7-Eleven Franchisee: “Even Running Multiple Stores, Profit Doesn’t Reach ¥300K” — 5ch Reacts: “HQ Rakes It In Automatically, Owners Just Do the Grunt Work”

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The story

A post by a rookie 7-Eleven franchise owner airing grievances to headquarters on X (formerly Twitter) went viral on 5ch. Despite running multiple stores with average daily sales of 600,000 yen and a 31% gross margin in September, the owner said profit didn’t even reach 300,000 yen. It has long been pointed out that under convenience store franchise contracts, headquarters secures stable earnings through structures like royalty fees and the owner’s burden for discarded/expired goods, while owners see little increase in their take-home share even as they boost sales. The thread saw a stream of doubts about the power imbalance between headquarters and owners, and about the franchise structure itself, which locks in who benefits before the contract is even signed.

What people said

1AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:24
Rookie convenience store owner@CSV_OWNER
To 7-Eleven Headquarters,
My multiple stores' average daily sales in September were 600,000 yen with a 31% gross margin, and profit didn't even reach 300,000 yen.
5AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:33
Kind of like Daito Ken◯ (a real estate franchise notorious for one-sided contracts)
But starting a franchise is 100% on you
It's not "the sales rep tricked me!"
You're both businesses here
It's a battle of who cons who
6AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:36
That's about right
Good gig if you've got land, money, and time to spare
7AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:38
Every franchise works like this —
The moment HQ gets an owner to open a store, HQ already wins
The sales rep gets credit for landing another contract too

Once a single store opens, a certain level of sales is locked in
And the royalty fee, or whatever % of profit, comes in automatically
8AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:40
Owners are stuck with a bad contract from day one, so even if they work hard and boost sales, their cut doesn't grow

HQ rakes it in automatically
Owners just do the grunt work
If it were really that profitable, HQ would run every store itself

What even is an "owner" anyway, lol
Just a sole proprietor
Nothing more than a subcontractor for a giant corporation
9AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:44
If they'd just asked an AI beforehand, even clueless people could've avoided becoming an owner
If you're clueless about everything, of course you get taken advantage of
11AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:58
It's crazy to run multiple stores as a total rookie
13AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:02
Re: #10
A bit better than being a salaryman at a small/mid-size company
They're really threading that "keep you alive, but not too alive" line
14AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:05
The word "owner" is wild
I was taught it comes from "own" because you bear the responsibility
Whoever coined that term is something else
15AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:25
The 7-Eleven near me closed down too. It was in one of Tokyo's 23 wards and reasonably close to the station, but once a My Basket (a discount supermarket chain) opened nearby, everyone switched over there.
16AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:30
In short, it's protection money
HQ rakes it in risk-free
17AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:33
Probably the same at every major convenience store chain
Once an area becomes a convenience-store desert, I stop trusting them entirely and stop going
They'll ruthlessly shut down even a shop that's been a neighborhood fixture for 30-40 years
18AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:33
You don't see new convenience stores opening in the countryside anymore
Just a few years ago it was all 7-Eleven's dominant strategy (saturating an area with stores)
Five would pop up within walking distance
Now three of them have closed
19AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:36
I am Convenience Store
I shall erase every store around me
And in the end, erase myself too
21AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:42
Think about it logically
There's no way 7-Eleven HQ, or any franchise headquarters
Would hand over the kind of profit
That lets an owner's family build a new house
Drive around in a foreign car
And travel nonstop
23AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:45
I thought a 60% HQ cut was steep, but HQ covers your rent and utilities, right?
So just sleep in the store's back room and you won't need rent or utilities elsewhere
And that 300,000 yen in discarded/expired food loss is huge too
Eat the discarded bento and your food costs drop to zero
Not spending a cent on living expenses while banking your entire 6-million-yen-plus salary — that's huge
24AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:45
Because the customer of 7-Eleven HQ is the franchise owner
27AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:48
That's just how franchises work
HQ collects money just for lending its name, and after that it's all about how much profit the owner side can generate
If they can't turn a profit, the store just goes under
But it's not an employment contract
So it ends up being the owner's fault for signing it
28AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:49
If you don't like it, just quit — simple as that
HQ has nothing to do with it
The question is who decided to start this on their own
29AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:49
Because HQ opens company-owned stores right in an owner's store's trade area
30AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:50
If it were really that profitable, wouldn't 7-Eleven just run it themselves?
Why hand a profitable deal over to some clueless kid who doesn't know any better?
That's the basics of exploitation
33AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:51
Re: #30
They get an owner to open a store, and once it's clear "this spot makes money!"
HQ swoops in and opens a company-owned store to crush the owner's shop
31AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:50
At some point convenience stores became a business built on luring in and crushing hopeful owners
32AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:51
There are a ton of 7-Elevens near me
34AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:51
"Dear Owner! Dear Owner!"

There are probably quite a few people who get a kick out of being called that
35AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:52
In rural areas, 7-Eleven and other convenience stores keep opening new locations, but barely any ever close
36AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:53
Same scheme as apartment investment scams
40AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:01
It's about that time of year they make you buy Christmas cakes (store staff pressured to buy unsold holiday stock themselves)
41AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:06
Isn't this the story where, years ago, someone pitched the Japanese-style convenience store business model in the US and was told that doing this in America would get HQ sued into bankruptcy?
42AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:07
The stuff they sell is cheap per item, so it must be tough to turn a profit
43AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:08
The US has about 12,000 7-Eleven stores
44AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:09
For HQ, it's a win as long as a rival store's sales drop
45AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:11
A franchise is just a legal pyramid scheme
46AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:18
From a consumer's point of view, 7-Eleven should sell stuff at half price before tossing out a ton of expired product
7-Eleven stubbornly refuses to discount, though
48AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:18
So does that mean the stores that have survived for years without going under are all company-owned, not franchises?
51AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:26
There's a 7-Eleven on a two-lane prefectural road with decent traffic
Customers are lined up but the staff just stand around dazed, the fried food case is almost always empty even when it's nowhere near midnight
Even in winter they're often out of meat buns too — way too little motivation
52AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:29
It's in a residential area about 2km from Gifu Station
A store opened there and became a huge hit maybe over a decade ago, back when there were probably only five 7-Elevens in the whole city
Now it's dead quiet
The bento, onigiri, and bread are priced so high that regular people can't afford them anymore
54AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:30
Only now? People were already calling it a red ocean (an oversaturated, cutthroat market) 20 years ago

Background and key points of this discussion

In convenience store franchises, the way royalty fees paid to headquarters and the cost of discarded/expired goods are structured can heavily determine a store’s profit — so much so that even with identical sales, the profit left over can end up barely changing, or barely existing, from store to store. Japan’s Fair Trade Commission has previously flagged issues such as headquarters restricting markdown sales of near-expiry items and the abuse of a dominant position at contract renewal time, and the power imbalance between HQ and owners has long been a social issue. Opinions in the thread split between those who say that once you’ve signed the contract, the outcome is on you, and those who question the franchise contract structure itself for favoring headquarters from the start. A daily sales figure of 600,000 yen might look like plenty of revenue on its own, but once HQ royalty fees, labor costs, and losses from discarded goods are subtracted, the profit that remains can be razor-thin — a detail the raw sales number alone doesn’t convey.

※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “7-Eleven Owner: “My multiple stores’ average daily sales in September were 600,000 yen with a 31% gross margin, and profit didn’t even reach 300,000 yen. There’s no way to recover the initial investment, right?”“

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