Category: Society

  • Formaldehyde-Soaked Cabbage: Health Ministry Says China Confirms ‘No Exports to Japan’

    It emerged that napa cabbage was being shipped after being soaked in a formaldehyde solution in Hebei Province, China. Japan’s Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare explained that it inquired with the Chinese government and received a reply stating that none of it was exported to Japan.

    On 5ch, questions piled up over whether it’s really reassuring to ask the very party committing the wrongdoing and simply be told “there isn’t any.” Other posts described avoiding Chinese-made processed foods and pickles, explained the toxicity of formaldehyde, and brought up the past melamine-in-baby-formula scandal.

    Cabbage Shipped After Being Soaked in Formaldehyde Solution — Discovered in China, “None Exported to Japan”

    In Hebei Province in northern China, it was discovered that napa cabbage had been shipped after being soaked in the chemical formaldehyde.

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    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    5AnonymousAug 27, 2026 00:38
    'Oh good, that settles it then~'
    Yeah, as if!
    6AnonymousAug 27, 2026 00:39
    They asked the very people doing the fraud and got told it's fine, so that's the conclusion — no problem?
    This is exactly why Japan's Health Ministry is hopeless.
    7AnonymousAug 27, 2026 00:39
    To begin with, 100% of napa cabbage sold in Japan is domestic.
    The issue is processed foods.
    Well, processed foods get treated beforehand, so there's probably not much residue left anyway.
    8AnonymousAug 27, 2026 00:39
    Not worth trusting m9(´・ω・`)
    10AnonymousAug 27, 2026 00:39
    Taking that at face value is seriously gullible.
    11AnonymousAug 27, 2026 00:39
    If anything, it's being routed in through South Korea to dodge this.
    13AnonymousAug 27, 2026 00:39
    Those trendy málà tāng (spicy Sichuan soup) shops everywhere right now sound terrifying.
    69AnonymousAug 27, 2026 00:51
    "We asked China and confirmed none was shipped to Japan"
    That doesn't cut it — not from anyone with a shred of professional sense.
    109AnonymousAug 27, 2026 00:57
    Re: #69
    Nothing but anxiety here.
    103AnonymousAug 27, 2026 00:56
    Probably best to avoid Chinese products for a while.
    147AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:09
    Re: #103
    Do that and you'll have nothing left to buy.
    167AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:16
    Re: #103
    Ever since that gyoza pesticide-contamination incident, I've made an absolute rule of never buying Chinese products.
    Daiso's gummies are increasingly made in China now, but I refuse to buy them!
    A lot of peanuts are Chinese too, but I refuse!
    90% of store-bought jelly cups are made in China too, so I skip those.
    Pineapple jelly I'll buy since some uses Taiwanese pineapple.
    Mandarin orange jelly is 100% Chinese, so no thanks.
    112AnonymousAug 27, 2026 00:58
    Can't you just wash it off and call it good?
    206AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:28
    Re: #112
    If formaldehyde is ingested orally, it causes severe corrosive damage to the digestive tract, plus acute systemic poisoning from the formic acid it's metabolized into in the body.
    Aqueous formaldehyde solution is extremely toxic — even a small amount can cause serious, life-threatening harm.
    120AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:00
    I make a point of never buying Chinese-made pickles.
    I always throw out the pickles that come with bento boxes.
    122AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:01
    Re: #120
    You wouldn't know if the country of origin were faked, though.
    Restaurant chains probably fake it all the time too.
    135AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:05
    Of course they'd say that.
    Of course they would!
    142AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:07
    Re: #135
    Exactly this!
    I'd like them to explain exactly how they "confirmed" it.
    155AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:11
    There was also that time they put melamine in baby formula.
    189AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:22
    Re: #155 Seriously, what an awful country.


    In 2008, the harmful substance melamine was found mixed into infant baby formula in China, causing kidney stones and other health damage in a huge number of infants and toddlers.
    According to China's then General Administration of Quality Supervision, Inspection and Quarantine (now the State Administration for Market Regulation), by September 17 melamine had been detected in products from 22 of the 109 raw milk powder makers investigated.

    By the Chinese government's own count, the incident killed 6 people, and more than 300,000 infants suffered health damage such as kidney stones. Victims' families have voiced growing anger, saying compensation of 2,000 yuan per person (roughly ¥26,000, about $170) is far too little.
    158AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:13
    Shouldn't Japan just halt imports of all processed foods containing Chinese vegetables for now?
    Suspend it for about a year until safety is confirmed.
    China itself halted imports of Japanese seafood over a political dispute, after all.
    179AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:20
    The water pollution there seems worse than even Thailand's.
    Chinese goods, processed foods…
    you'd have to be an idiot to trust them.

    Re: #158
    Agricultural products, processed foods —
    a total import ban would be fine lol
    184AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:21
    This isn't a country that tells the truth just because you ask.
    What is this, a kid running an errand?
    196AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:24
    Re: #184
    Even if their own investigation finds it's in there, they'll still tell us "we didn't put any in" lol
    203AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:27
    Chinese food products really are dangerous.
    218AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:32
    Re: #203
    Cars made in China are scary too.
    There was a case before where they used tar-based materials with benzopyrene and the owner got cancer.
    Same with lead turning up in Chinese-made tableware, and carcinogens in clothing.
    224AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:34
    The fact that something like this even leaks out suggests China's situation might be really bad.
    225AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:35
    Re: #224
    If one case gets exposed, there are probably around 100 more like it that never come to light.

    Background and Key Points

    Formaldehyde is a preservative and antibacterial agent long banned for food use in China under its Food Safety Law, but enforcement gaps have surfaced repeatedly since local vendors use it to keep produce looking fresh during transport from inland provinces like Hebei. Japan’s food-safety system relies heavily on this kind of diplomatic inquiry: the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare does not independently test every shipment from China, but asks the exporting government to confirm compliance, and only escalates to import suspensions or intensified customs sampling if a violation is found in goods that already entered Japan. This is the same channel used after the 2008 Chinese-made frozen gyoza pesticide poisonings, an incident 5ch commenters reference as the reason many now distrust Chinese food assurances by default.

    The thread isn’t really split on whether formaldehyde is dangerous — everyone agrees it is — but on how much this specific case should change behavior. Some posters treat it as confirmation that all Chinese food products should be avoided outright; others (post 147) point out that’s practically impossible given how deeply Chinese ingredients run through Japan’s supply chain, from Daiso snacks to jelly cups to peanuts.

    What the thread misses is that fresh napa cabbage sold in Japanese supermarkets is almost entirely domestic (as post 7 notes but doesn’t dwell on), meaning this particular contamination poses little direct risk to whole cabbage on Japanese shelves — the real exposure route, if any, would be processed foods or restaurant ingredients where sourcing is far less transparent to consumers, which is exactly why country-of-origin labeling loopholes worry posters more than the cabbage itself.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread「Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare: “Cabbage shipped after being soaked in formalin solution — confirmed with the Chinese government that none was exported to Japan”」.

  • Monthly Living Expenses by Household Income: 5ch Reacts, ‘Wait, Isn’t That More Than the Income?’

    On 5ch’s News Express+ board, data on monthly living expenses by household income sparked discussion. Households earning under 2 million yen a year reportedly spend 173,000 yen a month — more than their annual income would suggest — while households earning 15 million yen or more spend 591,000 yen, highlighting a stark gap.

    In response to the question “isn’t it strange that living costs exceed income?”, commenters pointed to pensioners drawing down savings and differences in Engel’s coefficient (the share of spending that goes to food).

    (…)

    Key points

    – The average monthly living expense for two-or-more-person households nationwide is 314,000 yen.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    5AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:08
    How the heck do you spend 500,000 yen in a month?
    16AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:11
    Re: #5
    Household income of 15 million yen or more.
    95AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:43
    Re: #5
    This survey doesn't even list household size, so it's kind of a garbage study…
    14AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:10
    – Under 2 million yen: 173,000 yen
    That's gotta be fake. Welfare recipients (namapo) live on under 100,000 yen a month, don't they?
    25AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:17
    Re: #14
    Probably rising utility and rent costs. I'm in Saitama, and rent has shot up brutally this year. I've seriously considered moving from Saitama City to Kawagoe.
    24AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:15
    Hardly anyone makes under 10 million yen a year these days lol

    28 years old, 185cm tall, 25 million yen a year — got a problem with that?
    28AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:18
    Re: #24
    Sorry, you win. Started at 6 million fresh out of school, now in my fifth year making 7.5 million. Guess a college with a hensachi (deviation score, Japan's standardized measure of academic difficulty) of 65 just doesn't cut it.
    125AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:00
    Re: #24
    I've been a JRA (Central Horse Racing) jockey for 40 years — I lose on age (57) and height (170cm), but my prize money and riding fees this year might edge out yours a bit.
    27AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:17
    A household income of 2 million yen a year but spending 170,000 yen a month? That doesn't add up.
    29AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:19
    Re: #27
    40,000 yen of that is probably from consumer loans…
    120AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:58
    Re: #27
    Probably pensioners drawing down their savings.
    34AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:21
    Under-2-million households spending 173,000 yen a month
    173,000 x 12 = 2,076,000

