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  • PS5 Has No ‘Signature New IP,’ Say 5ch Users: ‘We Even Invented the Unit “One Concord”‘

    PS5 will enter its sixth year since launch in 2026, but gaming media have pointed out that, unlike previous PlayStation hardware, there’s no new title that can be called “the game synonymous with this console” — and the topic blew up on 5ch’s console-war (geha) board. The original article cites titles like PS1’s Ape Escape and Crash Bandicoot, and PS4’s Horizon Zero Dawn, and notes that in the PS5 generation there’s even a case of a game that took 8 years to develop only to shut down its service two weeks after launch. In the thread, discussion centered on how Astro Bot, which won Game of the Year, is actually the third entry in its series rather than a new IP; how the disastrous flop of the big multiplayer title Concord kept getting joked about as “the face of PS5”; counterarguments that Nintendo similarly has few new IPs; and pointers that gacha games like Genshin Impact are effectively what’s propping up the PS5 install base.

    2026 marks a full six years since the PS5 launched.

    Every past PlayStation console had a new IP you could point to and say “this is the game that defines this hardware.”

    For the PS1 it was Ape Escape and Crash Bandicoot; for the PS4 it was Horizon Zero Dawn.

    Source: hashout.jp / Read the original article here

    2AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:37
    Astro Bot, the GOTY winner, isn't a new IP
    That's the third entry in the series
    17AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:52
    Re: #2
    And on top of that it's trash that bombed at only 1.5 million copies
    4AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:40
    Naughty Dog: "Just wait and see."
    5AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:42
    PS1: Ape Escape (series ended)
    PS2: God of War
    PS3: Uncharted (series ended)
    PS4: Horizon
    PS5: Marathon
    8AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:43
    Re: #5
    Marathon is actually an IP with quite a bit of history
    I still think Concord is the true face of PS5
    7AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:43
    Concord was supposed to become Sony's flagship — that's literally what they officially said. Which means Sony is finished.
    9AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:44
    Honestly, I kind of seriously think it's Concord
    10AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:45
    Concord is unprecedented trash — on a level where you could genuinely call it "the face of PS5," right?
    We even ended up with a console-war unit of measurement called "one Concord"
    12AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:47
    In a way, Concord did carve itself into memory and history
    13AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:50
    Re: #8
    Yeah, I feel like Marathon doesn't really fit
    15AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:51
    Astro Bot actually came out the year before last
    Seriously nobody's playing it, so it never comes up in conversation
    16AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:52
    Eight years in development and it's over in two weeks — what is it, a cicada? (a jab referencing how cicadas spend years underground only to live a couple of weeks once they emerge)
    18AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:53
    The free pack-in title ('Da-man'?) apparently 'sold' 20 million copies since it ships with every console, so cut it some slack
    20AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:53
    Wait, is this actually a 'please recommend me a fun PS5 game' thread lol
    21AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:53
    Wild that it won GOTY and Astro still has zero buzz
    22AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:53
    Nintendo's lineup is also nothing but sequels, remakes, and remasters —
    they don't have some amazing signature new IP either
    So is it 'only Sony sucks, only Sony's the villain' again?
    29AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:57
    Re: #22
    Ring Fit Adventure, 15 million copies♥
    A social phenomenon♥
    23AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:54
    Ghost of Yōtei is apparently the only one that sold pretty well
    24AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:54
    It pioneered a whole new genre called 'Concordian,' didn't it?!
    43AnonymousSep 13, 2026 14:02
    Re: #24
    How would you even know, how would you even know — Cordian, Cordian
    25AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:55
    Re: #1
    It was already gone back in the PS2/PS3 era, so that's just how PlayStation is (´・ω・`)
    37AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:59
    HD-2D keeps cranking out hit after hit in the 3-million-unit class,
    and it's fast and cheap to make too

    Sony, stuck obsessing over high-end graphics games, isn't reading where the industry is heading
    46AnonymousSep 13, 2026 14:06
    Re: #37
    So you're saying only cheap, quick-to-make, profitable games should get made,
    and everything should just turn into that kind of game?
    Is that really what people on the player side want?
    That's a weird take
    54AnonymousSep 13, 2026 14:10
    Concord's already a hall-of-famer, and Tokon (Marvel Tokon: Fighting Souls) looks like a pretty promising rookie too
    60AnonymousSep 13, 2026 14:14
    Re: #54
    MARVEL: "I'll wreck you"

    For what it's worth, here's the stream of the tournament final for an EVO France 2026 qualifying spot

    57AnonymousSep 13, 2026 14:11
    What are you talking about?
    Sony has plenty of powerful IPs
    58AnonymousSep 13, 2026 14:11
    Speaking of PS5, Genshin Impact
    People say that all the time lol
    59AnonymousSep 13, 2026 14:13
    Up until now third parties made up for first party's shortcomings, but all those third parties have been snatched away by the Switch 2 (´・ω・`)
    62AnonymousSep 13, 2026 14:16
    Re: #59
    It's really just mid-size-or-smaller Japanese games that only sell domestically, plus Capcom and Square Enix
    It's far from the 'every game is flocking to it' situation people were predicting before the Switch 2 launched
    Let's look at reality
    63AnonymousSep 13, 2026 14:17
    Re: #1
    What's strong about PS5 is that it can coast entirely on gacha/live-service games
    Genshin Impact, Honkai: Star Rail, Zenless Zone Zero, NTE, Wuthering Waves, Infinity Nikki, Hoshi no Tsubasa, Seven Deadly Sins
    eFootball, EA Sports FC, Sakatsuku, Phantasy Star Online 2, Dragon Quest X, Gundam Battle Operation 2, Yu-Gi-Oh! Master Duel, Dead or Alive 6 (free version)
    GTA Online, Apex Legends, Fortnite, Valorant, Overwatch, Roblox, Delta Force, Rainbow Six Siege, Once Human, Minecraft, Monster Hunter Wilds, Street Fighter 6, Gran Turismo 7
    Coming later:
    GTA6, Ananta (Mugendai Ananta), Animo, Hakugin no Shiro, Unmei no Trigger, Bringer, Mongiru, Lili's World, Yume no Compass, Loco Kingdom
    67AnonymousSep 13, 2026 14:29
    Re: #63
    Seriously, at that point it's just a giant smartphone
    78AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:07
    There's Genshin Impact, isn't there
    91AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:44
    Re: #78
    That's pathetically weak lol
    Looks like something a PS2 could run lol
    80AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:11
    There's Concord 1 through 5, isn't there
    The great Age of Concord
    88AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:34
    Re: #80
    What's wild is that all of it happened in the PS5 era
    94AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:52
    Ask any regular person and for the original PS it's FF7
    For PS2 it'd be FF10 or something
    From PS3 onward nothing else comes to mind
    The history of PlayStation is the history of Final Fantasy
    And once FF fell from grace, PlayStation stopped being everyone's console
    100AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:10
    Re: #94
    Way overrated
    To regular people FF is just seen as some creepy host-club-looking game (a jab likening FF's pretty-boy character designs to Japanese host-club hosts)

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Concord, the title that symbolically keeps coming up in the “PS5 has no new IP” debate, was a large-scale online multiplayer game reported to have taken roughly 8 years from the start of development to release — and it met an unusual fate, shutting down its service and issuing full refunds just two weeks after its August 2024 launch. The unit of measurement repeatedly joked about in the thread, “one Concord,” and the phrase “the great Age of Concord,” are both riffs on this incident. Meanwhile, Astro Bot, which won Game of the Year (The Game Awards), is actually the third entry in its series overall and isn’t a completely new IP in the strict sense — that’s the starting point for the criticism. Within the thread, a counterargument that Nintendo, too, mostly relies on sequels and remakes with few new IPs clashed with the rebuttal that third parties are nonetheless flocking to the Switch 2, and neither side reached a resolution. There’s also the observation that Chinese-made gacha games like Genshin Impact are effectively what’s sustaining the PS5’s active player base — a comment that reflects how the nature of home consoles is shifting, and reads as more than just wishful thinking about new releases; it points to a deeper shift in industry structure.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry (Geha)) thread “[Sad News] Media: ‘No “This Is the IP for PS5!” Title in 6 Years — Even a Case Where a New IP Took 8 Years to Develop and Ended in Two Weeks’.”

  • Hello! Project Graduates’ “I Never Wanted a Showbiz Career” Remarks Spark Debate — Post-Graduation Paths Become Hot Topic

    A Hello! Project member’s comment — “I didn’t want to break into showbiz, I just wanted to be active in Hello! Project, so I’m retiring from the entertainment industry the moment I graduate” — became a hot topic on 5ch. The thread was full of views like “no offers coming in, so it can’t be helped” and “staying in the industry is tough,” alongside candid takes on members leaving the "Hello! Project village," plus comments suggesting marriage is the best post-graduation path. Opinions split over whether it’s wiser to return to ordinary life early or stick it out in the industry.

