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  • Goodbye, Hensachi: By 2050, 1 in 2 Japanese Students Will Get Into a National or Elite Private University

    According to a Nikkei series, Japan’s shrinking birthrate is expected to cut the number of university applicants by 30% by 2050, down to roughly 420,000 people. If enrollment quotas stay where they are now, that works out to 1 in 2 students being able to get into a national/public university or an elite private university. The estimate sparked debate on 5ch’s News Speed+ board: some worried about falling academic standards (“even idiots will get into top schools now”), while others pushed back, arguing “the bar at elite schools itself won’t change” and “universities will just scoop up top students from Japan and abroad.” Many posts agreed that the hensachi (standardized deviation score used to rank Japanese students) is losing meaning as a yardstick, with opinions diverging mainly on how to judge what comes after it.

    Portrait of a Nation of 100 Million

    By 2050, universities may no longer be chosen by hensachi score. The number of university applicants is projected to fall 30% to 420,000. Under current enrollment quotas, that would mean 1 in 2 students gets into a private or national/public university considered “elite.” Japan has long been called a credentialist society — will a new yardstick for evaluating universities emerge?

    “The race to lock down top students will only accelerate. We’ve already entered an era where you can’t coast on brand name alone,” says a worried executive at a major private university in the Kansai region. Competition is already intensifying on the ground…(continued in the paid edition)

    Source: nikkei.com / Original article here

    5AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:10
    Things were better back when the enrollment rate was around 30%.

    These days any idiot can go to college.
    155AnonymousSep 6, 2026 09:04
    "Re: #5
    Make it easy to get in but hard to graduate.
    Charge held-back students through the nose in tuition.
    That would actually raise the whole country's academic level.
    214AnonymousSep 6, 2026 09:15
    "Re: #5
    Sure, a genuine bottom-tier "F-rank" school (slang for the lowest, virtually open-admission tier of universities) will take anyone and they're full of idiots, but people who get into prestigious universities are still just as sharp as ever.
    There's still an academic-pedigree filter at hiring, and an F-rank degree gets treated about the same as a high school diploma, so the distinction still holds.
    7AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:11
    So even idiots will get a free pass into Kyoto University and Tokyo University now…
    This country really is finished ☺
    168AnonymousSep 6, 2026 09:06
    "Re: #7
    Not you though lol
    12AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:12
    Even Showa-era high school grads are gonna start acting smug about it lol
    conveniently forgetting how fierce competition was back when the population was growing.
    36AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:20
    "Re: #12
    Showa 63 is 1988.
    Those guys will mostly be old geezers by 2050.
    14AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:13
    Well, it's the declining birthrate.
    F-rank schools will probably be shutting down within a few years.
    21AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:17
    "Re: #14
    F-rank schools are already closing here and there, but wiping them all out won't happen in just a few years.
    That'll take more like a decade or several decades.
    17AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:14
    Nobody's going to bother studying in the age of AGI.
    23AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:17
    So who's actually going to hire them?
    Company W would rather hire foreigners than dim-witted Japanese grads.
    35AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:20
    The reason Japan hasn't had economic growth in 40 years is the low quality of its education.
    45AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:24
    "Re: #35
    That's because for a long time the dominant mindset was 'it's the company's job to train talent' under lifetime employment.
    So when the economy was good, even high school grads could live pretty comfortably.

    People call it a credentialist society, but for a long time your educational background didn't actually matter that much.
    It was really a non-credentialist society — there wasn't much difference in life outcomes between the highly educated and everyone else.
    40AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:22
    I won't even be alive in 2050 so who cares.
    41AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:23
    "Re: #40
    People like that make up the majority of voters, which is exactly why this country is finished.
    It's a flaw of universal suffrage.
    54AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:27
    In the era of 'all 100 million middle class,' high school grads were the majority and still reasonably happy.
    Japan wasn't really a credentialist society.
    60AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:30
    "Re: #54
    Back then the population was growing and the economy was still developing, so there was a mountain of domestic-demand jobs — work anyone could do.

    Now the population is shrinking, growth has stalled, and domestic jobs that anyone can do have shrunk hugely compared to before.
    We've entered an era where you can't get by unless you do work developing-country workers can't do, or work that earns money overseas.
    Becoming a credentialist society is inevitable, I think.
    72AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:38
    I wonder about that.
    As quotas get cut across the board and schools close down,
    I bet the elite schools stick around without their difficulty changing much.
    78AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:39
    "Re: #72
    Wasn't the plan to cut the number of universities in half by 2040?
    88AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:42
    "Re: #72
    Universities are a business, so apparently they'll just keep filling seats however they can lol
    81AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:40
    Do we even need universities in the first place?
    Online classes would be fine.
    87AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:42
    "Re: #81
    It's one of the screening criteria for hiring, after all.
    Though apparently it's different when the HR person is a woman.
    86AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:42
    It's less 'getting into a famous university becomes the norm' and more like famous-university degrees going on a bargain sale, isn't it?
    91AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:44
    "Re: #86
    It's true the world doesn't go 'wow, Tokyo University!' the way it used to.
    92AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:44
    Most people have probably noticed already, but the underclassmen at their own alma mater are way dumber than their own generation was.
    105AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:49
    I only know the old Yoyogi Seminar hensachi rankings (a major cram-school chain famous for its prep rankings), so I have no clue how things work now.
    131AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:58
    "Re: #105
    It was brutal back then.
    Even with the same hensachi of 50, I feel like you used to be around the top 20% of your generation.
    Now it's probably more like the top 40%.
    107AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:49
    Basically, today's students should aim for at least GMARCH or Kankandoritsu tier (nicknames for respected mid-to-upper private university groups in Tokyo and Kansai).

    Fall below that and 20 years from now you might end up hearing 'Wait, senpai, you went to an F-rank school? lol'
    112AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:52
    "Re: #107
    It'll be a university that doesn't even turn up when you search for it.
    113AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:52
    "Re: #107
    Schools that low probably won't even exist by then
    — the term 'F-rank' might go extinct too.
    119AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:55
    "Re: #92
    Re: #107
    Seriously, the academic ability of the junior new hires coming in lately has cratered.
    109AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:50
    So does that mean 90% of private universities end up F-rank?
    141AnonymousSep 6, 2026 09:01
    Well, there's not much left to actually learn at university anyway.
    If graduation were made as tough as in the US,
    universities would have to change just to survive.
    150AnonymousSep 6, 2026 09:03
    "Re: #109
    Think about the population numbers first.
    Re: #141
    There's actually plenty to learn lol
    that's a separate issue.
    173AnonymousSep 6, 2026 09:07
    "Re: #141
    Not sure how it is now, but apparently in France, like in the shogi world,
    if you fail once the path to university closes for good.
    In Germany, similar to Japanese high schools, if your academic level isn't up to par
    you get steered early into industrial work, onto the Meister (skilled-trade) track.
    114AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:53
    I don't think the trend of universities locking down top students will change.

    The catch is, those top students won't necessarily be Japanese.

    In fact, the former imperial universities and top private schools already have more English-only courses,
    and the new faculty being launched at Tokyo University will hold more than half its classes in English.
    121AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:55
    "Re: #114
    Someone brought up Korean before, saying language matters for how you think.
    English is very black-and-white,
    but for ambiguous, nuanced thinking, isn't Japanese actually better suited?
    140AnonymousSep 6, 2026 09:01
    "Re: #114
    It's not about whether Japanese is 'superior' or not —
    it's about gathering top students and researchers from around the world, not just Japan.
    I mean, top universities worldwide are research institutions, so this is just normal practice for them.

    If that's the goal, you can't run lectures and research only in Japanese.
    You're writing your papers in English anyway, so you might as well just use English day-to-day.

    Background and key points of this discussion

    The article draws on Nikkei’s series “Portrait of a Nation of 100 Million,” which starts from the estimate that, due to the declining birthrate, the number of university applicants in 2050 will fall 30% from today to roughly 420,000. Unless universities significantly cut their enrollment quotas, simple arithmetic says 1 in 2 students could get into a national/public university or an “elite” private university — raising the question of whether the university selection function itself is breaking down.

    The thread split mainly over two points. One was whether to view “easier admission = falling academic ability” or “the level of elite universities will hold steady thanks to quota adjustments,” with many posts debating how fast F-rank universities will be weeded out and how the relative meaning of hensachi scores is shifting (even a hensachi of 50 now represents a different percentile within one’s generation than it used to). The other point concerned universities’ survival strategies — stricter graduation requirements (Western-style) and internationalization through more international students and English-language lectures — with some arguing this isn’t so much “getting harder” as “the pool being selected from expanding from domestic to global.” Worth noting: most of the original article sits behind Nikkei’s paywall, so specific numbers on planned quota cuts can’t be confirmed from the thread’s quotes alone.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “Goodbye, Hensachi: By 2050, 1 in 2 Students Will Get Into a National or Elite Private University.”

  • Is an Uber Eats Courier the Pinnacle of Self-Employment? 5ch Splits Over ‘Zero Startup Cost’ Claim

    On 5ch’s News VIP board, a claim that “Uber Eats couriers get looked down on, but they’re close to the pinnacle of the self-employed” drew a wave of responses. Some praised the low barrier to entry — zero startup cost, zero monthly royalty, zero fixed costs — while others countered that it’s simply a different scale compared to self-employed people who put up large capital, like real estate investors, and still others pointed to the risks of working without social insurance or paid leave. The thread ended up split over just what should count as the “pinnacle” of self-employment.