    Wait, huh?
    44AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:24
    Re: #34
    That's probably just living expenses lol, no taxes included lolol
    36AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:22
    Isn't this way lower than other countries? Japan doesn't grow because it doesn't have enough ultra-rich people.
    38AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:23
    Re: #36
    But Japan's ultra-rich don't spend their money anyway.
    41AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:24
    Re: #36
    So more hyper-rich people supposedly means more growth — but growth of what, exactly?
    47AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:25
    Re: #36
    By that logic the Arab states should be the most developed nations around. And if you're going to claim they are, then why isn't any Arab country in the G7?
    42AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:24
    Food: 30,000 yen a month
    Cigarettes: 15,000 yen
    Utilities: just under 15,000 yen
    Own my home outright
    (´・ω・`)
    98AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:44
    Re: #42
    Property tax… where'd that go… phone/internet bill? Subscriptions? And why are your utilities so cheap?
    46AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:24
    For under 2 million a year, I'd guess it's more like 100,000 yen a month.
    52AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:26
    Re: #46
    Yeah, if you average it out including health insurance and national pension, it comes to about 100,000 yen.
    (´・ω・`)
    57AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:29
    Re: #46
    With a household income of 2 million yen, it's basically one of two options: rent in the 30,000-yen range and 130,000 yen for everything else, or rent in the 60,000-yen range and everything else in the low 100,000s. Because if you try to keep non-rent spending under 100,000 yen, there's almost nothing left for food. That's the reality at the bottom. No wonder people can't afford books, let alone a newspaper or NHK fees. And when this becomes society's core demographic, that's when you start hearing 'the earth is flat,' 'vaccines make people crazy,' Ministry of Finance conspiracy theories, or 'the JAL crash was a cover-up.'
    91AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:42
    The median household income is probably around 4 million yen.
    93AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:43
    Re: #91
    Think about Japan's average age… most people are past 10 million by then, and plenty are past 15 million too.
    126AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:01
    Re: #91
    For the child-rearing generation it's 8 million yen. It's just that there are so many retired pensioners dragging the average down.
    184AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:31
    Under 2 million yen: 173,000 yen

    Wait, isn't that more than the annual income?
    189AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:34
    Re: #184
    Pensioners drawing down their savings.
    209AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:51
    Re: #184
    Their savings rate is like -60%.
    195AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:39
    – Under 2 million yen: 173,000 yen
    – 2-2.5 million yen: 192,000 yen ← up to here is the range where national-pension retirees draw down savings
    – 2.5-3 million yen: 216,000 yen
    – 3-3.5 million yen: 241,000 yen
    – 3.5-4 million yen: 260,000 yen
    – 4-4.5 million yen: 265,000 yen
    – 4.5-5 million yen: 279,000 yen
    – 5-5.5 million yen: 292,000 yen
    – 5.5-6 million yen: 298,000 yen
    – 6-6.5 million yen: 300,000 yen
    – 6.5-7 million yen: 315,000 yen
    – 7-7.5 million yen: 319,000 yen
    – 7.5-8 million yen: 318,000 yen
    – 8-9 million yen: 350,000 yen ← average for the child-rearing generation, includes added child-rearing costs
    – 9-10 million yen: 366,000 yen
    – 10-12.5 million yen: 432,000 yen ← for child-rearing households, this also includes private middle-school exam prep costs
    – 12.5-15 million yen: 467,000 yen
    – 15 million yen or more: 591,000 yen
    197AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:42
    Re: #195
    Actually, the average spending for a 3-person household is around 300,000 yen, so the average for the child-rearing generation is probably more like the 6-6.5 million yen bracket.
    203AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:47
    Re: #197
    https://www.bk.mufg.jp/column/others/b0079.html
    https://www.bk.mufg.jp/column/others/img/b0079_img05.jpg
    This is from 2023 statistics.
    6-6.5 million yen? (ヾノ・∀・`) no way, no way
    223AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:56
    For the 15-million-yen-plus bracket, average income is 19 million yen. Consumption spending is 590,000 yen, of which food is 130,000 yen (Engel's coefficient 22%), transport/communication is 100,000 yen, education/entertainment is 70,000 yen, and other miscellaneous expenses are 110,000 yen.
    236AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:58
    Re: #223
    ● For reference, the 2-million-yen households have an Engel's coefficient of 35%. They're scraping by just to eat.
    252AnonymousAug 26, 2026 22:08
    Re: #223
    The average annual income for households under 2 million yen is 1.53 million yen. Monthly consumption spending is 170,000 yen, food is 60,000 yen (Engel's coefficient 35%), utilities/water are 20,000 yen, transport/communication is 17,000 yen, education/language study is 15,000 yen, and other miscellaneous expenses are 22,000 yen.
    232AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:57
    Does 'living expenses' even include food?
    237AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:59
    Re: #232
    Well, obviously.
    238AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:59
    Re: #232
    Originally it's just 'consumption spending' being called 'living expenses.'

    Background and Key Points

    The figures come from Japan’s Family Income and Expenditure Survey (家計調査), run by the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications, which tracks two-or-more-person households by annual income bracket. It reports gross consumption spending, not just visible cash income, and it lumps together very different households within the same bracket: a working single mother, a couple in their 30s, and an 80-year-old retired couple can all fall into “under 2 million yen a year” despite having nothing else in common. The 314,000-yen national average cited in the piece is the same survey’s overall two-or-more-person figure, useful as a benchmark against which both the bottom and top brackets look extreme.

    Where the thread actually diverged was on whether the “under 2 million yen households spend 173,000 yen a month” line is even plausible. One camp treated it as a data artifact, comparing it unfavorably to Japan’s welfare (seikatsu hogo) minimum, which can leave recipients living on well under 100,000 yen monthly. The other camp, which won out by the later posts with sourced figures, argued this bracket is dominated by pension-income retirees who are deliberately drawing down savings rather than earning enough to cover spending — a well-documented and normal pattern in Japanese retirement finance.

    What the thread never states outright is that this is a household-count survey, not a size- or age-adjusted one: it doesn’t separate single-elderly, single working-age, or family households, so bracket-to-bracket comparisons of “spending vs. income” are structurally misleading rather than evidence of anything alarming.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “Monthly Living Expenses by Household Income, Latest Data: High-Income Households Top ¥590,000 a Month”.

  • Ministry Seeks Tax Reform to Curb Speculative Condo Trading

    Japan’s Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism (MLIT) has reportedly decided to include measures to curb speculative trading of newly built condominiums in its tax reform requests for fiscal year 2027. Currently, properties sold within five years of purchase face a heavy capital gains tax, and tightening this rule appears to be the focus. On 5ch, users traded worries about a repeat of the Heisei-era bubble collapse against claims that the real driving force behind speculative money isn’t Chinese buyers but Taiwanese investors and wealthy Japanese individuals and flippers.

    The Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism has decided to include measures to curb soaring prices of newly built condominiums in its fiscal 2027 tax reform requests. The move addresses how speculative condo trading, disconnected from genuine housing demand, has been pushing up real estate prices in urban areas.

    The ministry explained the plan at a Liberal Democratic Party meeting on the 25th. The specifics will be worked out by the ruling coalition’s tax panel by the end of the year. Currently, selling a condo within five years of purchase triggers a heavier capital gains tax.

    Nikkei 2026/08/25

    Source: nikkei.com / Original article here

    6AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:45
    Prices are rising so hard that people can't even afford the inheritance tax anymore — these things are destined to become ghost tower condos.
    106AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:48
    Re: #6
    Tower condo? Low-rise? If it's in a decent spot, a realtor will lowball-buy it off you, so it'll be fine.
    13AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:47
    Wasn't it stuff exactly like this that caused the bubble to burst last time?
    112AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:51
    Re: #13
    Isn't it different depending on whether you're talking about the buy side versus, more so, the sell side?
    23AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:50
    The tax on real estate profits from sales within 5 years is already 40%, right?
    Are they really raising it further?
    32AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:54
    Re: #23
    If the government hates this situation, they can tax it like old-school income tax rates.
    If people keep getting greedy, I could totally see it hit 90%.
    35AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:57
    Just tax 99% of gains on any sale within 30 years, honestly.
    40AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:01
    Re: #35
    B-but what happens if you end up taking a loss…? (trembling voice)
    42AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:02
    Please don't tell me policies that used to stall out are suddenly speeding up now that Komeito is gone.
    46AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:06
    That's exactly why I'm saying this is way too late.
    61AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:23
    It's because Komeito dropped out of the coalition.
    If Komeito still held the MLIT minister post, this never would've happened.
    After all, the main source of speculative money in Tokyo condos is foreign buyers, especially Chinese ones.
    68AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:27
    Re: #61
    Okay, but what does any of that have to do with Komeito?
    70AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:28
    Re: #61
    Chinese real estate investment has actually been cooling off since about two years ago.
    Even in a survey done this year, more than half the buyers were Taiwanese.
    Foreigners only make up about 3% of buyers to begin with.
    For high-end properties, the main players are wealthy Japanese individuals and flipping realtors.
    97AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:46
    There are elites at the top who own real estate, so there's no way they'll actually regulate this.
    100AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:47
    Re: #97
    Exactly — they sold everything off to Chinese buyers to cash out.
    They've probably already made their exit.
    107AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:48
    Re: #97
    Harvesting tax from that would actually make for a decent funding source though.
    122AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:59
    So they'll officially admit there's a real estate bubble,
    but won't admit there's a stock bubble too.
    Both are just being driven up by foreign money though.
    124AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:02
    Re: #122
    A stock bubble doesn't do much to the birthrate,
    but soaring costs of food, clothing, and housing utterly wreck marriage and childbearing for people in their 20s.
    126AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:04
    Re: #122
    Both are just being driven up by foreign money though —
    though at least for the latter, that hasn't really held true lately, has it?
    129AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:06
    Is this really going to crash though?
    If it does, maybe a few years out?
    Guess I should start planning a move.
    132AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:07
    Re: #129
    Bubbles burst suddenly, you know.
    Didn't you know that?
    190AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:47
    Re: #129
    The government pulled something similar right before the Heisei bubble collapse too.
    By around summer of '89, people who knew real estate prices were about to crash had already sold off and gotten out.
    Then in 1990, the Japanese economy went into full collapse mode.
    146AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:17
    If speculative money pulls out, the elite couples who bought at the peak with joint mortgages will end up underwater on their loans.
    Regulating this now would be a disaster.
    148AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:21
    Re: #146
    What are you even talking about?
    They were able to buy at that price at the time, so it's not 'overpriced' at all — that was the fair market price.
    155AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:25
    Re: #146
    There's no such thing as an elite who buys at the top.
    153AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:24
    Population's shrinking and yet real estate keeps skyrocketing, huh.
    160AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:28
    Re: #153
    Following Indonesia and Vietnam, the Chinese Communist Party will suddenly start restricting outbound travel.
    Japan's China-driven real estate bubble will pop just as suddenly too.
    Just watch.
    161AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:30
    Re: #153
    Population's shrinking and yet prices keep rising, see?
    171AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:39
    Seriously, stop this…
    Last time, this exact move led to 35 years of stagnation.