    1AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:45
    What do you think?
    4AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:47
    Hope you stay happy and healthy even after quitting the idol life
    5AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:48
    She's just retiring because she can't hack it in showbiz
    7AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:49
    Surviving in the entertainment industry long-term really is tough, huh
    8AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:50
    Hm? Is this about Yamaki-san?
    9AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:50
    Graduating and retiring is the move for a girl who's thinking ahead —
    she knows sticking with a going-nowhere entertainment career is a bad play
    14AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:54
    It's not that I can't forgive it exactly, but
    a path like Ogata's just feels kind of off to me
    15AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:55
    They all just end up getting stripped down for gravure after graduating anyway (a cynical jab at ex-idols turning to gravure/adult work)
    16AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:56
    Fine by me, but don't go getting jealous if Juice=Juice blows up because of it, lol
    You were raised nice and cozy in the Hello! Project village after all
    so don't drag down the girls leaving the village
    17AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:57
    I mean, what's wrong with that?
    Whether she clings to showbiz forever or retires is fine either way
    it's her own call
    18AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:58
    Still comes off better than Yamaki, who didn't even want to join Hello! Project in the first place
    20AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:59
    "No work outside the village, so I'm quitting"
    — that's probably the most common reason
    21AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:59
    Better to quit while you're ahead and start your second life
    23AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:00
    Girls who fully retire young and stay out of the public eye probably just have a realistic head on their shoulders
    30AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:03
    That's a pretty standard Hello! Project storyline, isn't it
    — say you admire someone and get hyped up as the popular one
    31AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:05
    This is exactly how a Hello! Project member should be
    The agency should also lean harder into second-life support and openly position itself as an elite finishing school for future employment
    32AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:05
    Just my own guess, but I bet the number of members retiring keeps climbing from here
    There are just too many Hello! Project members now, so it's probably hard to even picture a career after graduating
    34AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:06
    I think it's fine for people like that to exist too
    especially girls who aren't great singers — continuing would be tough for them
    36AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:06
    The village's solo-act slots are about to hit their cap too
    37AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:07
    M-line's full up too
    46AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:11
    Ma-chan thought of Morning Musume as basically just an extracurricular hobby up until 2016
    51AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:13
    Re: #46
    Kago-chan used to call it a practice hall, as I recall
    54AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:15
    Is it not okay to say "I'll take what I learned in Hello! Project and put it to work in other entertainment jobs"?
    57AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:16
    Re: #54
    Probably not, I'd guess
    58AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:16
    Re: #54
    Probably just not enough time
    Anyone who manages to pull that off must just be talented
    63AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:18
    How'd it go for Akiyama again?
    76AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:22
    Re: #63
    No word on a hiatus or her stopping activities
    75AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:21
    Pretty much none of the current Hello! Project members could actually survive in the entertainment industry
    Even the village's money-making gigs get rough once you're past 30, so going back to normal life is the more realistic call
    86AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:27
    Re: #75
    Not just Hello! Project members — some people just can't handle it once the fawning attention disappears after even a taste of showbiz
    Like the senpai before them, the best path is probably small-scale work on the side while getting married
    80AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:23
    After doing this for years you'd figure out exactly where you stand
    and realize that even staying in the industry after graduating wouldn't bring much work anyway
    85AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:27
    Re: #80
    It's the Sakamichi groups' golden age right now
    Competition is already brutal just within the Sakamichi groups, so if you're in one of Hello! Project's lower-tier groups, you'd give up
    88AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:29
    It's different for members who live at home in the Kanto area versus members from the countryside
    89AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:29
    Re: #88
    Members from the countryside should just head back home
    A retreat from the capital (a classic case of falling from the big city)

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    Hello! Project leaves post-graduation career choices up to each member’s own wishes, and many members — Morning Musume。included — have continued their entertainment careers within a fixed fan base known as the “Hello! Project village.” In recent years, competition across the entertainment industry has intensified with the rise of groups like the Sakamichi series, and it’s said to be difficult to land offers from outside the village. The thread split between the view that “she’s retiring simply because there are no offers” and the view that “it’s wiser to draw a line early and return to ordinary life.” Increasingly, though, choosing to leave the entertainment industry right after graduating is framed not as a negative outcome, but as a forward-looking decision to lock in a stable life early.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Hello! Project member: “I never wanted to break into showbiz, I just wanted to be part of Hello! Project, so I’m retiring from the industry the moment I graduate” ← lolololol.”

  • Why Did Juice=Juice Break Out? Debate Rages Over Whether ‘Moré Mi’ Was Just the Spark

    Juice=Juice, a group under Hello! Project, saw its profile shoot up in 2024 thanks to the hit song “Moré! Mi Amore.” On the relevant 5ch thread, posters took it as a given that this song was the “spark” behind the group’s breakout, but debated what the real “reason” was for the support that followed. Opinions split between arguments centered on the group’s own strength — high-level singing, persuasive live performances, and a stable lineup lining up with the right song — and arguments pointing to external factors, like an industry atmosphere that had grown tired of the cutesy-idol formula.

    1AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:36
    Spark = "the event that led to something happening or becoming the case"
    Reason = "the underlying grounds or circumstances for why something happens or is the case"
    3AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:39
    Isn't it just the skill they'd already built up? Juice was already known as one of the best singing groups in Hello! Project to begin with.
    4AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:41
    Momoko Tsuganai: "Show business is all luck. But whether you can deliver results when your luck comes around depends on the effort you've put in up to that point."
    12AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:48
    Re: #4
    Tsuganai was talking about this on the radio even before her TV work picked up — like what her counter-strategy would be if she ever got called onto a variety show.
    5AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:42
    Talent met effort, met practice, met a stroke of luck, and it all clicked.
    6AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:42
    Goebbels: "Tell a lie a hundred times and it becomes the truth."
    7AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:43
    It's almost like an antithesis to the whole "look how cute I am" idol scene — I think it was the powerful vocals, led by Danbara, that really landed.
    8AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:45
    Given that cute, wholesome songs and idols are what's trending right now, maybe that's exactly why a totally different lane like Juice's was able to muscle in.
    9AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:46
    People started thinking, "This isn't idol-tier — this is the real deal."
    10AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:46
    What happens to Morning Musume fans once Juice locks down a Kohaku spot (NHK's big New Year's Eve music special)?
    https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm38400982
    13AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:50
    There just wasn't another notable full-on dance-vocal group around this year, so they ended up filling that slot. This used to be Avex's specialty too, you know.
    15AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:52
    The good song genuinely landed right when the group was at its absolute peak. In the past, even when a promising song came along, it'd get undercut by "the ace is about to graduate" or "half the lineup is still little kids" — but Juice had 11 members who could stand anywhere without embarrassment.
    16AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:52
    Unlike a group like HANA that leans into a "we're not really idols" image, Juice stuck to being idols while still pushing a skilled-performer angle — maybe that's the differentiation that worked.
    19AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:55
    It's having Rei and Ruru. Both of them bring a compelling personal story and performances persuasive enough to back it up.
    20AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:56
    There aren't many idols you can actually enjoy sung live. Might stir things up to say it, but even within Hello! Project there are a few groups that are shaky live.
    21AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:58
    They slotted into a position nobody else was occupying.
    24AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:00
    Probably because people got sick of the AKB-descended idol formula where it's fine to be a bad singer as long as you're cute. TV always wants impact and novelty, and the timing lined up perfectly for Juice. Look at the reactions from outside the fandom — it's mostly the vocal skill and the live performances that left a strong impression.
    53AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:26
    Re: #24
    But if you actually listen closely, Furuppa and Kyusuto (other idol groups) can all sing solidly too — it's not like Juice is THAT far ahead of everyone else.
    36AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:07
    The single biggest reason Juice=Juice took off is that their fans are down-to-earth — even the so-called "wolves" (a nickname for a certain breed of overzealous fan) don't stoop to spamming copypasta to derail the thread.
    45AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:14
    Summer 2024 — by this point they were in a state where it was fine for the wider world to discover them. Basically, they were ready to be handed off to new fans as a finished "product," so to speak. I think they'd already reached a level where they could hold their own against anyone else — the only thing left was how to actually get people to notice them.
    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1845779363280957440/pu/vid/avc1/1920×1080/284AXb2QU2PpAeGe.mp4?tag=14

    Every group has a window like that, and it lasts around two years, but then the cycle of graduations tends to start up again. So it really comes down to how much luck is on your side during those two years — whether you get blessed with good material and the agency actually puts its weight behind pushing you. If that all lines up, any group has a shot.

    Personally, I think Angerme also had a window to break out when Kamiko, Sasaki, and Take were all in the lineup together, and for Morning Musume, there was a window while Sato was still around. Luck, timing, how things line up — it really is tricky to pin down.
    49AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:16
    Re: #49
    Angerme actually dropped big swing songs like "Ai no Kedamono" and "Bibitaru Ichigeki" right around that time, but they never took off.
    52AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:25
    Re: #49
    Speaking of recent eras, I think Angerme around this period was ready, even though it was during COVID. Timing-wise, it really was an "it's happening!" moment.
    https://stat.ameba.jp/user_images/20220617/22/angerme-ss-shin/fc/cc/j/o1080081015134406554.jpg

    With clip videos from that time, you'd often see people who had no idea who the group was asking things like, "who's this, that three-way vocal break with Rika, Miko, and Take is so cool" — you don't really see that kind of reaction anymore…

    Every group has that "it's happening right now!" moment, and all you can do is hope a great song comes along during that fleeting window.
    68AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:32
    Isn't Moré Mi both the spark AND the reason?
    79AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:37
    Re: #68
    The song landing was also the moment people got to see the group's actual skill — it made the CDTV staff want more people to know about this group.
    71AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:33
    At the end of the day, even with an opportunity, if people don't walk away thinking "that was good, I'm curious now," it doesn't lead anywhere and the fanbase doesn't grow. Moré Mi was the spark, but Juice's real win was having already built up the substance to carry that momentum forward.
    86AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:42
    Re: #71
    Hear buzz about Moré Mi
    ↓
    Watch the MV ("huh, so it's like this")
    ↓
    Watch the Budokan live too since it's right there ("wait, isn't this actually amazing?")
    ↓
    Watch the Fiesta Budokan live ("this group is insaneee")
    ↓
    Fully hooked

    That's the pipeline for me, a Moré Mi newcomer.
    73AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:34
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    76AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:36
    They weren't trending upward at all before Moré Mi. Back during "Bourei" people were saying they were done for.
    82AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:41
    Re: #76
    But if you actually watched their lives, the group was doing perfectly fine.

