The Hanshin Tigers were eliminated by the Yokohama DeNA BayStars in the Climax Series final stage, dropping three straight shutout losses before closing out the season with a last-pitch, come-from-ahead defeat in the deciding game. Three days later, a thread about Tigers fans’ reactions on 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyo G” board (a major sports/general chat board) drew a steady stream of mockery from rival fans saying “are you still on about this?” The discussion spiraled into a debate over the fairness of the Climax Series advantage system and a historical argument comparing the two teams’ league titles versus Japan Series championships, splitting opinion over whether a losing team has any right to complain.
That goes for the BayStars too
A team that got shut out three games straight and then blew it on the last pitch to a team like that is just asking to get mocked
If you lose after that, you can't really complain
But with the BayStars in that kind of shape, repeating what they did two years ago looks tough
Two years ago their defense was airtight for some reason
They lost the game Kuramoto dropped the ball in, so playing like that with errors won't cut it
During the regular season you could make it up the next day, but now there's no next game until next year lol
Funny how 'one pitch away' carries that kind of risk
Yokohama: 2 league titles
lmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaao
Yokohama: 3 Japan Series titles
Tigers: 2 Japan Series titles
?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Amen to that ✞ (mock 'amen' reaction to a brutal stat drop)
Isn't it a stretch to count titles from back when it was a single-league system?
If that were true, shouldn't there be a lot more 'giant-killer' Japan Series wins (by teams that didn't win their league)?
"Won the league, then got swept 4-0 in the Climax Series, and in the final game gave up three straight run-scoring hits to blow it on the last pitch" —
where does THAT rank, huh? lol
You guys are gonna get mocked for the next five months, so brace yourselves lol
It was 5-15 though
Even throwing in a run-differential advantage for the standings gap, they'd still lose
All that matters is whether it feels good or bad to you
If your favorite player gets hit, you're furious; if your team hits someone, it's 'you should've dodged'
What else is there to think?
That's just a weak argument
What are you even doing, half asleep?
If you're the one getting the short end of the stick, of course you're going to complain nonstop
No, if anything, if they'd won, they wouldn't be complaining
There'd be no reason to
Background and Key Points of the Debate
Under the Climax Series final-stage format, the team that finished first in the regular season is given a one-win head start. In the thread, the claim that “the Tigers would have advanced with a fair advantage system” was met with counterarguments that even factoring in run differential, the outcome wouldn’t have changed — leaving opinions on the system’s fairness divided. The other main flashpoint was over which team is “historically stronger,” with fans of each side citing different numbers depending on whether they counted league titles or Japan Series championships. Losing on the very last pitch and having the whole season end right there in a short playoff series is the kind of defeat that tends to stick vividly in NPB fans’ memories, which is likely one reason the topic kept generating buzz for days after the elimination. Note that this article omits posts that one-sidedly disparage fans of a particular team with derogatory language, as well as posts mocking real players’ injuries.
※This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “Tigers fans still griping even after 3 days lol.”