    China's doing the same thing — surpassing the US in cutting-edge fields like AI, robotics, and aviation, while its property-driven domestic demand collapses. It's becoming the world's top industrial power even as the nation itself declines.
    177AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:41
    Re: #171
    That trauma is exactly why they keep reacting too late on everything.
    184AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:44
    Re: #171
    China's basically put into practice the theory that sacrificing ordinary citizens is no big deal —
    they can handle real estate dying off just fine.
    You can't judge them by Western common sense.
    182AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:43
    This is looking like it's only going to climb even more.
    I bought a condo in Shibaura back when prices crashed after the Great East Japan Earthquake, taking out a brutal 40 million yen loan.
    The same type of unit now sells for over 200 million yen, so I can't stop laughing.
    188AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:46
    Re: #182
    Are you going to cash out?
    195AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:51
    Re: #182
    Same thing happened with Kioxia stock —
    people who say 'I can't stop laughing' mostly end up not knowing when to sell and get all mopey about it later.

    I keep thinking someone should coin a name for this phenomenon.
    183AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:43
    Honestly, if they crash real estate prices with this,

    Japan will never be able to go back to being a developed country again.
    185AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:45
    Re: #183
    With the yen this weak, 'developed country' is a joke anyway.
    191AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:48
    Re: #183
    Japan's already a developing country at this point.
    The yen barely has any credibility left, which is exactly why prices are like this.

    Background and Key Points

    Japan’s capital-gains tax on real estate has long turned on a five-year holding-period line: sell within five years and “short-term transfer income” (tanki jōtō shotoku) is taxed at roughly 39% combined national and local rates, versus about 20% once you clear five years. That gap has existed for decades and has always shaped how flippers time their exits rather than stopping speculation outright. What MLIT filed on August 25 is a request to tighten that existing five-year rule as part of the FY2027 tax reform process — ministries submit requests over summer, the ruling coalition’s tax panel hashes out specifics by December, and any change would only take effect from around spring 2027, not immediately. The backdrop is the late-1980s Heisei bubble, whose 1990 collapse (following land-related lending curbs introduced too late) opened three decades of stagnation that Japanese commentators still invoke reflexively whenever land-price intervention is discussed.

    The thread’s real disagreement wasn’t over whether to act, but over who is actually buying: one camp blamed Chinese capital and tied the timing to Komeito’s exit from the coalition, while others cited survey data showing Chinese investment cooling for two years, Taiwanese buyers now over half of foreign purchasers, foreigners only ~3% of buyers overall, and domestic wealthy individuals and flipping realtors as the bigger force in high-end Tokyo condos.

    What nobody raised is the domestic supply side: years of near-zero rates (only exited in 2024), plus labor and materials shortages driving up new-build construction costs, have pushed prices up independent of any foreign money at all — making “foreign speculators” a much smaller part of the story than the thread’s framing suggests.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Newsplus) thread “Curbing Speculative Condo Trading: Ministry Seeks Tax Reform to Rein In Soaring Prices.”

  • What Do ‘Easy-to-Walk-All-Over’ People Have in Common? Kindness Backfires, Body Type and Hygiene Also Blamed

    A thread on 5ch’s News Express+ board asking what “people who get walked all over” have in common took off. Posters shared stories of nurses and subordinates dumping work on them the moment they showed kindness, claims that being under 160cm makes you an easy target, and debates over the effects of hygiene and weight training. Things also took a dark turn with one ominous claim that “the common trait among murder victims is looking down on other people,” sending the thread in an unexpected direction.

    Q. Are there traits shared by “people who are easy to walk all over”?

    — Even doing the exact same things as everyone else, some people just end up getting talked down to or treated carelessly, right? It’s almost like people decide “I can say anything to this person.” Mr. Tamaru, you’ve run writing workshops for all kinds of people, from elementary schoolers to corporate trainees — from that experience, do you think there’s a common trait among people who somehow always get walked over?

    Masatomo Tamaru (hereafter, Tamaru): I see.

    Source: diamond.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:15
    So what if I get walked all over?
    What's the actual problem
    5AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:17
    Re: #2
    It stresses you out getting pushed around, that's what
    46AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:26
    I get walked all over, but I've got 100 million yen (~$650K) in investments.
    Since that makes it dangerous to be seen as a doormat, I'm not telling anyone — I'll just keep living as one in silence.
    166AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:49
    Re: #2
    Being treated lightly has nothing but downsides
    It obviously hurts your promotion chances too
    3AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:17
    This is exactly why so many doctors end up disliked by nurses
    Be kind to them once and the nurses start dumping tons of work on you
    217AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:58
    Re: #3
    Exactly right.
    Be kind and they'll hand you every annoying task.
    Make them think you're scary and they stop coming to you.
    And if you're kind but later can't keep meeting their expectations, you get hit with complaints and gossip behind your back
    225AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:59
    Re: #3 Re: #217
    Once people start walking over you in a leadership role at work, you're finished
    8AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:18
    Weight training so I don't get walked over
    24AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:22
    Re: #8
    Takayoshi Nishikawa: "Damn right." (T.M.Revolution frontman known for his muscular build)
    33AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:24
    Re: #8
    You can lift all you want — if you're not clean and put-together, you'll still get walked over
    204AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:55
    Re: #8
    Unfortunately, in white-collar jobs, muscle doesn't matter
    13AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:19
    On the flip side, the common trait among murder victims is people who disrespect and look down on others
    Most murders come down to that
    19AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:21
    So at the warehouse, is it that I'm the only one the staff work to the bone and yell at because they expect a lot from me, or is it because I'm actually being walked over?
    The guy doing it is a full-time employee in his mid-20s and I'm 47, so I didn't think I'd be someone people push around, but I always get yelled at and made to carry nothing but heavy stuff, with stuff like "hurry up, idiot!!" constantly
    Isn't it more likely they're just going hard on me to recommend me for a permanent position?
    32AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:23
    Re: #19
    Don't ever lose that positive thinking
    42AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:26
    Re: #19
    That's right, nothing to worry about at all
    193AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:53
    Re: #19
    Record it and report them to the harassment hotline
    20AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:21
    I'm a shorty under 160cm (5'3"), so I really do get walked all over
    40AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:25
    Re: #20
    Maybe it's from all that piling up, but I feel like short people who turn out vicious are pretty common
    181AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:52
    Re: #20
    That's why short people tend to snap a lot
    That guy's short too, and since he gets walked over at work, he's yelling every day
    It doubles as stress relief
    Being thought of as "that troublesome person" is just about the right amount
    27AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:22
    Re: #20
    Just put on some muscle
    135AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:44
    Re: #27
    35AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:24
    People always end up parking themselves right next to me ("tonarareru" — someone sitting or standing right beside you even when there's empty space elsewhere)
    even on train platforms
    somehow it's only the area around me that gets crowded
    36AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:25
    Re: #35
    Do dogs and cats come up to you, or not?
    50AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:27
    Re: #35
    Maybe you're secreting something?
    88AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:35
    https://imgur.com/7DQKLSG.jpeg
    94AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:36
    Re: #88
    That's my junior from my Kaisei days! 🤣🤣🤣 (Kaisei — one of Japan's most elite prep schools)
    108AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:39
    You need to be okay with being disliked
    Even if it's just an act, showing a more aggressive side makes you harder to walk over
    Kids who become bullies to avoid being bullied themselves are instinctively making that same rational calculation

    It's also important not to think of people who try to walk over you as human
    Nobody gets their feelings hurt from a stray dog barking at them (not that you see many strays these days)
    Same idea — think "oh, some trash is making noise" and you can just tune it out
    123AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:42
    Re: #108
    A boss who steps in and backs you up when a subordinate runs into trouble doesn't get promoted
    A boss who says "that's on you" and abandons all supervisory responsibility when a subordinate runs into trouble does get promoted
    That's just how the world works
    129AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:43
    Re: #123

    This, exactly
    Though honestly I used to think "well, some percentage of that was actually your fault"
    157AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:47
    Re: #123
    The type who fires people also tends to get in good with the higher-ups and get promoted
    "I can cut the fat" types are an easy sell to management
    134AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:44
    This is me last month, taken by a girl friend of mine 🤣🤣🤣
    178AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:51
    Me, 36 years ago
    That's a Sakai Moving Service jumpsuit I've got on 🤣🤣🤣
    180AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:52
    Re: #178
    My bad
    That was 32 years ago 🤣🤣🤣
    198AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:54
    This is me from earlier this month 🤣🤣🤣
    207AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:55
    I do think Taira no Masakado had some understanding of hiragana
    The path of fortune and misfortune, and confusion, though
    211AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:56
    Re: #207
    That's the road I drove for work today 🤣🤣🤣

    Background and Key Points

    Diamond Online’s “compiled from 5ch” format packages an advice-column interview (with writing coach Masatomo Tamaru) alongside reader reactions from 5ch’s News Express+ board, one of the site’s largest general-discussion forums. The underlying workplace dynamic the thread keeps circling — a senior worker (here, doctors) extending courtesy to subordinates (nurses) only to be buried in extra tasks — reflects Japan’s steep senpai-kohai and hospital hierarchies, where niceness from someone with formal authority can read as an opening rather than a kindness. The “harassment hotline” suggestion in post 193 refers to the pawahara (power-harassment) consultation lines companies have been legally required to provide since amendments to Japan’s labor law took full effect for all employers in April 2022 — a concrete institutional backstop the poster assumed everyone would recognize.