    1AnonymousSep 6, 2026 07:37
    Startup cost: ¥0
    Monthly royalty: ¥0
    Fixed costs: ¥0
    14AnonymousSep 6, 2026 07:43
    What kind of mindset thinks that's the pinnacle?
    Guys running apartments at a commercial scale are on a totally different level.
    Just because the entry cost is cheap doesn't mean grinding away at the bottom puts you anywhere near the top.
    16AnonymousSep 6, 2026 07:46
    Re: #14
    Real estate investment takes about ¥10 million upfront,
    and only 10% of people actually manage to turn a profit lolololololololol
    18AnonymousSep 6, 2026 07:46
    But when your only client is Uber, isn't that kind of a dead-end business by definition?
    23AnonymousSep 6, 2026 07:49
    Re: #18
    Isn't that true of pretty much everyone though?
    If you drive a bus, about all you can do is drive a bus.
    If you work retail, about all you can do is retail.
    If you're an Uber Eats courier, about all you can do is Uber Eats delivery.
    19AnonymousSep 6, 2026 07:46
    Then again, opening a restaurant or running a convenience store isn't really being self-employed anyway.
    25AnonymousSep 6, 2026 07:50
    Re: #19
    They're self-employed too, same as Uber Eats couriers.
    20AnonymousSep 6, 2026 07:48
    If you had to build Uber's whole platform yourself and run ads, it'd cost way more than tens of millions of yen.
    It's zero cost precisely because you're just a hired part-timer.
    There are countless zero-startup-cost part-time jobs out there.
    27AnonymousSep 6, 2026 07:51
    Re: #20
    That's basically what subcontracting is.
    Small and mid-sized companies make up 70% of all businesses out there, and most of them work as subcontractors.
    26AnonymousSep 6, 2026 07:51
    Honestly, I never expected delivery apps to spread this much.
    Drones replacing them doesn't look realistic in Japan anytime soon either.
    This job could go on functioning as a safety net until the current working generation is all dead.
    28AnonymousSep 6, 2026 07:52
    Re: #26
    Drone delivery's probably still 100 years off.
    https://youtube.com/shorts/9BM41OrDzuE?si=zqqhko1hZ7j8Q-X-
    35AnonymousSep 6, 2026 07:59
    Re: #33
    Re: #28
    Like I said, drone delivery is 100 years off lolololol
    Maybe it'll be possible around the time VRMMORPGs actually become a thing.
    33AnonymousSep 6, 2026 07:57
    If a place like China went all-in on drones, unemployment would go completely through the roof, wouldn't it.
    38AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:01
    Self-employed work you can do from home with zero capital is the strongest setup there is.
    41AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:04
    Re: #38
    That's really what it comes down to.
    A business with zero startup cost and zero monthly fixed costs is a strong business.
    75AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:33
    Uber Eats couriers are basically being exploited by Uber too, aren't they.
    Uber makes money because it gets to use them as errand-runners with zero risk, without ever hiring them.
    79AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:34
    Re: #75
    Uber itself ran at a loss for years, you know.
    81AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:35
    Re: #79
    Running Uber Eats delivery and still ending up at a loss?
    You mean you moved to the city and your living costs outpaced your earnings? lolololol
    101AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:47
    Re: #95
    First off, I wasn't even talking to you.
    You're just misreading it.
    I actually think doing Uber is a good thing.
    Don't come at me with some weird angle.
    Go back and reread the whole Re: #79 thread.
    84AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:37
    Re: #81
    Uber, the company itself.
    90AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:42
    Re: #87
    You said Uber profits off using them risk-free, so I was just letting you know Uber itself was in the red for years…
    96AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:45
    Re: #90
    So Uber Eats is all about exploiting bottom-tier workers under the 'self-employed' label instead of actually hiring them, huh.
    85AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:38
    Re: #78
    You're getting paid by putting your own body on the line, right? To me, that's a losing trade.
    Isn't working as a regular full-time employee just better and less risky?
    93AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:43
    Re: #89
    If you get into an accident, labor law won't protect you.
    No social insurance, no bonuses, no severance pay, no unemployment insurance.
    Don't you realize how much Uber is exploiting you?
    97AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:45
    Re: #93
    This thread is about comparisons within self-employment, so stop derailing it by dragging in comparisons to guys who'll be salarymen till they die.
    99AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:47
    Re: #93
    What exactly do you mean by 'if you get into an accident'?
    Like a traffic accident?
    Would that be your fault, or the other party's?
    123AnonymousSep 6, 2026 09:00
    Does it actually pay that well?
    126AnonymousSep 6, 2026 09:01
    Re: #123
    About ¥4,000 an hour.
    127AnonymousSep 6, 2026 09:02
    Re: #126
    That's surprisingly good.
    Seems pretty low-stress too.
    131AnonymousSep 6, 2026 09:05
    Re: #126
    But if this is your main job, social insurance and taxes will eat up more than 30% of that.
    National Health Insurance is basically a rip-off if you just enroll the normal way.
    And there's no sick pay on top of that.
    130AnonymousSep 6, 2026 09:05
    Re: #125
    That's not something just anyone can do.
    Telling someone 'become a doctor, go independent, and pull in ¥300 million a year' —
    not everyone can do that, so comparing it is just dumb.
    133AnonymousSep 6, 2026 09:07
    Re: #130
    It's not really about the comparison —
    is it really fine to be self-employed and still end up on the exploited end?
    142AnonymousSep 6, 2026 09:13
    Re: #133
    Fine or not fine —
    bringing up some exceptional case that not everyone can pull off doesn't really help.
    What we're talking about is self-employment that anyone can get into.
    By your logic, I could just say 'become a doctor, open your own practice, and you'll make ¥300 million a year.'
    Is it 'fine' to make ¥2 million a year as an Uber courier?
    That's no different from just saying 'become an independent doctor and you'll make ¥300 million.'
    144AnonymousSep 6, 2026 09:14
    Re: #142
    Even the bottom-rung site laborers you all look down on
    pull in ¥4 million a year without even trying.
    They just see no benefit in going self-employed, so they stay hired.
    145AnonymousSep 6, 2026 09:15
    Re: #142
    You're the one who said it yourself — that it's the pinnacle among the self-employed.
    134AnonymousSep 6, 2026 09:08
    Hmm…
    What's the actual difference between a 'self-employed' person who just handles whatever orders come down the pipe, and a regular hired delivery driver?

    Sure, there's no risk — but that also means the upside is capped.
    And since you're not an employee, nobody's got your back either.

    It's a mystery what people are even trying to accomplish by hyping up a job that, within the narrow world of self-employment, takes no risk and therefore has a low ceiling on reward.

    If you don't actually want to take on risk to make more money, then just be an employee already…
    135AnonymousSep 6, 2026 09:10
    Re: #134
    Isn't this ultimately just companies using the 'self-employed' label to cut the cost of actually hiring bottom-tier workers?
    143AnonymousSep 6, 2026 09:14
    Re: #134
    That's exactly why workers and the self-employed are completely different things.

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    Uber Eats couriers work under contractor agreements rather than employment contracts, making them self-employed (freelance) workers who fall outside the scope of workers’ compensation insurance, employment insurance, and paid leave under Japan’s Labor Standards Act. At the same time, in 2022 Japan’s Central Labour Relations Commission recognized couriers as “workers” under the Labor Union Act, granting them the right to collective bargaining through a union — part of an ongoing legal debate over their position somewhere between self-employed contractor and employee. In the thread, opinions split between those who saw the near-zero startup and fixed costs as an advantage of self-employment, and those who stressed risks unique to being self-employed, such as a heavier social insurance burden and thin protection in the event of an accident or illness. Underlying the disagreement is a difference in premise: even though both sides are discussing “self-employment” as one category, should couriers be measured against large-scale business owners, or judged simply on how easy the work is to get into?

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News VIP) thread “Uber Eats couriers get looked down on, but aren’t they close to the top of the self-employed pile?.”

  • PS5 Expansion SSD: 2TB Tops ¥100,000, 5ch Erupts in Anguish

    PS5 expansion SSDs are now priced at ¥101,980 for 2TB and ¥50,980 even for 1TB, sparking discussion on 5ch’s Hardware/Industry (Geha) board. Posters lined up to complain that the prices are absurd for what’s essentially just storage media, with some comparing it to just a few years ago when 2TB external HDDs could be had for around ¥10,000. The thread also pointed out that Nintendo’s Switch 2 microSD Express cards (¥28,980 for 512GB) have seen similarly steep price hikes, underscoring that this isn’t a Sony-specific issue but reflects conditions across the entire memory market.

