Government Plans Tax Crackdown on Condo Flipping, Real Estate Investors Furious — 5ch: ‘They’re Just Profiting Off Other People’s Misery’

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The story

Reports that Japan’s Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism (MLIT) is considering tax reforms to curb speculative real estate deals like condo flipping have sparked backlash from property investors. The thread was divided over whether the regulations would actually bring prices down, and how much impact foreign buyers are really having on the market.

MLIT requests tax reform to curb speculative condo trading, aiming to rein in soaring real estate prices

This way to the meltdown

Source: x.com / Original post here

What people said

8AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:29
I mean, prices in places like Tokyo and Osaka have gone way too high.
9AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:29
I'm a real estate investor myself, but I'm in the rental business, so this doesn't touch me.
10AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:29
Interest rates are rising too, nobody's gonna buy real estate anymore.
Homebuilders are toast.
15AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:30
So does this mean real estate is about to get cheaper?
20AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:31
Re: #15
Honestly, it'll probably just stop the surge — it won't actually make prices drop
Building materials and labor costs aren't coming down
24AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:33
Re: #20
So it's not like rice, where it just stops selling and prices start dropping
Thanks ("サンガツ" = netspeak for "39" = thanks)
28AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:34
Re: #24
I think new-build prices won't drop, but flip/resale prices will
Since this only regulates short-term resales, after all
53AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:42
Re: #1

Average price of a used 70㎡ condo 😢


Tokyo: ¥120 million
Osaka: ¥52.64 million
Nagoya: ¥29.07 million
56AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:43
Re: #53
Going by this, Tokyo and central Osaka will probably see prices drop
59AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:45
Re: #53
Tokyo's stupidly expensive lol
60AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:45
Re: #53
Nagoya's way too cheap by comparison
58AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:45
Anyway, why do prices even go up that much in the first place
I get this stuff isn't always logical, but I can't understand people dropping ¥100 million on a tiny cramped house
66AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:46
Re: #58
Same thing happened during the bubble era
What's propping it up is the 'land myth' (the belief that land always rises in value)
That said, it's still cheap from a foreign buyer's perspective
Japanese take-home pay hasn't grown at all in 30 years, so having just condo prices double is brutal
67AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:47
Looked it up, and apparently Singapore, Canada, and Australia are doing similar things
Well, I guess housing for citizens comes first
70AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:47
Re: #67
Now just add regulations on foreign buyers too, please
83AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:54
Let's raise taxes on stocks too if you sell within 5 years
87AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:55
A lot of TV stations and anime studios make money off real estate too — is it really okay to pop the bubble?
Wouldn't it be better to just give subsidies to people who want to live somewhere but can't afford it?
99AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:02
Re: #87
TV stations can go under for all I care lol
103AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:03
Re: #87
That's office leasing, a different thing
90AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:57
Re: #86
Sounds like you've never been to a shareholders' meeting
93AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:58
Re: #90
Those things are just full of bored old people
94AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:59
Investment purely for flipping doesn't produce anything, so it is what it is
96AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:00
Re: #94
I'd say it generates a ton of demand and money though
98AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:02
Way too many people here just sound like bitter poor folks
If you know it's profitable, why not just do it yourself
If I had a lump sum of cash, I'd wanna do it too
104AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:03
Re: #98
Apparently if you're a civil servant you can do it even without a down payment
109AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:05
Re: #103
They're linked, so of course the office market is gonna be affected too
119AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:09
Re: #109
This just strengthens taxes on short-term capital gains from condo sales, so it won't affect office leasing — i.e., the landlord business
121AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:12
Mo-san
@murio1999
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4h
If they tackled the fact that foreigners can buy so easily first, that would help curb the condo price surge too.

Guess there are still people out there who think it's foreigners doing all the condo flipping
Even though MLIT's own statistics show foreign nationals' real estate purchases are only a few percent
124AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:14
Re: #121
Feels like the foreign buyer ratio would be high for real estate in central Tokyo specifically though
122AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:13
You just gotta actually manage the property you bought properly
The only ones who lose out are the scum who just flip it
128AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:17
Re: #122
That's not quite right either
If you seriously run a central Tokyo condo as a rental, the yield (rent ÷ purchase price) ends up around just 1%, so unless you're investing for capital gains, there's no real appeal
Flipping is a legitimate investment strategy on its own, but the gap from actual housing demand got way too extreme

Background and Key Points

Interest rates and building-material costs are the pieces of context missing from the thread, so let me make sure the closing commentary supplies them alongside the tax mechanics.

The regulation MLIT is weighing targets short-term capital gains on condominiums — Japan already taxes real estate profits at a steep rate (roughly 39% combined national and local tax) if a property is held under five years, versus about 20% for long-term holds; the reported reform would tighten this further specifically for flips, not for landlords who hold and rent. This distinction matters because Japan’s postwar “land myth” (土地神話), the belief that land values only rise, drove the original bubble economy of the late 1980s, and heavily leveraged short-term resales are a visible echo of that pattern, especially in Tokyo and Osaka, where used 70㎡ condo prices now average roughly ¥120 million and ¥52.6 million.

The thread’s real fault line wasn’t for-or-against the crackdown but whether it would lower prices at all. Several posters argued the reform only slows the pace of increases without reversing them, since construction material and labor costs are structurally elevated, not speculative — meaning new-build prices stay put while only resale/flip prices soften.

What outside readers will likely misread is the “foreign buyers are driving this” narrative that surfaces reflexively in these threads. A poster directly cited MLIT’s own data showing foreign nationals account for only a few percent of real estate purchases nationally, undercutting the instinct to blame overseas capital for the affordability crisis. The thread also surfaced, almost as an aside, the more structural culprit: rental yields on central Tokyo condos run around just 1%, meaning the properties make little sense as income-generating rentals and only “work” financially as bets on resale appreciation — which is precisely the behavior the tax reform is trying to discourage.

*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[LOL] Japanese Government: ‘We’re Regulating Condo Flipping’ → Investors Losing Their Minds wwwwwwwwwwwww”.

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