set up just for his house.
Then everyone else thought "wait, quitting is way easier!" and left one after another until the whole association collapsed.
You've been reading too many web novels, lol (note: "web novel" refers to wish-fulfillment stories on sites like Shousetsuka ni Narou, where things conveniently work out)
That's right, you know? lol
Sounds like it'd get torn apart by crows and start stinking
Why call it a web novel? If everyone ends up better off, that's a happy ending for everyone
Then which neighborhood association was this?
Maybe the resident who managed it pulled out or something?
Maybe the land belongs to a private owner,
or cars have trouble getting in
I don't think destroying the local community is really the right thing to do, though
Does it really fall apart without a neighborhood association?
How do you maintain anything when there's no one managing it?
Without a neighborhood association, is there even a chance to socialize with people in your area?
And obviously the local events the association runs would disappear too.
That's right?
It's all out of my own pocket (every bit of it), lol
Newly built towns don't have that kind of thing.
That's the worst, lol
I don't get what you mean
How do you maintain a local community without a neighborhood association?
There's no one and no organization to hold it together.
Is there even a need to maintain it?
The fees just go toward the old geezers' drinking money, lol
They put out an itemized statement every year, and none of it goes to drinking.
About half goes as some kind of due paid up to the association's parent organization, and the rest goes to disaster-prep gear, stockpiles, and covering expenses for trash-pickup events.
So that 'due' is really the old geezers' travel expenses and drinking money, right! lol
It's only a few thousand yen, who cares
Is there really a neighborhood association out there still doing that kind of thing these days?
That kind of thing doesn't normally happen.
It's disclosed to members, and if it were happening it'd be a crime.
You just don't like how the money's being used, that's all.
Well, there was an association where someone actually got arrested for embezzlement, lol
Then that's fine then, lmao (note: "草" (grass) is 5ch slang for laughter, like repeated "lol")
Looks like you've been learning from the thread's posts and updating your delusions.
If it were actually true, something that huge, you'd have brought it up right at the start when the fee discussion began.
Background and Key Points of This Story
Neighborhood and town associations (chonaikai/jichikai) are voluntary organizations under the Local Autonomy Act, and leaving one is legally free. That said, the setup and management of trash collection points varies by municipality — in most cases the sites used are ones the association has registered with the local government, so whether the authorities will actually service a collection point someone who quit set up on their own comes down to the individual case. Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications surveys also show a long-term decline in neighborhood association membership, especially in urban areas, so the “50% membership rate” figure raised in the thread isn’t a particularly unusual outlier. The thread split between those who support quitting over concerns about opaque fees and management, and those worried about who’s left to maintain the community and run local events once no one’s in charge — both positions rooted in different values about how to weigh the role of the neighborhood association itself. The claim about an association having a member arrested for embezzlement refers to an individual case, and it should be noted that this doesn’t apply to all neighborhood associations.
*This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyou G) thread “I Quit My Neighborhood Association and Set Up My Own Trash Station Out of Pocket! WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW” (note: the repeated “W”s mimic laughter, similar to repeated “lol”).
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