    1AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:40
    2TB: ¥101,980
    1TB: ¥50,980
    4AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:47
    Next you'll say 'I bought mine back when it was cheap, so I'm fine.'
    5AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:50
    The PS5 Pro's bundled 2TB SSD…
    Isn't this just unworkable at this price?
    65AnonymousSep 6, 2026 04:51
    Re: #5
    That's exactly why they've stopped shipping it.
    6AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:50
    A thread that proves the 🐷 (slang for console fanboys) don't even own a PC
    95AnonymousSep 6, 2026 07:51
    Re: #6
    Kioxia via Geo, 'Geo Cicada,' and Bic Camera back in March (nicknames posters use for retailers/deals that kept old prices around) — PC users would remember, since they sold at the old prices the longest.
    Still sitting here unopened though.
    I also bought a 990 Evo for my PC and never used that one either — just another SSD in the stockpile.
    15AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:18
    The 2TB HDD I bought for recording used to cost around ¥10,000.
    17AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:21
    For us commoners, even storage is a hurdle — 'consumer' hardware (a mock-haiku playing on "consumer console")
    19AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:22
    Things are falling apart left and right.
    Feels like humanity's headed for extinction too.
    20AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:24
    I only play free-to-play games, so I'm safe.
    21AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:24
    It's seriously just storage media, this is way too expensive.
    22AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:26
    Looks like the PS5 console itself is about to get another price hike too.
    24AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:27
    'Crapstation' (derogatory nickname for the PS5) genuinely never has a single piece of good news.
    Even as far as life support goes, this is brutal.
    27AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:32
    The 🐷 (Nintendo fanboy) went out of his way to snap a photo in-store just to troll, and still couldn't find anything worse per-GB than this? 😅

    32AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:39
    Re: #27
    That Nintendo official one hasn't even released yet.
    38AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:44
    Re: #27
    He must've been so salty about this he went and stole the image.
    51AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:20
    Re: #27
    The M700 Pro XT 2TB I own is currently going for ¥150,000 at the cheapest on Kakaku.com.
    28AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:34
    If you're at the point of needing to swap your SSD, maybe fix your indecisiveness first.
    29AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:34
    Thanks to AI you can churn out illustrations easily now, so just suck it up and pay the ¥100,000.
    What are you, some anti-AI dinosaur?
    66AnonymousSep 6, 2026 05:18
    Re: #29
    Then don't come crying when they build a data center right next to your house.
    36AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:44
    Can't beat this one ☺

    Nintendo officially announces microSD Express Card, 512GB — ¥28,980!
    https://krsw.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/ghard/1788518258/
    40AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:46
    Re: #36
    Huh?
    37AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:44
    Bought a 'Cicada' brand (nickname for a budget SSD line) 2TB for under ¥20,000 two years ago lol
    Figured if it's just for the PS5, I wouldn't mind if the data got wiped.

    Still, prices have gotten way too high now.
    71AnonymousSep 6, 2026 05:59
    Last year you could still get 4TB for around ¥20,000-something.
    That's terrifying.
    77AnonymousSep 6, 2026 06:43
    Re: #71
    The HDD hooked up to my Blu-ray recorder is a 4TB junk unit that cost ¥1,800.
    74AnonymousSep 6, 2026 06:40
    Worry about the trash-Switch (mocking nickname for the Switch) that's already stopped selling instead of a PS6 that hasn't even launched yet, trash lol
    76AnonymousSep 6, 2026 06:42
    Re: #74
    Another entry in the 'mad because it's true' series.
    99AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:14
    Genshin Impact: 161GB Honkai: Star Rail: 142GB Wuthering Waves: 124GB = 428GB
    Just installing a few Chinese games already eats up all your space.
    100AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:18
    Re: #99
    Both the fanboys and Sony are fine with it as long as Chinese games sell, so no problem at all lol

    Background and Key Points on This Story

    The underlying cause is a worldwide surge in the price of semiconductor memory such as NAND flash and DRAM. Since 2025, memory market conditions have tightened sharply amid soaring demand from data centers built for generative AI, driving up the raw cost of SSDs and SD cards themselves. Some in the thread pointed to a connection with data center construction, suggesting this isn’t a price hike unique to PS5 but a phenomenon affecting the entire industry. It was also noted that while a PS5 Pro model with a built-in 2TB SSD once existed, it’s no longer being shipped, narrowing the options for securing large storage capacity from the outset. One easy misconception for readers is that ‘Sony is opportunistically hiking prices,’ but Nintendo’s microSD Express Card has seen similar increases, showing this isn’t simply a matter of one company’s business practices.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry [Geha]) thread “PS5’s Expansion SSD, ¥100,000 wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.”

  • Four Kelp Varieties Turn Out to Be the Same Species — Hokkaido University DNA Analysis Confirms

    A research team led by Associate Professor Shingo Akita of Hokkaido University has announced that four varieties of Japanese kelp long treated as separate names — including Rausu kelp and Rishiri kelp — turned out through DNA analysis to actually be the same species. On the thread, posters listed out the finely subdivided kelp classifications like Ma-kombu and Oni-kombu, and the discussion grew into a debate over the very definition of “species” in biology, with comments like “what’s the difference between a species and a variety?” and “even with identical DNA, the taste and stickiness differ.” Some also noted that Rishiri kelp is known as a premium product, and that the amount of umami varies by region of origin.

    Four Kelp Varieties Turn Out to Be the Same Species — Revealed by Hokkaido University Team’s DNA Analysis

    Among the kelp growing in Japan’s seas, four varieties that had been called by separate names turned out to actually be the same species.

    A research team led by Associate Professor Shingo Akita (phycology) of Hokkaido University compiled these findings based on DNA analysis.

    Source: asahi.com / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 4, 2026 23:00
    What about Rausu kelp?
    6AnonymousSep 5, 2026 04:11
    Re: #2
    That'd be Ma-kombu ("true kelp")… people have been saying that for a while
    3AnonymousSep 4, 2026 23:02
    Put 'em all together and you get Comp-Kombu (a pun on "complete")
    4AnonymousSep 4, 2026 23:27
    Seaweed is indispensable to Japanese cuisine, and it's touted as a healthy food of the future that grows without any effort — but apparently a lot of species are declining in the wild at a rate that's practically heading toward extinction. Yet because it's never really been researched until now, there's no accumulated know-how, and it's full of unknowns lol
    5AnonymousSep 4, 2026 23:45
    What about Miyako Konbu (the shredded-kelp snack)?
    7AnonymousSep 5, 2026 04:53
    This is more a variety than a species, isn't it.
    24AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:09
    http://www.h-skk.or.jp/index.php?%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E7%94%A3%E3%82%B3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%96%E3%81%AE%E5%88%86%E9%A1%9E
    Genus Laminaria (kombu) — 13 species:
    【Ma-kombu (incl. Yayan-kombu)】, 【Hosome-kombu】, 【Rishiri-kombu】, 【Oni-kombu (incl. Rishiri-type Enaga-oni-kombu and Kukinaga-kombu)】,
    Enaga-kombu, Mitsuishi-kombu, Naga-kombu, Gaggara-kombu, Karafuto-kombu, Chijimi-kombu, Karafuto-tororo-kombu, Endou-kombu, Gohei-kombu

    Does that mean the ones in【 】brackets are all the same species, and the differences come down to habitat?
    Re: #7
    Doesn't "variety" imply there's a genetic difference though?
    10AnonymousSep 5, 2026 05:36
    They're variants.

    By the way, with dogs too — apart from wolf-type dogs like Siberian Huskies and the Chow Chow, pretty much all the rest are variants of the same species.
    12AnonymousSep 5, 2026 10:28
    It comes down to what standard you use to define "same species." Seaweed seems like it can regenerate even from a torn-off fragment, so using pollination/fertilization compatibility as the definition of species — the usual approach — seems hard to apply to seaweed.
    13AnonymousSep 5, 2026 10:52
    Sounds like the Showa era, back before DNA testing was standard practice.
    15AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:40
    Re: #13
    Do you think DNA analysis is some kind of cure-all?
    Clones or identical twins have identical DNA, but are you saying even a single base-pair difference makes it a different species?
    This is about how much variation you allow and how much you don't allow —
    it's a matter of definition, that's all.
    16AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:42
    I can't shake the feeling I heard this exact same story about 20 years ago.
    18AnonymousSep 5, 2026 14:07
    Echizen crab and Matsuba crab are both just snow crab (zuwaigani) anyway.
    19AnonymousSep 5, 2026 14:16
    Kelp's in the ocean, but no dashi comes out, I wonder why♪

    Four kinds of kelp turn out to be the same kind, I wonder why♪

    I wonder why♪ I wonder why♪ Why oh why is that♪ (riffing on the Tunnels comedy duo's novelty song "Nande Darou")
    20AnonymousSep 5, 2026 15:17
    Is the extra-sticky Gagame-kombu (a.k.a. Neko-ashi-kombu, "cat-paw kelp") a different species then?
    22AnonymousSep 5, 2026 15:42
    Short, bald, fat, and smelly — turns out these four "complexes" were secretly the same worry all along (a pun on "konpu"/complex echoing "kombu" from the headline)
    23AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:03
    When I went to Rishiri Island, they had kelp out drying. Rishiri kelp's supposed to be a premium item, right?
    25AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:11
    So this is what they call "wake-wakame," huh? (a pun combining "wakaranai," meaning "I don't get it," with wakame seaweed)
    26AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:26
    Doesn't it matter where it was harvested?
    36AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:13
    Even if they're the same DNA-wise, the taste is completely different, so classify them properly.
    37AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:47
    Out west, when you say dashi, kelp's the first thing that comes to mind.
    38AnonymousSep 6, 2026 04:57
    This is from something I read a long time ago, but apparently even kelp of the same species has different umami content depending on where it's from — though it was a slight difference.
    If that's the case, it might be fine to keep different product names, but I'd appreciate it if they'd label it alongside like "(Ma-kombu)" or "(snow crab)," just to be clear.
    40AnonymousSep 6, 2026 06:07
    Re: #38
    Every now and then someone says that.
    39AnonymousSep 6, 2026 05:20
    Oh My Kombu! (a play on "Oh my God")

    Background and Key Points of Debate

    Kelp (genus Saccharina, commonly called kombu) has long been finely classified as a Japanese seafood product, but many of those classifications were empirical distinctions based on region or shape, with little genetic backing. What’s new about this study is that it revisited the classification using the objective method of DNA analysis. That said, the very definition of “species” is prone to disagreement in organisms where reproductive compatibility — the usual yardstick for animals — is hard to apply, and the thread raised exactly that point, debating the difference between “variety” and “species” and the difficulty of judging species given seaweed’s unique ability to reproduce through regeneration and fragmentation. It’s also worth noting — something the article itself doesn’t get into — that even kelp genetically identical as a single species could still end up marketed and labeled under different product names, given differences in umami content by region.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Science News+) thread “[Biology] Four Kelp Varieties Turn Out to Be the Same Species — Revealed by Hokkaido University Team’s DNA Analysis.”