    The thread doesn’t actually converge on one explanation. It splits three ways: kindness-as-invitation (posts 3, 217), physical stature (posts 20, 27, 33, 181, with under-160cm/5’3″ flagged as a marker, notably short since average Japanese male height is around 171cm), and sheer attitude or muscle-building, which one poster (204) dismisses outright for white-collar work.

    What’s easy to miss is how quickly the thread abandons its own question: after post 108’s genuinely dark advice about dehumanizing aggressors, the conversation dissolves into selfies, an old Sakai Moving Service uniform photo, and a non sequitur about the 10th-century rebel Taira no Masakado — a pattern typical of 5ch threads drifting from substance into in-jokes rather than resolving the original premise.

    *This article is compiled and condensed from the 5ch (News Express+) thread「The Common Trait Among People Who Somehow Always Get Walked All Over, Worst Case #1」.

  • Fukui JA Chairman: “Guide Rice Prices to ¥20,535 per 60kg” — Rice Glut Sparks Review of Production Controls

    Miyata, chairman of Fukui Prefecture’s JA (Japan Agricultural Cooperatives) group, has called on the national government to buy back government stockpiled rice and reconsider production controls in response to falling provisional rice prices. On 5ch, opinions split between letting market forces decide and using tax money to support farmers, with criticism of JA’s distribution system and even extreme calls to abandon domestic farming altogether in favor of imports.

    Koichi Miyata, Chairman of Fukui JA

    “The cost benchmark (¥20,535 per 60kg) needs to become the standard. The government needs to implement policies that guide prices toward that level.”

    Following a sharp drop in provisional rice prices, Chairman Miyata of the prefectural JA group stressed the need for the government to buy back stockpiled rice and review production controls in order to resolve the rice glut.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article

    10AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:10
    Is it true that the rice sitting in surplus right now is the stuff they were hoarding last year?
    144AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:29
    Re: #10
    Reiwa 7 (2025 harvest) rice coming out now is normal timing, but the Reiwa 6 (2024) and Reiwa 5 (2023) harvest rice is the stuff from when everyone was screaming "we're short, we're short!"
    So basically, any rice on store shelves right now that isn't from the Reiwa 7 harvest is that stuff.
    19AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:12
    The public wants to buy rice cheap.
    Farmers want to sell rice high.
    So why doesn't the government just subsidize rice farmers with tax money? There's no need to sell rice at high prices.
    If you leave it to the market, farmers will disappear.
    51AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:18
    Re: #19
    This would be fine.
    There are some things you shouldn't leave entirely to market forces.
    This should take priority over those excessive gasoline subsidies.
    68AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:20
    Re: #19
    Look at the world's major agricultural powers.
    Small and mid-sized farms died out there long ago — it's all large-scale operations now.
    Japan, meanwhile, is nothing but tiny farms, all thanks to generous government policy.
    26AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:13
    Our food self-sufficiency rate is already low — if we stop growing rice too, Japan is finished.
    Maybe that was the whole point of driving up rice prices last year.
    It's still suspicious that nobody's given a clear reason why rice prices spiked so much last year.
    34AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:14
    Re: #26
    Just grow other crops that actually make money lol
    There's no reason to be stuck on rice lol
    62AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:19
    Jacking up the price is pointless if there's nobody left to buy it, you know?
    There's plenty of good bread and noodles out there now, so consumers have gotten used to alternatives.
    All that price-gouging pushed people who used to eat rice three meals a day down to just one or two.
    At this point, unless someone actually gets made an example of, consumers aren't going to look twice at rice again.
    63AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:20
    Why doesn't JA just set up a system to sell the rice it buys directly?
    The price goes up while it's being passed from one middleman to another, right?
    If I could buy 6kg for ¥2,050, I'd buy it without a second thought.
    110AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:25
    Re: #63
    JA just buys up the big sacks of unmilled rice straight from farmers in bulk and passes them along — that's it.
    They don't mill it, they don't weigh and bag it by the kilo, and they won't do individual shipping.
    If you told JA to actually do all that, it'd cost just as much in labor and materials.
    The only way it'd actually work is if you brought your own sacks, paid for your own transport, drove up to the farm yourself, and bought the unmilled rice directly.
    66AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:20
    Couldn't JA just cover the shortfall itself?
    78AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:22
    Re: #66
    Exactly.
    That's supposed to be JA's job in the first place.
    Instead of looking out for consumers, they're right there jacking up prices along with everyone else.
    77AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:22
    I switched to rotating staples instead of just rice, and honestly each one tastes better that way — I don't think I'll ever go back to rice-centered meals…
    92AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:24
    Re: #77
    Japanese rice isn't even that delicious to begin with.
    You need a dedicated rice cooker for it.
    Eating it spikes your blood sugar like crazy.
    It kind of felt like waking up — I lost my attachment to rice.
    89AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:23
    When rice prices spiked last year, the media made a huge fuss about rice vanishing from store shelves and where it all went, spouting nonsense like "foreign tourists are buying it all."
    So in the end, was JA just sitting on a warehouse full of last year's rice the whole time?
    Not shipping it out when it was scarce, then having a mountain of old rice right before the new harvest season — that's just idiotic.
    103AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:24
    Re: #89
    JA plus the wholesalers, basically.
    100AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:24
    Aichi

    New-harvest Akitakomachi (rice variety), ¥1,780
    108AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:25
    Just let domestic agriculture go extinct at this point.
    Fully switch over to imported crops.
    There's no need to force yourself to eat domestic produce.
    Imports get you the same stuff cheaper anyway.
    127AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:27
    Re: #108
    This.
    We don't need to grow domestic rice or vegetables anymore.
    Just switch entirely to imports.
    Most Japanese people feel this way.
    138AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:28
    Re: #108
    Seriously.
    No Japanese person would be inconvenienced if domestic farmers disappeared entirely.
    If anything, they're a nuisance.
    179AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:33
    Re: #108
    Unless you've got overwhelming military or economic power, other countries will see you as an easy mark and force you to pay through the nose for produce.
    Or you end up sending people abroad as immigrants just to have fewer mouths to feed.
    113AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:25
    Japan Meat (supermarket chain)

    Last year's Fukui Koshihikari (rice variety) being dumped at ¥1,999


    116AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:26
    Re: #113
    That's still pricey.
    Knock it down another half off, bam!
    125AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:27
    Re: #113
    No purchase limit and Koshihikari at this price — that's pretty cheap.
    228AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:39
    Re: #113
    Limit's 2 per person, but you can buy it every day, so.
    128AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:27
    Re: #1

    Wait, was Agriculture Minister Suzuki actually competent?
    146AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:29
    If foreign rice were expensive and bad-tasting anyway, we wouldn't even need tariffs, right?
    So let's just abolish the tariffs then.
    165AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:31
    Re: #146
    Word's already out that long-grain rice is tasty.
    You can cook it easily in a frying pan or microwave — so convenient…
    Short-grain rice is a hassle.
    150AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:30
    Re: #97
    That's only because domestic rice still exists as competition.
    If imports were priced the same as domestic, people would just buy domestic, so importers have no choice but to sell cheap.
    But once everything's imported, there's no reason left to sell cheap.
    Importers would be free to charge whatever they want.
    216AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:37
    Re: #150
    You'd just import cheaply from a different country instead, idiot.
    151AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:30
    So does that mean we'll be able to buy 5kg for under ¥2,000?
    171AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:32
    Re: #151
    No, that's the price the government pays to buy stockpile rice.
    158AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:31
    Re: #116

    Yeah, rice really was half the price back in 2021.

    167AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:31
    Re: #158
    This is scary cheap in its own way, honestly.
    164AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:31
    Re: #119
    Wheat production is even smaller than rice's, you know.
    Can you not even grasp the obvious fact that if everyone switches to eating bread, the price will just go up too?
    203AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:36
    The Dojima Rice Exchange was Ishin's Yoshimura's pet project, after all.


    Background and Key Points

    Fukui’s JA (Japan Agricultural Cooperatives) is not a government body but a nationwide network of farmer cooperatives that has, since the postwar era, effectively controlled rice collection, storage and wholesale distribution — which is why posters instinctively blame JA rather than the government when prices swing. The ¥20,535 figure Chairman Miyata cites is the officially calculated “production cost benchmark” (seisan hi), used as a policy reference point rather than an actual market price. The backdrop is the 2024–2025 “Reiwa rice shock”: a real shortage in summer 2024 sent prices soaring, prompting the agriculture ministry to release emergency stockpile rice; by 2025 a large new harvest plus that released stockpile created the opposite problem — an oversupply pushing provisional prices down, which is what triggered Miyata’s call to buy back stockpile rice and revisit the decades-old production-adjustment (gentan) system that limits planted acreage to keep prices propped up.

    The thread’s real fault line wasn’t stockpiles versus tariffs — it was whether price stability should come from the market or from taxpayer subsidy, with a smaller but vocal faction arguing Japan should abandon rice self-sufficiency altogether and rely on imports.

    What’s easy to miss: Japan already runs steep tariffs (roughly 778%) and a WTO minimum-access import quota on rice, so “just import” isn’t a tariff-free hypothetical — it would require unwinding trade protections that keep domestic paddies economically viable. Also worth noting: several posters (e.g. #151/#171) themselves conflated retail shelf prices with the much lower price the government pays to buy back stockpile rice — a distinction the article’s headline figure depends on but the thread never fully sorted out.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Breaking News+) thread「Fukui JA Chairman: “The government needs to guide prices to ¥20,535 per 60kg” — Review also aims to prevent oversupply and resolve the rice glut」.