    That final "Babyboon" was fantastic.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSsRK088f3E

    Basically, if they'd been blessed with the right song and the promotion and timing had lined up, the group itself was already in good shape. So I think a lot of people were kind of let down by the agency's approach around that time — betting everything on a cover song.
    81AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:39
    I think the biggest factor is that Moré Mi got people's "interest" pointed their way. What the group does hasn't really changed, but how it comes across flips 180 degrees depending on how favorably viewers are already disposed. Honestly, I'm not even sure why Moré Mi struck a chord — musically it's pretty average, run-of-the-mill stuff. Maybe viewers who'd grown tired of the whole "cute, cute" thing with bleepy-bloopy melodies and arrangements got drawn in by a slightly more kayokyoku-style melody paired with the Latin arrangement that Japanese audiences love so much.
    84AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:41
    Re: #81
    In the end I guess a Latin-style song just happened to suit the current Juice lineup well. The city pop direction they'd been milking for so long was a miss.
    92AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:46
    Re: #82
    As for the live performances, like people keep saying, Juice hasn't really changed from the old days — if anything, they sang better back when the original members were still around.
    102AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:54
    Re: #92
    That's true, but it also matters that the cycle of losing a member every year finally stopped. Without a stable stretch of two or three years without departures, it's hard to really push the group — you can't properly hand out your "business card," because then people go, "wait, that's not who was on the card." From Yanamin's graduation in 2019 all the way up through Uemura, Juice lost someone almost every single year.

    A graduation isn't just losing one member — it means losing someone with nine or ten years of accumulated skill and experience. If the group's lineup and new additions aren't properly balanced, the group's overall strength takes a real hit.
    100AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:53
    For Angerme, there was a stretch when Take, Rikako, Kamiko, Kawamura, Funaki, and Kasahara were all in the lineup together. That's genuinely strong — they really had enough momentum to close in on Morning Musume.
    107AnonymousSep 13, 2026 16:55
    Re: #100
    Well, Angerme from that era probably had better vocals and performances than JJ (Juice=Juice) does now.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Juice=Juice is a Hello! Project group formed in 2013 that has been known for its strong vocals from the start. Their 2024 song “Moré! Mi Amore” is considered the track that spread thanks to exposure on shows like CDTV and boosted the group’s overall profile. Where the thread split was on whether to treat the “spark” that triggered the hit separately from the “reason” support has continued since — some pointed to substance, like vocal skill and a stable member lineup, while others pointed to external circumstances, like other groups stalling out and viewers growing tired of the “cute” idol formula. That said, this kind of after-the-fact popularity analysis tends to lean on impression rather than proof, and nothing in the thread actually verifies how much each factor really contributed.

    ※This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Juice=Juice’s hit was sparked by “Moré! Mi Amore” blowing up — but what’s the actual “reason” Juice=Juice got popular?“

  • Ichiro, 52, Fires Complete-Game Shutout With 17 Ks in 9 Innings Against Girls’ All-Stars — Matsui Scores First Run

    An exhibition game between the “High School Girls’ Baseball All-Stars” and “Ichiro Select KOBE CHIBEN” was held at Tokyo Dome on the 13th, with Ichiro’s team winning 7-0. The 52-year-old Ichiro pitched a complete nine innings, striking out 17 batters and hitting a top speed of 136 km/h (about 85 mph), earning his second straight shutout win. Cleanup hitter Hideki Matsui also went 2-for-2 with an RBI and scored the game’s first run. Now in its sixth year, the event drew mixed reactions on 5channel: some praised it as good publicity for women’s baseball, while others were more skeptical, saying “I don’t actually feel like the number of players is growing” and “the skill gap is just too big.”

    “Two-Way” Ichiro Notches Second Straight Shutout with 17 Ks Over 9 Innings, Hits 136 km/h — “Cleanup Hitter” Matsui Also Goes 2-for-2 with RBI, Scores First Run

    ■High School Girls’ Baseball All-Stars 0–7 Ichiro Select KOBE CHIBEN (Tokyo Dome, 13th)

    The exhibition match between the “High School Girls’ Baseball All-Stars” and “Ichiro Select KOBE CHIBEN,” now in its sixth year, ended in a 7-0 win for KOBE CHIBEN.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:33
    Re: #1
    The fact that women's baseball even gets written up like this means the event is actually doing something meaningful, surprisingly.
    14AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:35
    Re: #3
    What's the point, though?
    Do you really think seeing this article makes anyone go "let's play baseball"?
    It doesn't, right? lol
    77AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:56
    Re: #3
    They've been running this event for years now — has women's baseball actually gotten more popular from it?
    Let's be honest, it's just Ichiro and Matsui getting the attention. Nobody actually cares about women's baseball itself.
    152AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:18
    Re: #3
    But this drains players away from softball, so from the people involved in softball, this can't be something they're thrilled about.
    21AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:38
    Girls' high school baseball ("yakyuu," playful slang for baseball) never really gets any spotlight, so they should probably be grateful for this before they graduate.
    Though it's a bit rough that the U-18 national team can't do a thing against an old geezer and his partner who are still ridiculously sharp for guys way past their playing days lol
    38AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:42
    Re: #21
    Apparently it's about the same in soccer — the women's national team versus middle school boys.
    Makes sense that no matter how much of a retired veteran he is, beating an ex-pro is still a tall order.
    27AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:39
    What level would this be for boys, then?
    About a high school team that just barely misses out on Koshien?
    88AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:58
    Re: #27
    Top speed is only 120-130 km/h, so that's roughly U-12 top-level.
    100AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:02
    Re: #27
    In pretty much every women's sport, they can't beat top-level middle schoolers.
    53AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:47
    Re: #42
    Are you seriously saying that? 😟
    66AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:52
    Re: #14
    Re: #53
    It's a PR activity — there's no way the impact is zero.
    75AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:55
    Re: #66
    So what kind of impact are we talking about, exactly?
    84AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:57
    Re: #75
    It'll help spread women's baseball.
    There are usually girls playing in boys' youth baseball leagues anyway.
    59AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:50
    Re: #54
    Even if Ichiro wasn't the one pitching,
    the media would eat it up anyway lol
    61AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:50
    Re: #59
    Well, if you've got that much name value, sure.
    74AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:55
    Re: #61
    Just the names Ichiro and Matsui
    are enough to hook people

    Ichiro doesn't even need to pitch

    A one-sided game where the high schoolers can barely get a hit
    is boring to watch and boring to play in