  • “Switch” Wording Vanishes From Next Nintendo Direct Announcement — 5ch: “This Was Always the Plan”

    On September 4, Nintendo announced “Nintendo Direct 2026.9.9,” set to stream September 9 at 23:00 JST, but the program page’s description mentioned only “information on Nintendo Switch 2 software” — the words “Nintendo Switch,” previously listed alongside it, were nowhere to be found. On 5ch’s hardware/industry board, this shift sparked a wave of reactions along the lines of “so the old model is finally getting cut,” while other, cooler-headed posters countered with “this is neither bad news nor good news, just the expected course of things.” Opinions in the thread were split over just how far the transition to the Switch 2 has actually progressed.

    The words “Nintendo Switch” have been dropped from the Nintendo Direct announcement, leaving only “Switch 2.” Is the original Switch’s treatment hitting a turning point?

    On September 4, Nintendo announced that “Nintendo Direct 2026.9.9” would stream on September 9 at 23:00. The official site’s program page states, “We’ll bring you information on Nintendo Switch 2 software, centered on titles launching this winter” — and the original Nintendo Switch is notably absent from what’s being covered.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    2AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:14
    This isn't bad news or good news, it's just the expected course of things.
    3AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:14
    Barely anyone's even upgraded to the Switch 2 yet…
    4AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:14
    Ugh, here comes the "upgrade from PS4 to PS5" notification…

    Apparently the PS5 is also dropping the disc drive entirely, by the way.
    5AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:14
    So this is finally the Switch getting cut, huh
    Rough.
    8AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:15
    But we're never gonna drop Switch support! 🤪
    9AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:16
    Isn't it a bit early to be cutting the Switch?
    10AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:16
    Perfect chance to jump ship from PlayStation to the Switch 2!
    11AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:16
    Looks like it'll split: Nintendo and the big publishers go Switch 2,
    while indies and small-to-mid studios stick with the original Switch.
    12AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:17
    I've already got a Switch 2, so bring it on.
    14AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:17
    Konami and Bandai Namco are still putting out games with no Switch 2 version
    Seriously, make a Switch 2 version already.
    16AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:21
    Guess there's no turning back now
    Nobody could've predicted things would get this bad back when development started.
    29AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:29
    Re: #16
    Nintendo basically always cuts the previous generation once a new console launches.
    Otherwise what's even the point of releasing a new console? Normally the first party drives adoption, and that's what draws third parties in, right?
    PlayStation leaves it all to third parties, so once the exclusives dry up… yeah. And even those third parties' new releases haven't been selling well lately, though digital sale downloads seem to do okay.
    17AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:22
    Guess more games will keep migrating from the "trash can" (mocking nickname for PS5) over to Switch.
    18AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:22
    If it's a vertical multi-release across Switch and Switch 2 (same game, both generations), there's no contradiction, and that's probably what most games will do
    Doesn't seem like Switch games are going away entirely.
    22AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:25
    Re: #18
    If that were the case they wouldn't have specifically written "Switch 2," so that's not it.
    30AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:30
    Re: #18
    I thought Fate/EXTRA was Switch 2 exclusive, so I was a little surprised it's coming to Switch too
    Maybe publishers aren't cutting Switch yet — or can't afford to, sales-wise.
    19AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:23
    Just Nintendo pulling its usual gatekeeping nonsense
    There'll probably still be plenty of games releasing on the original Switch as normal.
    20AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:24
    Last fiscal year, the Switch versions of Rhythm Heaven and Tomodachi Collection really saved their earnings — are they sure it's okay to cut it now?
    23AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:26
    Switch is a hotbed for piracy (hacked consoles), so this checks out.
    24AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:26
    If they're still doing vertical multi-releases four or five years from now, that means the transition failed and consumers said no to it.
    But of course that could never happen with Nintendo's wonderful hardware.

    Users or publishers who still haven't bought a Switch 2 and are clinging to the original — I guess they just don't deserve Nintendo.
    60AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:21
    Re: #24
    Wii U says: "…huh?"
    26AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:26
    So Switch 1-only titles just won't get featured anymore, huh — that's some serious pressure.
    27AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:28
    It's the expected direction, but they're probably not cutting it just yet.
    28AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:29
    The one getting cut is PlayStation, by its own third parties.
    31AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:30
    The beginning of the end, huh.
    33AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:31
    Re: #31
    It's all over by January 2028 anyway.
    32AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:31
    Most Switches are already worn out and breaking down at this point
    What's showing up in Famitsu's charts is probably just existing owners buying replacement units, not people with any intention of moving to the Switch 2.
    34AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:31
    Re: #30
    The rumored Romancing SaGa 3 remake is also confirmed for the original Switch.
    35AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:33
    I mean, it'd be tough to take a game that started development for the Switch 2 and turn it into a vertical multi-release with the old Switch partway through.
    36AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:34
    There should still be plenty of software in development for the original Switch
    Unlike with PlayStation.
    37AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:35
    They're still manufacturing the hardware, after all
    Can't just pull the plug overnight.
    38AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:36
    Switch versions will probably keep coming out for a while yet
    Basically they just made the Switch 2 the main focus of the marketing, that's all.
    39AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:36
    Vertical multi-releases are fine
    Games like Powerful Pro Baseball that don't even have a Switch 2 version — those are the problem.
    64AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:33
    The source is Gamespark, which always kisses up to Sony (lol).
    65AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:35
    Re: #64
    Did you not even read the Direct announcement text?
    78AnonymousSep 6, 2026 02:05
    It already peaked in its first year, yet they're still committed to pushing the Switch 2 transition — gotta admire the resolve.
    80AnonymousSep 6, 2026 02:12
    Re: #78
    Vertical multi-releases across Switch/Switch 2, like SaGa 3 which leaked from the ratings board, are fine
    It's Switch-only titles, like Powerful Pro Baseball, that are the problem, that's all.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    For Nintendo’s hybrid home/portable consoles, it’s typical for software support for the previous generation to continue for a while even after a successor launches — during the transition periods for both the 3DS and the Wii U, titles for the older hardware kept coming out in parallel. This Direct announcement simply indicates “the range of titles the program will cover”; it isn’t a declaration that releases for the original Switch are ending outright. In fact, the thread itself brought up original-Switch-compatible titles like the Romancing SaGa 3 remake and Fate/EXTRA, showing that third-party support is still a mixed bag at this stage. Where the thread split was over whether to read this wording change as “the starting gun for a completed transition” or merely “narrowing down what the show promotes” — a difference rooted in how far along people feel the Switch 2’s adoption actually is.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry (Geha)) thread “[Bad News] Original Switch Might Get Snubbed From the Next Nintendo Direct.”

  • 6,000 Copper Roof Plates Stolen from Shrine, Damages Top ¥20 Million — 5ch: ‘Time to Flood the Place with Security Cameras’

    It has come to light that roughly 6,000 copper plates covering the roofs of the main hall and the adjoining Kotowachi Shrine (事麻知神社) at Hakusan Shrine in Tenryu Ward, Hamamatsu City, Shizuoka Prefecture were stolen, with damages exceeding ¥20 million. The theft was discovered on August 25 when those involved with the shrine visited for the first time in about a month, and it was reported to police. On 5ch’s Breaking News+ thread, commenters called for tighter monitoring and regulation of scrap metal buyers, pointed to a similar case of copper plate theft from a temple in the Noto Peninsula earthquake disaster zone, and repeatedly voiced frustration that metal theft cases so often end without indictment.

    It has been revealed that about 6,000 copper plates, worth roughly ¥20 million, were stolen from the roof of a shrine in Tenryu Ward, Hamamatsu City.

    The copper plates were stolen from Hakusan Shrine in Sejiri, Ryuzan-cho, Tenryu Ward. On August 25, those involved with the shrine noticed the theft when they visited for the first time in about a month and reported it to police.