  • Apple’s Cloth: New Model Drops to ¥1,580 — 5ch: ‘It’s Just a Cloth’

    Apple has released a new model of its screen-cleaning polishing cloth for ¥1,580 — nearly half the price of the previous model — sparking plenty of discussion online. On 5ch, while some posters welcomed the price cut, many others took the chance to mock the whole idea of paying money for “just a cloth.”

    Apple’s “Cloth” Nearly Half Price — New Model Goes on Sale for ¥1,580, What’s Changed – ITmedia NEWS

    August 26, 2026, 11:44 AM

    Author: Yuya Hayashi

    Source: itmedia.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousAug 26, 2026 11:56
    The faithful, making their offerings (お布施 = a temple donation — i.e., Apple fans paying tribute)
    157AnonymousAug 26, 2026 13:28
    Re: #2
    Kind of reminds me of a fukusa (a silk cloth used to wrap ceremonial gifts)
    3AnonymousAug 26, 2026 11:56
    Watching an android go for a walk on YouTube beats watching Peace-kun at Omiya Park (a local peacock with his own livestream).
    42AnonymousAug 26, 2026 12:13
    This is clearly made for the faithful.
    46AnonymousAug 26, 2026 12:17
    Can't afford the actual device, so I'll settle for the cloth instead 😣
    48AnonymousAug 26, 2026 12:18
    It's just a cloth.
    51AnonymousAug 26, 2026 12:19
    How generous — Apple really does look out for its customers.
    54AnonymousAug 26, 2026 12:22
    I bet a wet wipe would get it cleaner.
    57AnonymousAug 26, 2026 12:23
    Re: #54
    Never would've thought of a wet wipe. What are you, Mii-chan?
    65AnonymousAug 26, 2026 12:25
    Apple's gone full luxury brand these days! Then again, I don't want to buy Android either.
    183AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:25
    Re: #65
    It's not branding, it's turned into a religion, lol
    79AnonymousAug 26, 2026 12:32
    People in Tokyo can't tell 'Macintosh' and 'McDonald's' apart, can they? (both get shortened to 'Makku' there, unlike Osaka's 'Makudo')
    84AnonymousAug 26, 2026 12:33
    Re: #79
    Macintosh also covers both computers and audio gear.
    86AnonymousAug 26, 2026 12:33
    Re: #79
    Macintosh — a variety of apple. McDonald's — Donald's son.
    82AnonymousAug 26, 2026 12:33
    What is this? For wiping the screen?
    89AnonymousAug 26, 2026 12:35
    Re: #82
    For wiping this screen
    ↓
    >The Nano-texture etched into the glass at the nanometer level scatters light and further minimizes reflectivity. Choosing this option makes the display remarkably easier to see even in environments where light is hard to control, like strong sunlight.
    90AnonymousAug 26, 2026 12:36
    No Apple logo on it — must be a knockoff.
    97AnonymousAug 26, 2026 12:40
    Re: #90
    That's because your mind's eye hasn't opened yet. Go buy a MacBook Pro.
    96AnonymousAug 26, 2026 12:40
    Just dampen the sock you're wearing and wipe the display — comes out spotless.
    123AnonymousAug 26, 2026 13:03
    Re: #96
    Sounds like something a lonely old man in a run-down apartment would do.
    142AnonymousAug 26, 2026 13:18
    I bet if you buy this and pray to it a few times a day, you'll get a boyfriend or girlfriend, win the lottery — all kinds of divine blessings, surely.
    147AnonymousAug 26, 2026 13:20
    Re: #142
    Then maybe it could've warded off Taira no Masakado's curse too (a legendary vengeful samurai spirit tied to a Tokyo shrine), and that guy wouldn't have fallen from some weird place.
    160AnonymousAug 26, 2026 13:33
    A cloth's a lot more reasonable than one of those overpriced 'spiritual' vases (a classic cult scam item in Japan).
    166AnonymousAug 26, 2026 13:43
    Re: #160
    A vase might actually gain value in a thousand years, but a cloth won't even last that long.
    168AnonymousAug 26, 2026 13:44
    Like, 'if I'm gonna buy an Elecom or Buffalo one, I might as well get this instead.'
    171AnonymousAug 26, 2026 13:49
    Re: #168
    Sounds like something 'Applo' (mocking nickname for Apple) would totally sell.
    172AnonymousAug 26, 2026 13:49
    Back in the day they even sold an iPhone with a scrap of Jobs's jeans glued on, so something like this — the faithful will buy it by the thousand, minimum.
    175AnonymousAug 26, 2026 13:52
    Re: #172
    Stuff tied to Jobs has this rare-item feel somehow — like the limited-edition Mac signed by Steve Wozniak, or the NeXT computers that famously didn't sell at all.

    Background and Key Points

    Apple’s polishing cloth first appeared in 2021 as a companion product to the Pro Display XDR’s nano-texture glass option, an etched-glass finish designed to scatter light and cut reflections in bright environments. Because that etching is delicate, Apple sells a matching microfiber cloth alongside it; the previous model ran around ¥3,000, and the new one — cut to ¥1,580 — is tied to nano-texture displays on newer Macs and iPads rather than being a generic accessory. For readers unfamiliar with Japan, several posts lean on local references: お布施 (osefuse) means a donation offered to a Buddhist temple, invoked here to cast Apple purchases as religious tribute; a fukusa is the formal cloth used to wrap ceremonial gifts; and the jab about Tokyo confusing “Makku” for both Mac and McDonald’s plays on a real Kanto/Kansai dialect split, since Osaka shortens McDonald’s to “Makudo” instead.

    The thread doesn’t really argue over whether ¥1,580 is objectively expensive — it splits between posters who see the price cut as a reasonable correction and posters who think paying anything for “just a cloth” is inherently absurd, with the joke escalating into comparing Apple fandom to a cult (the vase and Masakado-curse references draw on Japan’s history of spiritual-goods scams and urban legends).

    What the thread leaves out is the actual functional reason the cloth exists: nano-texture glass can be permanently scratched or dulled by ordinary cloths, wipes, or clothing, so Apple’s cloth is formulated to be safe for that specific coating — a detail that reframes some of the “just use a wet wipe” jokes as riskier advice than posters realize.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Breaking News+) thread “Apple’s “Cloth” Nearly Half Price — New Model Goes on Sale for ¥1,580, What’s Changed.”

  • Tokyo’s AC Usage Tops the World: 14 Hours 12 Minutes a Day Across 12 Major Cities

    A survey of 12 cities worldwide conducted by air conditioner manufacturer Daikin Industries found that Tokyo’s average daily air conditioner usage time was 14 hours and 12 minutes — the longest of any city surveyed. With the finding that 30% of households run their AC “almost all day,” the thread lit up with personal anecdotes that leaving the AC on all the time is actually cheaper, debates over home insulation performance, and comparisons with France’s notably low AC adoption rate.

    8/26 (Wed) 13:21 JST

    Yomiuri Shimbun Online

    According to a survey on air conditioner usage across 12 cities worldwide conducted by major air conditioning manufacturer Daikin Industries, the average daily at-home usage time during the hottest period was longest in Tokyo, at 14 hours and 12 minutes.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    6AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:17
    Tokyo's bad for the environment, man.
    It's not like you're running factories — show some restraint.
    16AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:19
    Re: #6
    Lots of buildings and "tamamans" around. Buildings and tamamans throw off huge amounts of heat from their outdoor AC units.
    22AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:21
    Re: #16
    That's not "tamaman," it's "tawaman" (tower mansion / high-rise condo), lol
    7AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:17
    Tokyo's been cool enough these past few years that you barely even need AC, though?
    182AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:44
    Re: #7
    Okutama folks, sit down and shut up. (Okutama is Tokyo's rural, mountainous — and much cooler — western edge)
    237AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:50
    Re: #7
    Well, it's true that when people from western Japan come to Tokyo, they think 'huh, maybe I could actually get by without AC here?'
    The humidity and sunlight are just that different.
    305AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:56
    Re: #7
    That's just this year though…
    10AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:18
    Wasn't leaving it on 24/7 supposed to be the most cost-effective option?
    15AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:19
    Re: #10
    Not turning it on at all for 24 hours is the most cost-effective, lol!
    49AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:26
    Re: #10
    It's just that if you're only turning it off for 30 minutes, you're better off leaving it running.
    12AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:18
    France's household AC installation rate is only around 20%
    An abnormally low number
    32AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:24
    Re: #12
    Guess that's what you'd expect from an environmental leader, huh
    38AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:24
    Re: #12
    If eco-terrorists spot your outdoor unit, they'll smash it
    54AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:27
    Modern AC auto mode is pretty smart, honestly.
    If you set it to 28°C, once it hits 28°C it basically goes silent
    and barely uses any power — isn't that how it works?
    Once the room hits 28°C, it'll just idle there for 10 or even 15 hours.