    Feels like it's basically just Ichiro getting to feel good about himself
    78AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:56
    Re: #74
    Exact same thought here.
    95AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:00
    Re: #74
    If some no-name guy were pitching instead, interest in the girls' side batting would drop to zero though.
    67AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:53
    It's impressive for a 52-year-old, but
    the fact that the girls' team couldn't hit him at all shows their level is just too low.
    If you're doing this for entertainment, it's not going to be interesting unless the opponent is like the champion of the National High School Baseball Championship.
    69AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:54
    Re: #67
    The genuinely talented girls play softball. The ones playing baseball are just the ones who love baseball so much they can't help it.
    82AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:57
    1996 Ichiro
    https://www.nikkansports.com/baseball/news/img/202607130001517-w500_7.jpg
    2026 Ichiro
    https://www.sponichi.co.jp/baseball/news/2026/09/13/jpeg/20260913s10001000161000p_view.jpg
    Who'd have thought he'd still be pitching at the same Tokyo Dome 30 years later
    89AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:58
    Re: #84
    They've been doing this for years, but far from spreading,
    women's pro baseball actually shut down and has been declining, hasn't it? lol
    102AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:04
    Re: #89
    Exactly — that's the problem,
    there's no real goal to aim for.
    It'd be great if it became like Koshien, where "you get to play baseball with Ichiro and Matsui" is the reason girls take up baseball.
    96AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:01
    Women's baseball isn't going to spread.
    There's already softball, after all.
    138AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:14
    Re: #96
    True, softball gets attention as an event at things like the Asian Games and the Olympics.
    Women's baseball could win the world championship however many times in a row and still get zero attention — the future looks bleak.
    140AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:15
    Re: #96
    In terms of participation numbers, women's baseball is up slightly while softball has plummeted.
    109AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:06
    I wonder if Ichiro just isn't cut out to be a manager or coach?
    He seems like the type to be strict about hierarchy, but I'm not sure how he'd be at actually teaching people.
    There's the issue of him not really having a team to go back to in Japanese baseball,
    but does that mean nobody in the US is calling him either?
    113AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:07
    Re: #109
    There's basically no manager or coach in baseball who actually teaches anything concrete anyway.
    It's just a title.
    126AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:10
    Re: #109
    He's actually been holding an honorary position with the Mariners this whole time though.
    135AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:13
    The important thing is just getting covered like this in the first place.
    If it weren't for Ichiro, this wouldn't be a talking point at all.
    144AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:16
    Re: #135
    But women's baseball only ever gets any buzz when they're playing against Ichiro.
    Has there been any actual progress beyond that?
    156AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:19
    Re: #135
    Exactly, and I think it's admirable that he's volunteering to be the crowd-drawing "panda" (slang for a celebrity used purely to attract an audience) for women's baseball, which normally wouldn't get any money or attention on its own. Among the world's major sports, most have thriving women's divisions, but baseball doesn't. There are various paths to making baseball a major sport, and promoting the women's category has to be one of them. The fact that Ichiro — a name recognized in both Japanese and American baseball — is taking on that role is honestly incredible, since done right, it could probably work in the US too.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The matchup between “Ichiro Select KOBE CHIBEN” and the girls’ all-star team is an annual event now in its sixth year, designed to draw attention to women’s hardball baseball — a sport that otherwise gets little exposure — by leaning on the drawing power of famous alumni. Opinions in the thread were divided over whether this kind of event actually translates into growth in the number of players. Since women’s hardball baseball and softball compete for the same pool of female athletes, some comments pointed to the complicated feelings this creates among people involved in softball. On the other hand, the criticism that one-off exposure riding on a celebrity’s fame doesn’t directly lead to a broader base of participants reflects a structural issue common to women’s sports in general. It’s not a simple matter of good or bad — opinions diverged depending on where people saw the real value of the event.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (Sports News+) thread “[Baseball] “Two-Way” Ichiro Throws Second Straight Shutout with 17 Ks Over 9 Innings, Hits 136 km/h! Cleanup Hitter Matsui Also Goes 2-for-2 with RBI, Scores First Run.”

  • Switch 2 Is the All-Purpose Machine That Plays Everything — 5ch: “Isn’t PS5 the One Nobody Needs Then?”

    A thread went up on 5ch’s Hardware/Industry board (“Geha”) after a user who owns a Switch 2, a PC, and a PS5 Pro posted on social media that “in the end I only play Nintendo games on my Switch 2.” Other users fired back one after another with arguments like “Switch 2 is the all-purpose console — you can play Nintendo games, third-party games, and indie games” and “By that logic, isn’t PS5 the one nobody actually needs?” The discussion eventually spiraled into a comparison of actual sales for multiplatform titles like Pragmata, and a tit-for-tat over how Nintendo and Sony calculate unit sales and first-party sales ratios differently in their earnings reports — turning into an endless back-and-forth where both sides kept trading evidence and rebuttals.

    1AnonymousSep 14, 2026 00:00
    紅城 蓮
    @kurenainoshiro
    What world is this person even talking about?
    5AnonymousSep 14, 2026 00:00
    By that logic, isn't PS5 the one nobody actually needs?
    8AnonymousSep 14, 2026 00:03
    If you're expecting AAA titles, why wouldn't you just go PC?
    57AnonymousSep 14, 2026 00:31
    Re: #8
    Probably thinks saying "AAA" makes the Pro sound more worth it
    That one line is really the only point they're trying to make
    Also notable that PC gets lumped in as "indie titles and other stuff"
    25AnonymousSep 14, 2026 00:11
    When you think about it, Switch 2 really is an amazing piece of hardware
    You get Nintendo games, most third-party games, and indie games too

    Meanwhile PS5 can't even run stuff like Chameleon or Suika Game
    37AnonymousSep 14, 2026 00:17
    Re: #25
    Suika Game actually runs on it lol
    35AnonymousSep 14, 2026 00:17
    So you limit PC to "indies only" and then go out of your way to play AAA on the underpowered PS5?
    Isn't that a bit weird?
    40AnonymousSep 14, 2026 00:18
    Re: #35
    Can't be helped, PlayStation's indie lineup is weak
    41AnonymousSep 14, 2026 00:19
    Pragmata (PS5)
    600 points over the past month

    Pragmata (Switch 2)
    1,000 points over the past month

    Capcom's not dumb enough to ignore this
    43AnonymousSep 14, 2026 00:21
    Re: #41
    For older titles, digital sales are everything
    Leftover physical copies gathering dust don't matter
    44AnonymousSep 14, 2026 00:22
    Re: #41
    Give it two years and that gap balloons to 40,000 units!!!!!!!
    48AnonymousSep 14, 2026 00:24
    Re: #41
    Pragmata's lifetime totals on Switch and PS might end up about the same
    Went from 35,000 vs 15,000 in week one, and the gap's already closing from week two onward
    47AnonymousSep 14, 2026 00:24
    People keep saying "just check the earnings report," but
    Sony's financials use US accounting standards, so they count third-party software sales at full retail value, right?
    Nintendo only counts its 30% cut

    As for unit counts, Sony counts each digital copy, add-on, and DLC as a separate unit sold,
    but Nintendo doesn't count digital DLC or add-ons in its sales figures at all
    58AnonymousSep 14, 2026 00:33
    Re: #47
    Nintendo also excludes download-only titles from the unit counts in its earnings

    Packaged software → counted
    Digital version sold alongside a packaged release → counted
    Download-only software → not counted
    Add-on content (DLC) → not counted

    56AnonymousSep 14, 2026 00:31
    Is console-war talk ("geha") trending on X now too?
    89AnonymousSep 14, 2026 01:06
    Re: #56
    The sheer number of "named" PlayStation accounts is insane
    It'd be one thing if they were just hyping up Sony, but all they do is trash other consoles — they even pile on Switch players just quietly enjoying Elden Ring
    59AnonymousSep 14, 2026 00:33
    Re: #44
    For example, in Q1 they sold 43.27 million units of software
    and first-party titles made up 82.6% of software sales revenue
    Sales and unit counts differ because of discounts and such, but doing the simple math, that leaves roughly 7.53 million units for all third parties combined
    81AnonymousSep 14, 2026 01:03
    Re: #59
    > first-party titles made up 82.6% of software sales revenue

    That figure is a percentage of sales revenue, not of unit count
    Stop lying so confidently
    62AnonymousSep 14, 2026 00:35
    PlayStation's share of the Japanese market has been rock bottom for nearly 10 years now with zero sign of turning around
    It's done nothing but shrink with every console generation, and it's already scraping the floor
    It's now in the danger zone, at or below the level of the Vita — a system Sony already gave up on entirely
    72AnonymousSep 14, 2026 00:45
    Re: #62
    Even now software sales are a garbage-tier disaster, but honestly this is just the opening act — an even more miserable decline is still coming
    74AnonymousSep 14, 2026 00:46
    On a revenue basis, third-party share is 17.4%
    Assuming first-party software averages ¥8,000
    and even pricing third-party software at ¥4,000, that works out to roughly 12 million units

    So third-party software sold on Nintendo hardware in Q1 lands somewhere above 7.3 million and below 12 million units
    84AnonymousSep 14, 2026 01:04
    Re: #81
    I already wrote that sales revenue and unit counts are different
    Even on a revenue basis it's not that different anyway Re: #74
    75AnonymousSep 14, 2026 00:49
    What AAA titles is anyone actually playing on PS5 Pro, seriously?
    77AnonymousSep 14, 2026 00:50
    Re: #75
    That Wolverine game — Metascore of 78, beatable in 13 hours, comes with a fart-cloud guideline and an obsessive amount of detail put into the arm hair
    76AnonymousSep 14, 2026 00:50
    The reason multiplats like Pragmata or Onimusha still win out on PS is simply that a lot of people can't picture buying Capcom's photorealistic games on a Nintendo system
    Performance and specs are actually weak excuses here — it really just comes down to habit
    Put bluntly, the crowd still buying on PS is a fixed, aging demographic with no future in it
    79AnonymousSep 14, 2026 00:55
    Re: #76
    It's because Nintendo's first-party lineup is so strong that buying third-party games just isn't a priority
    With first-party titles releasing constantly, money doesn't flow toward third-party games as easily — that's obvious from the earnings reports too
    85AnonymousSep 14, 2026 01:05
    Re: #79
    That's also just a matter of time
    The bigger the install-base gap gets, the more Switch 2 is going to win out on sales
    87AnonymousSep 14, 2026 01:06
    Re: #85
    That'll likely hold true for Japan at least
    Even right now, Switch 2 often wins the multiplatform matchup
    92AnonymousSep 14, 2026 01:08
    On last month's (August) PS Store download ranking,
    the fact that MGS — a title that sold only 12,000 physical copies that month — landed at #2 shows its digital sales can't be much to write home about either

    3rd place (new entry) PS5 METAL GEAR SOLID: MASTER COLLECTION Vol.2
    12,691 units (12,691 cumulative) / KONAMI / August 27, 2026
    https://www.famitsu.com/article/202609/86517