    According to the chief priest, the stolen items were a total of 6,000 copper plates covering the roofs of the main hall and the adjoining Kotowachi Shrine, with damages amounting to more than ¥20 million.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    5AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:35
    Damn cops shouldn't be busy padding their pocket money with traffic tickets right now.
    117AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:20
    Re: #5
    Those guys won't lift a finger without an official complaint filed.
    6AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:37
    Flood the areas around scrap metal buying yards with security cameras.
    15AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:41
    When I went to my local shrine for a festival, I remember thinking those copper plates engraved with donors' names looked like easy pickings for theft — and sure enough, some shrines really have had theirs stolen…
    99AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:13
    Make theft of public property a much harsher crime — if it's not restored within a month, apply the death penalty.
    111AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:18
    Re: #99
    Exactly this.
    The current criminal code is way too vague and can't keep up with how vicious these crimes have gotten.
    120AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:23
    God: 'They'll get off without charges anyway, lol.'
    123AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:24
    Re: #120
    God: 'I wonder about the buyers, though?'
    121AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:23
    I thought this was just a Japan thing, but apparently in Europe too, metal's being stripped from wind farms, solar plants, railways, EV charging stations, and telecom cables.
    Maybe Japan's still better off, since at least our railways and phone lines haven't been hit yet.
    135AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:32
    Copper wire, copper plates, crop theft — none of that used to happen, you know. It's been going on since right around when everyone started chanting 'globalization, globalization.' Well, that tells you something. 🤭
    157AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:47
    Re: #135
    Nah, it happened plenty back then too.
    177AnonymousSep 6, 2026 02:08
    Re: #135
    Apparently right after the war there were cases of national railway wire theft, but it wasn't as frequent as it is now.
    AC outdoor unit theft is probably a recent thing, once metal prices spiked?
    Never heard of crop theft being a thing back then, though.
    174AnonymousSep 6, 2026 02:06
    Two Sri Lankan nationals charged with stealing copper plates and other metal from a temple in the Noto Peninsula earthquake disaster zone
    https://www.fnn.jp/articles/-/1096896

    In this case, police built cases for 45 offenses total, but prosecutors declined to indict on 44 of them, citing 'consideration of various circumstances.'
    About 500 pieces of metal were stolen, with total damages estimated at around ¥32 million.
    192AnonymousSep 6, 2026 02:23
    Re: #174
    When there are lots of related offenses, it's standard practice to only pursue the one case that's easiest to prove.
    191AnonymousSep 6, 2026 02:22
    If the load weighed several tons, they must have hauled it out by truck.
    That's a brazenly easy crime to pull off!
    194AnonymousSep 6, 2026 02:24
    Re: #191
    Looking at the map, it's a single road in and out,
    so they probably posted a lookout down below.
    Still, seems like they'd leave some kind of trail eventually though.
    193AnonymousSep 6, 2026 02:23
    They can pull off such bold crimes precisely because they know that even if they're caught, they won't get indicted anyway.
    196AnonymousSep 6, 2026 02:25
    Re: #193
    The grunts who did the actual hauling are small fry compared to whoever's really behind this.

    Background and Points of Debate

    Copper has become a prime target for metal theft amid soaring international prices, and there was in fact a real case in which copper plates and other metal were stolen from a temple in the Noto Peninsula earthquake disaster zone, with total damages reaching roughly ¥32 million. In the thread, some argued that this surge in metal theft is a distinctly recent phenomenon, while others pushed back, pointing to past incidents like the theft of national railway wire after the war — so commenters don’t fully agree on whether the cause can be reduced to a single explanation. There was also repeated frustration over how often suspects are caught but never indicted, though it should be noted that indictment decisions hinge on the specifics of each case, making it hard to generalize from the information in this article alone.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Breaking News+) thread “[Shizuoka] ‘Trampling on a place where the gods are enshrined’ — Who did it? 6,000 copper plates stolen from a shrine, damages over ¥20 million… Hamamatsu’s Hakusan Shrine.”

  • Miki Fujimoto: It’s fine if people don’t recognize her as an ex-Morning Musume member — “I don’t have that kind of pride anymore,” “None of that ‘I used to be an idol, you know!’ attitude”

    Talent Miki Fujimoto updated her YouTube channel by September 5, sharing that she’s fine with younger generations not recognizing her as a former member of Morning Musume. Fujimoto made her solo debut in 2002 and appeared as the opening act at that year’s NHK Kohaku Uta Gassen before joining Morning Musume. Reactions on 5ch were split over just how popular she’d actually been as a solo artist before joining, and over how to read the circumstances that led to her joining the group.

    Miki Fujimoto: OK with not being recognized as an ex-Morning Musume member — “I don’t have that kind of pride anymore”

    Talent Miki Fujimoto updated her YouTube channel by the 5th, revealing how she’s perceived by younger generations.

    Fujimoto is a former Morning Musume idol who also appeared solo on NHK’s Kohaku Uta Gassen, serving as the opening act.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:30
    Because watching Showa-era retro exploration videos on YouTube is more fun than watching Peace-kun from Omiya Park (a local mascot character).
    3AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:32
    It's not like she wanted to join Morning Musume in the first place, right?
    4AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:33
    Re: #1
    Well, these days she's basically filling the role of the opinionated auntie on TV.
    24AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:48
    Re: #4
    Since that's working out for her, she probably doesn't need to cling to the past.
    5AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:34
    But she still wants to be a celebrity and keep getting TV work, doesn't she?
    7AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:35
    She was already doing well and popular as a solo act, so I was honestly surprised when she got shoved into Morning Musume.
    Didn't that hurt her pride at all?
    How did that even happen?
    11AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:40
    Re: #7
    I heard she originally auditioned for Morning Musume and got rejected.
    So maybe it was like a "you wanted in anyway, right?" move to give the group a boost?
    36AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:57
    Re: #7
    From what I remember at the time, she had zero popularity as a solo artist.
    41AnonymousSep 6, 2026 02:00
    Re: #7
    Morning Musume was overwhelmingly more popular than her, come on.
    9AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:38
    Wife of comedian Shoji, and Akane Osawa's TV partner.
    10AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:39
    Had zero interest in her during her Morning Musume days, but I heard her sing at an event recently
    and thought she was really good.
    12AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:41
    Re: #11
    Even though she was already successful and established as a solo act?
    13AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:42
    It actually hit me that being an idol is something to be proud of.
    14AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:42
    Guess we're just pretending she never had a solo debut before joining Morning Musume.
    15AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:42
    She's probably earning like three times what Shoji makes these days.
    What about Shoji's pride?
    16AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:44
    She was originally solo, and out of that whole batch, isn't she basically the only one still around, along with — in a different lane — Gomaki and Tsuji?
    As for this generation of Hello! Project,
    Yaguchi torched her own career and vanished too,
    so surviving as an "auntie variety character" is honestly impressive.
    17AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:44
    My impression of her is as the original owner of the "under-eye bag" look — and hers are natural, right?
    She's doing well now and happy in her personal life, so of course she doesn't need pride from her past anymore.
    18AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:45
    And she was the leader, yet she quit over a dating scandal.
    20AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:46
    https://youtu.be/-dcOYIDgCOY?si=Rdz-N4Nbl4lV4sgX
    "Romantic Ukare Mode" (Romantic Giddy Mode)

    https://youtu.be/JSzISK4PNic?si=JAP5GeCnfvfD-GnB
    "Nagai Nichiyoubi" (Long Sunday)
    21AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:47
    https://youtu.be/M_jQTcbLB8o?si=DCw2TZW1CcviTnUl
    "Boyfriend"

    That's what I remember from back then.
    She was selling well as a solo act and was famous under her own name, Miki Fujimoto.
    23AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:48
    If she's this successful now…
    According to comedian Ryo Fukawa, that's because she's the reincarnation of Himiko (a legendary ancient shaman-queen).
    25AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:48
    She teamed up with Ayaya (Aya Matsuura) to form the unit GAM, right?
    Setting aside how racy the outfits were, the songs were actually good too.
    26AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:50
    Come to think of it, she just quietly merged into Morning Musume at some point.
    She never got as popular as Aya Matsuura.
    27AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:52
    Now that I think about it, I never really pictured her as a Morning Musume type.
    28AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:52
    Aya Matsuura and Miki Fujimoto were both successful as solo artists.
    29AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:53
    She left Morning Musume pretty quickly, didn't she?
    I'd say she was most well-known during her "Gomattou" days (her duo unit with Goto Maki).
    30AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:53
    Looked it up.

    The reason Miki Fujimoto (Mikitty) joined Morning Musume is that producer Tsunku suddenly told her she'd be brought in as a "spark plug" for the group. [1] (https://www.nikkansports.com/entertainment/news/202403040001198.html) Fujimoto debuted as a solo singer in 2002 and made her first appearance that same year on NHK's Kohaku Uta Gassen, but right after that Kohaku appearance, she was called into her agency's office, where Tsunku himself abruptly told her she'd be joining Morning Musume. At the time she had real pride in what she'd built as a solo artist, so the news came completely out of nowhere — she's since said in TV appearances and interviews that it "wasn't something she was happy about at all" and that "it was a situation where she couldn't say no." [1] (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AqceJTGxSFM)
    37AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:57
    Some woman in her 20s back then said Miki Fujimoto was "the most mature one" in Gomattou, and I still don't get what that meant.
    47AnonymousSep 6, 2026 02:03
    She wasn't even selling that well to begin with — she only joined Morning Musume after her solo career had already stalled.
    52AnonymousSep 6, 2026 02:10
    Re: #47
    Was that how it went?
    I remember it more as: the main group lost its star member, so they brought in a popular solo act to fill the gap.
    54AnonymousSep 6, 2026 02:11
    The hunger it took to climb up out of that slum is something else.


