Console vs. PC Power Bill Debate Divides 5ch: ‘Guys Still Living in Their Childhood Bedroom Don’t Get Electricity Costs’

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On 5ch’s Hardware/Industry (Geha) board, a thread titled “It’s wrong that consoles are better value just because of ‘paid online’ or overall cost-effectiveness” blew up after someone replied with “Let me introduce you to: ‘electricity bills.’” The original post calculated the Nintendo Switch 2’s power draw at about 20W versus a gaming PC’s 300W, putting the difference at roughly ¥8.68 per hour — which adds up to over ¥6,000 a year if used 2 hours a day. The thread saw a flood of pushback over whether the math ignored online subscription fees and whether assuming a 300W power supply was even reasonable, and the debate never really settled.

What people said

1AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:08
Idiot: "???"
2AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:10
This is for real
Guys still living in their childhood bedroom have no concept of electricity bills
11AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:21
Re: #2
Seriously, this is exactly the problem
3AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:13
【Switch 2 vs. 300W Gaming PC Electricity Cost Comparison】
(*Calculated at a rate of ¥31/kWh)

■ Cost per hour
・Switch 2 (approx. 20W): approx. ¥0.62
・Gaming PC (300W): approx. ¥9.30
(Difference: approx. ¥8.68/hour — the PC costs about 15x more)

■ Annual cost and difference by usage pattern
① 2 hours daily (approx. 730 hours/year)
・Switch 2: approx. ¥453
・Gaming PC: approx. ¥6,789
・Difference: approx. ¥6,336/year

② 4 hours daily (approx. 1,460 hours/year)
・Switch 2: approx. ¥905
・Gaming PC: approx. ¥13,578
・Difference: approx. ¥12,673/year

③ 5 hours, weekends only (approx. 260 hours/year)
・Switch 2: approx. ¥161
・Gaming PC: approx. ¥2,418
・Difference: approx. ¥2,257/year
31AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:40
Re: #3
How much electricity does a PS5 actually use?
4AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:16
So basically you just need to own both a Switch 2 and a PC
5AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:16
It's not that much money, and paid online doesn't bother me either
I don't even use Game Pass but I'm still paying for a subscription
6AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:17
If you're the type who cares this much about electricity bills, don't even buy games in the first place
19AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:26
Do 300W power supplies even exist?
24AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:31
Re: #19
If the target power draw is 300W, isn't it normal to put in a 600W+ power supply?
25AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:35
Re: #24
That's outdated knowledge from back when PSUs were garbage
Back then a '600W' unit often only had around 400W of real capacity, so that was true
These days if it says 600W, you actually get 600W, so you don't need that much extra headroom
Classic mistake from someone whose knowledge is stuck in the past
27AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:38
Re: #25
>These days if it says 600W, you actually get 600W, so you don't need that much extra headroom
LOL that's absolute nonsense
36AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:46
Re: #27
What's nonsense about it? I just said the rated spec is actually accurate 😁
Are you seriously claiming there's no way a PSU could actually hit its rated spec!? 😡🤔
28AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:38
For some reason this is only comparing electricity costs
why isn't the online subscription fee factored in?
Include that and the gap gets smaller
and for PlayStation it'd probably flip the other way, right? lol
33AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:41
Re: #28
Because it's not mandatory
39AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:54
The reason Steam is still a 'small' company is that it can't charge for online play
If Steam ever started charging for online, its market cap would skyrocket
It'd end up as big as Netflix
40AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:56
Re: #39
Wouldn't people just flock to Epic or the MS Store instead?
…well, maybe not the MS Store
42AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:58
Wait, isn't #14 correct? Why's everyone jumping on it?
60AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:27
Re: #42
I've never even seen a gaming PC with a 300W power supply
43AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:59
Re: #7
That's beside the point
The point is, if you're at an income level where you have to worry about a game's electricity cost, you shouldn't be buying games in the first place
46AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:03
Re: #43
At the very least, that kind of talk only flies in Japan where electricity is cheap
Overseas, electricity costs an order of magnitude more and keeps climbing, so a gaming PC's power bill actually hits households hard
47AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:05
Isn't it normal to use a bigger PSU than you need, to account for degradation over time?
49AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:10
Re: #47
Even accounting for degradation, you don't need double capacity these days
Nowadays 1.2 to 1.5x is plenty of margin
59AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:27
Hold on, is the Switch 2's power draw of 20W even accurate?
62AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:33
Re: #59
That's about right when docked
In handheld mode it's more like 10W
67AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:44
Re: #59
2 hours of play costs 1 yen in electricity
That's insane, right?
65AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:39
People arguing about this stuff probably don't even own a watt meter
66AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:40
Re: #65
Show us your watt meter then
70AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:48
Electricity bill? How much does a PS5 actually cost to run again?
80AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:09
Re: #70
The PS5 should cost more in electricity than the Switch 2
79AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:08
Whether it's a gaming PC or a console
you're not running it at max power draw 24/7
83AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:32
Re: #79
There are occasionally people who see a PC's PSU wattage rating and assume it's constantly drawing that much power
81AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:30
Re: #67
That's impressive
Honestly, for Japanese games that max out at FHD 60fps anyway, the Switch 2 might be fine instead of a PC
82AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:31
Re: #81
There's no such game, and choosing the downgraded version on low-spec hardware like the Switch 2 would be stupid
90AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:43
Re: #82
Nah, if you exclude AAA titles, Japanese games tend to run at low internal resolutions anyway
91AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:49
Re: #90
No, even Japanese games mostly hit 4K on the PC version
84AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:33
If you're trying to save power on a PC, doesn't that defeat the whole point of having one?
86AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:36
Re: #84
Why would that defeat the point?

Background and Key Points of This Debate

Playing online with a home console typically requires an annual subscription fee, such as Nintendo Switch Online or PlayStation Plus, whereas on PC, platforms like Steam often don’t charge extra for online play itself. The “cost-effectiveness” argument that kicked off this thread was pointing at that gap, but the electricity cost calculation in the original post fixed the PC’s power draw at a flat 300W, without noting that actual consumption varies widely depending on the game and the PC’s components. Electricity rates themselves also vary by contract, region, and time of day, so the ¥31/kWh figure used here is just one rough benchmark. Commenters in the thread raised points about factoring in online subscription costs and pushed back on how the power supply capacity was being calculated, suggesting this isn’t really a topic that can be settled with a simple numbers comparison.

*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry [Geha]) thread “Idiot: ‘It’s wrong that consoles are cost-effective just because of paid online!’ Me: ‘Electricity bills’.”

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