    August 2026 PS Store Download Ranking
    PlayStation 5
    Japan
    2. METAL GEAR SOLID: MASTER COLLECTION Vol.2
    https://blog.ja.playstation.com/2026/09/11/20260911-monthly-ps-store-ranking-s/
    94AnonymousSep 14, 2026 01:11
    Re: #92
    Even Honogurashi on Switch 2 — #2 in July, #1 in August — isn't exactly crushing it in monthly digital sales either
    97AnonymousSep 14, 2026 01:16
    Re: #94
    Switch 2 and Switch had Splatoon Raiders selling 90,000 units and Tomodachi Collection selling 70,000 units in August alone,
    and Honogurashi outsold both of those — that's exactly why its sales look strong
    96AnonymousSep 14, 2026 01:14
    It's almost inevitable that so many PlayStation people start console-war fights on X
    They're overwhelmingly hardware fans rather than software fans
    With Nintendo, that fandom branches out into Mario communities, Zelda communities, and so on
    but with PlayStation you almost never see a "Last of Us crowd" or a "God of War crowd," do you
    In the end the only way they can hype up their hardware is through the pretty low-brow tactic of comparing it to other consoles, and that's rough in more ways than one
    106AnonymousSep 14, 2026 01:29
    Re: #96
    True enough
    After the Zelda Direct, a ton of female YouTubers streamed watch-along reactions at the same time — women only tune in for the IP
    After the Fire Emblem Direct too, female YouTubers came crawling out of the woodwork
    And honestly, the guy saying "I only play Nintendo games on Switch 2" isn't buying every game out there in the first place
    He's only ever bought stuff that matches his own taste to begin with, and acting like he's covering every genre of game is just creepy
    99AnonymousSep 14, 2026 01:17
    Re: #97
    I'm talking about Switch 2 digital sales
    100AnonymousSep 14, 2026 01:22
    Re: #99
    Splatoon Raiders is a Switch 2 game though?

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    Discussions like this tend to talk past each other because Nintendo and Sony count software unit sales differently in their earnings reports. Nintendo excludes download-only titles and add-on content from its unit sales figures, while Sony, under US accounting standards, tends to count these toward revenue as well — meaning a simple unit comparison isn’t starting from the same premise to begin with. Within the thread, posts pointing out this difference in accounting methods coexisted with posts calculating ratios while ignoring it entirely, and the exchange of figures dragged on without any real resolution. It’s also worth noting for readers that the claim itself that “Switch 2 can play anything” isn’t backed by any data showing how many people actually play things besides Nintendo titles — it remains a back-and-forth rooted in personal impressions and individual buying habits rather than hard evidence.

    ※This article was compiled by excerpting and summarizing the 5ch (Hardware/Industry (Geha)) thread “A Switch 2/PC/PS5 Pro owner says: “I guess I don’t really play anything but Nintendo games on Switch 2…””.

  • Hybrids Now Dominate New Cars — 5ch Debates Why Pure Gas Models Are Disappearing

    An article noting that most new cars now come as hybrids (HVs), with pure gasoline-only models on the decline, became a hot topic on 5ch’s News Speed+ board. The thread ranged widely: worries about HV battery degradation and replacement costs, the cost-benefit math of whether fuel savings actually offset the higher sticker price, and pushback that gas engines are still genuinely needed in rural settings like farm equipment and mini trucks. The thread also cited data showing the average age of EVs in China is just 1.8 years, highlighting how differently cars are used there compared to Japan.

    Published 9/13 (Sun), 8:30 AM

    Toyo Keizai Online

    Look at the powertrains in today’s new cars and hybrids (HEVs) dominate overwhelmingly. A growing number of models don’t even offer a pure gasoline engine option anymore.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    4AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:31
    Even if regulations tighten further, just running HV engines on LPG would basically solve the environmental problem, wouldn't it?
    Besides, pull the engine out of an HV and you're basically already looking at an EV.
    36AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:01
    Re: #4
    Isn't that just e-Power? Or does it apply across the board?
    6AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:33
    It's a hybrid of muscle power and a motor, baby.
    71AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:33
    Re: #6
    My ride's a pure gas engine car — manual transmission, two-seater even… (^o^)/ boom.
    8AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:36
    With the Middle East as unstable as it is, who even needs pure gas cars anymore.
    12AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:44
    Re: #8
    Go say that to a farmer's face. Kei trucks, tractors, farm equipment, the whole lot.
    10AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:38
    What about diesel cars?
    15AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:48
    Re: #10
    Not bad, but automakers keep bailing on it. Volvo's diesel wasn't bad either, but it's gone from the lineup now.
    28AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:57
    Re: #10
    Sounds like a truck. That's embarrassing.
    18AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:51
    Japanese automakers must be sick of developing hybrids by now.
    47AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:08
    Re: #18
    That's just what's convenient for the automakers. Next they'll probably say 'we made it in time for the 22nd century' (a riff on the Prius's old ad slogan, 'we made it in time for the 21st century').
    20AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:51
    Motor drive is so smooth I can't go back to a car with just an internal combustion engine.
    94AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:57
    Re: #20
    Sounds like something a Nissan fan would say.
    29AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:58
    Gas cars are so noisy on startup. Hate that 'ka-ka-ka' sound the starter motor makes.
    49AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:09
    Re: #29
    I've got that turned off, though.
    51AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:11
    Re: #29
    Isn't that just a worn belt squealing, not the starter?
    58AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:17
    No idea about company cars, but for home use I'd think gas cars are more cost-effective — battery replacement costs way too much.
    73AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:35
    Re: #58
    How many people even keep a car long enough to need a battery replacement?
    80AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:43
    Re: #58
    True. People tend to overlook the auxiliary battery too.
    167AnonymousSep 13, 2026 23:09
    Re: #58
    If you don't drive much — mostly around town with the occasional trip or long drive — I think a pure gas car pays off better than an HV. Newer gas cars get something like 20km/L (~47 mpg) on the highway these days.
    59AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:20
    Drove a hybrid as a loaner once — hated how the engine feels like it's constantly kicking on.
    62AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:23
    Re: #59
    It kicks on way less than a regular gas car does…
    105AnonymousSep 13, 2026 21:08
    Re: #59
    Do you even drive, or do you just ride trains? lol
    82AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:44
    Hybrid batteries are consumables too and need replacing eventually, right?
    So then I start thinking, why not just get an EV?
    Realistically
    Realistically it comes down to gas or EV — a hybrid is a genuinely awkward middle ground.
    If you're planning to trade it in aggressively every 1-2 years before the battery degrades, though, a hybrid might make sense.
    107AnonymousSep 13, 2026 21:11
    Re: #82
    It'll easily last 10 years — maybe down to 70% capacity, but still going. If anything, EVs are the ones that are done for in 3 years lol.
    160AnonymousSep 13, 2026 22:57
    Re: #82
    Assuming you'll aggressively trade it in is the wrong premise to begin with.
    98AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:59
    There are all kinds of hybrids out there — why go out of your way to drive a Prius specifically?
    100AnonymousSep 13, 2026 21:00
    Re: #98
    These days the Aqua is the mainstream pick.
    109AnonymousSep 13, 2026 21:12
    Re: #98
    The Corolla series is what actually carries on the old Prius's role now — people who saw the Prius as just a practical, cost-effective tool have already switched over to that. But older folks who don't like the name 'Corolla' still insist on the 'Prius' name and keep driving one.
    103AnonymousSep 13, 2026 21:06
    How many people actually break even on the hybrid price premium through fuel savings, I wonder?
    115AnonymousSep 13, 2026 21:22
    Re: #103
    What matters is cushioning the blow if a disaster or Middle East crisis turns you into a 'gasoline refugee.' I'm not really counting on breaking even on the price difference.
    118AnonymousSep 13, 2026 21:33
    Re: #103
    If we're talking cost-effectiveness, a compact gas car is really the only choice.
    154AnonymousSep 13, 2026 22:55
    Re: #103
    Pretty much nobody, honestly.
    104AnonymousSep 13, 2026 21:06
    So many people think Suzuki's 'mild hybrid' (lol) is a real hybrid — it's not even funny.
    155AnonymousSep 13, 2026 22:55
    Re: #104
    Most European 'hybrids' (wink wink) are basically that too.
    177AnonymousSep 13, 2026 23:27
    Re: #104
    Which one's actually more of a 'real' hybrid, that or e-Power, I wonder.
    180AnonymousSep 14, 2026 00:08
    If you're not paying attention you'll blow past 100,000 km before you know it, and then a battery replacement costing hundreds of thousands of yen wipes out all the gas money you'd saved.
    Feels like you'd have to become one of those users kept on a leash by the automaker, trading in every 3 years like it's a subscription.
    184AnonymousSep 14, 2026 00:22
    Re: #180
    Drove my Prius 210,000 km and traded it in for 30,000 yen — never once replaced the battery.
    190AnonymousSep 14, 2026 00:56
    Re: #180
    Apparently in China the average time before people trade in an EV is now just 1.8 years.
    > A report by the China Association of Automobile Manufacturers (CAAM) and Hejun Consulting found that the average age of electric vehicles (EVs) in China is 1.8 years — far below the 8.2 years for gasoline cars.
    > This was reported by the Chinese newspaper 21st Century Business Herald.
    >
    > "Vehicle age" refers to years elapsed since new registration. According to the report, that's shorter than the span many people keep using the same phone.
    >
    > According to the newspaper, rapid advances in batteries, software, and semiconductor chips — along with falling used-car prices — may be behind this accelerating trend toward early replacement.
    > An EV's average resale value three years after purchase is reportedly 43.35% of the original price, lower than for conventional cars.
    ○ China's EVs average just 1.8 years old, under a quarter the age of gas cars — local paper reports, Bloomberg, 7/13

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    Behind hybrids (HVs) becoming the mainstream choice for new cars lies not just tightening fuel-economy regulations and a worldwide push toward electrification, but also automakers trimming their pure-gasoline lineups to hold down development costs. Opinions in the thread split mainly over whether an HV’s price premium actually pays for itself in fuel savings, with some arguing that the less you drive, the more a gas car makes sense. There was also the point that Suzuki-style ‘mild hybrids’ work on a different mechanism than a full hybrid capable of running on motor power alone, yet both get lumped together under the same ‘hybrid’ label — a common source of confusion. The thread also cited a report that the average age of EVs in China is just 1.8 years, but that reflects a trend toward early replacement driven by rapid battery and software advances and falling used-car prices — a very different context from how cars are actually used in Japan.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “[Automobiles] New cars are all hybrids now… why are pure gasoline cars being discontinued one after another? The “2030 problem” and automakers’ thinking behind it.”