    56AnonymousSep 6, 2026 02:12
    Normally when a comedian marries an idol, the idol is seen as the bigger catch, but back then there was a comedian boom going on, so the vibe was that Shoji was actually the higher-status one.
    58AnonymousSep 6, 2026 02:15
    Re: #56
    They went straight into marriage after that, so it didn't end up tarnishing her image much.
    78AnonymousSep 6, 2026 02:35
    I don't really follow the logic, but I can't find any reason for her surviving on TV other than having been an idol back in the day.
    83AnonymousSep 6, 2026 02:39
    Re: #78
    She wasn't doing that well after quitting idol work, but for about the past three years she's suddenly been getting called onto a ton of terrestrial-TV panel shows.
    It feels more like a slot happened to open up and she slid right into it, rather than anything to do with her own effort.
    79AnonymousSep 6, 2026 02:35
    Scary, scary, scary 🫣
    82AnonymousSep 6, 2026 02:39
    Feels like her time in Morning Musume was pretty short.
    89AnonymousSep 6, 2026 02:52
    Re: #82
    She was in it for about 4 years — it was her time as leader that was short lol

    Background and key points of this topic

    Miki Fujimoto made her solo debut in 2002, appeared at that year’s Kohaku Uta Gassen, and then joined Morning Musume. Posts in the thread pointed out that she was told about joining right after her Kohaku appearance by producer Tsunku, and that she has said in later years it “wasn’t something she was happy about at all.” Opinions on just how popular she actually was as a solo artist before joining are split — some commenters say she was already an established name, others say she had zero popularity at the time — and the thread’s memories don’t line up on this point. Some also viewed her joining as a kind of “gap-filler” move made after a headline member had left the group, suggesting the story isn’t purely a feel-good one.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt/summary of the 5ch (Entertainment/Sports News+) thread “[Entertainment] Miki Fujimoto: OK with not being recognized as an ex-Morning Musume member — “I don’t have that pride anymore,” “None of that ‘I used to be an idol, you know!’ attitude”.”

  • New ‘FF Resonance’ Wins Over Old-School Fans — 5ch: ‘Just Release This as FF16’

    “Final Fantasy Resonance” is a new title that Square Enix has commissioned outside studio Lancarse to develop, featuring a system called “Visions” that builds on the series’ classic Job system. On 5ch’s Nanademo Jikkyou G board, fans responded warmly to the revealed Malboro footage and graphics, though reports that the price would be around ¥7,000 also drew comments like “that’s steep for full price.” Some voiced regret that Hironobu Sakaguchi and Nobuo Uematsu aren’t involved, while others speculated about where the series goes after the FF7 Remake trilogy wraps up.

    21AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:41
    Just release this as FF16, honestly
    23AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:43
    Re: #21
    Scary thing is, there are current-FF antis out there who genuinely believe this.
    27AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:45
    Why is Terra always picked to represent FF6 in these crossover celebration games?
    37AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:54
    Re: #27
    Balance, probably.
    She's a rare female mage character.
    32AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:49
    That Malboro looks like it genuinely reeks 😖 (Malboro: a classic FF monster infamous for its stench-based attacks)

    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2095071911588118529/vid/avc1/1920×1080/fGC1Se8EDUn48Y96.mp4?tag=29
    41AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:55
    Re: #32
    If the guy before Cloud dies, does Cloud die too?
    40AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:55
    Is Hirono involved with GUMI again on this one?
    43AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:58
    Re: #40
    Hirono left Square Enix and went independent.
    He's 'President Hirono' now.
    42AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:58
    Given the FF brand-name premium, maybe around ¥980?
    48AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:01
    Re: #42
    Re: #45 says it's ¥7,678 😨
    55AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:08
    Re: #42
    I'd guess ¥1,500–1,980 is the going rate.
    ¥2,980 would already feel pricey.
    45AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:59
    The main thread's a hit with old-school FF geezers too
    [FFRS] Final Fantasy Resonance
    https://krsw.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/ff/1788500636/
    53AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:07
    What's with the Stand-like thing?
    Is it like Emblem Engage (Fire Emblem Engage)?
    60AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:13
    Re: #53
    Visions.
    Yeah, basically just like Stands (the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure kind).
    61AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:13
    Re: #53
    They're called Visions — phantom-like manifestations of people from another world.
    Officially described as an evolved form of the Job system.
    Each one levels up individually, learns abilities, and can be freely swapped in and out.
    57AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:11
    Anyone hyped for this — you not playing FFBE?
    58AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:12
    Re: #57
    What do you mean by that?
    64AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:16
    What's up with the game industry lately —
    is it nothing but creepy photorealism, cheap-looking anime style, or dated pixel art?
    66AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:16
    Re: #64
    Personally I hate that mid-tier crappy low-poly look the most.
    65AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:16
    FFBE's battle BGM is genuinely great
    https://youtu.be/ku5oJqc9fSw?si=ppFeK2JHg7gmbUpG
    100AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:45
    Re: #65
    It's so good that this masterpiece plays for every single battle in that game.
    67AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:17
    If you want to go retro, commit to it — no voice acting, no cut-in effects.
    69AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:22
    Re: #67
    If they want to pander to nostalgia fans, they should at least add an on/off toggle for that stuff.
    72AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:24
    Without Sakaguchi and Uematsu on board, this isn't the FF we've been wanting.
    76AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:26
    Re: #72
    Except Sakaguchi hasn't produced anything worthwhile since leaving Square, which made it pretty clear most of the credit belonged to his team.
    79AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:28
    Re: #76
    I think 'the Beard's' (Sakaguchi's nickname) real talent was pulling together a bunch of quirky, capable people into one team.
    Once he left, they just fell apart.
    80AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:29
    Re: #76
    He's actually put out some pretty fun games, though.
    They just haven't sold.
    Also, isn't he back with Square Enix now?
    77AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:27
    Once the FF7 Remake trilogy wraps up, the FF brand is basically finished.
    Even if FF17 comes out ten years from now, nobody's gonna care.
    81AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:29
    Re: #77
    They've still got enough steam to keep the series going, though.
    They'll just have to keep relying on whoever made the Romancing SaGa 2 remake or that plush-toy-style Dragon Quest remake.
    88AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:33
    This is full price, you know.
    89AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:34
    Re: #88
    Something like ¥7,000.
    91AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:36
    Re: #88
    Still better than Another Eden (mobile RPG).
    92AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:36
    Re: #88
    Sounds like it's got a decent amount of content, at least.
    93AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:37
    Just hand it over to the studio behind the Dragon Quest 'Reimagined' project already —
    they've got more love for Square Enix than the actual employees do.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/y7I4Q0xEqpg
    98AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:41
    Re: #93
    The DQ4/5/6 remakes will probably be up in the air between HD-2D and this style.
    99AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:43
    Sony's Sonezaki said something like this a while back —

    that once a company gets big, the people who join later tend to think mostly about money and themselves, with nobody left willing to take risks.

    Once a company grows large, it tends to change for the worse compared to what it used to be.
    103AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:46
    Re: #99
    Big-company disease is basically a fate that follows every industry.
    Should be interesting to see what happens once the AI industrial revolution hits.
    105AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:47
    Re: #103
    The 'AI industrial revolution' basically just means laying people off.

    There are a ton of incompetent execs out there, so once middle management gets wiped out, a lot of things are probably gonna go downhill fast.
    108AnonymousSep 6, 2026 01:49
    Re: #105
    It'll probably become less rare for a group of otherwise powerless individuals to outdo some big corporate production.
    In that sense, I've got some hope for this new era.

    Background and Talking Points

    “Final Fantasy Resonance” is a new title that develops the FF series’ classic Job system into a system called “Visions” — individually trainable phantom characters — with development handled by outside studio Lancarse, known for titles like Makibuou. In the thread, fans welcomed the graphics and how faithfully the monsters were rendered, while pricing information (around ¥7,000) drew mixed reactions — some called it steep for a full-price release, others argued that if this leans more toward a mobile-style project, ¥1,500–2,000 would be the more typical price point. Discussion also touched on the fact that series veterans Hironobu Sakaguchi and Nobuo Uematsu aren’t involved in this title, as well as speculation about what the franchise’s future looks like once the FF7 Remake trilogy concludes — turning the thread into more than just a simple new-game announcement. Note that the pricing and development details mentioned come from hearsay within the thread and are not confirmed by any official announcement.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nanademo Jikkyou G) thread “[Good News] ‘Final Fantasy Resonance’ Is Being Called the FF We’ve Been Waiting For.”

  • 1 in 3 Unmarried People ‘Refuse to Marry’ — 5ch Split Over Calls to ‘Introduce a Singles Tax’

    According to a survey reported by Toyo Keizai Online, roughly one in three young people say they’re refusing to marry because they don’t want to lose their free time. The original article argues that more troubling than this figure is the underlying spread of a mindset that simply can’t trust other people. On 5ch, the topic sparked discussion of anxieties about having no one to act as a guarantor in old age, along with the very real economic burdens of marriage — mortgages, education costs — while the thread split between people arguing for a “singles tax” and others firing back that it’s just parents shifting the blame onto single people.

    Published: 2026/09/05 07:15

    Takashi Kimura — Columnist, Relationship Consultant, TV Commentator

    INDEX

    Source: toyokeizai.net / Read the original article here

    4AnonymousSep 5, 2026 10:15
    By the time you're old and finally have free time and actually want to get married, it's already too late.
    123AnonymousSep 5, 2026 11:37
    Re: #4
    But once you get married, your spouse's relatives become a huge hassle. If they're the nagging type, it's the worst.
    21AnonymousSep 5, 2026 10:25
    What are you gonna do when you're old? You need a guarantor to be hospitalized, you need a guarantor to rent an apartment. Are you seriously gonna ask your parents or siblings to be your guarantor at your age?
    24AnonymousSep 5, 2026 10:26
    Re: #21
    By the time you're old, your parents will be dead, and your siblings will be elderly themselves and ineligible to be guarantors anyway.
    27AnonymousSep 5, 2026 10:32
    Re: #21
    Well, pretty much anyone could end up in this same situation, so the government and society will be forced to deal with it eventually — it's not that big a deal.

