Ghosted on a Fan Club Birthday Event Payment—Will You Get Blacklisted From Future Lotteries? 5ch Users Share Their Stories

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The story

A discussion on 5ch has taken up the question of whether skipping payment after winning a Hello! Project fan club birthday event lottery—and then not showing up—affects your odds in future lotteries. Some users shared experiences like still winning normally even after forgetting to pay once or twice a year, while others reported that after winning duplicate tickets through two different fan clubs and letting one payment lapse, they stopped winning lotteries for a while afterward. Commenters also warned against paying via convenience store, and expressed hope that a future shift to e-tickets might finally allow for proper cancellations.

What people said

1AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:44
So how does this actually work?
4AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:46
Not just for birthday events, but I forget to pay once or twice a year and still win normally.
14AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:53
Re: #4
Guess other people forget too.
I've ghosted on Fortune (a separate ticket-lottery service) before.
But this is an FC (official fan club) event, so it's scary.
18AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:56
Instant bans are basically only for the viewing/studio-audience type events—
the ones that involve outside parties.
21AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:58
Re: #18
But they wouldn't actually know if you just skipped, right?
Do they even take attendance?
20AnonymousAug 21, 2026 15:57
I once made a mistake applying for a points seat and emailed asking to cancel it. Sekino (fan club staff) actually called me back and said they could cancel it, but that I'd get some kind of penalty going forward—then asked what I wanted to do. I gratefully said I'd just attend after all and apologized.
27AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:02
Re: #20
That's actually really considerate of them, telling you that and giving you the choice.
25AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:01
Can't be helped, I just can't go anymore—
and I haven't paid yet either.
26AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:02
Re: #25
Then put in a cancellation.
Ghosting on it is the worst.
28AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:05
I keep telling myself I'll seriously think it through after winning, but I end up ghosting a lot.
35AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:09
Re: #28
Oh really? Then maybe it's fine?
52AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:17
Guess we just have to take the posts in Re: #28 and Re: #38 at face value.
29AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:05
Once you win a birthday event lottery, you can't cancel, right?
30AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:07
Re: #29
As long as you don't pay via convenience store.
36AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:09
Well, once it eventually switches to e-tickets, resale and cancellation should both become possible.
44AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:14
Re: #36
For resale they'll probably push credit card payment more.
38AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:10
Tons of people end up unable to go after winning, it happens all the time.
Just don't pay, that's it.
Then it opens up as second-round entries and day-of tickets.
45AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:14
Re: #38
I already got the payment number notice though.
So I just… don't act on it?
43AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:13
You can't pay money for something you can't even go to.
There's no cancellation option, so that really is the only way.
47AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:15
Re: #43
Right, that really is the only option.
60AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:20
Since there's no resale system right now, I'm in the camp that says if you can't go before you've paid, there's no need to force yourself to pay anyway.
63AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:21
Re: #60
Same here, but in that case I do worry about what happens down the line.
I ghost on Fortune all the time,
but when it's the FC itself… that's a different story.
67AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:22
I've ghosted on payments—well, forgotten, really—about once every 2-3 years over the past 15 years, and I haven't hit a penalty yet.
That's with roughly 50 events a year.
116AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:44
Re: #67
Maybe if you go to a ton of events it's fine.
68AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:22
It's Friday.
Better hurry up and apologize to Sekky (fan club staff nickname) before it's too late.
71AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:23
Re: #68
At this hour they might already be asleep.
69AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:22
Unless you're doing it every single time or being really malicious about it, you're probably fine.
118AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:46
Re: #69
This is my first time, but then again I barely apply through the FC to begin with.
I mostly just buy from resellers.
Through the FC itself, it's really just the May Nagano birthday event and the Angerme Osaka/Aichi shows.
70AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:23
I applied for an M-Hallo event through both the M-line and the Hello! Project FC, and shockingly won both.
Obviously I couldn't pay for the same event twice, so I had no choice but to let one payment lapse—and after that I stopped winning lotteries for a while.
80AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:26
Re: #70
Whose M-Hallo (event) did that happen with?
For me the agency always coordinates M-Hallo entries every time.
Was this last year?
81AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:27
Re: #70
Sounds like poor coordination between the two FCs.
They probably don't even post a warning about it, right?
93AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:33
Re: #81
An anti of some other idol group posing as a fan?
For M-Hallo, even if you fully apply through both Hello! Project and the M-line, they coordinate behind the scenes so you don't end up winning both.
Re: #70 is probably an agency anti self-posting.
They're dodging Re: #80 instead of answering it, too.
79AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:25
Convenience store payment specifically is a no-go.
That routes you through a system outside of Up-Front (the talent agency), separate from the usual one.
The penalty for that is severe.
84AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:28
Re: #79
I wonder if the agency still has to pay a system fee per transaction even when a fan ghosts on payment.
90AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:32
Re: #79 whoa, that's bad.
Birthday events are convenience-store payment only for regular members though…
Oh no…

Background and Key Points

Hello! Project is Up-Front Works’ idol umbrella label, home to groups like Morning Musume and Angerme, and its official fan clubs (FC) run their own ticket lotteries for members’ birthday events, separate from general public sales or resale platforms like the “Fortune” service mentioned in the thread. In Japan’s idol-FC ecosystem there is traditionally no built-in cancellation or resale mechanism once you win a lottery slot — you either pay by the deadline or you don’t, and payment is frequently restricted to convenience-store terminals, which route through a third-party settlement system outside Up-Front’s own infrastructure rather than a simple in-house transaction.

The thread didn’t converge on an answer. Posters describe years of occasionally missing payments — even dozens of times across a decade of heavy attendance — with no visible consequence, which is the majority experience reported. But at least one poster claims that after accidentally double-winning the same M-Hallo event through two different FC channels and letting one lapse, their luck dried up afterward — a claim other posters immediately contested, suggesting cross-FC coordination is supposed to prevent duplicate wins in the first place and hinting the story may not be genuine.

What outsiders likely miss is that “no cancellation” isn’t strictly true: one poster describes FC staff manually canceling an entry over a phone call, with a warning about future consequences — a discretionary, person-to-person fix that contradicts the broader assumption that ghosting is the only option. The thread also never explains that convenience-store payments may cost Up-Front a processing fee even on a no-show, which is likely why that payment method carries the harshest unofficial penalty.

*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread「If You Apply for a Birthday Event and Ghost on the Payment, Will You Be Barred From Applying Next Time?」.

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