A discussion on 5ch has taken up the question of whether skipping payment after winning a Hello! Project fan club birthday event lottery—and then not showing up—affects your odds in future lotteries. Some users shared experiences like still winning normally even after forgetting to pay once or twice a year, while others reported that after winning duplicate tickets through two different fan clubs and letting one payment lapse, they stopped winning lotteries for a while afterward. Commenters also warned against paying via convenience store, and expressed hope that a future shift to e-tickets might finally allow for proper cancellations.
So how does this actually work?
Not just for birthday events, but I forget to pay once or twice a year and still win normally.
>>4
Guess other people forget too.
I've ghosted on Fortune (a separate ticket-lottery service) before.
But this is an FC (official fan club) event, so it's scary.
Guess other people forget too.
I've ghosted on Fortune (a separate ticket-lottery service) before.
But this is an FC (official fan club) event, so it's scary.
Instant bans are basically only for the viewing/studio-audience type events—
the ones that involve outside parties.
the ones that involve outside parties.
>>18
But they wouldn't actually know if you just skipped, right?
Do they even take attendance?
But they wouldn't actually know if you just skipped, right?
Do they even take attendance?
I once made a mistake applying for a points seat and emailed asking to cancel it. Sekino (fan club staff) actually called me back and said they could cancel it, but that I'd get some kind of penalty going forward—then asked what I wanted to do. I gratefully said I'd just attend after all and apologized.
>>20
That's actually really considerate of them, telling you that and giving you the choice.
That's actually really considerate of them, telling you that and giving you the choice.
Can't be helped, I just can't go anymore—
and I haven't paid yet either.
and I haven't paid yet either.
>>25
Then put in a cancellation.
Ghosting on it is the worst.
Then put in a cancellation.
Ghosting on it is the worst.
I keep telling myself I'll seriously think it through after winning, but I end up ghosting a lot.
>>28
Oh really? Then maybe it's fine?
Oh really? Then maybe it's fine?
Guess we just have to take the posts in >>28 and >>38 at face value.
Once you win a birthday event lottery, you can't cancel, right?
>>29
As long as you don't pay via convenience store.
As long as you don't pay via convenience store.
Well, once it eventually switches to e-tickets, resale and cancellation should both become possible.
>>36
For resale they'll probably push credit card payment more.
For resale they'll probably push credit card payment more.
Tons of people end up unable to go after winning, it happens all the time.
Just don't pay, that's it.
Then it opens up as second-round entries and day-of tickets.
Just don't pay, that's it.
Then it opens up as second-round entries and day-of tickets.
>>38
I already got the payment number notice though.
So I just… don't act on it?
I already got the payment number notice though.
So I just… don't act on it?
You can't pay money for something you can't even go to.
There's no cancellation option, so that really is the only way.
There's no cancellation option, so that really is the only way.
>>43
Right, that really is the only option.
Right, that really is the only option.
Since there's no resale system right now, I'm in the camp that says if you can't go before you've paid, there's no need to force yourself to pay anyway.
>>60
Same here, but in that case I do worry about what happens down the line.
I ghost on Fortune all the time,
but when it's the FC itself… that's a different story.
Same here, but in that case I do worry about what happens down the line.
I ghost on Fortune all the time,
but when it's the FC itself… that's a different story.
I've ghosted on payments—well, forgotten, really—about once every 2-3 years over the past 15 years, and I haven't hit a penalty yet.
That's with roughly 50 events a year.
That's with roughly 50 events a year.
>>67
Maybe if you go to a ton of events it's fine.
Maybe if you go to a ton of events it's fine.
It's Friday.
Better hurry up and apologize to Sekky (fan club staff nickname) before it's too late.
Better hurry up and apologize to Sekky (fan club staff nickname) before it's too late.
>>68
At this hour they might already be asleep.
At this hour they might already be asleep.
Unless you're doing it every single time or being really malicious about it, you're probably fine.
>>69
This is my first time, but then again I barely apply through the FC to begin with.
I mostly just buy from resellers.
Through the FC itself, it's really just the May Nagano birthday event and the Angerme Osaka/Aichi shows.
This is my first time, but then again I barely apply through the FC to begin with.
I mostly just buy from resellers.
Through the FC itself, it's really just the May Nagano birthday event and the Angerme Osaka/Aichi shows.
I applied for an M-Hallo event through both the M-line and the Hello! Project FC, and shockingly won both.
Obviously I couldn't pay for the same event twice, so I had no choice but to let one payment lapse—and after that I stopped winning lotteries for a while.
Obviously I couldn't pay for the same event twice, so I had no choice but to let one payment lapse—and after that I stopped winning lotteries for a while.
>>70
Whose M-Hallo (event) did that happen with?
For me the agency always coordinates M-Hallo entries every time.
Was this last year?
Whose M-Hallo (event) did that happen with?
For me the agency always coordinates M-Hallo entries every time.
Was this last year?
>>70
Sounds like poor coordination between the two FCs.
They probably don't even post a warning about it, right?
Sounds like poor coordination between the two FCs.
They probably don't even post a warning about it, right?
>>81
An anti of some other idol group posing as a fan?
For M-Hallo, even if you fully apply through both Hello! Project and the M-line, they coordinate behind the scenes so you don't end up winning both.
>>70 is probably an agency anti self-posting.
They're dodging >>80 instead of answering it, too.
An anti of some other idol group posing as a fan?
For M-Hallo, even if you fully apply through both Hello! Project and the M-line, they coordinate behind the scenes so you don't end up winning both.
>>70 is probably an agency anti self-posting.
They're dodging >>80 instead of answering it, too.
Convenience store payment specifically is a no-go.
That routes you through a system outside of Up-Front (the talent agency), separate from the usual one.
The penalty for that is severe.
That routes you through a system outside of Up-Front (the talent agency), separate from the usual one.
The penalty for that is severe.
>>79
I wonder if the agency still has to pay a system fee per transaction even when a fan ghosts on payment.
I wonder if the agency still has to pay a system fee per transaction even when a fan ghosts on payment.
>>79 whoa, that's bad.
Birthday events are convenience-store payment only for regular members though…
Oh no…
Birthday events are convenience-store payment only for regular members though…
Oh no…
*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread「If You Apply for a Birthday Event and Ghost on the Payment, Will You Be Barred From Applying Next Time?」.
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