    I'm more worried about people with kids who took out reckless loans and are still stuck with debt hanging over them until they're 70. There's no way they'll stay healthy forever.
    180AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:15
    Re: #21
    There have long been companies that'll act as your guarantor for hospital admission or apartment contracts — are you out of the loop?
    Also, what's so bad about having your parents or siblings be your guarantor at your age?
    It's way lamer for a grown adult to only be able to ask their own kid to be their guarantor.
    35AnonymousSep 5, 2026 10:41
    You're not gonna do anything meaningful with all that 'freedom' anyway, so just go find yourself a partner already.
    54AnonymousSep 5, 2026 10:50
    Re: #35
    You're not gonna have some amazing marriage even if you find a partner, so just go enjoy the present already.
    39AnonymousSep 5, 2026 10:45
    Being unmarried is the best. Went to Kura Sushi with my boyfriend after work yesterday, put a stuffed animal on the table, and played with it like a doll.
    53AnonymousSep 5, 2026 10:49
    Re: #39
    At least go to a non-conveyor-belt sushi place lol
    51AnonymousSep 5, 2026 10:49
    People with kids should do some soul-searching. The dream house, the flashy Alphard (a status-symbol minivan) for appearances, 'you're not a real adult until you're married' — you got talked into marriage by social pressure, and what did you get? A 30-million-yen mortgage? Another 30 million yen to put one kid through college?

    End result: a household ledger buried in debt. Face the reality that you were groomed into becoming a fully-fledged slave of this exploitative, black-hearted society.

    In this unequal, exploitative society, it would be too tragic to watch if it drove someone to even take their own child's life.
    62AnonymousSep 5, 2026 10:51
    Re: #51 Re: #1
    The value of a currency is determined by the economic strength of the country that issues it.

    And the source of a country's economic strength is the supply and demand generated within it.

    Supply and demand aren't split between different people — every single person contains both supply and demand within themselves.

    Workers work harder to afford better things, and that's what grows both supply and demand, developing the national economy.

    Single people just stuffing money into NISA accounts (Japan's tax-free investment scheme) aren't contributing to Japan's economic growth at all — in fact, they're part of what's weakening the yen.
    61AnonymousSep 5, 2026 10:51
    I get it. I really get it. But young people don't realize their bodies will decline — your eyesight goes, your focus goes. By the time you realize 'oh crap,' it's already too late (a play on the meme 'toki sude ni oshi' — 'already too late' — which puns on the word for sushi).
    70AnonymousSep 5, 2026 10:58
    Re: #68
    Just like stamping your seal on a loan contract means you're taking final responsibility, marrying that wife of yours was your responsibility.

    Re: #61
    20s: You can get by without sleep~
    30s: You slowly start gaining weight and losing hair — this is around when checkups start flagging things
    40s: Your stamina completely stops recovering — this is when thorough exams start becoming necessary
    50s: You're already falling apart, just limping along

    It's sad, but this is simply the law of nature for us as living creatures.
    84AnonymousSep 5, 2026 11:07
    I've spent my whole life in environments with no women around, so to me women just look like some undiscovered species from an unknown ecosystem.
    108AnonymousSep 5, 2026 11:23
    Re: #84
    That's actually spot on. Better not to assume they're the same species as us (biologically speaking that's a wildly contradictory thing to say lol)
    96AnonymousSep 5, 2026 11:14
    Put pathetic middle-aged people doing marriage-hunting after they're already old into school textbooks as a cautionary tale.
    102AnonymousSep 5, 2026 11:17
    Re: #96
    We need to teach people that once you're old, it should be 'shukatsu' (end-of-life planning) instead of 'konkatsu' (marriage hunting) — end-of-life prep is hard enough for single people as it is.
    112AnonymousSep 5, 2026 11:27
    I get it when today's young people say these are the reasons they won't or can't get married. But when people in their 40s and 50s say the same thing, I can't help but think — didn't you just fail to get married?
    116AnonymousSep 5, 2026 11:28
    Re: #112
    That generation already grew up in the era of gender equality, so it's not that strange. If men and women are equal, there's no real benefit to marriage anyway.
    120AnonymousSep 5, 2026 11:32
    Compared to the distant past, the downsides of staying single and childless have shrunk. Entertainment and solo-lifestyle culture have developed so much that the old custom of dating someone you don't even like just to keep up appearances has disappeared. You can't slap some huge penalty on being single and childless, you can't restrict women's education and careers, and restricting adult internet access is even more out of the question — there's just no move left to make. Whatever you try, you just end up like Ceaușescu (Romania's dictator, infamous for his brutal pro-birth policies).
    121AnonymousSep 5, 2026 11:34
    Re: #120
    Just slap a singles tax that takes half their annual income.
    130AnonymousSep 5, 2026 11:43
    Re: #121
    For the ladies (a slightly mocking slang term for women): if you grew up being told 'find a rich guy and marry him while you're young, that's your happiness,' the times have completely changed on you since then.

    The husband you expected to be your personal ATM has his salary capped out, you end up having to go work too, car and house loans get hit by rising prices on top of it, you get roped into a joint loan as a co-guarantor, and once you realize married life is way harder than you imagined, you start screaming 'SINGLES TAX!' 😠
    139AnonymousSep 5, 2026 11:47
    Re: #121
    You can't collect it from low-income people or people with disabilities. And what about people with developmental disorders? What about people with incurable diseases? What about kids who grew up as caregivers for a disabled sibling? Basically, rich men are mostly already married with kids, and if you look into it, quite a few high-income women turn out to be on the developmental-disorder spectrum. Even if you wanted to collect the tax, there aren't many people you actually could collect it from.
    136AnonymousSep 5, 2026 11:46
    I mean, if you drill gender equality into people and then make men and women compete against each other in society, women stop looking like 'a fragile thing to protect' to men and start looking like 'an enemy to be defeated.' And in a free-love society like this, if men stop pursuing women, of course the number of singles is going to keep rising.
    141AnonymousSep 5, 2026 11:48
    Re: #136
    Yeah, but even with gender equality, women's baseline expectation is still 'protect me! provide for me!' That's exactly why there's such a huge rift between men and women.
    140AnonymousSep 5, 2026 11:48
    These are young people who don't trust others, so I actually think there's hope.
    146AnonymousSep 5, 2026 11:52
    Re: #140
    I mean, it really feels like they're just following in the footsteps of us internet folks. What a mess — should we restrict internet access or something?
    157AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:01
    But it'd make sense to jack up the singles tax and funnel that money straight into childcare support.
    160AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:03
    Re: #157
    Makes sense — tax it so hard that you literally can't survive without getting married. Then everyone will marry just to survive.

    Of course, gender equality collapses in the process.
    163AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:07
    Re: #160
    It's the perfect fix for the declining birthrate. If you don't want to pay it, just get married and have kids. And if you still don't want to, then work several times harder than married people, earn a ton, and pay the singles tax. This whole 'as long as I'm fine, whatever' mindset is just people wanting to coast through life.
    166AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:08
    Re: #160
    Just because people with kids caved to social peer pressure, got married, and now their lives are tough, taking that anger out on single people is a huge case of misdirected blame (lol)
    181AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:17
    Looks like the singles tax idea is really getting to these guys. This overreaction makes it crystal clear.
    185AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:20
    Re: #181
    People with kids should do some soul-searching. The dream house, the flashy Alphard (a status-symbol minivan) for appearances, 'you're not a real adult until you're married' — you got talked into marriage by social pressure, and what did you get? A 30-million-yen mortgage? Another 30 million yen to put one kid through college?

    End result: a household ledger buried in debt. Face the reality that you were groomed into becoming a fully-fledged slave of this exploitative, black-hearted society.

    In this unequal, exploitative society, it would be too tragic to watch if it drove someone to even take their own child's life.

    Background and key points of this discussion

    Behind the phrase “refusing to marry” lies not just the “loss of free time” the original Toyo Keizai article points to, but a deeper factor: a general distrust of other people. On the thread, the issue of guarantors in old age (for hospital admission and renting an apartment) came up again and again — but this is actually a practical matter that private identity-guarantor companies already handle, and choosing not to rely on family for this is far from unusual. Meanwhile, the “singles tax” isn’t an actual tax policy; it’s a catchphrase-level idea that tends to get conflated with existing debates over social insurance contributions like Japan’s child-rearing support levy, and the thread itself was split right down the middle on it. There were also posts linking gender-equality rankings (like the WEF’s) to “women not working,” but that’s a common misunderstanding — those rankings measure representation gaps in politics and the economy, not simply employment rate.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Breaking News Plus) thread “‘I’ll Lose My Free Time’: Behind the Survey Showing About 1 in 3 Young People ‘Refuse to Marry’… The Danger of ‘Not Being Able to Trust Others’ Is More Serious Than the Rise in Unmarried People.”

  • Bear vs. 61-Year-Old Man: 5-Minute Brawl Ends With Him Walking Down the Mountain Himself in Nagano — 5ch: ‘Couldn’t Even Beat a Retriever’

    On September 5, a 61-year-old man out picking mushrooms in the mountains of Takato, Ina City, Nagano Prefecture, was attacked by a bear. According to local TV reports, the man grappled with the bear for about five minutes, suffered cuts to his face and body, but made it down the mountain under his own power and is not in life-threatening condition. The bear is said to have been about the size of a large dog. On 5ch, the thread quickly filled with trivia about bear ecology and strength — the difference between Asian black bears and brown bears, whether bear bells actually work, cases of people fending bears off bare-handed — often veering into lighthearted riffs referencing video games and anime.