  • “Everything Coming Out Lately Is Boring” — Why? 5ch Debates the Cause

    A thread that started with the post “Anime, movies, games, music — literally everything lately is boring” caught fire on 5ch’s Nanademo Jikkyo G (an “anything goes” board). What began as a debate over whether creators’ quality has declined or viewers’ way of engaging with media has changed soon grew into a full critique session, with posters naming specific titles like Parieto, The Odyssey, Madoka Magica, and NHK’s Taiga historical dramas. One side argued that difficult, connoisseur-oriented works have simply gotten harder to communicate to audiences; the other countered that it’s really just otaku failing to do their homework, with content overload dragging down relative ratings across the board. The debate ran on without either side budging.

    1AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:20
    Creators' quality has gone downhill
    3AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:20
    The audience's quality has gone downhill too
    6AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:24
    Re: #3
    It's because the audience's quality dropped that highbrow works don't land anymore.
    Something like Evangelion wouldn't even take off today.
    16AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:28
    Re: #6
    Huh? There was nothing highbrow about why that got popular.
    Might be different from the creators' side, though.
    22AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:31
    Re: #6
    More than "highbrow," I mean anime that requires you to savor difficult storytelling, art, and directorial detail — that's all done for now.
    Too many people only watch for the battles; even the Madoka Magica movie gets nothing but complaints that the fights are "meh."
    15AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:28
    Just go watch The Odyssey in IMAX already
    73AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:56
    Re: #15
    That's a movie Nolan didn't even need to make
    18AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:28
    There are more works pushing weird ideologies now, and we've reached a point where you can just say "the odd ones are odd because the creator sucks."
    These days, isn't everything just some work that a small clique worships like a god while everyone else calls it creepy?
    There's no more mainstream stuff that's mildly liked by everybody.
    20AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:29
    Re: #18
    Twilight of the Warriors: Walled In from last year was total mainstream crowd-pleaser material though
    26AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:34
    Nah, it's just that otaku have lost the ability to actually research things.
    Parieto and Mars Express were great but barely got talked about, right?
    The former's a completely original new work from Goro Taniguchi, no less
    28AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:35
    Re: #26
    Watched Parieto, it was trash lol
    Do you think finding that interesting is an old-man take that's out of touch with the times?
    39AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:41
    Re: #26
    It's less about research ability and more that we're gorged on entertainment.
    Same as with rice demand.
    33AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:37
    Re: #28
    Tell me specifically what wasn't interesting about it
    I liked the ballet dance sequences, the naginata sword choreography, and the girl-meets-girl coming-of-age story, plus the acting-driven direction worked for me
    36AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:40
    Re: #33
    It felt like a "beautiful world" dreamed up by an old person — so pretty it was almost funny.
    Young people won't fall for that, it's like "what is this, some new religion? A scam? A recruitment pitch?" that kind of vibe.
    Falling for something like that is exactly an old person's sensibility.
    37AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:40
    Go ahead and name the anime, movie, music, and game you personally think are the best?
    That'll pretty much tell us everything we need to judge
    38AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:41
    Re: #37
    Onyanko Club
    Yuyu
    52AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:48
    Re: #37
    Evangelion
    Haruhi
    Madoka Magica
    53AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:48
    Re: #37
    Megazone 23
    Songs by Yuyu and Onyanko Club
    40AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:42
    Re: #35
    Then don't go complaining about battles that people can enjoy without any extra effort.
    "The fights are awesome, and now I want to know more about this character, get immersed in this world" — that's how it's supposed to work once it clicks.
    I came here for curry, and you're telling me the pickled radish on the side is great — that's not what I asked for.
    49AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:46
    Re: #40
    Nah, the order is different for everyone.
    Plenty of works like Lain or Ghost in the Shell built cult followings where the atmosphere comes first, before anything else.
    There's no rule that says "battles have to come first" — that's just an excuse for not being able to enjoy anything besides the fighting
    41AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:42
    Re: #36
    Not really following your logic here, but if you only want to watch works that pursue pure realism, then something like Sister Act is nothing but a feel-good fantasy too — maybe that kind of story just isn't for you.
    Guess you should just stick to watching movies like Civil War
    43AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:43
    Re: #41
    If you don't get what I'm saying, that just proves it's an old man's sensibility
    46AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:44
    Re: #43
    You might not realize it, but right now you're doing the same thing as those otaku nitpicking that famous anti-war anime by going "that's not even a real bomber"
    51AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:47
    Re: #48
    I'm getting slapped with some label I don't recognize here, but
    at the very least I think your read on the work is off
    It's like watching "The Two of Us" and complaining that the caregiving methods shown are inaccurate
    56AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:50
    Re: #51
    You're the one who started with the labeling
    54AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:49
    Re: #52
    Was the Madoka Magica movie really that bad? I don't know that one
    89AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:02
    Re: #54
    Go see for yourself, dude
    Let's put a little money in the animators' pockets
    In M-1 comedy-competition scoring terms, Madoka Magica's a 99, Rebellion's a 96, and Kaiten's a 94
    55AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:50
    Yutaka Ozaki
    X Japan
    The Blue Hearts
    57AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:50
    Re: #52
    What about games and music?
    65AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:54
    Re: #57
    Music's covered in Re: #55

    Banjo-Kazooie
    Super Mario Bros. DS
    Pokémon Diamond/Pearl (DS)
    Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time
    Kid Icarus: Uprising
    Super Mario Galaxy
    61AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:50
    I hate the "things used to be better" mentality because it feels like giving up on thinking — but when it comes to Taiga dramas specifically, the old ones really were better.
    Why is that, I wonder?
    64AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:53
    Re: #61
    With Taiga dramas the datedness doesn't really bother you as much
    69AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:55
    Re: #61
    Part of it is that there was a much wider range of stuff you didn't have to worry about compliance-wise, so they could do whatever they wanted more freely.
    But honestly the bigger factor is that it was an era that benefited from Japanese acting being at its absolute peak
    70AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:55
    Re: #61
    Sometimes the old stuff is simply higher quality, plain and simple, but other times it's just that your brain got fried on a dopamine rush from having fewer things to compare it to back then
    68AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:54
    Re: #49
    Complaining about the battles and then turning around and saying "everyone's different" is just moving the goalposts.
    If everyone's different, then you should just shut up and take whatever rating people give it
    72AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:56
    Re: #68
    I'm not complaining and I do think everyone's different, but
    my point is that visual media is a comprehensive art form, and yet more and more people can only enjoy that one aspect of it — that's not a contradiction
    79AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:58
    Re: #72
    That's your own assumption too
    Doesn't seem like there's anything more to get out of arguing with you
    92AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:03
    Re: #79
    In the curry shop analogy, even if what comes out is pickled radish, the point I was making is that the radish is delicious in its own right —
    And especially with visual works, it's common for something to look like it's flying the "curry" banner but actually serve you radish instead. What I'm saying is there are more narrow-minded people now who go "it wasn't curry! garbage!" I'm not denying your taste, to be clear!
    87AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:02
    It's fun once you switch to being a creator yourself.
    I started composing music, and watching a track gradually turn into the one you imagined is a different kind of enjoyment than just consuming stuff.
    Plus when you share it and the play count goes up, it scratches that need for validation 🥺
    91AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:03
    Re: #87
    Might as well post it here then
    93AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:04
    Re:Zero and Mushoku Tensei are gross.
    Harem stories turning garbage the moment they lean into the harem angle has been a tradition since SAO.
    Give me Iron Wok Jan! any day
    101AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:09
    Re: #93
    That's not a recent work though, that's from over 10 years ago — so what you're saying is the old stuff was garbage too

    Background and key points of this debate

    The feeling that “things used to be better” is a debate that resurfaces every generation, and this thread is no exception — no single cause won here. Those pointing to a decline in creators’ quality clashed head-on with those pointing to a shift in how viewers engage with media, and neither side backed down. Part of the backdrop is that the explosion of streaming and subscription services has caused the sheer volume of available content to balloon, making it easier for the time and attachment people can devote to any one work to get diluted (the thread itself touches on this with the phrase “gorged on entertainment”). It’s also worth noting that the back-and-forth over real works like Parieto and The Odyssey tended to drift away from critiquing the works themselves and toward slapping labels on each other — “old man sensibility,” “narrow-minded” — based on differing reactions. And it’s worth keeping in mind, as a premise for this whole debate, that the older titles cited in the thread as “the good stuff” (Evangelion, Haruhi, Madoka Magica, etc.) weren’t universally beloved at the time either — their reputations solidified only in hindsight, years later.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nanademo Jikkyo G) thread “Why is everything lately — anime, movies, games, music — so boring.”