    Back in the Showa era (roughly 1926–1989), it'd just blast cold air forever trying to reach 28°C,
    overcooling the room and wasting tons of electricity.
    If a Showa-era AC saw today's auto mode doing nothing, it'd say "If you're not gonna do anything, get out!"
    65AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:28
    Re: #54
    I guess that's because inverter ACs are just standard now?
    Though the era when that was a selling point was ages ago
    82AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:30
    Re: #54
    Exactly, that's why I just leave mine running all the time now
    93AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:31
    Re: #54
    I've got two units — one stops exactly at the set temp and runs quietly, but the other one cools down to 25°C even when I set the max of 30°C, and it's driving me nuts
    58AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:27
    But AC doesn't work very well in traditional Japanese-style houses
    because they're not very airtight
    70AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:29
    Re: #58
    That was true for a lot of houses up through the Showa era, but new builds have high insulation now, so they actually cool efficiently
    189AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:44
    Re: #58
    It's not about airtightness

    Insulation performance is what matters
    Airtightness is basically garbage-tier by comparison
    80AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:30
    Re: #12
    Because it's not that hot there
    100AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:32
    Re: #80
    Yeah right, that's a lie—

    134AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:37
    Re: #100
    June…? That's freak weather… it's not normally that hot
    206AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:46
    Re: #100
    Go check today's temperature
    122AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:35
    Electricity isn't cheap anywhere in the world, so Tokyo must be rolling in money
    140AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:38
    Re: #122
    I heard new detached houses in Tokyo are now required to install solar power systems
    Hearing that, I actually got solar installed myself this past February, lol
    144AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:39
    Re: #122
    Sure, electricity's expensive, but if you look at your August bill, about 10% is knocked off thanks to government subsidies
    126AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:36
    If people don't state where they live and their preferred set temperature,
    this just turns into a classic 5ch thread where everyone argues past each other
    based on their own personal standards
    129AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:36
    Re: #126
    But that's the whole charm of 5ch, isn't it
    300AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:56
    Re: #126
    Same story on any social media, honestly
    150AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:40
    So the waste heat from all these ACs just fuels more warming,
    and now we're in a full-blown feedback loop
    It's over for planet Earth
    156AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:41
    Re: #150
    I kind of want them to build even more data centers in the Kanto region and make it even more hellish (lol)
    160AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:41
    Re: #150
    Just splash water on your outdoor unit

    #keep it rain-level so it doesn't break
    170AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:42
    Re: #150
    Honestly, I think this is exactly it
    Also, the asphalt
    209AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:47
    Wait, 'running all day' — does that mean it's on even while you're out of the house?
    216AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:48
    Re: #209
    Apparently there are cases where leaving it running costs less than switching it on and off constantly. The AC uses the most power right when you first turn it on in the heat

    Background and Key Points

    Daikin’s survey covers only the hottest stretch of summer, but the number matters because Japan runs on Tokyo Electric Power’s summer peak-demand warnings and a decade-old “Setsuden” (electricity-saving) culture born from the 2011 Fukushima disaster, when households were urged to set thermostats at 28°C rather than switch AC off entirely. That 28°C figure, which several posters treat as an engineering threshold, is actually a government-recommended “Cool Biz” target, not a technical optimum. Japan’s summer humidity, distinct from the dry heat of much of Europe, is also why direct comparisons to France’s roughly 20% AC penetration rate are misleading on both sides of the thread: it’s not simply an “eco-conscious France vs. wasteful Japan” story, since France’s oceanic/continental climate and historically low summer humidity made AC far less necessary there until recent heatwave summers changed that calculus.

    The thread’s real fault line isn’t environmental guilt versus comfort — it’s a genuinely unresolved consumer question: whether leaving an inverter AC running continuously at a set temperature costs less than cycling it on and off, because compressors draw the most power at startup. Posters split between those citing inverter technology’s ability to idle near-silently once target temperature is reached, and those insisting any runtime beyond active cooling is waste.

    What the thread never quite spells out is the insulation angle raised only briefly at the end: Japan’s building stock is unusually heterogeneous, with older homes (pre-1980s “Showa” construction) built with minimal insulation, while airtightness and thermal insulation are two distinct, often-conflated metrics only now being standardized under Japan’s newer energy-efficiency building codes — a policy shift far larger than anything the survey itself addresses.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “[Survey] Tokyo’s AC Usage Longest Among 12 World Cities at 14 Hours 12 Minutes… 30% Run It Almost All Day”.

  • Shizuoka’s Nagaizumi Town Fires 57-Year-Old Employee Who Took Home 20,000 Discarded Public Documents Without Permission — 5ch: ‘So Cheap…’

    A 57-year-old female employee at the Nagaizumi Town office in Shizuoka Prefecture was dismissed after taking home roughly 20,000 public documents slated for disposal without authorization. It also came to light that she used the backs of the pages as scratch paper to print her hobby mystery novels on the town’s copy machine, sparking discussion on 5ch with comments like “Printing on the town’s copier? Wouldn’t just buying the book be cheaper?” and “So cheap…,” along with speculation about how it was discovered and what her motive was.

    “I didn’t want to spend my own money” — Employee dismissed for taking home roughly 20,000 discarded public documents without permission, used them as scratch paper to print hobby mystery novels = Nagaizumi Town, Shizuoka

    Published 8/25 (Tue) 19:12

    Shizuoka Broadcasting System (SBS)

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:56
    So what was the whole Middle East crisis even about, in the end?

    41 Anonymous Donburako 2026/03/20 (Fri) 05:35:08.12 ID:Az+IKYP60
    Re: #2
    If 70% of the raw material for window sashes disappears,
    then sash makers' work drops 70% too, right?

    43 Anonymous Donburako 2026/03/20 (Fri) 05:42:48.27 ID:Az+IKYP60
    Re: #42
    If materials drop 70%, production drops 70% too, so the work drops 70%,
    and you cut staff by 70% as well.

    51 Anonymous Donburako 2026/03/20 (Fri) 05:55:14.23 ID:zlyhQQA/0
    Re: #46
    Because we've never been affected by it before.

    So, mind if I save this?
    I'm hoping you're not lying to me.

    A 70% drop means if you had 100 orders a month, that falls to just 30-something.
    That's easy enough to verify later, so I'm saving this properly — that okay with you?

    52 Anonymous Donburako 2026/03/20 (Fri) 05:58:58.36 ID:Az+IKYP60
    Re: #51
    Sure, go ahead.
    42AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:08
    Oh wait, she printed it on the office copier?
    So cheap…
    7AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:58
    I want to ask someone who really knows this stuff — using the "yani-neko" (nicotine-stained cat) meme as an analogy, would the sash shop be the landlord??
    46AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:09
    Re: #7
    Since it's worried about work stuff, isn't that more of a "yaku-neko" (drug cat) thing?
    10AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:58
    Printing library books on scrap paper — how broke do you have to be?
    109AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:28
    Re: #10
    Not broke, just stingy.
    122AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:33
    Re: #10
    It's the people who actually have money who turn into misers.
    23AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:02
    Crimes involving public documents by civil servants are supposed to carry serious penalties — does she really get off with just dismissal? In the US, a case like this would supposedly get you sent to Guantanamo Bay (Cuba) as punishment.
    32AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:04
    Re: #23
    What about in Azerbaijan? Or the Republic of the Congo?
    38AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:06
    Printing mystery novels on the town's copier?? Wouldn't buying the book be cheaper??
    63AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:15
    Re: #38
    It says "town's," not "city's," so it's presumably the copier at Nagaizumi town hall. Black-and-white is probably under 1 yen a page, but I wonder what it all added up to.
    45AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:09
    Even at 10 yen a copy, that's 200,000 yen. Government office copiers are leased, so they're paying even more than that. If General Affairs had just checked the counter, they'd have caught it. Well, copyright law violation — busted.
    102AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:26
    Re: #45
    It's a per-page contract — black-and-white is probably under 2 yen a page.

    And honestly, if she didn't care about owning the actual book and a copy was fine, she could've just taken photos and read them on a tablet.
    50AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:12
    Seems like copying would actually cost more. It takes effort too. Heck, at that point just download it online…
    75AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:18
    Re: #50
    It says "the town's copier." So she was siphoning off the town's budget. Dismissal seems fair.
    51AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:12
    Unbelievably cheap. She's probably paid decently too.
    53AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:13
    And here she was contributing to ISO 14001 (environmental standards — reusing waste paper and all).
    66AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:16
    Re: #53
    It literally says "without permission," lol. At least ask first, lol. Not that it would've worked anyway, lolol.
    68AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:17
    Factor in the copier's printing costs and wouldn't it come out about the same as just buying the paperback?
    80AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:19
    Re: #68
    The point is she was using tax money to copy stuff for her personal hobby.

    Taking home discarded public documents without permission is bad enough, but this is just as bad.
    77AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:18
    Same as the idiot who drives 10km to a different supermarket to save 10 yen on eggs.
    84AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:21
    Re: #77
    That's a terrible analogy, even as analogies go.
    81AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:20
    Printing on the town's copier — you'd think just buying it would normally be cheaper.
    89AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:22
    Re: #81
    This reporter refers to the town office as "the town," so "the town's copier" just means the office copier — free to use. But using a ton of paper would look suspicious, so apparently that's why she used the backs of the discarded documents instead.
    90AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:23
    Re: #81
    It's about the copier managed by Nagashima town [sic], lol. You'd notice if the paper ran low, but you wouldn't notice the ink, right? lol
    119AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:32
    A photocopy wouldn't satisfy the urge to actually own the book. What's the point of going to all that effort just to copy it?
    125AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:35
    Re: #119
    But it cost her literally zero yen, lol. Effort aside, lolol.
    121AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:33
    So there really are people out there who print out illegal downloads? That's a pretty unusual kind of person.
    134AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:37
    Re: #121
    It's a copy of a book she borrowed from the library. And since it's on scrap paper, it must be brutal to read.
    123AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:33
    Oh, so she wasn't writing novels as a hobby — she was just photocopying novels she liked?
    135AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:37
    Re: #123
    You actually need to file a request just to make a copy. Permission's only granted for research purposes, though — without authorization it's copyright infringement (violation of the reproduction right).
    127AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:35
    There's a real chance the copying was just cover for smuggling the public documents home — the punishment seems fair.
    146AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:41
    Re: #127
    I bet the seniors and coworkers who already retired and got away clean were doing the exact same thing.
    174AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:50
    If they'd just digitized everything, none of this would've happened…
    195AnonymousAug 26, 2026 09:00
    Re: #174
    Not everyone here is necessarily a Nagaizumi resident — nearby Gotemba and Numazu cities do have digital systems.
    208AnonymousAug 26, 2026 09:05
    Re: #174
    If the logic that "accidents caused by things like cars or smartphones aren't the thing's fault, it's the fault of the person using it" holds up, then this isn't really about digitization either — it comes down to "the person who did this is the one at fault." Though saying that to someone whose values have been thoroughly brainwashed by digital-absolutism (more a religion than a philosophy) — efficiency, convenience, savings, and all that — would probably go in one ear and out the other.
    197AnonymousAug 26, 2026 09:01
    I wonder how this even got found out?
    203AnonymousAug 26, 2026 09:03
    Re: #197
    She got taken down by the next office queen bee who wanted to pull the same trick herself. Give it a few years and it'll probably happen again.
    209AnonymousAug 26, 2026 09:06
    Re: #197
    Nothing more annoying than someone hogging the copier.

