A survey asking people what gender they’d want their ideal child to be found that 82% of women and 54% of men said “girl” — and the result is stirring up debate on 5ch’s “Whatever Live” (なんでも実況G) board.
In the thread, some pointed to boys’ higher risk of autism and illness, a harsher competitive society waiting for them, and the fact that fathers rarely win custody in a divorce. Others pushed back with “boys are cuter when they’re little” and “plenty of mothers end up doting on their sons anyway,” leaving the thread split.
Downsides of having a boy
4x the risk of autism compared to girls
2x the risk of developmental disorders compared to girls
More prone to illness than girls up until age 5
Higher aggression
Sexual urges start kicking in around age 3
6x more likely to become a criminal than girls
Gets thrown straight into a brutal competitive society the moment he's out in the world
4x the risk of autism compared to girls
2x the risk of developmental disorders compared to girls
More prone to illness than girls up until age 5
Higher aggression
Sexual urges start kicking in around age 3
6x more likely to become a criminal than girls
Gets thrown straight into a brutal competitive society the moment he's out in the world
>>14
Can't help the sex drive thing —
it kicks in instinctively even with zero "education" involved
Can't help the sex drive thing —
it kicks in instinctively even with zero "education" involved
>>14
Way too many flaws on this list
Way too many flaws on this list
Isn't this basically just saying "girls have it easy"?
>>18
If you're actually going to have a kid you love,
you'd want them to have it easy in life, right?
Nobody wants their kid stuck with the higher suicide rate
If you're actually going to have a kid you love,
you'd want them to have it easy in life, right?
Nobody wants their kid stuck with the higher suicide rate
>>18
Unless a guy's blessed with real talent, he's pretty much guaranteed a life spent in the competitive rat race
Unless a guy's blessed with real talent, he's pretty much guaranteed a life spent in the competitive rat race
>>18
That's just reality though —
the suicide and homelessness gender gap is brutal
That's just reality though —
the suicide and homelessness gender gap is brutal
Income gaps still exist, sure, but women can support themselves fine these days, so if there's a divorce, the mother's way more likely to win custody — meaning as a man, you risk losing your own grandkids too
>>31
Plus there's always the chance the kid isn't even yours (托卵 — 5ch slang for a wife passing off another man's child as her husband's)
Plus there's always the chance the kid isn't even yours (托卵 — 5ch slang for a wife passing off another man's child as her husband's)
Honestly, men as a concept just don't fit this era anymore
It's supposed to be a time that values the individual, but biologically men still get devalued
and you end up living inside that contradiction
It's supposed to be a time that values the individual, but biologically men still get devalued
and you end up living inside that contradiction
>>33
Ending that devaluation is supposed to be what real gender equality and political correctness are about,
but I guess people are only ever this shallow in the end
Ending that devaluation is supposed to be what real gender equality and political correctness are about,
but I guess people are only ever this shallow in the end
>>33
Bluntly put, we've had 80-plus years of peace so men are oversupplied and their value has cratered
If a war ever cut the male population in half, men's value would skyrocket
and we'd slide back into a prewar-style patriarchal society
Bluntly put, we've had 80-plus years of peace so men are oversupplied and their value has cratered
If a war ever cut the male population in half, men's value would skyrocket
and we'd slide back into a prewar-style patriarchal society
Boy babies fail the "gacha" 40% of the time (ガチャ — slang borrowed from mobile-game loot draws, used here for the luck of the draw on what kid you get), and when the roll goes bad there's no floor to how bad it gets
Doesn't matter how sensible or rich the parents are, sometimes the whole family goes down together
With a girl you're basically guaranteed at least a passable life, and she won't drag everyone else down with her
Doesn't matter how sensible or rich the parents are, sometimes the whole family goes down together
With a girl you're basically guaranteed at least a passable life, and she won't drag everyone else down with her
Boys having a way higher autism rate than girls is rough
>>50
Not sure about developmental disorders, but autism often happens from too much testosterone in the womb, so it naturally skews male
Not sure about developmental disorders, but autism often happens from too much testosterone in the womb, so it naturally skews male
>>48
Women can earn their own money now so they don't need a man's income, and men can get by fine without much life skill thanks to appliances and delivery services — the give-and-take is broken regardless of whether it's peacetime or not
Women can earn their own money now so they don't need a man's income, and men can get by fine without much life skill thanks to appliances and delivery services — the give-and-take is broken regardless of whether it's peacetime or not
>>63
Isn't the "broken give-and-take" really just that women earn now but still won't support a man in return?