  • Arino and Morimoto Leo Named “Accidentally Saintly” Celebrities — 5ch: “I Don’t Buy the Hate”

    A thread went up on 5ch’s Livejupiter board (a general “anything goes” discussion board) titled “Top 3 celebrities who seem accidentally saintly,” naming Yoiko’s Arino and Morimoto Leo. Posters swapped stories of Arino being kind even when the cameras weren’t rolling, and recalled comedian Mitsuura Yasuko once calling him “a good guy” — but others pushed back that Morimoto Leo isn’t quite the saint his narration work makes him sound like. The thread also drifted into gripes that hosts like Nakai Masahiro come off as domineering compared to Hamaguchi Masaru, splitting opinion on how much substance really sits behind celebrities’ polished “nice guy” TV image.

    1AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:52
    Who's the third one?
    8AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:55
    It's all about the vibe, so what they're actually like doesn't matter.
    If anything, being an actual saint would be a bad look.
    14AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:59
    Watch Arino on Fuji TV (CX) and you can tell he's kind of a sleazy character.
    15AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:59
    Leo only seems saintly because of his roles and narration gigs — he's pulled some pretty questionable stuff off-camera.
    20AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:02
    I've actually watched Yoiko film on location before, and
    Arino was kind even when the camera wasn't rolling, so
    I don't buy people talking bad about him.
    48AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:11
    Re: #20
    Whoa, lucky you.
    Mitsuura Yasuko said he was a good guy too.
    25AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:03
    Never knew Hamaguchi was like that 🥶
    29AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:06
    Re: #25
    Nah, that's been obvious for a while —
    he's the Okamura type: high-strung, dead serious, moody, and hard on anyone who seems unmotivated.
    42AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:09
    Re: #29
    Couldn't you say the same about TKO's Kinoshita?
    Also, Okamura's really trashed his own image lately on the radio.
    40AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:08
    The way you're all talking makes it sound like Arino actually did something.
    54AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:12
    Re: #40
    All I can think of is how catastrophically bad he was at Smash Bros — that was basically a broadcast disaster.
    47AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:10
    Never liked how domineering Nakai's hosting style was.
    Same goes for Aritoshi and most hosts, honestly.
    62AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:18
    Re: #47
    Right?
    They're crazy condescending toward the staff.
    55AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:13
    Re: #48
    Hamaguchi wandered off the moment the camera stopped rolling, but
    Arino would still do a bit for us —
    though it was so boring I don't remember a single thing about it.
    65AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:20
    Re: #55
    Lol
    Arino's funniest when he's ribbing Hamaguchi — though we probably won't see much of that anymore.

    Background and Talking Points

    “Gū-sei” (ぐう聖, literally “accidental saint”) is common 5ch slang for someone who comes across as saintly seemingly without trying, and threads like this one often dig into the gap between a celebrity’s polished TV persona and their off-camera reputation. Here too, posters offered several secondhand accounts — claims about behavior “when the cameras weren’t rolling,” or reputations relayed from other celebrities — but it’s worth noting these are all anonymous, unverified anecdotes and hearsay, not statements Arino or Morimoto Leo have made publicly themselves. It’s also worth flagging that the original thread drifted off-topic into posters accusing each other of samefagging (posting under multiple names to fake agreement); this article only excerpts the replies that stayed on the “saintly celebrities” theme.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and summaries of the 5ch (Livegalileo board) thread “Top 3 ‘Accidentally Saintly’ Celebrities: Yoiko’s Arino, Morimoto Leo.”

  • Live-Action “The Apothecary Diaries”: Who Plays Jinshi? Even the Original Author Gives It Their Seal of Approval as “The Real Jinshi”

    In the popular series “The Apothecary Diaries,” now confirmed for a live-action drama adaptation, Ashida Mana has been cast as the lead, Maomao — but casting for the other central character, Jinshi, has yet to be announced. With only the tidbit that the original author gave the casting a seal of approval as “the real Jinshi,” speculation ran wild on 5ch, with names like Machida Keita, Meguro Ren, and Nomura Kota (Sawamura Ikki’s second son, as reported by the tabloids) all thrown into the ring. The thread also veered into basic questions about why the original series is so beloved, and the story behind the manga version’s move between publishers — all adding up to a mix of anticipation and speculation ahead of the official cast announcement.

    September 13, 2026, 13:01

    Kusuriya no Hitorigoto (The Apothecary Diaries), the light novel by Natsu Hyuuga that originated on the novel-posting site “Shousetsuka ni Narou,” is getting a live-action drama adaptation. The original series boasts over 57 million copies in cumulative circulation and has already been adapted into a hit TV anime, but this marks its first-ever live-action adaptation. It was also announced that Ashida Mana will play the protagonist, Maomao. Since no cast beyond Ashida has been announced, there’s buzz over who will play the popular character Jinshi.

    (Omitted)

    Source: mantan-web.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:09
    Machida Keita or Meguro Ren
    4AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:10
    It's not boring, but I don't get why everyone's pushing it so hard.
    Kind of like how I don't get why the Detective Conan movie broke 10 billion yen either.
    5AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:10
    Apparently Gaoshun is more popular with women than Lord Jinshi himself.
    9AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:12
    The tabloids already leaked that it's Nomura Kota.
    10AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:13
    The tabloids reported Nomura Kota (Sawamura Ikki's second son) for the role,

    but the fact that Sakurai Takahiro voiced him in the drama CD version is a "dark history" now lol (slang for an embarrassing past best forgotten — a jab at the voice actor's scandal)
    12AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:13
    So it means an actor famous enough that even my niece would know him?
    Like Okada Masaki or someone?
    13AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:14
    I don't think my niece would know who Nomura Kota (Sawamura Ikki's second son) is (´・ω・`)
    15AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:15
    Re: #13
    He's in Blue Lock too, you know
    65AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:11
    Re: #12 Re: #13
    You can't just assume he has to be an actor on the "my niece would know him" level.
    Maybe it's simply that whoever's playing Jinshi is super handsome, so "my niece kept smiling nonstop" is all that really meant.
    71AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:20
    Re: #13
    What's this about the niece knowing him?
    There's no mention of that anywhere.
    You doing okay?
    18AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:17
    Re: #17
    I was worried about the height gap, but if it's Ashida Mana the balance should work out fine.
    22AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:18
    In the original, Maomao's only wearing a wrapped cloth (in a certain scene), so please stay faithful to that.
    24AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:20
    If they were younger, Machida or Shizon would work, but they're too old for the part.
    25AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:21
    Why does everyone already know about this?
    What got people to start reading it in the first place?
    27AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:23
    Re: #25
    The illustrator got busted for tax evasion, which made it famous nationwide for all the wrong reasons.
    30AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:26
    Re: #25
    It stayed near the top of the "Shousetsuka ni Narou" rankings for a long time,
    the manga sells well,
    and the anime was a hit.
    32AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:28
    Re: #25
    The source material is classic shoujo-manga style, and it caught fire once the anime aired — same pattern as Demon Slayer.
    26AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:21
    I Googled Nomura Kota and he looks kind of soft/effeminate,
    but I guess that actually suits this character.
    39AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:35
    Re: #26
    Despite his looks, Jinshi is actually pretty well-trained and even something of a fighter.
    31AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:28
    Re: #1
    It's gotta be Yamazaki Kento, the usual go-to guy for every live-action adaptation, right? (lol)
    38AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:35
    Before it got popular, I remember wondering, "why are there two versions of this manga with different art styles?"