    Background and Key Points

    Japanese municipal offices are required to dispose of internal paperwork through controlled channels — shredding contracts or supervised destruction — precisely because “discarded” documents at a town hall routinely contain residents’ personal information: family register entries, tax records, welfare applications, and the like. Nagaizumi is a small town office in Shizuoka Prefecture, the kind of local government body (chihō kōkyō dantai) whose employees are civil servants bound by the Local Public Service Act, under which unauthorized removal of records and misuse of office equipment for private purposes are disciplinary offenses that can trigger immediate dismissal (chōkai kaishoku), independent of any criminal charge. That distinction matters here: nothing in the reporting suggests she was prosecuted for theft or copyright infringement — she was fired administratively.

    The thread’s actual disagreement wasn’t about whether dismissal was warranted; almost no one defended her. It split on how to read the “cheapness” — some treated it as a quirky, almost sympathetic case of thriftiness (comparing her to someone driving across town to save on eggs), while others insisted the money-saving angle was a distraction from the real violation, using town resources and mishandled records, and pushed back on framing this as mere frugality.

    What the posts gloss over is the copyright layer, raised only briefly (#135): under Japan’s Copyright Act, libraries may reproduce portions of a book only for a patron’s own research use, not full copies for personal keeping, so what she was printing on scrap document backs may itself have been an independent infringement — a second violation the “cheap old lady” framing obscures entirely.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Breaking News+) thread “[Shizuoka] “I didn’t want to spend my own money” — 57-year-old female employee dismissed for taking home roughly 20,000 discarded public documents without permission, printed mystery novels on scrap paper — Nagaizumi Town.”

  • Girls’ School Bathrooms Have Lines Too — Boys’ Urinals Outnumber Them 1.4-to-1, 5ch Says ‘See, the Boys’ Room Is Empty’

    A survey of school bathrooms across 74 cities and wards nationwide by the Asahi Shimbun found that boys’ restrooms have 1.4 times as many urinals as girls’ restrooms have stalls. The investigation was sparked by a female student’s complaint that “recess ends up being nothing but standing in the bathroom line.” On 5ch, the observation that “the boys’ room is empty” set off a wide-ranging thread covering the causes of the congestion, phone use eating up stall time, and preferences for squat versus Western-style toilets.

    Published 8/26 (Wed) 7:02 AM

    withnews by Asahi Shimbun

    Long lines at women’s restrooms have become a social issue, driven by the gender gap in the number of toilets available. The Asahi Shimbun first covered the issue in an article in January 2025. Since then, we’ve heard from many quarters requests to “look into school restrooms too,” so between May and July 2026 we surveyed a total of 74 municipalities — government-designated cities, prefectural capitals, and Tokyo’s 23 wards. 72 of them responded, and our analysis of a combined 624,011 toilets found that boys’ restrooms have 1.4 times as many units as girls’ restrooms. (Asahi Shimbun reporter Tomoko Yamashita)

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:39
    "See, the boys' bathroom is empty!"
    46AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:52
    Just confiscate their phones already
    6AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:41
    So let's cut the number of stalls in the women's room
    and line up urinals to match the men's room.

    If you're complaining the numbers are unequal, you'd have to accept this as a solution too, right?
    17AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:44
    Quit whining, you softies.
    If a guy uses a stall, he gets nicknamed "Poop Man," so we held it in desperately until we got home.
    97AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:04
    Re: #17
    They should make all men's toilets stalls too.
    That would cut the number down to match the women's side,
    and everyone would be happy, problem solved.
    27AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:48
    Put a timer on the outside of every stall door, for men and women both, so you can see how many minutes someone's been in there.
    79AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:58
    Re: #27
    Wasn't there an Abe Kobo short story with a factory foreman nicknamed "Stopwatch"?
    30AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:49
    But seriously, why is the female urethra built so inconveniently?
    Not just that urinals are hard to use — it's also more prone to infections and leakage. It's hard to see the upside of that design.
    87AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:01
    Re: #30
    There's no real reason.
    Every part of the human body was just slapped together haphazardly.
    34AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:49
    I've never actually seen both the boys' and girls' school bathrooms full at the same time.
    213AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:32
    Re: #34
    Same here.
    There's probably a faction that wants it to look that way.
    42AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:51
    The reason there are more men's urinals is that even with the same-sized space, urinals are compact, right?
    So the fix for the women's room is to rip out the partitions and go "nihao-style" (open squat toilets in a row, like some Chinese public restrooms) to fit more in — problem solved lol
    43AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:51
    As a guy this is hard to really get.
    Plus girls supposedly go to the bathroom in pairs holding hands, which eats up even more time.
    Guys don't do the buddy-bathroom-trip thing.
    47AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:52
    Re: #43
    I heard from a girl that the Showa-era version of that (the buddy system) was actually meant to guard against perverts.
    51AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:52
    Isn't this just the media's usual trick of only reporting what fits their narrative?
    62AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:55
    It's mostly phones or makeup eating up the time.
    75AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:57
    Re: #62
    Elementary schoolers don't wear makeup, and they can't bring phones to school either, you know.
    93AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:03
    Re: #75
    They stand there messing with their wet hands in their hair while staring in the mirror, forever.
    66AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:56
    Why did bathrooms suddenly start running short once the Reiwa era began?
    74AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:57
    Re: #66
    And this despite the falling birth rate.
    Probably because, unlike the old days, people spend a lot longer in the stall looking at their phones.
    72AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:57
    They're on their phones in there, obviously.
    I never saw lines like this 20 years ago.
    82AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:59
    Re: #72
    Try 30 years ago — women's bathrooms already had lines back then.
    There was even a stir about middle-aged women sneaking into the men's room to use a stall because the women's side was too crowded,
    and that's old news by now.
    81AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:59
    Guys carry a big risk too — if you go into a stall you get teased "poop, poop," so you can't poop at school.
    It stops bothering you around college age, but what even is that about?
    90AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:02
    Re: #81
    Back in middle school I could never go before leaving home, so I always ended up doing it at school, and it became a running joke: "Pooping again? lol"
    By that point I'd just stopped caring.
    114AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:07
    They're just taking way too long in there.
    Female VTubers pee faster than I do, even.
    117AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:09
    Re: #114
    Lol
    Yeah, they're back in a flash.
    And if it does take a while and you think "oh, must be a poop," turns out they went and made instant noodles instead.
    156AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:19
    Re: #114
    Bruh, it's a woman lolololol
    126AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:12
    Just make a separate entrance for the squat-style toilets in the women's room lol
    Standing in line is just being soft
    183AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:26
    Re: #126
    Squat toilets have a bad reputation, though.
    Plenty of students cross a school off their list just because it has squat toilets.
    Correspondingly, schools that renovate to Western-style toilets see higher application rates.
    189AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:27
    Re: #183
    It's unpopular, so people probably just finish quickly and get out.
    191AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:27
    Re: #183
    Though squat toilets are actually more hygienic since you don't touch anything with your butt.
    147AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:17
    Women really do take forever.
    What are they even doing in there?
    155AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:19
    Re: #147
    With squat toilets you can't sit down, so it wouldn't take long.
    Isn't it slow because they're sitting there checking their phones?
    180AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:25
    Re: #147
    Go ask your girlfriend or wife.

    Background and Key Points

    The survey sits on top of a broader push in Japan to fix what’s been dubbed the “women’s toilet line” problem — the Asahi Shimbun’s January 2025 piece first framed unequal restroom wait times as a gender-equity issue in public facilities, and this follow-up applies the same lens to schools. The 74 municipalities surveyed are Japan’s designated cities (seirei shitei toshi, large cities with prefecture-level administrative powers), prefectural capitals, and Tokyo’s 23 special wards — together a sample skewed toward Japan’s biggest urban school districts, not rural areas. Of the 72 that responded, tallying 624,011 fixtures nationwide, boys’ facilities came out 1.4 times larger in unit count.

    The thread’s actual fault line isn’t over whether girls wait longer — nobody disputes that — but over cause: is the gap structural (urinals need far less floor space and plumbing per unit than an enclosed stall, so any given square footage naturally yields more male fixtures) or behavioral (phone use, grooming, or the “buddy system” of pairing up for restroom trips, historically a safety habit against harassment rather than idle chatting)?

    What the thread misses is that raw fixture counts don’t map cleanly onto capacity, since a stall and a urinal occupy very different amounts of space — so equalizing “unit numbers” between the sexes, as some posters jokingly propose, wouldn’t equalize actual floor area or renovation cost. Also unaddressed: Japan’s school toilets still run a meaningful share of washiki (squat-style) units, a leftover from pre-1990s construction standards that many districts are only now budgeting to replace with yoshiki (Western-style) fixtures.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Breaking News Plus) thread “【🚻】Girls’ School Bathrooms Have Lines Too — “Recess Ends Up Being Nothing But Standing in Line” — Boys’ Urinals Outnumber Them 1.4-to-1… How the Survey Started“.

  • Hiroshima to Become Japan’s ‘Secondary Capital’? Governor Yokota Announces City-Prefecture Talks Have Begun

    Hiroshima Prefecture Governor Mika Yokota has revealed that working-level discussions have begun with Hiroshima City and other relevant local governments over a “secondary capital” concept — a plan to take over capital functions from Tokyo in the event of a major disaster. On 5ch, opinions clashed over whether correcting Tokyo’s over-concentration is even desirable, comparisons with other candidate cities like Osaka, Okayama, Sendai, and Niigata, and Hiroshima’s own weak points, such as poor airport access and a shortage of land.