    9/5 (Sat) 20:39

    NBS Nagano Broadcasting News

    On September 5, in the mountains of Takato, Ina City, Nagano Prefecture, a man out picking mushrooms was attacked and injured by a bear. He is reported to be in stable condition, not life-threatening.

    Source: topics.smt.docomo.ne.jp / original article here

    10AnonymousSep 5, 2026 21:56
    I don't think I could win even if a Retriever attacked me.
    66AnonymousSep 5, 2026 22:19
    Re: #10
    I don't think I could beat my own cat if it went all-out.
    98AnonymousSep 5, 2026 22:40
    Re: #10
    When my toy poodle was a puppy, I had to fight it to establish the pecking order — that was pretty scary.
    158AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:07
    Re: #10
    I fought a hamster once too, and lost by a narrow margin.
    23AnonymousSep 5, 2026 21:58
    Taking a full 5 minutes and still couldn't finish off one old man — was the bear just playing with him?
    146AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:47
    Re: #23
    You're the ref next round
    and there's no playing dead this time (a pun on 死んだふり 'play dead' vs. レフリー 'referee')
    26AnonymousSep 5, 2026 21:59
    If it were Takamura, he'd have finished it clean…
    Guess age catches up with everyone… (Takamura: the near-invincible boxer from the manga Hajime no Ippo)
    104AnonymousSep 5, 2026 22:46
    Re: #26
    Nah, that's wrong — Takamura would've let it go out of mercy.
    27AnonymousSep 5, 2026 22:00
    Mushroom, bamboo shoot, and wild-vegetable season is truly a matter of life and death.
    77AnonymousSep 5, 2026 22:23
    Re: #27
    (´・ω・`) So which team are you on — mushrooms or bamboo shoots?
    29AnonymousSep 5, 2026 22:01
    A civil servant at 61? That's past retirement age.
    Did he lie about his age to get the job?
    38AnonymousSep 5, 2026 22:06
    Re: #29
    Never heard of post-retirement rehire? Sounds like you're out of touch with how society works.
    30AnonymousSep 5, 2026 22:01
    Five minutes grappling with a bear is a seriously long time.
    Isn't he embellishing a bit? lol
    41AnonymousSep 5, 2026 22:07
    Re: #30
    In an emergency, the body is wired to ramp up brain activity to boost your odds of survival.
    If your brain's firing at twice its normal speed, time would naturally feel like it's passing at less than half speed — that's probably what happened here.
    43AnonymousSep 5, 2026 22:07
    A brown bear, maybe, but an Asian black bear is basically a slightly buffed-up wild boar — an adult should be able to win a fight against one.
    The reporting is way overblown.
    47AnonymousSep 5, 2026 22:10
    Re: #43
    Talk tough all you want, you'd still be pissing yourself the second it showed up.
    70AnonymousSep 5, 2026 22:21
    Re: #43
    Are you underestimating a male boar? Its tusks will slice open the artery in your leg and you'll bleed out.
    50AnonymousSep 5, 2026 22:12
    An adult man losing to a bear in the first place is the real problem.
    Most people actually killed in these incidents are elderly grandmothers out gathering wild vegetables.
    62AnonymousSep 5, 2026 22:16
    Re: #50
    Bears are strong.

    Google 'bear strength' and you'll see — apparently their punch force hits several tons.
    59AnonymousSep 5, 2026 22:14
    Every old man and woman up in the mountains loves mushrooms, huh.
    74AnonymousSep 5, 2026 22:22
    Re: #59
    When I wasn't feeling well, I stumbled across a cheap direct-from-forager listing on Yahoo Auctions and bought it half as a joke, just for the story. It turned out incredibly delicious, and my health improved like crazy.

    The seller seemed to be a master forager — I was so grateful — but they must have retired, because I haven't seen the listing since.

    I tried to recreate it by buying something similar at the supermarket, but it was awful, overpriced, and did nothing for my health.
    I figure that was a miracle I happened to stumble into, but seriously, real deep-mountain bounty is on another level. It felt like it could add years to your life. Probably only obtainable in true backcountry spots nobody else goes to — you won't find that flavor even at a fancy restaurant.
    80AnonymousSep 5, 2026 22:24
    Re: #62
    That's a huge, wild swing of a bear hook —
    unless you're literally sticking your face out saying 'go on, hit me,'
    there's something wrong with you if that actually connects.
    128AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:18
    Re: #80
    81AnonymousSep 5, 2026 22:26
    152AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:55
    Re: #81
    Once you add 'fought a bear' to his resume
    he starts looking like the protagonist of The Fable lol (a manga about a hitman)
    84AnonymousSep 5, 2026 22:28
    Compared to that, the 'legendary Adachi Ward delinquent' wouldn't last 5 seconds lol (a well-known internet meme about a supposedly unbeatable Tokyo tough guy)
    94AnonymousSep 5, 2026 22:37
    Re: #84
    Like I said above, bears vary a lot individually — especially in temperament. They sell bear bells, right? Those work because the sound scares bears off. That tells you how timid some of them are. Turns out there are even ones that don't flinch at gunfire, let alone a bell.

    But whether it's a timid one or a bold one, a bear going all-out hits with several tons of force — so forget legendary delinquents, forget world-record holders, even a car body couldn't take that, let alone a person. Though humans are way ahead in brainpower, so with weapons a human wins hands down.

    By the way, nobody really knows why some bears are so skittish, or why the skittish ones seem to be vanishing around the Akita area, but one theory is that as hunters retire and dwindle in number, so does the population of timid bears — the idea being that bears used to sense hunters shooting other bears from kilometers away (a bear's nose beats even a dog's and can pick up activity kilometers off) and that's what kept them jumpy.
    93AnonymousSep 5, 2026 22:36
    If you fought a large dog for 5 minutes, you'd be dead.
    99AnonymousSep 5, 2026 22:40
    Re: #93
    Only if the large dog was actually trying to kill you.
    For wild animals, even a moderate injury can be a death sentence,
    so unless their life is genuinely on the line, they won't take that kind of risk.
    The '5-minute fight' probably includes staring each other down, not five straight minutes of punching and grappling.
    Even boxers spend plenty of time not throwing punches, and that time still counts as part of the match.
    100AnonymousSep 5, 2026 22:40
    It's because you went and took the bear's mushrooms without asking! Poor bear!
    103AnonymousSep 5, 2026 22:44
    Re: #100
    Do bears even eat mushrooms?
    125AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:16
    The Brawny Bear attacks!
    The old man takes 15 damage!
    The old man attacks!
    Dealt 3 damage to the Brawny Bear! (classic RPG battle-screen text, à la Dragon Quest)
    135AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:27
    Re: #1
    It's frustrating, bear (⁠・⁠(⁠ェ⁠)⁠・⁠)
    There's a hungry child waiting, bear (⁠・⁠(⁠ェ⁠)⁠・⁠)
    Don't you want to feed them something good, bear? (⁠・⁠(⁠ェ⁠)⁠・⁠) (a bear-emoticon copypasta where every line ends in 'bear' as a verbal tic)
    137AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:30
    Re: #135
    Mushrooms aren't even that great though.
    165AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:16
    There are hundreds of documented cases of Asian black bears being fought off by humans bare-handed.
    But put a human in a chain-link ring against a fully grown adult bear, and there's no way the human comes out alive first.
    There are also several documented cases of brown bears being fought off bare-handed.
    Here's one from a few years back:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yEhc4sn4fPE
    169AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:19
    Re: #165
    Well, fending them off does happen.
    Cases where a bear relentlessly tries to kill are rare — it's almost always just a warning display.
    They're not that aggressive an animal, and once something distracts them they'll usually just leave.
    168AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:18
    Old man: 'And that's the moment my right straight landed, see.'
    183AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:42
    Re: #168
    Sounds like he's gonna tell that story every single time the old guys get together lol
    187AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:53
    Here's the biggest bear ever kept as a pet:
    http://blog-imgs-46.fc2.com/n/l/i/nlife364/koda.jpg

    Just getting playfully pinned under one of these would suffocate you.
    Standing up on its hind legs, it's about 3 meters tall.
    It's an Alaskan Kodiak brown bear.
    The largest in the wild reach around 730 kg.
    In captivity, an old overseas zoo once had a massive, obese brown bear that reached about 1,100 kg.
    Even tigers in captivity have had a giant, obese specimen get close to 600 kg.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The bears Japan watches out for are mainly two species: the Asian black bear, found mainly on Honshu and further south, and Hokkaido’s brown bear — and the two differ greatly in size and temperament. Even in an encounter like this one, involving an Asian black bear, autumn is peak season for mushroom and wild-vegetable picking, and also the time of year when mountain accidents are most common. In the thread, opinions split over ‘how strong are bears, really’ — some compared them to little more than wild boars, while others floated claims of punch force reaching several tons, a figure with no solid backing that’s more urban legend than fact. The mix of information grounded in real bear ecology (bear bells, documented bare-handed fend-offs) with pure speculation is what defines this thread.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread ‘【(・(ェ)・)】’Fought the bear for about 5 minutes’ — 61-year-old mushroom forager climbs down the mountain himself with cuts on his face and body, bear was about the size of a large dog, Ina City, Nagano Prefecture‘.