Isn't the "broken give-and-take" really just that women earn now but still won't support a man in return?
Boys turn out like this 40% of the time
Mothers and daughters hang out like they're best friends, so whether the kid's a girl or boy completely flips what the mom gets out of it
Fathers don't bond with sons nearly as intensely by comparison, so it swings the outcome less for them
Fathers don't bond with sons nearly as intensely by comparison, so it swings the outcome less for them
>>77
People always say dads want to play catch with their sons, but good luck finding a park these days where you're even allowed to
Also, you don't actually have to play catch
People always say dads want to play catch with their sons, but good luck finding a park these days where you're even allowed to
Also, you don't actually have to play catch
If this is really true, the birth rate's only going to keep sinking
Say all this and the kid women end up doting on is still usually the son
Think about it
a daughter is basically a much younger woman with your own traits
that's some serious same-type aversion right there
Think about it
a daughter is basically a much younger woman with your own traits
that's some serious same-type aversion right there
>>96
You don't know any women? Plenty of grown women still go on overseas trips with their parents
You don't know any women? Plenty of grown women still go on overseas trips with their parents
>>97
There are tons of women out there griping that their little (or big) brother gets favored way more than they do
There are tons of women out there griping that their little (or big) brother gets favored way more than they do
>>101
It's only natural parents put more into a son's education
that's just a separate issue
It's only natural parents put more into a son's education
that's just a separate issue
I've got one son and honestly I'd want the next one to be a boy too
My wife says she wants a girl, but raising a daughter sounds boring
My wife says she wants a girl, but raising a daughter sounds boring
>>103
Boys are cuter when they're little
but thinking about old age, a daughter's hard to give up too
Boys are cuter when they're little
but thinking about old age, a daughter's hard to give up too
Women are supposed to think men have it easier in life, so this result doesn't add up
1. They secretly believe women actually have it easier
2. They don't care how the kid's life turns out as long as they get to dote on them
Isn't it gotta be one of those two?
1. They secretly believe women actually have it easier
2. They don't care how the kid's life turns out as long as they get to dote on them
Isn't it gotta be one of those two?
>>107
But you don't even have a wife…
But you don't even have a wife…
>>107
It's because a daughter doubles as a friend
that's the big one
It's because a daughter doubles as a friend
that's the big one
There's more upside to raising a boy honestly
High risk, high reward
High risk, high reward
>>111
Guys aren't exactly driven to support their parents, kind of detached about it, so the upside's thin
Guys aren't exactly driven to support their parents, kind of detached about it, so the upside's thin
You have no idea what despair feels like until a family thrilled about their first girl gets a second girl too
>>124
So real
that "we'd like at least one boy" mindset
So real
that "we'd like at least one boy" mindset
But scroll through Instagram and plenty of moms are seen doting hard on their sons
>>130
That's because it's the "winning" moms (まんさん — mildly dismissive 5ch slang for women) who post on Instagram
A daughter risks taking after the dad and turning out plain, but looks matter way less for a boy
That's because it's the "winning" moms (まんさん — mildly dismissive 5ch slang for women) who post on Instagram
A daughter risks taking after the dad and turning out plain, but looks matter way less for a boy
What even is the "ideal" here? There are plenty of decent guys out there, and my own parents don't seem to dislike me either
>>133
But by far the most common answer is wanting both a boy and a girl
But by far the most common answer is wanting both a boy and a girl
This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (“Whatever Live”) thread “[Sad News] “82% of Women, 54% of Men” End Up Naming a Girl as Their Ideal Child’s Gender…“.
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