    Regarding the “secondary capital,” which would serve as a backup for capital functions in the event of a major disaster, Governor Yokota revealed that working-level discussions have begun with Hiroshima City and others.

    A secondary capital would take over Tokyo’s functions if maintaining them in Tokyo becomes difficult due to a major disaster or similar event. In July, Governor Yokota indicated an intention to seek designation in cooperation with Hiroshima City and other parties. At a press conference on the 25th, Governor Yokota revealed that working-level discussions had begun with Hiroshima City and other relevant local governments, and stated her intention to move forward toward designation while gathering information from the national government and other sources.

    Hiroshima Prefecture Governor Mika Yokota

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    8AnonymousAug 25, 2026 22:40
    This region gets hit by way too many disasters already, so where exactly are they gonna build a secondary capital?
    More importantly, do something about that mystery-spec MOBIRY DAYS system lol
    98AnonymousAug 26, 2026 00:36
    Re: #8
    The MOBIRY DAYS terminals started supporting nationwide transit IC cards like ICOCA last month.
    You can now get off through any door.
    Though the response time is still slow.
    14AnonymousAug 25, 2026 22:43
    Ishin (Japan Innovation Party) submitted the bill.
    The selection judges are also Ishin.
    Do you seriously think anywhere other than Osaka is going to get picked in this situation?
    36AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:18
    Re: #14
    >Do you seriously think anywhere other than Osaka is going to get picked in this situation?

    Start with Osaka.
    Get the secondary capital up and running in Osaka, get it on track,
    then expand it to Fukuoka, Sapporo, Nagoya, Hiroshima, Sendai, Matsuyama, Kanazawa, and Niigata.

    In the end this becomes a de facto regional-bloc system (doshusei).
    No need to merge prefectures either.
    Just organize regions around secondary-capital cities as hubs.
    That's a much less forced approach.

    Since you're not cramming everything into fixed regional blocks,
    areas can belong to multiple regional blocs,
    and they don't have to be bound by geographic distance.
    22AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:06
    I thought Hiroshima said it wasn't going to run for this though
    39AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:23
    Re: #22
    >I thought Hiroshima said it wasn't going to run for this though

    When it was 'Osaka only' as the secondary capital, people opposed it out of regional self-interest.
    Now that it's 'anywhere goes' for the secondary capital, people support it out of regional self-interest.

    The Tokyo bureaucratic establishment — which hates Ishin, hates Osaka, hates western Japan —
    screamed 'It's Osaka or nothing!' and the moment that turned into 'anywhere can be the secondary capital,'
    Pandora's box flew open lol
    45AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:37
    Re: #22
    Guess we've entered an era of chaos at this point
    24AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:07
    Since not having an airport near Hiroshima City is a weakness, why not build an airfield on Etajima or Ninoshima Island and shuttle people to Ujina by hovercraft?
    Also, the lack of land is a problem, so just level the mountains to the east and west — all they ever produce is landslides anyway — and use the rubble to reclaim land from the sea.
    And there are way too many rivers for no good reason, so bury all of them as giant culverts except the Ota River floodway.
    40AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:24
    Re: #24
    You don't need to go through all that hassle — there are plenty of candidate cities that already have flat land.
    52AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:43
    Re: #24
    >Since not having an airport near Hiroshima City is a weakness

    Just use Iwakuni Airport.
    It's on the coast, so it can be expanded as much as needed going forward.

    It's only about 43km from Hiroshima —
    roughly the same distance as the access route to Hong Kong International Airport,
    so all you'd need is to set up high-speed rail access.

    From Hiroshima Station to Shin-Iwakuni Station is just one stop, a mere 14 minutes.
    Just extend a branch line to the airport and it becomes an airport with unbeatable access.

    Making Hiroshima the secondary capital would bring infrastructure budget too,
    and the secondary capital's key airport development could cross the prefectural border.
    Since it's an ideal wide-area collaboration project, the budget would pass easily too.
    29AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:10
    Hardly any countries even have a secondary capital.
    Bottom line: a secondary capital is unnecessary.
    63AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:53
    Re: #29
    >Hardly any countries even have a secondary capital.
    >Bottom line: a secondary capital is unnecessary.

    That's true for normal countries that don't have everything piled into one city the way Tokyo does.
    Politics in Washington DC, economy in NYC, culture in LA.
    Politics in Berlin, economy in Frankfurt, culture in Hamburg.
    Politics in Canberra, economy in Melbourne, culture in Sydney.

    Even in the UK, which people call over-centralized,
    they set up a satellite office of the PM's residence, moving it from London to Manchester.
    In France too, more people are moving away from Paris.

    Even in London and Paris, only about 15% of the population is concentrated there.
    By contrast, Tokyo/the greater metro area's concentration rate is 33%.

    Tokyo's over-concentration is abnormal, distorted, and just plain messed up on every level.
    31AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:11
    Hiroshima kind of gives off an isolated vibe, you know?
    Can't quite put my finger on why.
    Anyway, setting that aside, the secondary capital should be somewhere near Tokyo.
    90AnonymousAug 26, 2026 00:23
    Re: #31
    Somewhere around Ichikawa would be good, no?
    37AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:22
    Well, there's nothing wrong with wanting to become one — after all, Osaka's only getting attention because it's loud about it too.
    71AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:57
    Re: #37
    >Well, there's nothing wrong with wanting to become one
    >Osaka's only getting attention because it's loud about it too

    So confident, even as a siege around Tokyo is steadily forming lol
    The powerful regions break free of Tokyo's control and become self-sufficient.
    Tokyo's job ends up being to look after whatever depopulated areas are left.
    65AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:54
    Better than Osaka I think, but splitting the difference, Okayama would be even better.
    72AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:58
    Re: #65
    That's the 'Oka-kyo' (a play on Okayama + "capital") you hear about in those conspiracy theories of unknown origin.
    75AnonymousAug 26, 2026 00:00
    116AnonymousAug 26, 2026 01:28
    Re: #75
    I wonder if Tottori Prefecture was evenly split between Hiroshima and Tokyo.
    82AnonymousAug 26, 2026 00:14
    Hiroshima's a no.
    The real candidates would be the Kansai region, the Chukyo (Nagoya) region, Sendai, and Niigata, wouldn't they?
    87AnonymousAug 26, 2026 00:18
    Re: #82
    Kansai region? There's no way anywhere in Kansai other than Osaka would put its hand up — not with (Osaka Governor) Yoshimura watching like a hawk.
    93AnonymousAug 26, 2026 00:25
    Re: #82
    There's no way western Japan would accept Sendai or Niigata as the secondary capital — it'd start a civil war.
    83AnonymousAug 26, 2026 00:15
    I was surprised the Hiroden streetcars depart from the 2nd floor at Hiroshima Station.
    Thought I was looking at the elevated monorail at Tachikawa Station or something.
    84AnonymousAug 26, 2026 00:17
    Re: #83
    I'm actually from Hiroshima, but I haven't seen that yet.
    I do know Hiroshima Station has changed a lot though.
    85AnonymousAug 26, 2026 00:17
    Your place doesn't even have flat land, and your airport's a weird setup too.
    88AnonymousAug 26, 2026 00:19
    Re: #85
    Still, all the G7 leaders gathered there though.
    115AnonymousAug 26, 2026 01:27
    No worries about tsunamis.
    Not much earthquake activity either.
    117AnonymousAug 26, 2026 01:32
    Re: #115
    There's still the risk of landslides and mudslides from the mountains collapsing though.
    120AnonymousAug 26, 2026 01:36
    What kind of capability does Hiroshima even have, when it takes 50 years just to extend a bypass road?
    125AnonymousAug 26, 2026 01:43
    Re: #120
    The urban expressway got built in no time though lol
    121AnonymousAug 26, 2026 01:38
    I think Hiroshima City is fine.
    Better than Okayama City, which looks cramped.
    151AnonymousAug 26, 2026 03:34
    Re: #121
    Reality is:
    Okayama City has land to spare.
    Hiroshima City is short on land.

    Background and Key Points

    Japan’s “secondary capital” (副首都) push is not a vague hedge against disasters — it is a concrete legislative concept advanced by Nippon Ishin no Kai, which has spent several years pushing a bill through the Diet to designate a backup seat of government, largely as a vehicle for its home turf, Osaka. That context matters because Tokyo’s dominance is statistically extreme: roughly a third of Japan’s population and an outsized share of government, corporate headquarters, and finance sit in the Greater Tokyo area, compared with about 15% concentrated in London or Paris. Hiroshima’s bid is notable because the prefecture has no obvious Ishin backing and instead leans on its 2023 G7 summit hosting and its role as the historic Chūgoku-region hub to argue it belongs in the conversation.

    The thread’s real fault line wasn’t Hiroshima versus Tokyo, but Hiroshima versus every other aspirant: posters argued Osaka is the presumptive winner simply because Ishin wrote the bill and controls the selection process, while others floated Okayama, Sendai, and Niigata as more practical, flatter, more centrally located alternatives. Hiroshima’s built-in liabilities — its cramped, mountain-hemmed downtown and an airport roughly 50 minutes from the city center — came up repeatedly as reasons it lags rivals with better infrastructure.

    What the thread never addresses is that Iwakuni, floated as a fix for the airport problem, is a joint US Marine Corps/JASDF base, not a freely expandable civilian facility — any conversion to secondary-capital gateway status would require binational base-use negotiations, not just a rail spur.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Breaking News Plus) thread “‘Hiroshima Prefecture Is Already One of the Hubs Supporting Japan’ — Hiroshima Moves Toward Becoming a Secondary Capital, Prefecture and City Reveal They’ve Begun Talks — Hiroshima Governor Yokota”.