    Was it something like one sold well and the other one just ended?
    41AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:37
    Re: #38
    People distinguish them as "the Enix tax-evasion version" and "the Shogakukan tax-paying version" lol
    40AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:35
    Is this the "the original author already gave the seal of approval so don't complain" move?
    Even if people say the casting doesn't fit, he should just stand tall and prove them wrong with his acting.
    42AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:37
    It's gotta be Takeda Shinji for that role. How many times do you think he's read his own name backwards since he was a kid? (a joke about his name resembling "Jinshi" in reverse)
    47AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:40
    Re: #42
    Way too old for it —
    the character's only 18.
    43AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:39
    The author apparently said Jinshi is kind of an unlikable guy —
    so is calling someone "the real Jinshi" actually a compliment?
    48AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:44
    If only Dean Fujioka were younger…
    51AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:51
    Live-action adaptations of popular anime just never work out.
    If you're gonna do it, pick something with a minor anime that has no otaku following.
    70AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:17
    Re: #51
    The Look Back live-action film got huge promotion too,
    but I heard almost nobody's actually showing up to see it.
    52AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:54
    Where are they even filming this? The Forbidden City?
    53AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:54
    Soshina would be fine, right? (a comedian from the duo Shimofuri Myojo) I like Ashida Mana too.
    56AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:56
    I'm more curious about who's playing Xiaolan.
    63AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:07
    Re: #56
    Get a petite, pretty idol to play her.
    58AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:02
    Meguro Ren is the only choice, right?
    66AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:14
    Re: #58
    He's on the Johnny's "Kimutaku" track — he only takes lead roles, no way he'd take this.
    69AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:16
    Re: #58
    I think that's impossible since he's currently filming in Hollywood —
    he won't be back in Japan for a while.
    60AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:06
    They've hyped this up so much, I wonder how the cast announcement is even going to land.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    “The Apothecary Diaries” is a hit series that began on “Shousetsuka ni Narou,” with over 57 million copies in cumulative circulation and a hugely successful anime adaptation. This live-action project marks the series’ first such adaptation, and while Ashida Mana has been announced as lead Maomao, the role of the popular character Jinshi remained unannounced as of this writing. The thread floated actor names like Machida Keita and Meguro Ren, while also noting that tabloids had reported Nomura Kota (Sawamura Ikki’s second son) for the part, mixing anticipation with skepticism. The discussion also touched on how the manga adaptation once switched publishers and restarted serialization (due to the illustrator’s tax evasion scandal) — a real, separately reported fact that readers should be careful not to conflate with the Jinshi casting itself. In short, the single phrase “endorsed by the original author” has taken on a life of its own, driving expectations higher and higher even before any cast announcement.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Entertainment & Sports News+) thread “Live-Action “The Apothecary Diaries”: Who Plays Jinshi? Even the Original Author Gives It Their Seal of Approval as “The Real Jinshi”.”

  • Article on Countermeasures for ‘Dopamine-Addicted Brats’ Sparks Reaction on 5ch: ‘Feels Like It Was Worse in the Old Days’

    A Shueisha Online article about the term “dopagaki” — meaning “dopamine-addicted brats” — sparked discussion on 5ch’s News Express+ board. The term refers to young people whose attention spans have shortened from constant exposure to stimulating content like short-form videos, and the article featured experts discussing countermeasures. While the thread saw plenty of relatable examples, like kids who “throw tantrums in stores without a smartphone” or “watch anime at double speed,” there was also a steady stream of pushback arguing that “even the 1960 Crime White Paper shows the old days were more vicious” and that “things were worse before smartphones existed.” Opinion was split on whether today’s kids are really uniquely bad.

    Published 9/13 (Sun) 8:30

    Shueisha Online

    In recent years, the term “dopagaki” — meaning “dopamine-addicted brats” — has started appearing on social media. It’s mainly used to describe young people who binge through one piece of highly stimulating content after another, such as short-form videos. Concerns have been raised about resulting drops in concentration, so we asked an expert what countermeasures actually work.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    6AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:20
    Re: #1
    Just gotta brainwash kids into thinking being a "dopagaki" is a bad thing — tell 'em it's not cool.
    20AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:26
    Re: #6
    Knowing them, they'd try to watch the brainwashing propaganda at 2x speed too.
    8AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:21
    It's not just "dopagaki" kids, though.
    Look around — even people in their 30s and 40s are walking around like zombies, mouths hanging open, necks craned forward, staring at their phones.
    132AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:03
    Re: #8
    This.

    It's not about age or gender anymore.
    Those poor souls who've had their minds sucked into their phones
    look absolutely ridiculous from the outside.
    17AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:24
    Smartphone zombies walking in China
    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2089710252522418176/vid/avc1/720×720/FZ_Lg8KNXJpAI-0L.mp4
    41AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:33
    Re: #17
    There's probably been deaths from this too…
    18AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:25
    Parenting fail right there.
    My 9-year-old nephew kept begging for a Switch 2 every time I saw him, so I finally bought one and brought it over — he broke it almost instantly.
    My sister handed the busted thing right back to me.
    That's just how it goes.
    149AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:11
    Re: #18
    Your sister sounds awesome.
    19AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:26
    A lot of parents are glued to their own phones and don't even engage with their kids.
    25AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:28
    Re: #19
    Yeah, you see it all the time at family restaurants and food courts — mom and dad glued to their phones while the kid's absorbed in a handheld game.
    45AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:35
    The 1960 Crime White Paper's description of juvenile crime traits back then (i.e., today's "old geezers"):

    Impulsive: acting immediately and without planning to satisfy urges, without thinking things through — a result of immature adolescent minds.
    Pleasure-driven: crimes used to stem mostly from economic hardship, but from the late 1950s onward the motive shifted heavily toward the pursuit of pleasure.
    Group-based: guilt from committing crimes gets diluted through peer solidarity.
    Aggressive: strong defiance toward adults and authority.
    Excessive: killing people or animals even when just taking money would've been enough.

    And here's the actual juvenile crime numbers since the postwar era
    — the late 1950s stick out sharply.
    And it's mostly sex crimes, too — so it's not about economic hardship.
    ↓
    53AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:37
    Seriously, way too many parents at family restaurants just stick a screen in front of their toddler the whole time.
    59AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:39
    Re: #53
    It's because so many adults instantly snap the moment a kid cries or makes noise —
    adults are the ones indirectly manufacturing "dopagaki" kids.
    98AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:51
    Re: #53
    And they're so busy chatting the whole time that they don't even notice when their kid gets bored and wanders off.
    54AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:38
    Feels like things were worse before smartphones even existed, lol.
    Compared to the Showa era, kids these days are pretty tame.
    63AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:40
    Re: #54
    No question, kids used to run wild and be way worse-behaved back in the day.
    When were the people saying "today's kids are the problem" even born?
    70AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:43
    Re: #63
    Sure, kids used to act up, but they'd get smacked by their dad or yelled at by some random old guy and settle down. Now nobody disciplines them, they just let it slide, so it's a zoo.
    And the kids know it, so they do whatever they want.
    81AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:48
    Re: #70
    Plenty of parents back then were just as neglectful.
    You're romanticizing the past way too much.
    84AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:48
    Re: #70
    Feels more like parents are the ones being held hostage by their kids these days.
    89AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:49
    And now summer homework gets outsourced to AI, lol.

    Kids just keep getting dumber and dumber lmao.
    95AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:50
    Re: #89
    These days answer keys get handed out and kids grade their own homework at home, so copying the answers straight is faster than bothering with AI.
    122AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:58
    Ever notice how conversations on internet forums just don't sustain a back-and-forth anymore?
    Ask a question, someone gets angry. You get a hostile reply. They only accept agreement.
    Even when you get a reply, it doesn't function as a real conversation — it veers off into something totally unrelated.

    This kind of pattern has become way more common, hasn't it?
    124AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:00
    Re: #122
    Yeah, it's definitely gotten more common that it's not even a proper flame war anymore —
    it's like people are just replying on pure reflex.
    127AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:01
    Re: #122
    That's probably not kids doing that, lol.
    With smartphones becoming so widespread, huge numbers of elderly people have flooded onto the internet.
    If you look at the real world, kids are actually getting calmer year by year.
    Older people, on the other hand, are just as quick to snap as they always were.
    185AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:38
    Re: #122
    If you want to rebut something, your rebuttal should actually address what I wrote — but a lot of people just ignore all that, change the subject, and argue anyway.
    138AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:05
    Watching at 2x speed is the smart choice.
    143AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:06
    Re: #138
    At that point you should just stop watching it altogether.
    146AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:08
    Re: #138
    From what I can tell, your comprehension drops to less than half.
    You barely grasp what's actually going on.
    162AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:25
    I'll watch anime I'm just half-paying-attention to at 2x speed, but I don't speed up the ones I actually want to watch properly.
    163AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:27
    Re: #162
    If you're just half-watching anyway, why not normal speed?
    I don't get the point of lowering your comprehension even further when you're already not paying full attention.
    173AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:35
    Re: #162
    There's just too many anime, so I speed through them, and in the end I'm not even looking at the screen — half the time I'm not even listening to the audio.
    202AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:47



    This, exactly…
    210AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:51
    Re: #202
    Studying 2 hours every day and still getting that score? Isn't that kind of bad?
    203AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:47
    They should just make content with the assumption people will watch it at 2x speed.
    208AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:49
    Re: #203
    There's definitely robotic-sounding audio out there that's brutally hard to understand.
    I try slowing it down, but it's still hard to make out, lol.
    211AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:51
    Re: #203
    Also, there's content that's only barely watchable AT 2x speed to begin with.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    “Dopagaki” is slang that’s spread on social media over the past few years, mockingly describing the drop in concentration that comes from continuously binging on intense stimuli like short-form videos. As with the 1960 Crime White Paper quoted in the thread, laments about young people’s “decline” are nothing new — it’s an argument that recurs generation after generation. What stood out in this thread was that it didn’t stay confined to a simple “kids these days are hopeless” narrative. Opinion split between those who called watching at 2x speed a “smart choice” and those who argued it means “failing to actually understand the content,” and some pointed out that the parents who let their noisy kids run wild are themselves addicted to their phones. On top of that, a poster who criticized young people got called out and attacked as an “old geezer” in return, so the generational back-and-forth ended up playing out within the thread itself. Reading the “dopagaki” phenomenon as a problem unique to children misses this dynamic.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “[Is your kid a ‘dopagaki’ too?] “They throw tantrums in stores without a smartphone,” “They watch anime at 2x speed” — the ‘changes in kids’ parents fear, and the countermeasures experts recommend.”